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| I have Questions User ID: 543661  United States11/05/2008 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| OP (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/05/2008 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If someone 'Trespasses" onto my private property, what can I do? Quoting: I have Questions 543661Can they be dealt with using force? how much force? Is it dependant upon each state? (USA Here) Basically if I post "DO NOT TRESPASS" signs and someone I perceive as "enemy who may/may not do harm" trespasses, what can I do? Whats the 'maximum" I can do? example- can I sho0t them? break their face without a weapon? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 478838 United States11/05/2008 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 332283  United Kingdom11/05/2008 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If someone 'Trespasses" onto my private property, what can I do? Quoting: I have Questions 543661Can they be dealt with using force? how much force? Is it dependant upon each state? (USA Here) Basically if I post "DO NOT TRESPASS" signs and someone I perceive as "enemy who may/may not do harm" trespasses, what can I do? Whats the 'maximum" I can do? Well, you are allowed to use reasonable force Try gettin a policeman to explain to you what that actually counts as though... Best thing, kill the cheeky trespassing monkies and burry the body elsewhere. |
| OP (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/05/2008 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | where I live, it is an open carry/gun state. To conceal it, you need to get a permit. Now some towns, though they respect the law, frown upon it- Example: One town allows you to wear a holster and carry your firearm, but next town won't. Everywhere I go, I have to check what town I am in, in order to carry it lol I dont want a concealed permit, because open carry is a deterrent in itself, so I wouldnt have to use the gun to protect my family. If someone 'Trespasses" onto my private property, what can I do? Quoting: OP 543661Can they be dealt with using force? how much force? Is it dependant upon each state? (USA Here) Basically if I post "DO NOT TRESPASS" signs and someone I perceive as "enemy who may/may not do harm" trespasses, what can I do? Whats the 'maximum" I can do? example- can I sho0t them? break their face without a weapon? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/05/2008 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cops wont tell me, they are extremely vague. If someone 'Trespasses" onto my private property, what can I do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 332283Can they be dealt with using force? how much force? Is it dependant upon each state? (USA Here) Basically if I post "DO NOT TRESPASS" signs and someone I perceive as "enemy who may/may not do harm" trespasses, what can I do? Whats the 'maximum" I can do? Well, you are allowed to use reasonable force Try gettin a policeman to explain to you what that actually counts as though... Best thing, kill the cheeky trespassing monkies and burry the body elsewhere. |
| Serendipity nli User ID: 543462 United States11/05/2008 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my state, if you post "No Trespassing" signs on your property, that is an open invite for any law enforcement to search your property...since by law, they have to make sure that no-one is trespassing. And it is only lawful to harm another person if they are inside your house and threatening bodily harm...so if you have a scuffle on your lawn, make sure to drag 'em inside. |
| OP (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/05/2008 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| OP (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/05/2008 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CASTLE DOCTRINE- anyone can explain this better without legal mumbo jumbo? Quoting: OP 543661[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 542720 United States11/05/2008 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much property do you have? Above all, I think it comes down to reason. Are you asking about whether or not you have the excuse to legally shoot somebody if you see them standing on your property? Listen, if you're that hard about the chance to use your gun to kill somebody, then I question your mental state. If I was cutting across your yard to investigate.. say, some object I witnessed falling out of the sky, and you shot at me once or twice.. I'd have you investigated. |
Omega  User ID: 359754 United States11/05/2008 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHAT STATE OP? Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/05/2008 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/05/2008 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much property do you have? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 542720Above all, I think it comes down to reason. Are you asking about whether or not you have the excuse to legally shoot somebody if you see them standing on your property? Listen, if you're that hard about the chance to use your gun to kill somebody, then I question your mental state. If I was cutting across your yard to investigate.. say, some object I witnessed falling out of the sky, and you shot at me once or twice.. I'd have you investigated. Basically if I post "DO NOT TRESPASS" signs and someone I perceive as "enemy who may/may not do harm" trespasses, what can I do? Whats the 'maximum" I can do? Quoting: I have Questions 543661"enemy who may/may not do harm" trespasses, what can I do? Quoting: I have Questions 543661 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 543703 United States11/05/2008 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| OuTheR User ID: 527569 United States11/05/2008 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my state, if you post "No Trespassing" signs on your property, that is an open invite for any law enforcement to search your property...since by law, they have to make sure that no-one is trespassing. Quoting: Serendipity nli 543462And it is only lawful to harm another person if they are inside your house and threatening bodily harm...so if you have a scuffle on your lawn, make sure to drag 'em inside. Here you go this one has more teeth than your ordinary bought at Wal-Mart no trespassing sign... It will be up to you to learn what these laws are and when they apply. NOTICE PRIVATE PROPERTY ANY PERSON ENTERING THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY MUST HOLD CONTRACT WITH OWNER AND/OR TENANT NO TRESPASS INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS, PUBLIC CORPORATE OFFICIALS, THEIR AGENTS, EMPLOYEES OR FRANCHISES THEREOF: This is to put you on NOTICE that the owner and/or tenant of this property requires that all Public/Corporate Officials and their Agents, Employees or franchises thereof abide by provisions of the Supreme Law of the Land: The Constitution of the united states of America Trespasser - One who intentionally and without consent enters another’s property. Criminal Trespass - Entering or remain upon any land, structure, or transportation device when such premises or property are posted in a manner reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders. Acts done under COLOR OF LAW carry the same restrictions as any other criminal trespass. U.S.C. Title 42, Section 1983 BE WARNED::: U.S.C. Title 18, Section 33109 STRICTLY ENFORCED (THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY MAY USE FORCE TO REMOVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS) VIOLATORS MAY BE FINED NOT MORE THAN $10,000.00 OR IMPRISONED NOT MORE THAN TEN YEARS OR BOTH, AND LIFE IF DEATH RESULTS. U.S.C. Title 18, Section 241 & 242 "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." |
| The Starbuckian User ID: 511031 United States11/05/2008 10:58 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I heard a paint ball gun was good. That way if you nail them, it is kinda hard for them to explain how they got nailed if they weren't on your property. The problem with killing someone, it is usually the wrong person. Rock salt was popular in shotgun shells before paint ball. Other thing is if you have a choice, buy insurance, not an alarm system. No one will come or report your alarm system going off. If you rent, get the owner to grant you Power of Attorney, because if there is a problem and someone is trespassing on the land, the owner is allowed to call the sheriff not you. “Queen Sarah, save us from the Black Dog King!” - from the play, Dissocia [link to tasaonline.org.au (secure)] "Never be anyone's French poodle." - Mr Hamilton |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/05/2008 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 526430 United States11/05/2008 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| OuTheR User ID: 527569 United States11/05/2008 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my state, if you post "No Trespassing" signs on your property, that is an open invite for any law enforcement to search your property...since by law, they have to make sure that no-one is trespassing. Quoting: OuTheRAnd it is only lawful to harm another person if they are inside your house and threatening bodily harm...so if you have a scuffle on your lawn, make sure to drag 'em inside. Here you go this one has more teeth than your ordinary bought at Wal-Mart no trespassing sign... It will be up to you to learn what these laws are and when they apply. NOTICE PRIVATE PROPERTY ANY PERSON ENTERING THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY MUST HOLD CONTRACT WITH OWNER AND/OR TENANT NO TRESPASS INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS, PUBLIC CORPORATE OFFICIALS, THEIR AGENTS, EMPLOYEES OR FRANCHISES THEREOF: This is to put you on NOTICE that the owner and/or tenant of this property requires that all Public/Corporate Officials and their Agents, Employees or franchises thereof abide by provisions of the Supreme Law of the Land: The Constitution of the united states of America Trespasser - One who intentionally and without consent enters another’s property. Criminal Trespass - Entering or remain upon any land, structure, or transportation device when such premises or property are posted in a manner reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders. Acts done under COLOR OF LAW carry the same restrictions as any other criminal trespass. U.S.C. Title 42, Section 1983 BE WARNED::: U.S.C. Title 18, Section 33109 STRICTLY ENFORCED (THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY MAY USE FORCE TO REMOVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS) VIOLATORS MAY BE FINED NOT MORE THAN $10,000.00 OR IMPRISONED NOT MORE THAN TEN YEARS OR BOTH, AND LIFE IF DEATH RESULTS. U.S.C. Title 18, Section 241 & 242 BTW OP This is all one sign and if you use it be sure to re size the (NOTICE PRIVATE PROPERTY)part so it can be easily read. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 543661 United States11/06/2008 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| The Starbuckian User ID: 511031 United States11/06/2008 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I put one up on the inside picture window of the farmhouse that keeps getting broken in to. I'm still trying to figure out how to automate the sound recording of a gun cocking a shell in to the chamber as the person stoops to read the notice. “Queen Sarah, save us from the Black Dog King!” - from the play, Dissocia [link to tasaonline.org.au (secure)] "Never be anyone's French poodle." - Mr Hamilton |
| OuTheR User ID: 527569 United States11/07/2008 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember when referencing any form of "Government" and due to the nature of that governing body, being a constructive creation of the legislature, reference to such construction is to be addressed as the "State of the Forum". Never use the generic term "Government" as that term when offered by you sets up the presumption that you recognize said state of the forum as applicable to governing you in the flesh. The corporate state of the forum can only govern legislative created entities, not the natural man or woman. When a man or woman commit an actual trespass on the rights or property of another, all process then moves silently to common law proceedings. (There is no overt appearance that such traverse to common law proceedings takes place, though the court (judge) takes silent judicial notice of such traverse in fact. This traverse to common law process reaches such parties as murders, burglars, rapists and the such, as it's not their public vessel that has committed the crime in fact. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." |
