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In US economic decline, worst is yet to come

 
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In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
In US economic decline, worst is yet to come

Published on 31-10-2008
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WASHINGTON - The US economy contracted in the third quarter as panicked consumers slashed spending, data showed Thursday in the first downside leg of what analysts say could be a deep and nasty recession.

In its first reading of gross domestic product (GDP) in the July-September period, the Commerce Department said output of goods and services fell at a 0.3 percent annual pace amid a sharp retrenchment by consumers and businesses.

The drop in gross domestic product (GDP) was the first negative figure since the fourth quarter of 2007.

The decline, not as steep as the 0.5 percent annualized drop expected by private economists, comes amid mounting expectations of a sharp falloff in the US economy amid the worst banking and financial crisis in decades.

Some analysts said the drop could be just the start of a deep and painful recession, which is normally defined as two consecutive quarters of negative growth.

"A heftier decline in real GDP is likely in the fourth quarter, which will confirm that the US economy is in recession," said Dawn Desjardins, economist at RBC Capital Markets.

The decrease marked a sharp fall from the 2.8 percent growth rate of the second quarter and reflected weaker consumer and business spending and housing activity, offset in part by strong exports and government spending.

With the decline, economic output was estimated at an annualized 14.43 trillion dollars.

"What is noticeable is that the US economy is hanging onto support from exports that will not last in the fourth quarter," said Avery Shenfeld, economist at CIBC World Markets.

"The rest of the world is slowing and the rising dollar will take some of the shine off exports. The fourth quarter is going to be much worse, with a decline of perhaps as much as two percent."

Consumer spending, the main driver of economic activity, fell 3.1 percent in the quarter on a sharp 14 percent plunge in spending on so-called durable goods like cars and appliances expected to last three years or more, the report showed.

Spending on nondurables such as food and clothing slid 6.4 percent, the biggest decline since 1950.

"The drop in consumer spending was the largest since the recession in the early 1980s," said Augustine Faucher at Economy.com.

"Households are cutting back because of the end of the tax rebates, tighter credit, the worsening labor market, falling house prices, the drop in the stock market, and general angst."

In housing, which has seen a horrific meltdown after a long boom, investment fell 19.1 percent, a major drag on the economy.

While the decline in activity was mild, the report comes amid expectations for one of the worst recessions in decades as the economy is strangled by a collapse in credit amid troubles from banks that bet on the US property bubble.

Ian Shepherdson, chief US economist at High Frequency Economics, noted the GDP number would have been even weaker without accounting for companies building up inventories, which added 0.5 percentage points on the positive side.

"This is the first of a run of negative GDP numbers," he said.

"The economy is in recession. We tentatively expect GDP of minus one percent in the fourth quarter and first quarter of 2009."

Activity had been supported in the second quarter by a big US government stimulus plan that sent out tens of billions of dollars in tax rebates to consumers, but the impact of that has now faded.

Exports, a main source of economic activity earlier this year, also helped keep the GDP figure from being weaker but growth slowed to 5.9 percent in the third quarter from 12.3 percent in the second.

Peter Kretzmer, economist at Bank of America, said another factor skewing the report was a 5.8 percent jump in government purchases,including an 18.2 percent annualized jump in federal defense purchases, which added 0.9 percentage points to GDP.

"We expect a faster pace of GDP decline in the current quarter, as capital spending declines far more rapidly, inventories are reduced at a faster pace, the housing decline remains steep and federal defense spending simmers down," he said.

Citigroup's Steven Wieting said it could get even uglier: "Production and employment declines, credit tightening, and wealth destruction are clearly more severe in the current (fourth) quarter, which should show shrinkage in GDP in excess of the 3.0 percent decline posted in consumption last quarter."


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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
but the mkt is up..
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but the mkt is up..
[/quot temporarily up. Just wait until after the elections.
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but the mkt is up..
[/quot temporarily up. Just wait until after the elections.
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Damn Right! Wait till after elections. They lost control of the economy... or perhaps a warning shot over the bow to the citizens that the powers that be are in control. Something big is on the horizon and it totally sucks. This recent rally is purely a head fake for election purposes. I agree; but we will see.
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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
True True, I def feel that the very worst of this "economic crisis" is yet to come. You can't go by these fake rallies and fake numbers that the media is throwing at us. Our economy is in a chokehold and our dollar is on the ropes!!! The day China and all these other countries refuse to accept our currency and try to dump all of their US dollars will be the day our economy completely implodes. I believe this to be right on the horizon, they're just holding it off until after the elections take place...
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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
I also think this should be pinned!!
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^^ gravity is a harsh reality. ^^
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Read article then decide if V U or L.
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I think it is going to be a L
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We haven't seen anything yet...get ready for the big fall.
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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
PERMANENT RECESSION....ZERO GROWTH ECONOMY....SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT....
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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
everything is going to be just fine, we have hit bottom, obama will lead us to a new prosperity.
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just fixing the youtube link.... oops.

especially like the last quote. Both Obama and McCain want this crash over with as soon as possible - so they are not blamed for the crash - to lay it on Bush where it belongs.
^^ gravity is a harsh reality. ^^
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i so broke, cant pay attention.
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everything is going to be just fine, we have hit bottom, obama will lead us to a new prosperity.
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LOL...that's funny.
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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
The economy is fine...I was out and about yesterday shopping, my son needed some cooler weather shirts. The stores were all PACKED and people were buying tons. It kinda reminded me of shopping the day after Thanksgiving it was THAT busy at all the stores we went to, long wait on lines, and hard to find parking.

My own business has seen a huge increase in traffic and sales the past few months. Maybe its just the area here but I dont see such a horrible economy here!
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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
We haven't seen anything yet...get ready for the big fall.
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this post is right on the money.
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i've been saying this for months ..... and i'll be saying this for months yet!
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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
hfThanks for the pin!


Tune out of this comment if you don't wanna read woo-woo stuff, lol...

I'm an astrologer, and election day November 4th is a mess.

The US Presidential election of 4 November 2008 has a void of course Moon until after the polls close; Saturn opposing Uranus (really bad); and Mars square Neptune (war aspect), among other stellar disasters.

Saturn opposes Uranus 4 times between 2008 and 2010, and the US election day is the first time in this series. Mercury changes signs on the 4th from Libra to Scorpio (deception, hidden things, ut-oh) and Mars is in Scorpio (war signal).

One consensus is pretty much clear among all astrologers ~ it will not be a clean, clear-cut election. It may be 2004 all over again (worse) ~ stolen and thrown-out ballots not counted... Diebold winning. There is assassination danger over Obama, which almost everyone is picking up on. Also, illness is around McCain.

There is no consensus among astrologers as to who will win, Obama or McCain.

The energy is so confused and muddled around US election day that, for over a year, I have seen "no election". I was mistaken about that, but the outcome of this election is very far from clean, and it may not be known for weeks or months.

Most astrologers agree on more (worse)financial doom worldwide for the rest of 2008 and into 2009 ~ it is far from over. Pluto's re-entry into Capricorn on 26 November 2008 guarantees this.

So, please overlook this comment if it doesn't interest you. If it does... check it out, get prepared, and buckle up! Wasayo
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Re: In US economic decline, worst is yet to come
OP...what are the odds of rioting?
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OP...what are the odds of rioting?
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Odds of rioting... VERY strong. Wasayo
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OP...what are the odds of rioting?



Odds of rioting... VERY strong. Wasayo
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Personally, I don't think marshall law, should it be imposed due to rioting, would be successful. I just see a lot of confusion - if the worst happens.
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OP...what are the odds of rioting?



Odds of rioting... VERY strong. Wasayo
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Let the RODNEY KING GAMES BEGIN!
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"this election is very far from clean, and it may not be known for weeks or months."

Wow! Keep us informed of anything new.
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"this election is very far from clean, and it may not be known for weeks or months."

Wow! Keep us informed of anything new.
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Yes, AC 495140,

I know this is not "anything new" ~ it's all over the news, now. Everyone knows it.

But, many believe that the worldwide and US financial tsunami is over. The main topic on this thread is that it is not ~ far worse is coming.

Maybe also the import of the US election is that the US will be rudderless and leaderless (lame duck President) ~ and Martial Law, nuking Iran... anything could happen (and probably will).

Don't forget Bush has the huge financial meeting in D.C. coming in November after the elections ~ anything could happen between election day and inauguration day... also not "anything new".

Heya, if you find "something new", please let me know, ok? I'm interested for sure. Wasayo
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Dear AC 538734,

Wow and zap! Thank you for the excellent article, "The End of Prosperity" from Global Research. It is right on point for sure! Wasayo
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There is NO confidence in any of the structures or world governments or world religions... NONE... Guess who is supposed to show up and save the day..

Fable? Myth?

Can't you see it in the eyes of the pundits. They are scared shirtless.

The mobs might even go after them.

This is only beginning

Pray folks if only for yourself and your family but pray.

Pretend your in a fox hole where there are no aethiests
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Never forget 9/11 was an inside job.

The economic crisis is a scam within a scam. The free market is a myth told by hypocrites.
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The monopoly is secure.
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Don't sign the line.

Don't go deeper in debt.

Let the banks die.
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The economy is fine...I was out and about yesterday shopping, my son needed some cooler weather shirts. The stores were all PACKED and people were buying tons. It kinda reminded me of shopping the day after Thanksgiving it was THAT busy at all the stores we went to, long wait on lines, and hard to find parking.

My own business has seen a huge increase in traffic and sales the past few months. Maybe its just the area here but I dont see such a horrible economy here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 537531


If they are usign credit cards they haven't bought a thing.
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There is NO confidence in any of the structures or world governments or world religions... NONE... Guess who is supposed to show up and save the day..

Fable? Myth?

Can't you see it in the eyes of the pundits. They are scared shirtless.

The mobs might even go after them.

This is only beginning

Pray folks if only for yourself and your family but pray.

Pretend your in a fox hole where there are no aethiests
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 485914


His image is in you ... thats all it takes for his coming





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