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Eileen
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THIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE HAS BECOME A THORN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S SIDE. Awesome information at the link:

I think the PAC GUY or SHR should take this. Okay?


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Saturday, November 01, 2008


State of Hawai'i backs Andy Martin in Obama birth certificate battle

Andy Martin lobs a grenade into the final weekend of the presidential campaign; the relentless Chicago corruption fighter exposes Barack Obama and mainstream media as liars.

State of Hawai'i backs Andy Martin in Obama birth certificate battle
CNN, Factcheck.org and Obama campaign exposed as liars

"Internet Powerhouse" Andy Martin drops a grenade in the final weekend of the presidential campaign

ANDY MARTIN
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By the way, this information is over at RENSE and, no doubt, the reason the website was down this morning.

It is a little bit different than what PAC GUY has on GLP's page 4. I still want him or SHR to take this.

The following came from the subject post link. Andy Martin is talking in this link. Evidently Andy had some inside help within the Hawaiian government. There is so much to read at the link and I'm not even halfway through. I was so excited that I just had to put the information over here.

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(HONOLULU)(November 1, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin has ignited a firestorm in Hawai'i over Barack Obama's bogus "original" birth certificate. Martin won a stunning victory Friday afternoon (October 31st) when the State of Hawai'i backed his assertion that there was an original, "typewritten, 1961" birth certificate, called a "Certificate of Live Birth" or "COLB" in Hawai'i, that no one has previously seen. Hawai'i officials retrieved and examined the document after Martin filed a lawsuit seeking access to the historic 1961 original.

Obama has falsely claimed to have placed the "original" on the Internet. Factcheck.org has falsely claimed to have seen this document and posted it on the Internet; that is not true. CNN has falsely ridiculed Martin.

Hawai'i officials have now refuted Obama's false assertion.

Martin's victory in Honolulu will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign. Internet chatter is expected to explode as the issue moves to the front page over Saturday and Sunday. Swing voters may be swayed by the exposure that Obama has brazenly been lying to the American people. "We just lobbed a grenade into the final weekend of the presidential campaign," says Andy.

"I am ecstatic. I called Obama a liar. I called Factcheck.org 'ObamaLies.org.' I said CNN was sloppy and lazy and wrong. And I was right. The State of Hawai'i has now backed me up. Whew. I knew I was right, but I feel a lot more comfortable knowing that I have started to get the machinery moving in state government. The original document is now obviously protected and safe from any tampering by Obama.

"My lawsuit started a firestorm in Hawai'i. The circuit judge has set a hearing for November 18th (a report in the Honolulu Advertiser for November 1st for an earlier hearing date of November 7th is inaccurate; that date was cancelled).

"CNN also has egg on its face, because, once again, Hawai'i backs my contention that the original document has never surfaced in public. CNN tried to demean me by contradicting my accurate claim.

"Now Obama, Factcheck.org and CNN have been exposed as liars. I said there was a 'secret,' original, typewritten birth certificate that had never been disclosed, and that document was the original COLB, not the phony 'original' that CNN placed before its viewers.

"Why would Hawai'i officials review the vault document at the Eleventh Hour if my lawsuit wasn't causing a furor in Hawai'i state government? Why? The Friday before the election?

"Mine is the only logical, rational, properly prepared lawsuit that has been filed to open Obama's secret records. I sued in the proper state in the proper court against the proper officials for the proper remedy. And they are responding properly. The judge has properly, although not as quickly as I would have preferred, set a hearing to consider my claims. I have not filed outrageous or exaggerated pleadings.

"I merely sought access to a document based on its scholarly and news value and because I had been tipped by my sources inside state government that Obama was lying. My network of informants within state government helps me and guides me. Others filed lawsuits outside Hawai'i that have either been dismissed or discredited. My 'little engine that could' is chugging along.

"I have an outstanding record of high-profile public interest litigation, as recognized by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court five years ago when they allowed me to represent a U. S. Marine in a landmark lawsuit." See www.AndyMartin.com and www.FirstRespondersOnline.us

In a Honolulu news conference on October 22nd Martin disclosed that Frank Marshall Davis was the biological father of Barack Obama, not Barack Obama senior. The Obama campaign has not denied Martin's claim.
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A thousand years from now, Americans will remember the name of "Powerhouse" Andy Martin, while that of Barry Soetoro Hussein Marshall Malcolm Frank Dunham-Davis-X-Obarkyfraud (or whatever his real name is) will have been long forgotten!

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GO, ANDY MARTIN!!!
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amen, God has answered our prayers..this is the beginning of the end of this Evil man trying to grab power! BYE BYE Manchurian wanna-be..sorry, better luck in Kenya!
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Desperation beyond the cusp of madness
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and what hawaii officials would those be?
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Desperation beyond the cusp of madness
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Wasn't that a horror novel by H. P. Lovecraft?

damnedscreampennywise
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Video proof Obama was born in Kenya - his grandmother says so:
[link to www.oilforimmigration.org]
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We have to wait for more ...

Wasn't Obama's mother Stanley ANN Dunham?
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We have to wait for more ...

Wasn't Obama's mother Stanley ANN Dunham?
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I realize that many Americans are fond of giving their children silly names, but "STANLEY", for a girl?

Weird-o-rama!!!

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THERE IS A "ANNE" MENTIONED IN CONNECTION WITH FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS. See below.

I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS SUBJECT.

SO, SOMEONE PLEASE KEEP IT GOING.


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Obama's peverted communist friend Frank Marshall Davis

Cliff Kincaid writes about a Daily Telegraph article on Communist Frank Marshall Davis "a strong influence over a young Barack Obama for nine years of his life, rather than just four, and was a sex pervert and pothead."
Sexual Perversion and Rape

Davis’s alleged sexual perversion adds a dramatic and alarming element to the controversy. Harnden reports that Davis’s sexual proclivities were documented in a 1968 pornographic novel, written just two years before Davis became Obama’s mentor, which was titled, Sex Rebel: Black (Memoirs of a Gourmet Gash). Davis wrote the book, which is now generally unavailable, under a pseudonym, Bob Greene.

Harnden flatly asserts that “The book, which closely tracks Mr. Davis’s life in Chicago and Hawaii and the fact that his first wife was black and his second white, describes in lurid detail a series of shockingly sordid sexual encounters, often involving group sex. One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr. Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne. Mr. Davis wrote that it was the girl who had suggested he had sex with her.”

Harnden added, “He then described how he and his wife would have sex with the girl” many times over the course of several weeks.
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...

OBAMA'S RED MENTOR PRAISES RED ARMY


By Cliff Kincaid

April 9, 2008
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Barack Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, wrote a poem dedicated to the Soviet Red Army. “Smash on, victory-eating Red Army,” he declared. He also wrote poems attacking traditional Christianity and the work of Christian missionaries.

The “Red Army” poem goes beyond hoping for the communists to beat the Nazis in World War II and hails the Soviet revolution. It says:

“Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!”

One Davis poem, “Christ is a Dixie Nigger,” dismisses Christ as “another New White Hope” and declares:

“Remember this, you wise guys
Your tales about Jesus of Nazareth are no-go with me
I’ve got a dozen Christs in Dixie all bloody and black…”

The revelations about Davis’ poetry will add to the controversy over what kind of role Davis played in shaping Obama’s political views. Davis (1905-1987) seems to have had the same kind of anti-American outlook that animated Obama’s longtime pastor, Jeremiah Wright. In fact, Davis was pro-Soviet, not just anti-American.

The controversial poems are included in the book, Black Moods, a collection edited by John Edgar Tidwell, a professor at the University of Kansas and expert on Davis’s writings and career. He confirms that Davis joined the Communist Party but that he publicly tried to deny his communist affiliations.

Davis’ poem, “To the Red Army,” says that “rich industrialists” in Washington and London wanted Hitler to win and “wipe Communism from the globe.”

One Davis poem, “Onward Christian Soldiers,” mocks the Christian hymn by the same name. It talks of Africans being killed with a “Christian gun” instead of a spear by the missionaries following “the religion of Sweet Jesus.” Another Davis poem refers to Christians “who buy righteousness like groceries.”

Davis’ writings have become an issue because he became a father-figure to Obama, who is the leading Democratic candidate for president of the U.S., during their time in Hawaii. Obama acknowledges in his book, Dreams From My Father, that he knew and accepted advice from a black poet named “Frank” but doesn’t identify “Frank” by his full name. However, several sources, including Professor Gerald Horne and Dr. Kathryn Takara, have confirmed that “Frank” was in fact Frank Marshall Davis. Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, first noted evidence that “Frank” was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.

In remarks at a reception of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University, Horne, a contributing editor of the Communist Party journal Political Affairs, asserted that Davis had come into contact with Obama and his family in Hawaii and became the young man’s mentor, influencing his sense of identity and career path.

Obama writes in Dreams From My Father that he saw “Frank” only a few days before he left Hawaii for college. He said that Davis called college an “advanced degree in compromise,” warned Obama not to forget his “people,” and not to “start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that shit.”


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As we noted in a previous article, the record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where he developed his close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, and listened to his “poetry” and views.

But in the same way that he fails to identify “Frank” as Frank Marshall Davis, Obama says nothing about the nature of this “poetry.” However, Tidwell says that several Davis’ poems were viewed as “subversive” by the FBI and that they help explain why it monitored his activities. Tidwell says that the FBI maintained a file on Davis.

One Davis poem, “Peace Quiz for America,” includes the lines:

“Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam
Why did you send me against Axis foes
In the death-kissed foxholes
Of New Guinea and Europe
Without shielding my back
From the sniping Dixie lynchers
In the jungles of Texas and Florida?”

Tidwell asserts that Davis was a “closet” member of the CPUSA and that it’s not clear how long he stayed in the party.

The Senate Internal Security Subcommittee (SISS) reprinted the 1953 and 1954 Reports of the Commission on Subversive Activities of the Territory of Hawaii, which refer to Davis as “an identified member of the Communist Party” who was affiliated with a number of Communist fronts and circulated “inflammatory racial propaganda.” Davis also wrote columns for the Honolulu Record, a Communist paper. These were described as “unrelenting and unmitigated complaints of racial discrimination in the United States.” Davis was labeled “a bitter opponent of capitalism” and “staunch defender” of communists and communist sympathizers.

Max Friedman, a longtime writer and researcher on internal security affairs, discovered that Davis testified in 1956 before the SISS and took the Fifth Amendment on his Communist Party membership.

The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA) took testimony in 1950 from a member of the Honolulu branch of the NAACP, Edward Berman, who said that Davis had showed up to “propagandize” its membership about alleged “racial problems.” Berman referred to “Comrade Davis” as someone who “sneaked” into the NAACP meetings “with the avowed intent and purpose of converting it into a front for the Stalinist line.”

Tidwell says that Davis “felt betrayed” when Soviet dictator Stalin signed the 1939 nonaggression pact with Nazi Germany, which triggered World War II, but that Stalin’s eventual decision to join the U.S. and its allies in a war on the Axis powers “restored a measure of Davis’ confidence in the USSR.”

Another book, The New Red Negro, by James Edward Smethurst, says that while Davis had said he was disturbed by the Hitler-Stalin pact, he did not leave the CPUSA in protest over it.


Tidwell maintains that Davis moved to Hawaii from Chicago, Illinois, in 1948 under “the governmental pressure of McCarthyism,” a reference to anti-communist Senator Joe McCarthy. However, the SISS and the HCUA had nothing to do with McCarthy’s committee, which was the Permanent Investigations Subcommittee of the Senate’s Government Operations Committee.

In fact, McCarthy didn’t emerge as a figure in the anti-communist movement until 1950.

The SISS hearings were held for the purpose of determining the “Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.”



William Rusher, who served as associate counsel to the SISS in 1956-1957, has written that “It is hard for most people to imagine the influence that even a relatively small number of dedicated people can have, but the CPUSA exerted significant power in its heyday—a heyday, be it remembered, in which the Soviet Union impressed many people as the wave of the future, destined to overwhelm a weak and fading West, including the United States.”

This pro-Communist view appears to have been the mindset of Frank Marshall Davis, who spent many hours advising and reading poetry to a young Barack Obama.

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Desperation beyond the cusp of madness
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It's kind of frightening.
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Eileen (or Andy) go peddle your wares elsewhere. What a crock of Horseshit!

So you claim that there is an "original COLB" That has not been shown.

No shit Dick Tracy! You get a "modern day laser printed" copy of the original! No missing info or data. It is all the same.

Now, if you were talking about the hospital form with the time of birth, place of birth, weight and attending Doctor, that would be something entirely different and I am sure (low life that you are) that you would know the difference.

Now. Put up or shut up fuck head! Stop trying to feed the pigeons. If you have anything compelling (which I doubt), then produce it or STFU!
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A thousand years from now, Americans will remember the name of "Powerhouse" Andy Martin, while that of Barry Soetoro Hussein Marshall Malcolm Frank Dunham-Davis-X-Obarkyfraud (or whatever his real name is) will have been long forgotten!

rofllollmaoscream


GO, ANDY MARTIN!!!

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I'm glad you got Dunham-Davis back in there.
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No hate. Where did you get that from Dr Postman? Yourself?
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Desperation beyond the cusp of madness

It's kind of frightening.



I don't see how people can suspend all logic and believe
that the State of Hawaii, including a Republican governor,
the hospital, two local newspapers from 1961, and McCain
can all be involved in some sort of massive conspiracy
that was started back in 1961 when he was born.

They are blinded by hate. Nothing will convince them of
their errors. Even if they allowed these idiots into
the archives to see the damned thing they would probably
try to burn it and then say it never existed.

Hate can blind you.
 Quoting: DrPostman
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THIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE HAS BECOME A THORN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S SIDE. Awesome information at the link:

 Quoting: Eileen 395434


NOTHING new or different there, unless you think Hawaii ISSED A FALSE BIRTH CERTIFICATE to Obama, and has the real (different one) in their archives.

And you would HAVE to be unbelievably stupid to believe such a thing.



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And still nobody knows which hospital he was born in.

He takes over on Tuesday and the Obama Youth say Heil.
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Desperation beyond the cusp of madness

It's kind of frightening.



I don't see how people can suspend all logic and believe
that the State of Hawaii, including a Republican governor,
the hospital, two local newspapers from 1961, and McCain
can all be involved in some sort of massive conspiracy
that was started back in 1961 when he was born.

They are blinded by hate. Nothing will convince them of
their errors. Even if they allowed these idiots into
the archives to see the damned thing they would probably
try to burn it and then say it never existed.

Hate can blind you.
 Quoting: DrPostman

So can fear.

Oh my God
A Black President.
He's gonna sell us all to Afriker.
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And still nobody knows which hospital he was born in.

He takes over on Tuesday and the Obama Youth say Heil.
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Ridiculous,
and stupid.

Another point for the intellectually challenged.
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What freaking cum swallowing republi cunts!

WOW you will try anything not to be a loser

too bad

YOU ARE losers

we will see Tuesday night

assholes
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So can fear.

Oh my God
A Black President.
He's gonna sell us all to Afriker.



Course in Miracles teaches that fear is the root of hate.
 Quoting: DrPostman

Fear, bred from ignorance,
Have to agree.

I sincerely thought we were beyond all this.

I came of age in the seventies,
a pretty idealistic time, I now see.

I feel fortunate to have
grown up when I did.
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WILL THIS STOP THE ELECTION?
WILL THIS ELECTION STOPPAGE CAUSE RIOTS AND MARTIAL LAW?
I PREDICT.....

sorry bout the caps
I'm excited.
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tomato

Obama trying to duck the truth.
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so what will the press say to the citizens, "oops we missed reporting this little story"?

HMMMMMMMMMMM
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OFFICALS IN HAWAII REFUSE TO CONFIRM THAT THE COLB THAT OBAMA US SHOWING ON HIS WEB SITE HAS THE SAME
INFO AS ON THE ORIGINAL BECAUSE OBAMA WILL NOT LET THEM CONFIRM THE DATA. HE IS BLOCKING ALL RELEASES BY THE STATE.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE DO THAT?
OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY

"I inherated and I am Great!"
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[link to www.oilforimmigration.org]

VIDEO PROOF THAT OBAMA WAS BORN IN “KENYA”
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An Open Letter to
Barack Obama
By John Wallace
New York Campaign for Liberty
11-2-8


I know you are busy running for President of the greatest country in the world, but there are a couple of things about your background and qualifications for the office that concern me and many of my fellow Americans. Never before has a Presidential candidate failed to fully disclose routine information about their background that might help the voters make an informed choice in an election. It seems that many records concerning your background have either be been sealed or are temporarily unavailable for review. I know that any honest person like yourself, who is running for the highest office in the land, would never overtly want to keep such information from public review.
Here's a partial list:

1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- Not available, locked down by faculty
4. Harvard College records -- Not released, locked down by faculty
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released (sealed?)
8. Certified Copy of Certification of Live Birth -- Not released (sealed?)
9. Birth records from Kenya -- (Sealed by the government of Kenya until after Election Day)
10. Your record of Christian Baptism -- Not released or unavailable
11. Illinois State Senate schedule - 'Not available'
12. Illinois State Senate records - Destroyed


I believe items #7,8 and 9 are the most critical and concern two issues that are very important to the American people:

1. Are Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.? and

2. Are you legally qualified to hold the Office of President?

In a recent federal court case in Pennsylvania, an American citizen, Philip Berg, filed a lawsuit claiming you were not a natural born citizen of the United States and therefore not qualified to be President. During that case, you never denied Mr. Berg's claims, but neither did you provid a valid birth certificate or other proof that you are a natural born citizen of the United States and therefore qualified under the Constitution to be President. Rather, you hid behind technicalities in the law to avoid the issue and the federal judge hearing the case dismissed Mr. Berg's lawsuit stating that Mr. Berg, acting as a "citizen," did not have legal standing to make such a challenge. This is a prime example of another outrageous decision by a federal judge to deny the American people their rights clearly outlined in the constitution.

There have been lawsuits filed, or currently being filed, in 7 or 8 states with various state Boards of Elections, claiming you are ineligible to be on their ballots because you have not produced proof that you are a natural born citizen of the United States. Mr. Obama, if you are truly and honorable man and a "Natural Born Citizen of the United States" you can clear up this issue very quickly. Just produce a certified copy of your birth certificate in any one of the names you have been know by (Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham).
Your avoidance of the issue and your subsequent failure to prove you are a "Natural Born Citizen of the United States" is very suspicious and raises a very important constitutional issue that must be addressed before the November 4th election. Stop using legal technicalities, record sealing and courtroom maneuvers to avoid the issue. The American people have every constitutional right to know and they will eventually find out.

Try using honesty and truthfulness for a change and put this issue to rest. Either prove that you are a "Natural Born Citizen of the U.S." and are legally qualified to hold the Office of President, or withdraw the race.

If you do not do one of the other, the American people, regardless of party affiliation, will surely stand up and kick you out.

John Wallace
New York Campaign for Liberty
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