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911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 499484
11/7/2008 1:45 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

I still remain in my belief that 9/11 was the Alpha Omega event, the powers that be playing the first card of the last hand. The fact that they resorted to such methods, rather than using real planes, and the fact that they carried it out irrespective of the chance that many, many people would see through it.. it was a desperate move..

The political and material aspects of the event are important, but i do believe the spiritual side is equally if not more important.

When you realize that it was one big fucking illusion, it really should send a shiver up your spine. It was a magic trick, and the audience was the whole of humanity. Does anyone really have any idea of how hypnosis and mass mind manipulation on a global scale works? Do you bare in mind the idea that the mass collective consciousness mite have a significant impact on the direction we take, what doors are available to us?

There is only one organization on this planet that would know and understand the metaphysical aspect of such a crime. One that specializes in enslaving people spiritually, through both spirit and temple (mind and body). That is the Vatican.

Hypnosis and mind manipulation of the individual is scary in its potential. You can see things that aren't there, and not see things that are. Mind comes before matter. But when you perform that ritual on everyone.. what kind of potential are we dealing with? Does anyone really comprehend the implications of mass consciousness in the 9/11 story..

The hidden faces and images within the smoke, and other subliminal triggers. Its like a bad disney movie (if you aren't aware of the subliminals in all disney films, now is the time to google!). Its playing the piper on a massive scale.

I only hope that one day everyone will be in possession of the faculities to see through such bad magic tricks, that we will one day wake up from this nonsense.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480547
11/7/2008 2:04 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

GOD BLESS THE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF THE FALLEN VICTIMS.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 471753
11/7/2008 2:07 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

bump hfGOOD ONE .... hf
ATTC
User ID: 476281
11/7/2008 2:38 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

What realy matters is it was done, not how. When you discover
the "who" and the why then get back to us.
 Quoting: bbb


Actually the HOW is very important in revealing the WHO which is why the entire 9/11 Truth movement is controlled by disinfo operatives to get people away from the real truth which is TV Fakery.

Same reason why this site is moderated by the same shills.

TV Fakery is the head of the snake. It exposes the media executives. The media is the most powerful tool to the Military Industrial Complex. If it was exposed, so goes the NWO's psychological control over the citizens.

They must protect it at all cost which is why the cover up of the attack has been far more elaborate than the actual planning.

Everything from sophists shills denying that any conspiracy is possible to those with various theories of LIHOP and MIHOP.

Everything from blaming the Bush regime to Saudi Arabia.

But absolving the media perps at all costs. It took me a full year of research to get to that head of the snake. That's some pretty good obfuscation they have built up
ATTC
User ID: 476281
11/7/2008 2:55 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

You can see a plane coming from above the first tower and hitting it in this widely viewed video. Somebody obviously doctored the footage in the "smoke and mirrors" video. Why make fake smoke with two burning buildings producing all the smoke for you?

There may be lots of evidence to suggest a conspiracy, just not for this particular theory.

 Quoting: rathmussen


Thats the Hezerkhani Ghost Plane on the 2nd and the Super Naudet Brothers on the 1st.

Both of those have been thoroughly debunked as fakes.


Where are all the real witness footage that people claim exist with thousands of witnesses with video cameras?
ATTC
User ID: 476281
11/7/2008 3:03 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

The average person doesn't look up at the sky in a big city unless they are a tourist. In the split second it took for the plane to hit the building, what most people noticed when the first plane hit was the sound and sight of the explosion.

Maybe it wasn't an airliner full of people, but it was a plane. Maybe the planes weren't enough to bring the towers down without the help of secondary explosions, but 2 planes flew into the building. It's just plain rude to all the people who witnessed this horrible event to insist there were no planes.

The alternative you are suggesting is far to elaborate, expensive and impossible, as previous posters have suggested.
 Quoting: rathmussen


The average person isn't looking up in the sky while the first tower is flaming?

Please. Who are you trying to fool?

If all these so called thousands of people had these cameras, they clearly would have had them aimed on the building after the 1st strike as the building was a flaming inferno.

If a 2nd plane was flying at sea level they would have clearly heard it and been trying to film it. Yet nothing but a few so called shots that we have found out that are actually the work of people who specialize in computer/video animation.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 447446
11/7/2008 3:08 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Actually the HOW is very important in revealing the WHO which is why the entire 9/11 Truth movement is controlled by disinfo operatives to get people away from the real truth which is TV Fakery.

Same reason why this site is moderated by the same shills.

TV Fakery is the head of the snake. It exposes the media executives. The media is the most powerful tool to the Military Industrial Complex. If it was exposed, so goes the NWO's psychological control over the citizens.

They must protect it at all cost which is why the cover up of the attack has been far more elaborate than the actual planning.

Everything from sophists shills denying that any conspiracy is possible to those with various theories of LIHOP and MIHOP.

Everything from blaming the Bush regime to Saudi Arabia.

But absolving the media perps at all costs. It took me a full year of research to get to that head of the snake. That's some pretty good obfuscation they have built up
 Quoting: ATTC

Agreed 100%.

And if you want to know who is the head of the snake, go here (and get there fast before they erase this post):

[link to www.truthin7minutes.com]
It's a Plane Shame
User ID: 77539
11/7/2008 3:12 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

If all these so called thousands of people had these cameras, they clearly would have had them aimed on the building after the 1st strike as the building was a flaming inferno.

If a 2nd plane was flying at sea level they would have clearly heard it and been trying to film it. Yet nothing but a few so called shots that we have found out that are actually the work of people who specialize in computer/video animation.
 Quoting: ATTC


Thank you for supporting my points.
It's a Plane Shame
User ID: 77539
11/7/2008 3:14 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

When you realize that it was one big fucking illusion, it really should send a shiver up your spine. It was a magic trick, and the audience was the whole of humanity. Does anyone really have any idea of how hypnosis and mass mind manipulation on a global scale works? Do you bare in mind the idea that the mass collective consciousness mite have a significant impact on the direction we take, what doors are available to us?


Hypnosis and mind manipulation of the individual is scary in its potential. You can see things that aren't there, and not see things that are. Mind comes before matter. But when you perform that ritual on everyone.. what kind of potential are we dealing with? Does anyone really comprehend the implications of mass consciousness in the 9/11 story..

The hidden faces and images within the smoke, and other subliminal triggers. Its like a bad disney movie (if you aren't aware of the subliminals in all disney films, now is the time to google!). Its playing the piper on a massive scale.

I only hope that one day everyone will be in possession of the faculities to see through such bad magic tricks, that we will one day wake up from this nonsense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499484


AMEN, AMEN and AMEN!

YOU GET IT!

VERY WELL STATED!
ATTC
User ID: 476281
11/7/2008 3:25 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Thank you for supporting my points.
 Quoting: It's a Plane Shame 77539


You mean for supporting the truth?

At first I thought TV Fakery was disinfo, but I gave it a chance by looking closer into it.

Not only is there a lack of photographic/video evidence to support the idea that dozens upon dozens or even hundreds or thousands captured the event.

But the whole plane theory is physically impossible. The idea of a plane from it's hollow point, wing tip to wing tip, and tail section to perfectly go through a building like a hot knife through butter is laughable.

Furthermore, when you seriously analyze the footage and see things like the building healing itself in the Hezerkani shot, when you see the overlays of footage, the muli-color overcast skies, the impossibly still camera shots, the hairy planes, the wingless planes, the inconsistent smoke, explosions, plane flight paths, etc.

You realize that unequivocally that the footage is fake.


Now obviously that raises questions like "well what about the people who said they saw planes" Now obviously that's a different story, but the point is not identifying exactly how a magician performed a trick, but pointing out that it was indeed a trick by the impossible nature of it.
rathmussen
User ID: 383866
11/7/2008 4:18 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

The average person doesn't look up at the sky in a big city unless they are a tourist. In the split second it took for the plane to hit the building, what most people noticed when the first plane hit was the sound and sight of the explosion.

Maybe it wasn't an airliner full of people, but it was a plane. Maybe the planes weren't enough to bring the towers down without the help of secondary explosions, but 2 planes flew into the building. It's just plain rude to all the people who witnessed this horrible event to insist there were no planes.

The alternative you are suggesting is far to elaborate, expensive and impossible, as previous posters have suggested.


The average person isn't looking up in the sky while the first tower is flaming?

Please. Who are you trying to fool?

If all these so called thousands of people had these cameras, they clearly would have had them aimed on the building after the 1st strike as the building was a flaming inferno.

If a 2nd plane was flying at sea level they would have clearly heard it and been trying to film it. Yet nothing but a few so called shots that we have found out that are actually the work of people who specialize in computer/video animation.
 Quoting: ATTC


I meant not many people saw the first plane hit, they heard an explosion. Lots of people saw and filmed the second plane hit.
True Believer
User ID: 507408
11/7/2008 4:22 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Can someone please answer me this question.

Why did they put 911 as your emergency number? Did they knew of the eventual supposed terrorist attack before it happen?. I mean think about it, 911, why not 255, or 022, so many endless combinations, they chose exactly 911.
NightWisp Subscriber
User ID: 11585
11/7/2008 4:32 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Those planes..Blue Beam technology.. Just like the hologram reporter.
Kyuubi Subscriber
User ID: 361183
11/7/2008 4:43 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Ok a friend of mine who is sat here with me and just watched this.. hes not in to the 911 thing but he did point out something I missed when i watched this yesterday and again today...

They forgot to add the plane into the frames where the plane passes through the gaps between WTC1 and WTC2..

Not sure if anyones caught this one but just felt the need to post this.. if you all seen it sorry...
The person who takes the banal and ordinary and illuminates it in a new way can terrify. We do not want our ideas changed. We feel threatened by such demands. "I already know the important things." we say. Then Changer comes and throws our old ideas away.
JohnnyCarcinogen Subscriber
User ID: 541702
11/7/2008 4:58 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Can someone please answer me this question.

Why did they put 911 as your emergency number? Did they knew of the eventual supposed terrorist attack before it happen?. I mean think about it, 911, why not 255, or 022, so many endless combinations, they chose exactly 911.
 Quoting: True Believer


211, 411 and 611 were already being used. That left 6 numbers available. They just happened to pick 9.
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Its a Plane Shame
User ID: 77539
11/7/2008 4:59 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

They forgot to add the plane into the frames where the plane passes through the gaps between WTC1 and WTC2..
 Quoting: Kyuubi


It was mentioned a page or two back, good find though.
True Believer
User ID: 507408
11/7/2008 5:05 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Can someone please answer me this question.

Why did they put 911 as your emergency number? Did they knew of the eventual supposed terrorist attack before it happen?. I mean think about it, 911, why not 255, or 022, so many endless combinations, they chose exactly 911.


211, 411 and 611 were already being used. That left 6 numbers available. They just happened to pick 9.
 Quoting: JohnnyCarcinogen



infinite numbers and they just happen to pick 911, just like Bush Sr. just happen to give his revealing NWO speech September 11, 1191. Nothing is coincidential.
ATTC
User ID: 539735
11/7/2008 5:06 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

I meant not many people saw the first plane hit, they heard an explosion. Lots of people saw and filmed the second plane hit.
 Quoting: rathmussen


Where is all this footage of "lots of people" of the 2nd hit?

There are the five live shots of the news and a few more "amateur" pieces which have all turned out to be not by amateurs at all but by people from the fields of video animation
ATTC
User ID: 539735
11/7/2008 5:08 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Ok a friend of mine who is sat here with me and just watched this.. hes not in to the 911 thing but he did point out something I missed when i watched this yesterday and again today...

They forgot to add the plane into the frames where the plane passes through the gaps between WTC1 and WTC2..

Not sure if anyones caught this one but just felt the need to post this.. if you all seen it sorry...
 Quoting: Kyuubi


I don't know about that but there are a whole lot of gaffes that they made like the nose cone of the plane going through the other side in the Fox shot or no plane at all in a NBC shot.

There is also one where it's a video glitch where the screen goes gray removing the towers, but the smoke is still there.

And of course the fact that it's a still video shot which is supposed to be taken from a helicopter is a complete joke.
JohnnyCarcinogen Subscriber
User ID: 541702
11/7/2008 5:14 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

infinite numbers and they just happen to pick 911, just like Bush Sr. just happen to give his revealing NWO speech September 11, 1191. Nothing is coincidential.
 Quoting: True Believer


They didn't just happen to pick 911. They already had 211 for long distance, 411 for information, and 611 for repair service. It only made sense to choose a number ending in 11.
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True Believer
User ID: 507408
11/7/2008 5:18 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

infinite numbers and they just happen to pick 911, just like Bush Sr. just happen to give his revealing NWO speech September 11, 1191. Nothing is coincidential.


They didn't just happen to pick 911. They already had 211 for long distance, 411 for information, and 611 for repair service. It only made sense to choose a number ending in 11.
 Quoting: JohnnyCarcinogen


So now we better watch out for 611, 411, and 211. Maybe they have a 4 phase agenda and we are seeing the first step on fold, i am very suspecious about this since to me nothing just happens.
True Believer
User ID: 507408
11/7/2008 5:19 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

infinite numbers and they just happen to pick 911, just like Bush Sr. just happen to give his revealing NWO speech September 11, 1191. Nothing is coincidential.


They didn't just happen to pick 911. They already had 211 for long distance, 411 for information, and 611 for repair service. It only made sense to choose a number ending in 11.


So now we better watch out for 611, 411, and 211. Maybe they have a 4 phase agenda and we are seeing the first step on fold, i am very suspecious about this since to me nothing just happens.
 Quoting: True Believer


by the way, that is a cool avatar, maybe because i liked the Beverlly Hill Billies.
JohnnyCarcinogen Subscriber
User ID: 541702
11/7/2008 5:21 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

by the way, that is a cool avatar, maybe because i liked the Beverlly Hill Billies.
 Quoting: True Believer


Thanks.

I was thinking the same thing while I was posting... I wonder if anything significant ever happened on the 11th of February, April or June?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357364
11/7/2008 5:27 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

I still remain in my belief that 9/11 was the Alpha Omega event, the powers that be playing the first card of the last hand. The fact that they resorted to such methods, rather than using real planes, and the fact that they carried it out irrespective of the chance that many, many people would see through it.. it was a desperate move..

The political and material aspects of the event are important, but i do believe the spiritual side is equally if not more important.

When you realize that it was one big fucking illusion, it really should send a shiver up your spine. It was a magic trick, and the audience was the whole of humanity. Does anyone really have any idea of how hypnosis and mass mind manipulation on a global scale works? Do you bare in mind the idea that the mass collective consciousness mite have a significant impact on the direction we take, what doors are available to us?

There is only one organization on this planet that would know and understand the metaphysical aspect of such a crime. One that specializes in enslaving people spiritually, through both spirit and temple (mind and body). That is the Vatican.

Hypnosis and mind manipulation of the individual is scary in its potential. You can see things that aren't there, and not see things that are. Mind comes before matter. But when you perform that ritual on everyone.. what kind of potential are we dealing with? Does anyone really comprehend the implications of mass consciousness in the 9/11 story..

The hidden faces and images within the smoke, and other subliminal triggers. Its like a bad disney movie (if you aren't aware of the subliminals in all disney films, now is the time to google!). Its playing the piper on a massive scale.

I only hope that one day everyone will be in possession of the faculities to see through such bad magic tricks, that we will one day wake up from this nonsense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499484

Wow, well said.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 523585
11/7/2008 5:33 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

The hidden faces and images within the smoke, and other subliminal triggers. Its like a bad disney movie (if you aren't aware of the subliminals in all disney films, now is the time to google!). Its playing the piper on a massive scale.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357364


i saw the faces too! a stream of them - those are subliminals for sure.

but how could they doctor the footage so fast?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 539853
11/7/2008 5:38 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Cost of getting a handful of psycho retards to fly a real plane into a building...cost of tickets plus a few bucks...maybe 10 grand?...Say a few mil, have some money to play with. Now how much do you think it would cost to make holo planes with tech beyond what we know, because you need them, people saw it, do all the spook network junk, wire the buildings to explode with a massive FA explosion which takes thousands of cubic feet of fuel, have all involved keep quiet, do it all clandestinely for those who could possibly see it and wouldn't keep quiet, then do the whole thing with flawless timing....and then have space beams or whatever finish the job...vs a few bucks and the guys who did it are dead and if they get investigated who cares, they did it.....makes total sense. And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously and truthers have become a joke. Go investigate the ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad and your new Vice president if you want to do something other than whack off in fantasy land with the beamers and invisible planers, otherwise enjoy your yout00b science.
 Quoting: SHR


Witness the above, a clear, if not concise - example of a biased mind, a clouded mind, a closed mind.

SHR, those who feel the "truthers" are daft should have nothing to fear from them, and no real need for anger.

I suspect there is much more to your anger than mere annoyance with "truthers".

Let me ask you this, SHR - do you think people who dare to question authority - and dare to claim that authority's version of events may not be true - are subversives? Are such people enemies of the State? If so... why?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545848
11/7/2008 5:41 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

This is a pretty good resource for the info absolutly crazy all i had to do is stop and read wow ! [link to www.freedomdomain.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 539853
11/7/2008 5:54 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

Ok a friend of mine who is sat here with me and just watched this.. hes not in to the 911 thing but he did point out something I missed when i watched this yesterday and again today...

They forgot to add the plane into the frames where the plane passes through the gaps between WTC1 and WTC2..

Not sure if anyones caught this one but just felt the need to post this.. if you all seen it sorry...
 Quoting: Kyuubi


You know, I caught that RIGHT away, on first viewing, because I thought that's where they were going with the script... and then it was never brought up.

Good catch.

I figured the first thing, the plane "popping" into reality out at a distance, that could have been due to the focal length of the camera lens... but I also think the transition would be a lot smoother than it was as it pops in.

There is so much wrong with 9-11, and there are so many people like SHR who simply refuse to consider any of it with the least little bit of an open mind... it really saddens me, because I thought America was all about openness, freedom, banding together like brothers... Instead, America is devisive - the term "truthers" for example, is now used in derogatory fashion. A guy like Ron Paul with (their term not mine) "radical" Constitutionally-based ideas is laughed off the debate stage by a crew of giggling politician peers. Sickening.

Oh well, my life goes on unabated. But my view of my country will never ever ever ever be the same. JFK is a seriously dark moment in America, a wound that has never healed. Wounds healed by applying lies to cover them never truly heal. Instead, they fester and someday erupt elsewhere. We currently have many festering sores - JFK, TWA800, Murrah, 9-11, just to name a few. The list never gets shorter either. Old lies are never admitted to, they are simply relegated to the history books as eternal propaganda for the American Way - might makes right. If you can't win by being truthful, well then dammit you obviously just have to lie then.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 538060
11/7/2008 6:48 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

This is a pretty good resource for the info absolutly crazy all i had to do is stop and read wow ! [link to www.freedomdomain.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 545848

A goog conpendium but many of the best Youtube clips that it references have been removed from the internet.
ATTC
User ID: 539735
11/7/2008 7:06 PM
Re: 911 TV Fakery: Smoke and Mirrors MUST SEE!!!!!!Quote

i saw the faces too! a stream of them - those are subliminals for sure.

but how could they doctor the footage so fast?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 523585


Same way they add images into Live TV when you're watching a football game.

Military technology is 50 years ahead of commercial technology. Overlaying the footage is the least of their problems. It's the cover up that had to be extensive

Not to mention that those "Live shots" could have been entirely fake altogether. You should look up 19 Rector St. Watch 9/11 Taboo and see how the NY skyline is completely missing in some of those clips.
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