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Israel's Stake in the U.S. Elections

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(IsraelNN.com) With the U.S. presidential elections less than 24 hours away, the question of who Jews support is a key issue. In the video below, an Israeli expert discusses Israel's stake in the U.S. elections.



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McCain is pro-Israel.
On the other hand, Barak Hussein Obama is pro-Islam.
Do not be fooled by his claims to be a Christian and to be pro-Israel.
He is neither.
Just look at who his pals are and who his strongest supporters are.
An Obama presidency will be a serious threat to the nation and people of Israel


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damned
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McCain is pro-Israel.
On the other hand, Barak Hussein Obama is pro-Islam.
Do not be fooled by his claims to be a Christian and to be pro-Israel.
He is neither.
Just look at who his pals are and who his strongest supporters are.
An Obama presidency will be a serious threat to the nation and people of Israel


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ugh oh...

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hmmmmm.....well...I see I am up now...hmmmmm, you have my vote now Trinity.
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McCain is pro-Israel.


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Yes he certainly is...listen to this!
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we all know what this means....
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I bet they are, lol.
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we all know what this means....
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I'm afraid you are too right.
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Young Jews more likely to vote McCain than older ones




Remember the Yenta who made the video urging young Jews to shlep to Florida to urge their grandparents to vote for Barack Hussein Obama? Remember how I said at the time that it was plausible that more young Jews would actually vote for John Sidney McCain and that the older ones would have trouble pulling the lever for a Republican because they haven't done so since the Depression? Remember how I explained why - because more young Jews have returned to their religious faith than older Jews? Here's more proof I was right.
Contrary to the perception that young people are in the bag for Obama, polls indicate that younger Jewish voters are more likely than older Jews to support Republican Sen. John McCain for president. This surprising finding most recently turned up in an October 23 analysis by Gallup polls that showed growing support for Obama among all Jews, who for a long time had been cool to the Democratic nominee.

That survey, compiled from the monthly averages of Gallup’s daily tracking polls, including interviews with more than 500 Jewish registered voters each month, found that while 74% of Jews aged 55 and over were supporting Obama, only 67% of those under 35 said they’d vote for the Democratic nominee.

“It’s counter intuitive,” said Lydia Saad, Gallup’s senior editor.

But this finding does fit into other data showing that younger Jews are trending conservative politically. A study of the 2004 Jewish vote by the Solomon Project, an effort to record Jews’ civic involvement, found younger voters were slightly more likely than older Jews to support Republican George W. Bush over Democrat John Kerry. That analysis found 23% of voters under 30 voted for Bush, compared to 20% of those ages 45 to 60 and 17% among the 60-plus crowd.
It's not at all counter-intuitive. It all has to do with religious observance.
This finding doesn’t come as much of a surprise to voters like Zach Hanover, a 19-year-old sophomore at The George Washington University who plans to vote for McCain when he casts his first ballot. Hanover, an Orthodox Jew reared in Memphis, where his father, a Democrat, would drag him to rallies with Bill Clinton and Al Gore, said his decision to be a Republican was an easy one.

“I just made a bullet list — abortion, taxes, spending, size of government — almost word for word it was the Republican platform,” said Hanover, adding that the traditional values he shares as an Orthodox Jew fit well with the values embraced by the GOP. “If you look at the biblical liturgy, the Judaic religion is about life.”

Much of the evidence pointing to Republican growth among younger Jews remains anecdotal but fits with the broader demographic trends that Hanover illustrates. Orthodox Jews represent the fastest growing segment of the Jewish community. They have more children, tend to be younger and more conservative politically than less observant Jews. Moreover, the Russian Jewish community, which also trends on the young side, is also overwhelmingly more politically conservative. Voters who are more religiously observant, regardless of denomination, tend to support more conservative political candidates.

“When you add that up, the two most Republican segments of the (Jewish) population are younger,” said Jonathan Sarna, a Brandeis University professor who has studied the Jewish vote.

These more conservative younger Jews are frequently more free-market oriented, less tied to the big government New Deal programs such as Social Security that older generations of Jews embrace, and more hawkish when it comes to national security and Israel.
We can still hope that will help John McCain this year, and in any event, the increasingly Orthodox population bodes well for the Republican party in the future.

The bottom picture at the top is of a Presidential election debate held at Yeshiva University, an Orthodox institution. The top picture is an older couple who support Obama.

posted by Carl in Jerusalem


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hmmmmm.....well...I see I am up now...hmmmmm, you have my vote now Trinity.



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'You' Mazel tov...you have my support...hmmmm and who is it eating his own tail?
Dont know the metaphora....jeeez, can you help me with that please?
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Gaia, understand that the people who have replied to this thread don't support either mccain or obama.
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That's why I love Israel. The only country in the world that sees through Obama's B.S.

Why can't you guys be our 51st state already?
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Why Israel's supporters shouldn't vote for Obama




San Diego lawyer Michael Rosen takes on the question of the hour:
IN THESE pages, Rep. Howard Berman, a California Democrat, recently did his level best to quell some of these doubts, but in an article riddled with inconsistencies and non-sequiturs.

Berman contends that McCain will perpetuate "more-of-the-same" policies initiated by President George W. Bush. Putting aside the fact that Bush has been a stalwart supporter of Israel even during perilous times such as the 2006 Lebanon War, Berman ignores the fact that while McCain agrees with many of Bush's core principles, including an unswerving dedication to Israel's security, he has frequently defied the administration's way of acting on those principles.

On one hand, Berman assails the strategy of encouraging our European allies to engage diplomatically with the Islamic Republic - a gambit that has manifestly failed. On the other, Berman contends that Obama will somehow eliminate Iran's weapons by "regaining the respect of the international community." Clearly, our attempts at multilateral diplomatic engagement haven't gotten the job done, so how will more of the same succeed? Perhaps Berman believes that a direct conversation between Obama and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is likely to produce results?

Finally, Berman asserts that only Obama "thinks through his positions before he acts," and that Obama will form "an executive team that can perform at the highest level." Can he really mean that men such as Bush and McCain simply act without thought? Banalities aside, does he truly believe that other presidents prefer advisers who perform at low levels?

The pertinent question is who will populate that executive team - responsible (if misguided) foreign policy hands like Dennis Ross, or problematic and even overtly hostile voices like Samantha Power, Robert Malley or Merrill McPeak. Again, this larger question pervades any honest assessment of Obama; he will fill about 3,000 vacancies in the executive branch, and at least a few bad apples will surely find their way in.

BUT WHILE Berman's reasoning is unsound, much like a recent case made here by Stuart Eizenstat, at least it's respectful. The same, sadly, cannot be said for other Jewish Obama supporters, for whom no calumny or tactic is beyond the pale.

Rep. Robert Wexler, a Florida Democrat, led a scurrilous attack on Gov. Sarah Palin, relying on discredited reports to suggest that she supported Patrick Buchanan, banned books, supported creationism, and seeks to convert Jews. Wexler's claims, all of which have been meticulously refuted, unfairly tarnished Palin's image in the Jewish community.

More recently, former congressman Mel Levine, one of Obama's Jewish outreach specialists, abruptly withdrew from several Southern California community debates and urged the hosts to bar the Republican Jewish Coalition from participating. The RJC, which has respectfully but unapologetically challenged Obama's positions on Israel, had previously conducted numerous debates with Jewish Democrats, including Levine himself. To their credit, the (nonpartisan) hosts of these forums, some of which I am participating in, refused to bow to the Obama campaign's pressure.

Ultimately, a candid discussion of the candidates' respective merits is precisely what is warranted by our democracy and the Jewish tradition. The concerns that have been raised about Obama cannot simply be wished away or suppressed by a refusal to acknowledge them. Many of my own Jewish friends who still have not yet made up their minds deserve the information needed to reach an educated decision.

No matter how the Jewish community ends up voting, we would do well to keep Singer's admonition in mind, and approach our polling places with our skepticism firmly in hand.
What I've seen in the past eleven days in Blue Boston is that too many Jews are just wishing their concerns about Obama away. I spoke to one lady this morning who voted absentee for Obama a week ago, and after a week of listening to me, she very much regrets her choice.



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Israel's Stake in the U.S. Elections

by IsraelNN TV


(IsraelNN.com) With the U.S. presidential elections less than 24 hours away, the question of who Jews support is a key issue. In the video below, an Israeli expert discusses Israel's stake in the U.S. elections.



[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
 Quoting: ~GAIA~





why should we give a fuck what Israel thinks ????



who gives a fuck
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They only pinned this cause they like Gaia's avatar.

the entire world is closely following the american elections.

should I start a thread that says Iran is closely following the American elections?
would you pin it?
(answer - only if it had Gaia's avatar...)


Now.... which Mod has the hots for Gaia?
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Israel will have to attack iran on there own if b.o it elected. Or with Bush before he leaves office.
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LOL interesting emotions here.

I can understand why the election is a big deal in Israel.

Obama will not give them the same support.

So anyone living in Israel has to at some level worry about being attacked, perhaps severely.

An Obama victory might lead the govt to attack Iran say.
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pinning this shit because why?

tickling the israelis lobbys ass some more? damn the yanks are stupid *sigh* still thinking presidents rule their country...
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They only pinned this cause they like Gaia's avatar.

the entire world is closely following the american elections.

should I start a thread that says Iran is closely following the American elections?
would you pin it?
(answer - only if it had Gaia's avatar...)


Now.... which Mod has the hots for Gaia?
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you're an idiot who can't read between the lines.
what? did you forget that our government goes hand in hand with the israeli government?
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Jesus fucking christ. They're just jews! They don't run the whole world or anything ..... oh? They do run the world?

No wonder people care so much about what they think.
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Fuck the illegal, immoral, aparthied state of Israhell.

They got more bombs than Pakistan(Dimona), they can take care of themselves.
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you're an idiot who can't read between the lines.
what? did you forget that our government goes hand in hand with the israeli government?
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Our current government supports the State of Israel.
Obama would not.
McCain would continue to ensure that the jews have every right to a state of their own.
As every race should.
"There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson

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McCain is pro-Israel.
On the other hand, Barak Hussein Obama is pro-Islam.
Do not be fooled by his claims to be a Christian and to be pro-Israel.
He is neither.
Just look at who his pals are and who his strongest supporters are.
An Obama presidency will be a serious threat to the nation and people of Israel


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The American people will decide their president, not your countrymen. It should not be of any consequence to you.
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The American people will decide their president, not your countrymen. It should not be of any consequence to you.
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It should not, but it is.
Do you think the state of Israel would survive without American support?
The jews have a HUGE stake in this little election of ours.
"There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson

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you're an idiot who can't read between the lines.
what? did you forget that our government goes hand in hand with the israeli government?



Our current government supports the State of Israel.
Obama would not.
McCain would continue to ensure that the jews have every right to a state of their own.
As every race should.
 Quoting: 14WORDS


COuldn't we force all jews to move to Israel? That'd be nice.
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The American people will decide their president, not your countrymen. It should not be of any consequence to you.


It should not, but it is.
Do you think the state of Israel would survive without American support?
The jews have a HUGE stake in this little election of ours.
 Quoting: 14WORDS


And I said it should not be of any consequence. We have our own nation to worry about. We shouldn't be shipping out our worthless dollars to prop up Israel.

Will it hurt for Israel to stand on their own? It's like those little babies that have emotional attachment issues with their mother. They just can't let go.
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Shalom to you Gaia, may the peace of Israel wash upon all nations that we may live in the Harmony of G*d
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If only it were true that Obama wasn't a fucking zionist jew ass kissing scumbag...


I can only hope...

ISRAEL INTO THE SEA!!!!!
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propoganda





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