Actually, militia & survivalism are very mutually exclusive.
SHR puts the word in the title so the thread will come up on a search...
A survivalist is someone who has MOVED from urban/suburban or even a rural area which might require militia or paramilitary "patrolling" or action/intervention.
If a "survivalist" is anticipating fighting military or paramilitary forces, that person is not a survivalist.
I read the threads, pack-out lists and the tips. Nice of the author "trench" to share, but pretty damn limited and specific in scope. The tips thread might be great for some VietNam LRRP patrol, but there are very few real desolate or deep wilderness areas anywhere near locales that might have military forces operating in their midst.
Bullshit is Bullshit.
Planning on taking tips from a thread you read on militia patrolling activities? You are way too damn late to that party. Or maybe you are training with Mark Koernke's Wolverines?
A survivalist has moved his life away from the "line of fire".
Anyone who is planning to make use of the tips thread should already be way beyond the scope of that article in their planning. What I don't see is The Outback Nature Boys defending anyone or taking the fight anywhere if they are in a wilderness area where they can make use of the "tips" discussed. May as well rent the Fight Club DVD and get your tips there.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 458312 11/3/2008 2:19 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
lots and lots of survivalists "out there" ... surviving
what happens and what kind of humans repopulate the earth when all of the surviving is not necessary anymore?
I mean.....
aren't all of the survivalists sorta ... well... temperamental?
won't survivalists (in the end) kill each other to survive?
somehow this doesn't make sense to me.....
I'm not saying it's not wise to be prepared for hard times,.......but ......
well, that is an interesting theory, but most of the people i know, want to do more than just survive, and they are certainly not the dog eat dog type of people you envision. take the mormons, or the amish, or Mennonites, you can bet on these folks being around, no question about that, i watched the amish buy some serious weapons at one of the gun shows i went to years ago
but just thinking about the people i know on GLP, and my friends and family, yeah they will get really nasty if you push them, but nearly all of them just want peace, and to be left alone, but are more than willing to help others
i have no fricking idea what is going to happen, not for sure, but i do plan on being around to help rebuild, and if that includes making lots of babies, well hot damn.. i am on it ;)
Quoting: malu
Hi you 2! 11th H W here. I've been watching almost every TEOTEAWKI movie, and in particular Jericho [link to www.joost.com] I can get my hands on. It's good because I watch them with a different perspective and motivation to try to glean creativity and possibility. Jericho is really good as it portrays a lot of reactionary element and helps you think about things you might want to be capable of doing, or hope you don't do. Our minds are going to be our greatest weapons in the future. Treat your mind like your firearms, keep the action clear and your sights straight.
God bless y'all and all of us
11 -out!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 539538 11/3/2008 2:42 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
Actually, militia & survivalism are very mutually exclusive.
SHR puts the word in the title so the thread will come up on a search...
A survivalist is someone who has MOVED from urban/suburban or even a rural area which might require militia or paramilitary "patrolling" or action/intervention.
If a "survivalist" is anticipating fighting military or paramilitary forces, that person is not a survivalist.
I read the threads, pack-out lists and the tips. Nice of the author "trench" to share, but pretty damn limited and specific in scope. The tips thread might be great for some VietNam LRRP patrol, but there are very few real desolate or deep wilderness areas anywhere near locales that might have military forces operating in their midst.
Bullshit is Bullshit.
Planning on taking tips from a thread you read on militia patrolling activities? You are way too damn late to that party. Or maybe you are training with Mark Koernke's Wolverines?
A survivalist has moved his life away from the "line of fire".
Anyone who is planning to make use of the tips thread should already be way beyond the scope of that article in their planning. What I don't see is The Outback Nature Boys defending anyone or taking the fight anywhere if they are in a wilderness area where they can make use of the "tips" discussed. May as well rent the Fight Club DVD and get your tips there.
Quoting: Lester
I was in the process of writing a long reply to the OP but then I noticed you basically made the point for me. A suvivalist should be more concerned about foraging, hunting, growing and preserving food all while staying unseen. The OPs method of food procurement will probably be banditry and stealing.
Actually, militia & survivalism are very mutually exclusive.
SHR puts the word in the title so the thread will come up on a search...
A survivalist is someone who has MOVED from urban/suburban or even a rural area which might require militia or paramilitary "patrolling" or action/intervention.
If a "survivalist" is anticipating fighting military or paramilitary forces, that person is not a survivalist.
I read the threads, pack-out lists and the tips. Nice of the author "trench" to share, but pretty damn limited and specific in scope. The tips thread might be great for some VietNam LRRP patrol, but there are very few real desolate or deep wilderness areas anywhere near locales that might have military forces operating in their midst.
Bullshit is Bullshit.
Planning on taking tips from a thread you read on militia patrolling activities? You are way too damn late to that party. Or maybe you are training with Mark Koernke's Wolverines?
A survivalist has moved his life away from the "line of fire".
Anyone who is planning to make use of the tips thread should already be way beyond the scope of that article in their planning. What I don't see is The Outback Nature Boys defending anyone or taking the fight anywhere if they are in a wilderness area where they can make use of the "tips" discussed. May as well rent the Fight Club DVD and get your tips there.
Quoting: Lester
Not to nitpick because I think your idea is correct, but I think the wilderness areas will probably be patrolled pretty heavily, at least during the initial days. The sheep will demand it, to keep the "crazies" from "ruining nature", and also out of the realization that they don't have the skills needed to make a weekend, much less a longer time in such a situation. Miserly loves company.
Plus, let's face it, when TSHTF, if you're not already in a relative wilderness area, chances are you're not going to get there terribly easily. These ideas have been common forever, and you can bet your ass TPTB won't do anything extreme until they've got a plan to prevent folks from escaping.
Then there's the whole concept of the idea losing it's advantage as boatloads of "survivalists" race into their favored patch of woods. Even if everyone is at their best, they're going to be practically shoulder to shoulder, which makes hiding a bit difficult. At worst, you're going to have a fair number of edgy people punching holes in each other every somebody steps on a twig. With limited feasible wilderness areas, TPTB simply have to circle the parameter, and you've effectively caged yourself, similar to the idea of fleeing to Australia even as that country enacts some of the most totalitarian laws on the books.
The best trap is one your prey runs into, so to speak. Once all the survivalists are safely tucked into the wilderness, you can hunt them at your leisure. Neither militiaman or survivalist will do well in such a scenario.
That said, this information does have it's place, and it's good to know and consider all your options. These ideas are plenty easy to adapt to your own situation, on the local level, and like any idea or weapon, nice to have in the back of your head if the situation arises.
So, again, it's good information, but only as applicable as your plans and the situation dictates. As with anything, take it with a grain of salt, and don't hold too dearly to any particular plan. ~
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"He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand your words." ~Elbert Hubbard
Actually, militia & survivalism are very mutually exclusive.
SHR puts the word in the title so the thread will come up on a search...
A survivalist is someone who has MOVED from urban/suburban or even a rural area which might require militia or paramilitary "patrolling" or action/intervention.
If a "survivalist" is anticipating fighting military or paramilitary forces, that person is not a survivalist.
I read the threads, pack-out lists and the tips. Nice of the author "trench" to share, but pretty damn limited and specific in scope. The tips thread might be great for some VietNam LRRP patrol, but there are very few real desolate or deep wilderness areas anywhere near locales that might have military forces operating in their midst.
Bullshit is Bullshit.
Planning on taking tips from a thread you read on militia patrolling activities? You are way too damn late to that party. Or maybe you are training with Mark Koernke's Wolverines?
A survivalist has moved his life away from the "line of fire".
Anyone who is planning to make use of the tips thread should already be way beyond the scope of that article in their planning. What I don't see is The Outback Nature Boys defending anyone or taking the fight anywhere if they are in a wilderness area where they can make use of the "tips" discussed. May as well rent the Fight Club DVD and get your tips there.
Quoting: Lester
lester if you would have really read the threads instead of concentrating on your fucking critiquing them , you would realize im not the author ,a former marine who goes by the name tire iron is , and the threads provide a pretty comprehensive list on how and what and why to loadout if you got to bailout..Used to think you were pretty cool now i know you are just another arrogant know it all dickhead..Later.. I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free.
- Nikos Kazantzakis
"Before all else, be armed."
Niccolo Machiavelli
"Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status-quo. You can quote them. Disagree with them. Glorify, or villify them. But the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do."-Jack Kerouac
Yeah it is ,your pompous ass proved that beyond a doubt.... I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free.
- Nikos Kazantzakis
"Before all else, be armed."
Niccolo Machiavelli
"Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status-quo. You can quote them. Disagree with them. Glorify, or villify them. But the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do."-Jack Kerouac
as I said last nite, this type of info will not apply to 99% of society.....unless they use it as a fantasy creation or in some new survivalists Playstation game...like Metal Gear pt 7 ...
LOL....
Anonymous Coward User ID: 541486 11/3/2008 8:51 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
yeah...it is a full moon tonite, perfect oppurtunity for you to go get out your nightvision googles, slingshot and compass, and practice taking out your nations military..
LOLOLOLOL
why would anyone use night vision with a full moon? think about it, try extra extra hard
how are those spelling lessons coming?
never mind
Quoting: malu
more PROOF of your idiocys...
just because theres a full moon...doesnt mean it isnt a cloudy night where nightvision would be needed...
BUSTED AGAIN....
Malu = the wannabe revolter, sitting in his chair, eating doritos, drinking a peopsi and watchin rambo pt 6..
LOL....
Anonymous Coward User ID: 537866 11/3/2008 9:02 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
Nice article if you want to play G.I. Joe and think that THAT lifestyle and attitude are helpfull for survival. NOT!!!
Honestly most of the vital things for survival I mess in this article.
Try this one though, it is free, and prepares anyone for any situation without having to play G.I. Joe. The philosophy and psychology of arms is bankrupt. Learn how to survive in real terms if you wnat to make a chance.
I mean, what's the point in knowing where to have smoke grenades when what you really need to know is how to make fire, how to clean drinking water, and how to build shelter!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 537406 11/3/2008 9:28 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
Nice thread, thanks trench! Just like with everything take what you want and leave the rest. I believe everything taking place now is coming to a head. "Better to prepare for everything than to prepare for nothing." This is my own personal quote.
What planet are you people living on ? If things get so bad, that people will need these things to survive, its all over. Your parachute cord and AR15s are not gonna be any match for the governemnts tanks, humvees and agents with body armor. Stop watching stupid hollywood movies. Rambo isnt real and is totally inapplicable to 99.999% of our society.
The majortiy of society cant even manage their checkbooks/ finances , so they sure as hell arent gonna be prepared to utuilize this crap.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 541002
Its like a REALLY BAD DAY kinda thing...
Some just cant get anything right haha!
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and a 5+ to OP! :)
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. . "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell
"IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL"
- General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06 "Command Override"
. Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.”
-Eleanor Roosevelt
Trench found interesting info.I personally asked for myself.
What the FUCK is wrong with considering this information?
Does it make you feel special or smarter or better to clown someone for passing information along?
No one gives a shit what the man is on about? Simply go to another thread.Real easy.
I always get the impression of some 11 to 20something asshole know it all little prick trying to sound smart.My experience with these people is that I would much rather have someone like Malu Trench Omega UD etc..or any of these people watching my back than some little TURD who has it all figured out.This thread should be quite enjoyable and interesting to some.
Don't like it start your own thread you little attention whores!
Got something to add to the discussion? Please do.
Disagree if you like but stop trying to flame some shit you wouldn't know the first thing about.
Trench found interesting info.I personally asked for myself.
What the FUCK is wrong with considering this information?
Does it make you feel special or smarter or better to clown someone for passing information along?
No one gives a shit what the man is on about? Simply go to another thread.Real easy.
I always get the impression of some 11 to 20something asshole know it all little prick trying to sound smart.My experience with these people is that I would much rather have someone like Malu Trench Omega UD etc..or any of these people watching my back than some little TURD who has it all figured out.This thread should be quite enjoyable and interesting to some.
Don't like it start your own thread you little attention whores!
Got something to add to the discussion? Please do.
Disagree if you like but stop trying to flame some shit you wouldn't know the first thing about.
Pansies.
Quoting: Frigg Stuyvesant
Heres a visual to confirm the above, Frigg! ;)
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. . "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell
"IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL"
- General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06 "Command Override"
. Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.”
-Eleanor Roosevelt
"IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL"
- General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06 "Command Override"
. Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.”
-Eleanor Roosevelt
Evil Twin Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 541529 11/3/2008 9:57 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
Here is a site that I stumbled across a few days ago that may interest some of you.
[link to www.kissata.com] To visualize the coming apocalypse, imagine, if you will, Oprah & Rosie O'Donnell wrestling for the last rib at an all-you can-eat Bar-B-Q...
XLR8 Forum Moderator User ID: 418035 11/3/2008 10:18 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
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* Filters up to 500 litres of water
* The iStraw can be used for local municiapal tap water, streams and lakes but always refer to the instructions
* The iStraw should not be used to filter brackish or turbid water and it does not remove chemical contaminants or viruses contained in water
Quoting: XLR8
Great idea!
I wonder if a homemade version of that is possible?
Actually, militia & survivalism are very mutually exclusive.
SHR puts the word in the title so the thread will come up on a search...
A survivalist is someone who has MOVED from urban/suburban or even a rural area which might require militia or paramilitary "patrolling" or action/intervention.
If a "survivalist" is anticipating fighting military or paramilitary forces, that person is not a survivalist.
I read the threads, pack-out lists and the tips. Nice of the author "trench" to share, but pretty damn limited and specific in scope. The tips thread might be great for some VietNam LRRP patrol, but there are very few real desolate or deep wilderness areas anywhere near locales that might have military forces operating in their midst.
Bullshit is Bullshit.
Planning on taking tips from a thread you read on militia patrolling activities? You are way too damn late to that party. Or maybe you are training with Mark Koernke's Wolverines?
A survivalist has moved his life away from the "line of fire".
Anyone who is planning to make use of the tips thread should already be way beyond the scope of that article in their planning. What I don't see is The Outback Nature Boys defending anyone or taking the fight anywhere if they are in a wilderness area where they can make use of the "tips" discussed. May as well rent the Fight Club DVD and get your tips there.
Quoting: Lester
AGREE
Anonymous Coward User ID: 478838 11/3/2008 10:51 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
Actually, militia & survivalism are very mutually exclusive.
SHR puts the word in the title so the thread will come up on a search...
A survivalist is someone who has MOVED from urban/suburban or even a rural area which might require militia or paramilitary "patrolling" or action/intervention.
If a "survivalist" is anticipating fighting military or paramilitary forces, that person is not a survivalist.
I read the threads, pack-out lists and the tips. Nice of the author "trench" to share, but pretty damn limited and specific in scope. The tips thread might be great for some VietNam LRRP patrol, but there are very few real desolate or deep wilderness areas anywhere near locales that might have military forces operating in their midst.
Bullshit is Bullshit.
Planning on taking tips from a thread you read on militia patrolling activities? You are way too damn late to that party. Or maybe you are training with Mark Koernke's Wolverines?
A survivalist has moved his life away from the "line of fire".
Anyone who is planning to make use of the tips thread should already be way beyond the scope of that article in their planning. What I don't see is The Outback Nature Boys defending anyone or taking the fight anywhere if they are in a wilderness area where they can make use of the "tips" discussed. May as well rent the Fight Club DVD and get your tips there.
AGREE
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 541559
I, for one, appreciate what Trench, Malu and others here have to offer!
With the current world situation, we don't know what is likely to happen in the relatively near future. My location could be vulnerable to several different situations if the SHTF in Any serious way. Information like this might not be available if disruption of services occur and it is good to have access and store it now... just in case.
No armchair warrior here either... just an aging female that has seen enough weird shit to realize that anything can happen. Preparedness is not uncalled for... even to being prepared for participation in a local militia if protection of our community is necessary.
Too many today have the attitude that "They" (police/military/HS) will protect them. If real chaos develops and/or opportunistic invasion becomes a reality, local militias could prove to be the backbone of this country's self-defense. On a lesser scale, this area could be targeted by roving bands of thugs believing small, isolated communities like this are easy pickin's. Military will likely be occupied elsewhere and local law enforcement would be totally inadequate to the task... Who will protect our homes and families then, if not each one of us?
I don't find the idea appealing, but I damn sure know how to handle myself if the need arises and can provide adequate background support for those protecting me. This information can help the inexperienced if their survival ever depends on having it.
Thanks guys!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 380667 11/3/2008 11:12 AM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
For those of you who plan on living this type of lifestyle
when bad things start to happen:
You have to realize that the military has technology
we don't even know about. They have to be ten years plus
ahead of what we are seeing now...perhaps more.
The laundry list of what the OP posted...hmmmmmmm
I just don't see how being out in the open or the wild
is going to help you. You are just no match...you are
vulnerable.
We live in a world now where we are easily tracked.
That's the reality. This is why the Bible warns about
this time....there really is no permanent place to hide.
The only thing you could have on your side is God...if
you believe in him.
This just isn't going to be like the patriots of old..
the best survivalism is to get right with God.
The governments of the world know where all the hiding
spots are....geez. The Beast system will soon be upon you.
just checked that out, i have never heard of them before. this has been a great post imho, like anything else here, you take what you need and leave the rest, no one is forcing anyone to conform to a set of ideals. although there have been a number of blabbering idiots on this thread.
here is a group i belong to, another great bunch of people that actually get out and use their skills to help people, and enjoy teaching others that actually get off their asses and get into the woods:
[link to www.nasar.org] When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
For those of you who plan on living this type of lifestyle
when bad things start to happen:
You have to realize that the military has technology
we don't even know about. They have to be ten years plus
ahead of what we are seeing now...perhaps more.
The laundry list of what the OP posted...hmmmmmmm
I just don't see how being out in the open or the wild
is going to help you. You are just no match...you are
vulnerable.
We live in a world now where we are easily tracked.
That's the reality. This is why the Bible warns about
this time....there really is no permanent place to hide.
The only thing you could have on your side is God...if
you believe in him.
This just isn't going to be like the patriots of old..
the best survivalism is to get right with God.
The governments of the world know where all the hiding
spots are....geez. The Beast system will soon be upon you.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380667
seriously now, i hope you don't believe that, that is beyond paranoia and into the lunatic fringe. you are glorifying the enemy, they are not this all seeing, all knowing godly force. they are a bunch of corrupt idiots. there have been numerous examples of this in the last decade.
do you really think they are going to track down every person who disagrees with them? they do not have an endless supply of predators with side winder missiles, nor the people to run them. if we are so easily tracked, where is Bin Laden? we put all of our resources and a hefty bounty on this person, and i have yet to see his head on a platter.
at BEST they could control a couple of cities, and not very well.
my take on this thread is the ability to spend time in the woods if you need to. i am not throwing all of my crap in a paper bag and walking into the woods and expecting to survive. i am staying right here, but if i need to do an extended patrol through the woods to either help people, do recon, or set up an ambush, i have no problem doing any of that, just like a bunch of other folks i know.
don't bury your head in the fricking sand, tough times need tough people When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking."
Anonymous Coward User ID: 535726 11/3/2008 1:00 PM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
lester if you would have really read the threads instead of concentrating on your fucking critiquing them , you would realize im not the author ,a former marine who goes by the name tire iron is , and the threads provide a pretty comprehensive list on how and what and why to loadout if you got to bailout..Used to think you were pretty cool now i know you are just another arrogant know it all dickhead..Later..
Quoting: Trench
I thought that opinion about Lester was just mine!
Everyone one of his replies seems to be "you don't know shit and I know everything"
While I agree to a point with what he's saying the way he states it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
To prevent this if I see his name on a thread or a post I just skip it!
I realize trench, (first time I have seen you post or reply, that I recall), you did not style the posts as "survival" information. I did read through the entire tips post last night before making the reply. Also read the bob posts.
There is a romantic ideal about the freedom fighter. The tips thread is bullshit, not because it won't/didn't work, but because the objective is not to refight the VietNam war or patrol wilderness.
Whoever the author was of the tips, he is reliving some shit from VN. I own a couple of poncho liners, no way that they are better than a sleeping bag. The damn things are bulky as hell. You'd be better off with a wool blanket.
I really wonder why any of this shit makes sense, unless you live at the edge of wilderness and believe that the few soldiers/occupiers/oppressors are gonna be hunting your ass down? How many other guys/families are there at the end of the road? How many troopers does it take to surround and prevail? Almost anybody who lives out in the country is gonna have some access to the woods or a river etc. If there are 1/2 million residences like this, and it takes a platoon to cover/take each one; we are talking 10,000,000 soldiers (plus their logistics/transport/supply) just to secure a miniscule fraction of the population.
Does any of what the tipster wrote still make sense to you?
Do you really think there will even be 10,000,000 troops to occupy the whole nation? If 80% of the population is in the metro areas, towns and cities; why would TPTB give a damn about the rural folks?
Seems like the tips ought to be aimed at urban movement and resupply. If you are going to take back your nation and cities, plan to fight there rather than hundreds of miles away.
Your best bugout pack would likely be some old, but fully-functional beater-looking sedan with a good locking trunk. A panel truck or cargo van has lots of opportunities.
If you really expect to be traipsing through the woods with guns and loaded down patrol packs; unless you are patrolling your town's park system or river bank network, you are probably wasting your time.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 498798 11/3/2008 1:54 PM
Re: Survivalism For Those Who Asked ..Militia Tips and Tricks
Well, that is it. After all of this, just find the Amish and help chop down a tree, because you killed you a ba'r when you was only three. Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier.
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