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Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis

 
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Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
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this is his playbook
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I submit to you they understand the consequences. For many it is simply a practical matter of eliciting votes from a targeted constituency at taxpayer expense; we lose a little, they gain a lot, and the politician keeps his job. But for others, the goal is more malevolent - the failure is deliberate. Don't laugh. This method not only has its proponents, it has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.

The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.


Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:

"Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one. (Courtesy Discover the Networks.org)
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Re: Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
PIN THIS SHIT.

CLOWARD PIVEN STRATEGY : MAKE THE SYSTEM UNSUSTAINABLE SO IT COLLAPSE AND YOU CAN RECREATE IT HOW YOU WANT.

This is exactly what he's doing.

MARCH 2010 DEFICIT : 300 BILLIONS + = 3.6 TRILLION / year in deficit.

I mean, you cannot argue otherwise, THE FACTS ARE THERE.
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PIN PIN PIN
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Oblama's a bloody Clowardly Cloward.

Piven this sucka! abduct
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same way hitler took control after weimar
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Oblama's a bloody Clowardly Cloward.

Piven this sucka! abduct
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Oblong-legged mblackdaddy.
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hiding
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bump
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This is a GLP thread from 2008!!

We were warned and no one listened. From the Op's link...

[link to www.americanthinker.com]


"The burden of illegal immigration on our already overstressed welfare system has been widely documented. Some towns in California have even been taken over by illegal immigrant drug cartels. The disease, crime and overcrowding brought by illegal immigrants places a heavy burden on every segment of society and every level of government, threatening to split this country apart at the seams. In the meantime, radical leftist efforts to grant illegal immigrants citizenship guarantee a huge pool of new democrat voters. With little border control, terrorists can also filter in. "
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This is a GLP thread from 2008!!

We were warned and no one listened. From the Op's link...

[link to www.americanthinker.com]


"The burden of illegal immigration on our already overstressed welfare system has been widely documented. Some towns in California have even been taken over by illegal immigrant drug cartels. The disease, crime and overcrowding brought by illegal immigrants places a heavy burden on every segment of society and every level of government, threatening to split this country apart at the seams. In the meantime, radical leftist efforts to grant illegal immigrants citizenship guarantee a huge pool of new democrat voters. With little border control, terrorists can also filter in. "
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Great find, CowgirlK!!! It's so noisy in my head, snapping all these puzzle pieces together so quickly! This makes wicked sense, thanks for the reminder!
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From Feudalsm to Socialism via Capitalism.
Its Brilliant!
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This is a GLP thread from 2008!!

We were warned and no one listened. From the Op's link...

[link to www.americanthinker.com]


"The burden of illegal immigration on our already overstressed welfare system has been widely documented. Some towns in California have even been taken over by illegal immigrant drug cartels. The disease, crime and overcrowding brought by illegal immigrants places a heavy burden on every segment of society and every level of government, threatening to split this country apart at the seams. In the meantime, radical leftist efforts to grant illegal immigrants citizenship guarantee a huge pool of new democrat voters. With little border control, terrorists can also filter in. "
 Quoting: CowgirlK


jay
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I submit to you they understand the consequences. For many it is simply a practical matter of eliciting votes from a targeted constituency at taxpayer expense; we lose a little, they gain a lot, and the politician keeps his job. But for others, the goal is more malevolent - the failure is deliberate. Don't laugh. This method not only has its proponents, it has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.

The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.


Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:

"Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one. (Courtesy Discover the Networks.org)
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hf

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I'm glad people are starting to realize this. If you can stomach reading some of those leftist theoreticians, it is eye-opening.
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I submit to you they understand the consequences. For many it is simply a practical matter of eliciting votes from a targeted constituency at taxpayer expense; we lose a little, they gain a lot, and the politician keeps his job. But for others, the goal is more malevolent - the failure is deliberate. Don't laugh. This method not only has its proponents, it has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.

The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.


Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:

"Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one. (Courtesy Discover the Networks.org)
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It is Treason, and the punishment is death by public hanging. They do not "adhere to our enemies"... they *are* our enemies, by their own declarations and admissions.

It is Conspiracy - they are each and every one willfully and purposefully destructive of our government and society, and act in conspiracy to create a destruction so great as to crumble our nation and all that depends upon its stability.

Further, they act with the full knowledge that their actions will visit widespread death upon our society, particularly among those most vulnerable - children, the elderly, the handicapped, and those whose lives are dependent upon continuing medical care (diabetics, those on dialysis, etc) - this is conspiracy to commit mass murder.

TREASON
CONSPIRACY
MURDER


That's why they must all be put to the rope, every last one of them, whether they are unemployed or a senior official in government or industry...
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YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period.
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Re: Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
[link to www.americanthinker.com]

this is his playbook
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He's not smart enough to follow anything on his own. He's a prostitute owned and told.
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From Feudalsm to Socialism via Capitalism.
Its Brilliant!
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And from Capitalism back to Feudalism.
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This is a GLP thread from 2008!!

We were warned and no one listened. From the Op's link...

[link to www.americanthinker.com]


"The burden of illegal immigration on our already overstressed welfare system has been widely documented. Some towns in California have even been taken over by illegal immigrant drug cartels. The disease, crime and overcrowding brought by illegal immigrants places a heavy burden on every segment of society and every level of government, threatening to split this country apart at the seams. In the meantime, radical leftist efforts to grant illegal immigrants citizenship guarantee a huge pool of new democrat voters. With little border control, terrorists can also filter in. "
 Quoting: CowgirlK


FYI- Terrorist are here and operating out of the White Hut while Congress barely lifts a finger.
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Anonymous Coward right again!
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The "crisis" at the border has been planned for a long time.

Barry is taking pages right out of the Cloward-Piven play book just as he was taught to do.

Interesting that Cloward and Piven were married and were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work.

And where did Barry graduate from? Columbia University in 1983.

This is a article written in 2005.
[link to www.discoverthenetworks.org]

In their 1966 article, Cloward and Piven charged that the ruling classes used welfare to weaken the poor; that by providing a social safety net, the rich doused the fires of rebellion. Poor people can advance only when "the rest of society is afraid of them," Cloward told The New York Times on September 27, 1970. Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would "the rest of society" accept their demands.

The more I study and research...the clearer the picture becomes.
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PIN THIS SHIT.

CLOWARD PIVEN STRATEGY : MAKE THE SYSTEM UNSUSTAINABLE SO IT COLLAPSE AND YOU CAN RECREATE IT HOW YOU WANT.

This is exactly what he's doing.

MARCH 2010 DEFICIT : 300 BILLIONS + = 3.6 TRILLION / year in deficit.

I mean, you cannot argue otherwise, THE FACTS ARE THERE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 924413


If anyone thinks this is just Obama's doing they need their mental state examined! "Order out of Chaos"? Novus Ordo Seclorum? Establish a "New World Order"? Who's behind this? Goes way back to "Babilon" and the first organized "civilization" whose "rule of law" was the "Code of Hammurabi".
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It's a "Trojan Horse movement", overloading the local cities with illegals to break down the cities on the local level, then they beg the feds for help.
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I'd say that's a nice phrase that would better be expressed as failure to execute the office of president and grounds for impeachment. No strategy. Clloward & Piven are being blamed for the Obama strategy. It's the 21st century. Generals and Cabinet are struggling with misconduct and gross incompetence. But it's actually the anti terror media front causing the shames innit?
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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE SCOTUS KNEW THEN...AND KNOWS NOW EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING.

THEY'RE PRETENDING HE'S A LONE ROGUE WOLF TO HELP HIM AND THOSE BEHIND HIM STAGE THEIR REVOLUTION
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Cloward and Piven is actually the current-day appendage of ancient strategy of divide and conquer. Nothing new here, just a whole lot more people who don't know history and never knew a world pre-internet.
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Re: Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
The "crisis" at the border has been planned for a long time.

Barry is taking pages right out of the Cloward-Piven play book just as he was taught to do.

Interesting that Cloward and Piven were married and were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work.

And where did Barry graduate from? Columbia University in 1983.

This is a article written in 2005.
[link to www.discoverthenetworks.org]

In their 1966 article, Cloward and Piven charged that the ruling classes used welfare to weaken the poor; that by providing a social safety net, the rich doused the fires of rebellion. Poor people can advance only when "the rest of society is afraid of them," Cloward told The New York Times on September 27, 1970. Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would "the rest of society" accept their demands.

The more I study and research...the clearer the picture becomes.
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they might be using this strategy to collapse the United States of America, but if you think Obama or Hillary I need the other Live cards give a rats ass about the underclass I've got a nice bridge you should look at.
I have long feared that my sins would return to visit me, and the cost is more than I can bear. - The Patriot
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The "crisis" at the border has been planned for a long time. TV
The more I study and research...the clearer the picture becomes.
 Quoting: CowgirlK



they might be using this strategy to collapse the United States of America, but if you think Obama or Hillay or any of the other libtards give a rats ass about the underclass I've got a nice bridge you should look at.

sorry for the repost, could not add it on my mobile
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I agree. Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy!

BUT WHY IS GOD
ALLOWING
THIS TO HAPPEN?


I believe that Obama is a Punishment from GOD because America is a unrepentant Idolatrous Nation that worships the false gods of Politics, Wealth and Beauty. The left and the right have made false Idols out of their Political heroes.

Hillary (or something worse) will be the next punishment and this will continue as long as Politics remains a Religion.
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OP nailed it and 6 years ago at that. Impressive.
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I agree. Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy!

BUT WHY IS GOD
ALLOWING
THIS TO HAPPEN?


I believe that Obama is a Punishment from GOD because America is a unrepentant Idolatrous Nation that worships the false gods of Politics, Wealth and Beauty. The left and the right have made false Idols out of their Political heroes.

Hillary (or something worse) will be the next punishment and this will continue as long as Politics remains a Religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211


Could also be that God isn't too happy that over 50 million babies have been killed since Rowe v Wade.

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