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| Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2008 9:37 AM | | Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2008 9:53 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
The birth certificate issue is a red herring as US laws say that, where only one parent is a United States citizen, he or she must have lived in the United States for at least five years at some point before the child's birth as a full American citizen, and at least two of these five years must have occurred after the parent's 14th birthday. This is the case with Stanley Ann Dunham, who gave birth to Obama at the age of 18.
The real issue is not where Obama was born, which does not determine whether he is a natural born American, but the fact that he had to have given up his US citizenship when he became Indonesian. This means that he is now a naturalized citizen and therefore ineligible to become President.
The likely reason why Obama has not released his original birth certificate is that it does not exist, i.e., his mother destroyed it before she registered his birth in Hawaii and lied about where he was born in order to ensure that he would be regarded legally as an American citizen.
Alternatively, Stanley Ann Dunham may have had an affair with Frank Marshall Davis, whom Obama mentioned in his book as his political mentor, became pregnant by him and realised that Obama was his son, so that she had a quick marriage of convenience to Obama Sr (whom she divorced not long after) in order to create a respectable father for her son, as Davis was a Communist, wrote pornography and was obviously unfit to bring him up as his son. The reason for the original certificate not being made public could then be simply that it named Davis as the biological father, something about which Obama would be ashamed and not want the world to know. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2008 10:24 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
This non news is older than GOD, let it die already
Worry about what your Dictator Bush is slamming down our throats. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2008 4:45 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
This non news is older than GOD, let it die already
Worry about what your Dictator Bush is slamming down our throats. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550112
He is a fraudster.
[link to www.newsmax.com]
Why do you morons think I am supporting Bush?
Is that the only way your mind works? Moronically? |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2008 4:53 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
Hillary Backers Decry Massive Obama Vote Fraud
Monday, October 27, 2008 10:45 AM
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size
With accusations of voter registration fraud swirling as early voting begins in many states, some Hillary Clinton supporters are saying: “I told you so.”
Already in Iowa, the Obama campaign was breaking the rules, busing in supporters from neighboring states to vote illegally in the first contest in the primaries and physically intimidating Hillary supporters, they say.
Obama’s surprisingly strong win in Iowa, which defied all the polls, propelled his upstart candidacy to front-runner status. But Lynette Long, a Hillary supporter from Bethesda, Md., who has a long and respected academic career, believes Obama’s victory in Iowa and in 12 other caucus states was no miracle. “It was fraud,” she told Newsmax.
Long has spent several months studying the caucus and primary results.
“After studying the procedures and results from all 14 caucus states, interviewing dozens of witnesses, and reviewing hundreds of personal stories, my conclusion is that the Obama campaign willfully and intentionally defrauded the American public by systematically undermining the caucus process,” she said.
In Hawaii, for example, the caucus organizers ran out of ballots, so Obama operatives created more from Post-its and scraps of paper and dumped them into ice cream buckets. “The caucuses ended up with more ballots than participants, a sure sign of voter fraud,” Long said.
In Nevada, Obama supporters upturned a wheelchair-bound woman who wanted to caucus for Hillary, flushed Clinton ballots down the toilets, and told union members they could vote only if their names were on the list of Obama supporters.
In Texas, more than 2,000 Clinton and Edwards supporters filed complaints with the state Democratic Party because of the massive fraud. The party acknowledged that the Obama campaign’s actions “amount to criminal violations” and ordered them to be reported to state and federal law enforcement, but nothing happened.
In caucus after caucus, Obama bused in supporters from out of state, intimidated elderly voters and women, and stole election packets so Hillary supporters couldn’t vote. Thanks to these and other strong-arm tactics, Obama won victories in all but one of the caucuses, even in states such as Maine where Hillary had been leading by double digits in the polls.
Obama’s win in the caucuses, which were smaller events than the primaries and were run by the party, not the states, gave him the margin of victory he needed to win a razor-thin majority in the delegate count going into the Democratic National Convention.
Without these caucus wins, which Long and others claim were based on fraud, Clinton would be the Democrats’ nominee running against John McCain.
Citing a detailed report on the voting results and delegate accounts by accountant Piniel Cronin, “there were only four pledged delegates between Hillary and Obama once you discount caucus fraud,” Long said.
Long has compiled many of these eyewitness reports from the 14 caucus states in a 98-page, single-spaced report and in an interactive Web site: www.caucusanalysis.org.
ACORN involvement
The Obama campaign recently admitted that it paid an affiliate of ACORN, the controversial community organizer that Obama represented in Chicago, more than $832,000 for “voter turnout” work during the primaries. The campaign initially claimed the money had been spent on “staging, sound and light” and “advance work.”
State and federal law enforcement in 11 states are investigating allegations of voter registration fraud against the Obama campaign. ACORN workers repeatedly registered voters in the name of “Mickey Mouse,” and registered the entire starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys twice: once in Nevada, and again in Minnesota.
A group that has worked with ACORN in the past registered a dead goldfish under the name “Princess Nudelman” in Illinois. When reporters informed Beth Nudelman, a Democrat, that her former pet was a registered voter, she said, “This person is a dead fish."
ACORN was known for its “intimidation tactics,” said independent scholar Stanley Kurtz, a senior fellow with the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C., who has researched Obama’s long-standing ties to the group.
Fully 30 percent of 1.3 million new voters ACORN claims to have registered this year are believed to be illegitimate.
Long shared with Newsmax some of the emails and sworn affidavits she received from Hillary supporters who witnessed first-hand the thuggish tactics employed by Obama campaign operatives in Iowa and elsewhere.
Jeff, a precinct captain for Clinton from Davenport, Iowa, thought his caucus was in the bag for his candidate, until just minutes before the voting actually began.
“From 6-6:30 p.m., it appeared as I had expected. Young, old males, females, Hispanics, whites, gay and lesbian friends arriving. Very heavily for Ms. Clinton, a fair amount for Edwards and some stragglers for Obama,” he said.
That makeup corresponded to what he had witnessed from many precinct walks he had made through local neighborhoods.
“My mind began to feel victory for my lady,’ he said. “THEN: at 6:50 p.m., over 75 people of African-American descent came walking in, passed the tables and sat in the Obama section. I knew one of them from my canvassing. I knew another one who did not live in this precinct. And aside from four or five families that live on Hillandale Road, there are no other black people in this unusually white precinct. And one of those black couples were in my Hillary section,” he said.
Thanks to the last-minute influx of unknown Obama supporters, Obama won twice the number of delegates from the precinct as Hillary Clinton.
After it was over, “a very large bus was seen in the parking lot afterwards carrying these folks back” to Illinois, Jeff said.
Obama’s flagrant busing of out-of-state caucus participants from Illinois was so obvious that even Joe Biden — today his running mate, then his rival — pointed it out at the time.
At a campaign stop before the Jan. 3 caucus at the JJ Diner in Des Moines, Biden “said what we were all thinking when he got on stage and said, ‘Hello Iowa!’ and then turned to Barack’s crowd and shouted, ‘and Hello Chicago!’” another precinct captain for Hillary told Long.
Thanks to Illinois campaign workers bused across the border into Iowa, all the precincts in eastern Iowa went for Obama, guaranteeing his win in the caucuses, Long said.
Obama supporters were also bused into northeast Iowa from Omaha, Nebraska, where Obama campaign workers were seen handing out “i-pods and free stuff: T-shirts, clothes, shoes, and free meals” to students and people in homeless shelters,” according to eyewitness reports Long collected.
In Iowa City, red and white chartered buses with Illinois license plates arrived from Illinois packed with boisterous African-American high school students, who came to caucus for Obama in Iowa after being recruited by Obama campaign workers. |
| Anonymous Coward
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This non news is older than GOD, let it die already
Worry about what your Dictator Bush is slamming down our throats. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550112
The only defence the Obamabots have when confronted with such scathing evidence discrediting their idol is to accuse people of being Bush supporters. It demonstrates how silly and moronic they are. I am a life-long Democrat, detested the policies of Bush, but I love the Constitution more than my party. That's why I want this imposter Obama stopped from becoming President, because he cannot be a natural born American, having given up his American citizenship when he became an Indonesian. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2008 4:55 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
2,000 complaints in Texas
In a change in the Democratic National Committee rules for this year’s election season, four states had caucuses and primaries: Washington, Nebraska, Idaho, and Texas. “But Texas is the only one that counted both the caucus result and the primary result,” Long told Newsmax. “The others didn’t count the primary at all, calling it a ‘beauty contest.’”
Because caucuses are more informal, and can last hours, they tend to favor candidates with a strong ground operation or whose supporters use strong-arm tactics to intimidate their rivals.
“There is inherent voter disenfranchisement in the caucuses,” Long said. “Women are less likely to go to caucuses than men, because they don’t like the public nature of the caucus. The elderly are less likely to go to a caucus. People who work shifts can’t go if they work the night shift. And parents with young children can’t go out for four hours on a week night. All these people are traditionally Clinton supporters,” she said.
But Obama’s victories in the caucuses weren’t the result of better organization, Long insists. “It was fraud.”
In state after state, Hillary was leading Obama in the polls right up until the last minute, when Obama won a landslide victory in the caucuses.
The discrepancies between the polls and the caucus results were stunning, Long told Newsmax. The most flagrant example was Minnesota. A Minnesota Public Radio/Humphrey Institute poll just one week before the Feb. 5 caucus gave Hillary a 7-point lead over Obama, 40-33.
But when the Minnesota caucus results were counted, Obama won by a landslide, with 66.39 percent to just 32.23 percent for Hillary, giving him 48 delegates, compared with 24 for Clinton.
“No poll is that far off,” Long told Newsmax.
Similar disparities occurred in 13 of 14 caucus states.
In Colorado and Idaho, Obama had a 2-point edge over Hillary Clinton in the polls, but won by more than 2-1 in the caucuses, sweeping most delegates.
In Kansas, Hillary had a slight edge over Obama in the polls, but Obama won 74 percent of the votes in the caucus and most of the delegates. In nearly every state, he bested the pre-caucus polls by anywhere from 12 percent to more than 30 percent.
This year’s primary rules for the Democrats favored the caucus states over the primary states.
“Caucus states made up only 1.1 million (3 percent) of all Democratic votes, but selected 626 (15 percent) of the delegates,” says Gigi Gaston, a filmmaker who has made a documentary on the caucus fraud.
In Texas alone, she says, there were more than 2,000 complaints from Hillary Clinton and John Edwards supporters of Obama’s strong-arm tactics.
One Hillary supporter, who appears in Gaston’s new film, “We Will Not Be Silenced,” says she received death threats from Obama supporters after they saw her address in an online video she made to document fraud during the Texas caucus. “People called me a whore and a skank,” she said.
John Siegel, El Paso Area Captain for Hillary, said, “Some people saw outright cheating. Other people just saw strong-arm tactics. I saw fraud.”
Another woman, who was not identified in the film, described the sign-in process. “You’re supposed to sign your names on these sheets. The sheets are supposed to be controlled, and passed out — this is kind of how you maintain order. None of that was done. The sheets were just flying all over the place. You could put in your own names. You could add your own sheets or anything. It was just filled with fraud.”
Other witnesses described how Obama supporters went through the crowds at the caucus telling Hillary supporters they could go home because their votes had been counted, when in fact no vote count had yet taken place.
“I couldn’t believe this was happening,” one woman said in the film. “I thought this only happened in Third World countries.”
On election day in Texas, Clinton campaign lawyer Lyn Utrecht issued a news release that the national media widely ignored.
“The campaign legal hot line has been flooded with calls containing specific accusations of irregularities and voter intimidation against the Obama campaign,” she wrote. “This activity is undemocratic, probably illegal, and reflects a wanton disregard for the caucus process.”
She identified 18 separate precincts where Obama operatives had removed voting packets before the Clinton voters could arrive, despite a written warning from the state party not to remove them.
The hot line also received numerous calls during the day that “the Obama campaign has taken over caucus sites and locked the doors, excluding Clinton campaign supporters from participating in the caucus,” she wrote.
“There are numerous instances of Obama supporters filing out precinct convention sign-in sheets during the day and submitting them as completed vote totals at caucus. This is expressly against the rules,” she added.
But no one seemed to care.
Despite Clinton’s three-and-a-half point win in the Texas primary — 50.87 percent to 47.39 percent —Obama beat her in the caucus the same day by 56 to 43.7 percent, giving him a 38-to-29 advantage in delegates.
Linda Hayes investigated the results at the precinct level in three state Senate districts. Under the rules of the Texas Democratic Party, participants in the caucuses had to reside in the precinct where they were caucusing, and had to have voted in the Democratic primary that same day.
When she began to see the results coming in from the precincts that were wildly at variance with the primary results, “I could see that something was wrong,” Hayes said.
Hayes says she found numerous anomalies as she went through the precinct sign-in sheets.
“Many, many, many Obama people either came to the wrong precinct, they did not sign in properly, they did not show ID, or they did not vote that day.” And yet, their votes were counted.
In a letter to Rep. Lois Capps, a Clinton supporter calling himself “Pacific John,” described the fraud he had witnessed during the caucuses.
“On election night in El Paso, it became obvious that the Obama field campaign was designed to steal caucuses. Prior to that, it was impossible for me to imagine the level of attempted fraud and disruption we would see,” he wrote.
“We saw stolen precincts where Obama organizers fabricated counts, made false entries on sign-in sheets, suppressed delegate counts, and suppressed caucus voters. We saw patterns such as missing electronic access code sheets and precinct packets taken before the legal time, like elsewhere in the state. Obama volunteers illegally took convention materials state-wide, with attempts as early as 6:30 am.”
The story of how Obama stole the Democratic Party caucuses — and consequently, the Democratic Party nomination — is important not just because it prefigures potential voter fraud in the Nov. 4 presidential election, which is under way.
It’s important because it fits a pattern that Chicago journalists and a few national and international commentators have noticed in all of the elections Obama has won in his career.
NBC correspondent Martin Fletcher described Obama’s first election victory, for the Illinois state Senate, in a recent commentary that appeared in the London Telegraph. |
| Anonymous Coward
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“Mr. Obama won a seat in the state Senate in 1996 by the unorthodox means of having surrogates successfully challenge the hundreds of nomination signatures that candidates submit. His Democratic rivals, including Alice Palmer, the incumbent, were all disqualified,” Fletcher wrote.
Obama’s election to the U.S. Senate “was even more curious,” conservative columnist Tony Blankley wrote in The Washington Times.
Citing an account that appeared in The Times of London, Blankley described how Obama managed to squeeze out his main Democratic rival, Blair Hull, after divorce papers revealed allegations that Hull had allegedly made a death threat to his former wife.
Then in the general election, “lightning struck again,” Blankley wrote, when his Republican opponent, wealthy businessman Jack Ryan, was forced to withdraw in extremis after his divorce papers revealed details of his sexual life with his former wife.
Just weeks before the election, the Illinois Republican party called on Alan Keyes of Maryland to challenge Obama in the general election. Obama won a landslide victory.
“Mr. Obama’s elections are pregnant with the implications that he has so far gamed every office he has sought by underhanded and sordid means,” Blankley wrote, while “the American media has let these extraordinary events simply pass without significant comment.”
Hillary Clinton supporters, belatedly, now agree. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2008 4:57 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
This non news is older than GOD, let it die already
Worry about what your Dictator Bush is slamming down our throats.
The only defence the Obamabots have when confronted with such scathing evidence discrediting their idol is to accuse people of being Bush supporters. It demonstrates how silly and moronic they are. I am a life-long Democrat, detested the policies of Bush, but I love the Constitution more than my party. That's why I want this imposter Obama stopped from becoming President, because he cannot be a natural born American, having given up his American citizenship when he became an Indonesian. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 542303
That's how a lot of people feel. |
| <October>
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11/13/2008 4:58 PM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
His real name IS Barack Obama. His step-father's name was Soetoro...
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:31 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
Adopted ... lets see his passport{s}.
Barry Soetoro is one of the names he used. It's on the court documents.
Barry Soetoro anagrams ...
A Booty Errors
Taboo Re Sorry
Era Boot Sorry
Years Robot Or
Orator Robs Ye
A Boo Err Story
A Boy Errs Root |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:32 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
Toro= The Bull with horns
we are fucked |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:35 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
His real name IS Barack Obama. His step-father's name was Soetoro...
A person can choose to call themselves whatever they like.
When did he change back to Obama?
Muhammed Ali is still Cassius Clay to a lot of people. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:35 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
His mother named him Cassius. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:43 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
Toro= The Bull with horns
we are fucked Quoting: Anonymous Coward 546967
You would think there would be an anagram with torso but there isn't.
[link to wordsmith.org]
The nearest is torso. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:44 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
A Bro Rye Torso |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:45 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
A Boy Err Torso |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:46 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
Toro= The Bull with horns
we are fucked
You would think there would be an anagram with torso but there isn't.
[ link to wordsmith.org]
The nearest is torso.
Sorry that should have been toro. Isn't bull torro with two t's? |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 6:49 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
A toro is also a spiny rat.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Toro (archaeological site), a Yayoi-period archaeological site in Shizuoka, Shizuoka Prefecture, Japan
Toro (DO), a Denominación de Origen for wine in Spain
Toro (cartoon character), the mascot for Sony Computer Entertainment
Toro (comics), a Marvel comic book character from the 1940s and 1950s
Toro (company), an American manufacturer of lawn mowers and other lawn equipment
Toro (food), a Norwegian food company
Toro (mascot), the mascot for the National Football League's Houston Texans franchise
Toro (magazine), a Canadian men's magazine
Toro (rodent) a spiny rat in the genus Isothrix
Toro (Sakhalin), the Japanese name of a town in Sakhalin, Russia, previously in Karafuto Prefecture, Japan
Toro (Taiwanese singer)
Toró or Rafael Ferreira Francisco, Brazilian football (soccer) player
T?r?, a type of traditional lighting equipment of Japan
Toro, Italy, a town in the province of Campobasso (southern Italy)
Toro, Spain, a town in the Spanish province of Zamora
1685 Toro, an asteroid
Toro Kingdom, a traditional kingdom in modern Uganda
Spanish Fighting Bull, a type of cattle used in bullfighting |
| Lotus Feet 
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11/14/2008 7:02 AM
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459297
Good ones.....
I was sent this by email today from a friend in the US.
Mombasa Imam who confirmed Obama’s birth place arrives in the UK
Posted by africanpress on November 9, 2008
The Imam who came forward to assist in the search of Barack Obama’s identity left Kenya secretly last night, and will arrive in the UK this morning. He will meet with a US contact person who will assist him in recording an asylum statement in the UK after handing over the documents that caused the blessing of Obama when he was born and to confirm the origin of the name Hussein.
The man will join relatives in the UK because his life will be in danger if he were to return to Kenya after removing the documents from the Mosque’s archives and taking them out of the country. The man has been informed about the on-going case filed in the US Supreme Court by attorney Philip Berg challenging Barack Obama’s citizenship.
When the man heard that Jerome Corsi was in Kenya a few months ago, he took a decision to try and meet him, but had to travel back to Mombasa from Nairobi on hearing that Corsi had been bundled and taken to the airport on deportation orders.
The Imam is the grandson of the late Imam who blessed Barack Obama when he was born in Mombasa on the 4th of august 1961.
While in the UK , the Imam and the American contact person will visit Amnesty International before handing himself over to the authorities where he will formally deliver his application for asylum. The contact man has arranged so that they get an official from Amnesty international to accompany them to the home office desk where he will inform them on he dangers that will face him if he were to return to Kenya after delivering the documents on Obama.
This may now bring to close the speculations on Obama’s citizenship and the secrecy on where he was born.
API will dispatch a detailed letter in support of the Imam’s - application for asylum and protection - to the UK Home Office Secretary later today. The letter will be made available on the site here, but minus the names of the Imam.
African Press International
People are not a commodity, without love they become so. Parents are the guardians of the soul, a precious gem born to shine. It is the guardian’s responsibility to ensure that gem is not reshaped, but allowed to BE its natural state. Children are the supreme joy of human life’ "God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save." "Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God."
In my integrity you uphold me and set me in your presence forever. Psa 41:12 "The LORD within her is righteous; he does no wrong. Morning by morning he dispenses his justice, and every new day he does not fail, yet the unrighteous know no shame." Zephaniah 3:4-6 |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 7:53 AM | | Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 7:54 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
I don't know who API are Lotus Feet. I don't have much trust in them.
They don't even name the Imam do they? I would be wary of them. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 7:55 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
I would be wary of anything to do with API until they actually come up with something. Its starting to smell a bit like Sorcha. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 8:31 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
Newsmax... |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 8:35 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459297
I am a BSME. I would say that makes me "Technically Minded"..
And when the governor of Hawaii and several people who work for the state of Hawaii say it is a legal binding document..I believe them. I don't believe some partisan hack "Expert". |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 8:56 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
This is for the technically minded people.
Certificate Of Live Birth = Fraud ...
[ link to atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com]
I am a BSME. I would say that makes me "Technically Minded"..
And when the governor of Hawaii and several people who work for the state of Hawaii say it is a legal binding document..I believe them. I don't believe some partisan hack "Expert".
Whether it's legal or not is totally irrelevant. It merely contains data stored in a computer database. That does NOT mean that this information is completely accurate. Stanley Ann Dunham could have lied to the Hawaii health authorities about the place of birth when she registered her baby in Honolulu (after flying back from Kenya). Perhaps she wanted them to believe that he was American and lied that he was born in Kenya. Perhaps she destroyed the original certificate, so that Obama CAN'T release it because he does bot have it! Perhaps she even lied about Obama's biological father. The point is, the COLB would not reflect any of these possibilities. That's why it's irrelevant as an accurate, historical record.
The real problem surrounding Obama's eligibility is NOT his COLB but his Indonesian citizenship. It meant that he had to have given his American citizenship, so that he must NOW be a naturalized American citizen, which makes him ineligible to be president. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 9:06 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
This is for the technically minded people.
Certificate Of Live Birth = Fraud ...
[ link to atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com]
I am a BSME. I would say that makes me "Technically Minded"..
And when the governor of Hawaii and several people who work for the state of Hawaii say it is a legal binding document..I believe them. I don't believe some partisan hack "Expert".
Whether it's legal or not is totally irrelevant. It merely contains data stored in a computer database. That does NOT mean that this information is completely accurate. Stanley Ann Dunham could have lied to the Hawaii health authorities about the place of birth when she registered her baby in Honolulu (after flying back from Kenya). Perhaps she wanted them to believe that he was American and lied that he was born in Kenya. Perhaps she destroyed the original certificate, so that Obama CAN'T release it because he does bot have it! Perhaps she even lied about Obama's biological father. The point is, the COLB would not reflect any of these possibilities. That's why it's irrelevant as an accurate, historical record.
The real problem surrounding Obama's eligibility is NOT his COLB but his Indonesian citizenship. It meant that he had to have given his American citizenship, so that he must NOW be a naturalized American citizen, which makes him ineligible to be president.
and what I find even more laughable is you actually think that our government would ignore this. 
Believe me...they know all they want to know about Barrack Obama. If he was not eligible to be POTUS he would not have had high level security talks with the CIA and FBI. My guess is he would have never been invited to the White House to meet and discuss transition with Bush. He is eligible all right...you nuts just need to accept that. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/14/2008 9:26 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
Get real. The CIA knows that Obama is not a natural born American but have not told the FBI, etc because they want to use that information to keep Obama ("Renegade") in line by threatening to make the secret public should Obama not like what they want. The CIA blackmail lots of politicians.
Try pulling your head out of your ass before posting dumbass comments. |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/15/2008 2:32 AM | | Anonymous Coward
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11/15/2008 2:33 AM | | Re: BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Barack Hussein Obama's REAL name is Barry Soetoro | Quote |
This is for the technically minded people.
Certificate Of Live Birth = Fraud ...
[ link to atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com]
I am a BSME. I would say that makes me "Technically Minded"..
And when the governor of Hawaii and several people who work for the state of Hawaii say it is a legal binding document..I believe them. I don't believe some partisan hack "Expert".
Whether it's legal or not is totally irrelevant. It merely contains data stored in a computer database. That does NOT mean that this information is completely accurate. Stanley Ann Dunham could have lied to the Hawaii health authorities about the place of birth when she registered her baby in Honolulu (after flying back from Kenya). Perhaps she wanted them to believe that he was American and lied that he was born in Kenya. Perhaps she destroyed the original certificate, so that Obama CAN'T release it because he does bot have it! Perhaps she even lied about Obama's biological father. The point is, the COLB would not reflect any of these possibilities. That's why it's irrelevant as an accurate, historical record.
The real problem surrounding Obama's eligibility is NOT his COLB but his Indonesian citizenship. It meant that he had to have given his American citizenship, so that he must NOW be a naturalized American citizen, which makes him ineligible to be president.
and what I find even more laughable is you actually think that our government would ignore this.
Believe me...they know all they want to know about Barrack Obama. If he was not eligible to be POTUS he would not have had high level security talks with the CIA and FBI. My guess is he would have never been invited to the White House to meet and discuss transition with Bush. He is eligible all right...you nuts just need to accept that.
How do you know they told him anything true? |
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