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911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357364
11/6/2008 7:20 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Debunk away, but regardless...

there still should be HUNDREDS, even THOUSANDS, of CELL PHONE PICTURES, DIGITAL PICTURES and stills from VIDEO CAMS of the second plane approaching and hitting -

WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!


You mean to tell me with hundreds/thousands of people watching from across the water in New Jersey, with cameras and video cams trained on the towers, that there is NOT ONE AMATEUR PHOTO of the plane approaching and hitting?!?!?!


Look around on blogs - photographers have posted HUNDREDS of photos of the AFTERMATH -- the smoke, the towers crumbling, the people running all covered in ash, crushed cars, blown-out windows on buildings.... BUT NOT ONE FRIGGIN' PICTURE OF THAT PLANE APPROACHING!!!!


GEE.... Think maybe there really WASN'T A PLANE?!?!?


A very good point!

Where are all the photos?

damned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 132975

That's a very good point. You always see the same footage.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352507
11/6/2008 7:28 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

More conclusive proof of 9/11 media fraud. Let's hear Omega's excuse to this one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545121
11/6/2008 7:39 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

I call total


bsflag





until someone can provide an alternate version of this clip providing the same exact camera position and width of shot.
ID10T Subscriber
User ID: 410747
11/6/2008 7:40 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

I call total


bsflag





until someone can provide an alternate version of this clip providing the same exact camera position and width of shot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 545121

I second that!!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 497815
11/6/2008 7:43 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

IF YOU WANT ACTUAL FILM FOOTAGE
OF 911.. GO WATCH THIS MOVIE.
UNCUT STRAIGHT UP SHOTS OF THE PLANES
HITTING THE TOWERS.
PART ONE..


www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Thundercheeks
User ID: 539225
11/6/2008 7:46 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

This Is more proof that a major scam took place. I reckon at some stage , someone will come up with irrefutable evidence of fowl play and i reckon it's damn close.
Brakes is gone!! "Weeze fweewheelin!"

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545121
11/6/2008 7:52 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

BAM GOT IT!


bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag





LOOK AT THE LOWER PORTION OF THE FOOTAGE



IT IS MIRRORED ALSO

LOOK AT THE WAVES TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN! MIRRORED


NOW LOOK TO THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN at 2:05 Ground action also mirrored




bsflag bsflag
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 523955
11/6/2008 7:53 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Watch the first video at :33. The small bump in the smoke that the narrator later points out actually skips back as the voice in the background says the plane appears. And the second link given for the footage isn't of the exact cam as shown in the original vid. Close but not quite the right distance and angle. Watch how the smoke rises in a huge fireball that totally changes the smoke stream above. It goes up and out much more than appears to be shown in the first video. Odd stuff. Complete shift in physics!

I haven't trusted the gubment since that day. Never really will again. Pretty sad the things they'll tell us 'for our own protection'.

TDS
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 78392
11/6/2008 7:56 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Debunk away, but regardless...

there still should be HUNDREDS, even THOUSANDS, of CELL PHONE PICTURES, DIGITAL PICTURES and stills from VIDEO CAMS of the second plane approaching and hitting -

WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!


You mean to tell me with hundreds/thousands of people watching from across the water in New Jersey, with cameras and video cams trained on the towers, that there is NOT ONE AMATEUR PHOTO of the plane approaching and hitting?!?!?!


Look around on blogs - photographers have posted HUNDREDS of photos of the AFTERMATH -- the smoke, the towers crumbling, the people running all covered in ash, crushed cars, blown-out windows on buildings.... BUT NOT ONE FRIGGIN' PICTURE OF THAT PLANE APPROACHING!!!!


GEE.... Think maybe there really WASN'T A PLANE?!?!?
 Quoting: its a plane shame 77539


In 2001. I dont even remember phones having cameras or much less video. If they did there wasnt many and it was really new technology so really expensive. I remember getting my first phone in 2001 and it was the old nokia that was huge with the antenna.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545121
11/6/2008 7:57 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Plus the footage is 16x9 ratio

I don't recall seeing any orginal footage in 16x9

That alone proves this is altered footage.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 523955
11/6/2008 7:59 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Oh yeah I'd have to see that exact video from an irrefutable archive showing that that was indeed shown on TV the 11th of Sept, 2001. Until I'm satisfied that it was shown I can only conclude that it was altered later and used as 'proof' against the official story. The time line is more important than ever. The longer this goes without definitive proof the harder it will be to keep the integrity of the time line intact. They know this and count heavily on it.

Hmmm oh my I think I'm missing Dancing with the Stars! Oh wait...tonight is Survivor night! I wouldn't miss that to know the truth! Silly conspiracy kooks...keeping me from my fun and fulfilling life. How dare ye!

TDS
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545121
11/6/2008 8:00 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

In 2001. I dont even remember phones having cameras or much less video. If they did there wasnt many and it was really new technology so really expensive. I remember getting my first phone in 2001 and it was the old nokia that was huge with the antenna.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78392



exactly
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545119
11/6/2008 8:20 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Debunk away, but regardless...

there still should be HUNDREDS, even THOUSANDS, of CELL PHONE PICTURES, DIGITAL PICTURES and stills from VIDEO CAMS of the second plane approaching and hitting -

WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!


You mean to tell me with hundreds/thousands of people watching from across the water in New Jersey, with cameras and video cams trained on the towers, that there is NOT ONE AMATEUR PHOTO of the plane approaching and hitting?!?!?!


Look around on blogs - photographers have posted HUNDREDS of photos of the AFTERMATH -- the smoke, the towers crumbling, the people running all covered in ash, crushed cars, blown-out windows on buildings.... BUT NOT ONE FRIGGIN' PICTURE OF THAT PLANE APPROACHING!!!!


GEE.... Think maybe there really WASN'T A PLANE?!?!?


In 2001. I dont even remember phones having cameras or much less video. If they did there wasnt many and it was really new technology so really expensive. I remember getting my first phone in 2001 and it was the old nokia that was huge with the antenna.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78392

but everyone had camcorders, where is the video of the second plane hitting the towers filmed from the adjacent buildings?
Vincent Vegas
User ID: 545119
11/6/2008 8:31 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

never mind , these guys went all over New York and collected them agent
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 535680
11/6/2008 8:37 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Cost of getting a handful of psycho retards to fly a real plane into a building...cost of tickets plus a few bucks...maybe 10 grand?...Say a few mil, have some money to play with. Now how much do you think it would cost to make holo planes with tech beyond what we know, because you need them, people saw it, do all the spook network junk, wire the buildings to explode with a massive FA explosion which takes thousands of cubic feet of fuel, have all involved keep quiet, do it all clandestinely for those who could possibly see it and wouldn't keep quiet, then do the whole thing with flawless timing....and then have space beams or whatever finish the job...vs a few bucks and the guys who did it are dead and if they get investigated who cares, they did it.....makes total sense. And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously and truthers have become a joke. Go investigate the ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad and your new Vice president if you want to do something other than whack off in fantasy land with the beamers and invisible planers, otherwise enjoy your yout00b science.
 Quoting: SHR


Whos pocket are you in matey.
summers
User ID: 520303
11/6/2008 8:38 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Debunk away, but regardless...

there still should be HUNDREDS, even THOUSANDS, of CELL PHONE PICTURES, DIGITAL PICTURES and stills from VIDEO CAMS of the second plane approaching and hitting -

WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!


You mean to tell me with hundreds/thousands of people watching from across the water in New Jersey, with cameras and video cams trained on the towers, that there is NOT ONE AMATEUR PHOTO of the plane approaching and hitting?!?!?!


Look around on blogs - photographers have posted HUNDREDS of photos of the AFTERMATH -- the smoke, the towers crumbling, the people running all covered in ash, crushed cars, blown-out windows on buildings.... BUT NOT ONE FRIGGIN' PICTURE OF THAT PLANE APPROACHING!!!!


GEE.... Think maybe there really WASN'T A PLANE?!?!?


In 2001. I dont even remember phones having cameras or much less video. If they did there wasnt many and it was really new technology so really expensive. I remember getting my first phone in 2001 and it was the old nokia that was huge with the antenna.

but everyone had camcorders, where is the video of the second plane hitting the towers filmed from the adjacent buildings?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 545119



That is a good point. Completely excluding camera phones; you would assume that at least one person in a city of 8 million would have managed to point a camcorder at the twin towers, and had it pointed there at the time of the second 'impact' - you know considering they were on fire and all.

One might even argue that given the amount of witnesses, there would have been a pretty good chance a still camera would have been taking shots at that moment too.

I would be interested to hear an explanation on that, because the law of averages says that doesn't add up. And in my book if it doesn't add up then well, it doesn't add up.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 473495
11/6/2008 8:58 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Debunk away, but regardless...

there still should be HUNDREDS, even THOUSANDS, of CELL PHONE PICTURES, DIGITAL PICTURES and stills from VIDEO CAMS of the second plane approaching and hitting -

WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!


You mean to tell me with hundreds/thousands of people watching from across the water in New Jersey, with cameras and video cams trained on the towers, that there is NOT ONE AMATEUR PHOTO of the plane approaching and hitting?!?!?!


Look around on blogs - photographers have posted HUNDREDS of photos of the AFTERMATH -- the smoke, the towers crumbling, the people running all covered in ash, crushed cars, blown-out windows on buildings.... BUT NOT ONE FRIGGIN' PICTURE OF THAT PLANE APPROACHING!!!!


GEE.... Think maybe there really WASN'T A PLANE?!?!?
 Quoting: its a plane shame 77539



Yeah, there was all this video equipment just set up and ready, just waiting for it to happen.

Try to think back to the time it happened no one knew what was going on, nobody expected a second plane.

Use some common sense when you realistically think back. Hindsight is 20-20, and try not be such an idiot next time.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 523885
11/6/2008 9:05 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Cost of getting a handful of psycho retards to fly a real plane into a building...cost of tickets plus a few bucks...maybe 10 grand?...Say a few mil, have some money to play with. Now how much do you think it would cost to make holo planes with tech beyond what we know, because you need them, people saw it, do all the spook network junk, wire the buildings to explode with a massive FA explosion which takes thousands of cubic feet of fuel, have all involved keep quiet, do it all clandestinely for those who could possibly see it and wouldn't keep quiet, then do the whole thing with flawless timing....and then have space beams or whatever finish the job...vs a few bucks and the guys who did it are dead and if they get investigated who cares, they did it.....makes total sense. And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously and truthers have become a joke. Go investigate the ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad and your new Vice president if you want to do something other than whack off in fantasy land with the beamers and invisible planers, otherwise enjoy your yout00b science.


Whos pocket are you in matey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535680



Whos pocket are you in matey...

The NWO better Old World Order ... they are controlling our monetary system since jebustime but they are planning their NWO according to their budget...



lolatu
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545203
11/6/2008 9:40 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Debunk away, but regardless...

there still should be HUNDREDS, even THOUSANDS, of CELL PHONE PICTURES, DIGITAL PICTURES and stills from VIDEO CAMS of the second plane approaching and hitting -

WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!


You mean to tell me with hundreds/thousands of people watching from across the water in New Jersey, with cameras and video cams trained on the towers, that there is NOT ONE AMATEUR PHOTO of the plane approaching and hitting?!?!?!


Look around on blogs - photographers have posted HUNDREDS of photos of the AFTERMATH -- the smoke, the towers crumbling, the people running all covered in ash, crushed cars, blown-out windows on buildings.... BUT NOT ONE FRIGGIN' PICTURE OF THAT PLANE APPROACHING!!!!


GEE.... Think maybe there really WASN'T A PLANE?!?!?



Yeah, there was all this video equipment just set up and ready, just waiting for it to happen.

Try to think back to the time it happened no one knew what was going on, nobody expected a second plane.

Use some common sense when you realistically think back. Hindsight is 20-20, and try not be such an idiot next time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473495


LOL..... when ever you debate a point and the other side resorts to name calling well you pretty much know they are done.

Game Set and Match
VictorC
User ID: 511468
11/6/2008 9:47 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Debunk away, but regardless...

there still should be HUNDREDS, even THOUSANDS, of CELL PHONE PICTURES, DIGITAL PICTURES and stills from VIDEO CAMS of the second plane approaching and hitting -

WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!


You mean to tell me with hundreds/thousands of people watching from across the water in New Jersey, with cameras and video cams trained on the towers, that there is NOT ONE AMATEUR PHOTO of the plane approaching and hitting?!?!?!


Look around on blogs - photographers have posted HUNDREDS of photos of the AFTERMATH -- the smoke, the towers crumbling, the people running all covered in ash, crushed cars, blown-out windows on buildings.... BUT NOT ONE FRIGGIN' PICTURE OF THAT PLANE APPROACHING!!!!


GEE.... Think maybe there really WASN'T A PLANE?!?!?


A very good point!

Where are all the photos?

damned

That's a very good point. You always see the same footage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357364


Cel phones with cameras and even video camcorders were not as prevalent 7 years ago.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545203
11/6/2008 10:13 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Debunk away, but regardless...

there still should be HUNDREDS, even THOUSANDS, of CELL PHONE PICTURES, DIGITAL PICTURES and stills from VIDEO CAMS of the second plane approaching and hitting -

WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!


You mean to tell me with hundreds/thousands of people watching from across the water in New Jersey, with cameras and video cams trained on the towers, that there is NOT ONE AMATEUR PHOTO of the plane approaching and hitting?!?!?!


Look around on blogs - photographers have posted HUNDREDS of photos of the AFTERMATH -- the smoke, the towers crumbling, the people running all covered in ash, crushed cars, blown-out windows on buildings.... BUT NOT ONE FRIGGIN' PICTURE OF THAT PLANE APPROACHING!!!!


GEE.... Think maybe there really WASN'T A PLANE?!?!?


A very good point!

Where are all the photos?

damned

That's a very good point. You always see the same footage.


Cel phones with cameras and even video camcorders were not as prevalent 7 years ago.
 Quoting: VictorC


you should do your research before posting.

The 21st century brings easy-to-use digital camcorders
“Smaller is better” was never heard so clearly in the digital electronics industry as it was at the turn of the millennium. The year 2000 brought with it the introduction of a new video format for consumer digital camcorders – DV. The DV format produced increased luminance (brightness), with just over 500 lines of resolution. It also made productive use of an increased bandwidth, from .5 MHz to 1.5 MHz, which produced much brighter colors. And camcorders were increasingly smaller, while producing these increasingly better images.
The year 2000 was a big one for the camcorder industry. Video-related sales grew 15% to $19.2 billion. Actual camcorder sales were up to 5.7 million units, with total sales of $3.3 billion. They must have been doing something right!

More here,
[link to thehistoryof.net]
bbb
User ID: 505305
11/6/2008 10:23 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

What realy matters is it was done, not how. When you discover
the "who" and the why then get back to us.
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rathmussen
User ID: 383866
11/6/2008 10:26 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

You can see a plane coming from above the first tower and hitting it in this widely viewed video. Somebody obviously doctored the footage in the "smoke and mirrors" video. Why make fake smoke with two burning buildings producing all the smoke for you?

There may be lots of evidence to suggest a conspiracy, just not for this particular theory.

bitchfromhell
User ID: 473633
11/6/2008 10:44 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Which station is the youtube video from? I could fake smoke better than that with photoshop.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 513680
11/6/2008 10:45 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 544227


This is fantastic. This is the omnly way that day pieces together. Once you realize there were no planes the rest just falls together.

The next false flag will come after the mandatory digital tv takes effect. It will be much easier to fake things. bump bump
Whee! 8D.qc.ca
User ID: 540901
11/6/2008 11:41 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

AT 01:13

See how we can see the "PLANE" THROUGH or IN FRONT of the building!?
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For those who can't figure out that not everyone in this world is born in areas where the main spoken language is english, my first language is not english.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 544227 (OP)
11/6/2008 11:42 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]


...only to mention a few

elpiper made this vid.
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 545096
11/6/2008 11:45 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

So many of the videos, including from the networks, show overcast skies, including some that look different colors.

The sky was clear blue. Peter Jennings, during the first part of the broadcast was handed some paper. He asked, " Is this the script ? Is this the script I'm supposed to read ? It is ? ".
Then he proceeded the read the same words as all of the other netword broadcasts were reading. there is a video showing this incredible coincidence also, but I have no idea how anyone would find it in the thousands of vids on youtube and google.

I have a good library of 9/11 videos @ [link to www.futurequakelibrary.bravehost.com]
Typical USer
User ID: 541297
11/7/2008 12:07 AM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Here's more TV trickery, September clues

[link to video.google.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 542030
11/7/2008 12:12 AM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

What about that guy from France who just happened to be shooting the NYFD that morning and just happened to get the first plane on film crashing into the first tower?

I always thought that was odd because what were the chances of him being there in perfect view. Also, if anyone can find the footage, (which has vanished from the internet)of the first plane, it looks like it actually slowed down a bitand "wobbled" before it went it. Almost like it was being controlled. The second plane was the exact opposite, full throttle.

So were there planes at the towers or not? If not, then what, how, etc....
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