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Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis

 
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I agree. Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy!

BUT WHY IS GOD
ALLOWING
THIS TO HAPPEN?


I believe that Obama is a Punishment from GOD because America is a unrepentant Idolatrous Nation that worships the false gods of Politics, Wealth and Beauty. The left and the right have made false Idols out of their Political heroes.

Hillary (or something worse) will be the next punishment and this will continue as long as Politics remains a Religion.
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Could also be that God isn't too happy that over 50 million babies have been killed since Rowe v Wade.
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The FIRST Commandment is not
thou shalt not abort thy babies

The first, the most basic, and the most important Commandment is 'Thou Shalt Not Have Any Gods Before Me'.
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Re: Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
I agree. Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy!

BUT WHY IS GOD
ALLOWING
THIS TO HAPPEN?


I believe that Obama is a Punishment from GOD because America is a unrepentant Idolatrous Nation that worships the false gods of Politics, Wealth and Beauty. The left and the right have made false Idols out of their Political heroes.

Hillary (or something worse) will be the next punishment and this will continue as long as Politics remains a Religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211


Could also be that God isn't too happy that over 50 million babies have been killed since Rowe v Wade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59471070


The FIRST Commandment is not
thou shalt not abort thy babies

The first, the most basic, and the most important Commandment is 'Thou Shalt Not Have Any Gods Before Me'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211


I'd say it's a preponderance of sins that God is punishing us for.
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Re: Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
Cloward and Piven is actually the current-day appendage of ancient strategy of divide and conquer. Nothing new here, just a whole lot more people who don't know history and never knew a world pre-internet.
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Maybe..

You can't fault people for not knowing/understanding why this border crisis is currently being implemented.

Most folks are products of a public school education which is provided by the government. The government teaches their agenda which is all part of a carefully laid out master plan. The media is controlled, so we are not getting any truth from them either.

To quote Adolf Hitler, "He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future." (Including tens of thousands of illegal aliens- I mean unaccompanied minors, aka, dreamers, crossing our borders as we speak)

Honestly, I've heard of Cloward and Piven's strategy but never read any of their teachings prior to today.

Knowledge is power! If people understand what's behind the madness and all the hidden agenda's, maybe there is still a chance to save ourselves and America.
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OP nailed it and 6 years ago at that. Impressive.
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Beck did
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And he and they will not stop

if they are not stopped.
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If the USA is going to survive , Obama has to lawfully be arrested , if congress fails to impeach him.
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OP nailed it and 6 years ago at that. Impressive.
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Beck did
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Breitbart
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If the USA is going to survive , Obama has to lawfully be arrested , if congress fails to impeach him.
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Who and how?

Not gonna happen.
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I agree that God is allowing Obama to be an untouchable curse. But he allows those who are awake to see what's going on with clues here and there.


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I submit to you they understand the consequences. For many it is simply a practical matter of eliciting votes from a targeted constituency at taxpayer expense; we lose a little, they gain a lot, and the politician keeps his job. But for others, the goal is more malevolent - the failure is deliberate. Don't laugh. This method not only has its proponents, it has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.

The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.


Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:

"Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one. (Courtesy Discover the Networks.org)
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It is Treason, and the punishment is death by public hanging. They do not "adhere to our enemies"... they *are* our enemies, by their own declarations and admissions.

It is Conspiracy - they are each and every one willfully and purposefully destructive of our government and society, and act in conspiracy to create a destruction so great as to crumble our nation and all that depends upon its stability.

Further, they act with the full knowledge that their actions will visit widespread death upon our society, particularly among those most vulnerable - children, the elderly, the handicapped, and those whose lives are dependent upon continuing medical care (diabetics, those on dialysis, etc) - this is conspiracy to commit mass murder.

TREASON
CONSPIRACY
MURDER


That's why they must all be put to the rope, every last one of them, whether they are unemployed or a senior official in government or industry...
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I submit to you they understand the consequences. For many it is simply a practical matter of eliciting votes from a targeted constituency at taxpayer expense; we lose a little, they gain a lot, and the politician keeps his job. But for others, the goal is more malevolent - the failure is deliberate. Don't laugh. This method not only has its proponents, it has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.

The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:

The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.


Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:

"Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one. (Courtesy Discover the Networks.org)
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If you are trying to understand how the United States has gotten into the mess that we are in today, you might want to read this too..

Hillary Clinton's 1969 Thesis on Saul Alinsky. (Saul is the guy who wrote the book, "Rules for Radicals")

“THERE IS ONLY THE FIGHT…”
An Analysis of the Alinsky Model
A thesis submitted in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the Bachelor of Arts degree under the Special Honors Program, Wellesley College, Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Hillary D. Rodham
Political Science
2 May, 1969

[link to www.economicpolicyjournal.com]
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[link to www.americanthinker.com]

this is his playbook
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Well, it's Axelrod's now. Screw Cloward, pick on the meat that isn't cold.
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Re: Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
I agree. Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy!

BUT WHY IS GOD
ALLOWING
THIS TO HAPPEN?


I believe that Obama is a Punishment from GOD because America is a unrepentant Idolatrous Nation that worships the false gods of Politics, Wealth and Beauty. The left and the right have made false Idols out of their Political heroes.

Hillary (or something worse) will be the next punishment and this will continue as long as Politics remains a Religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211


Could also be that God isn't too happy that over 50 million babies have been killed since Rowe v Wade.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59471070


The FIRST Commandment is not
thou shalt not abort thy babies

The first, the most basic, and the most important Commandment is 'Thou Shalt Not Have Any Gods Before Me'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211


I'd say it's a preponderance of sins that God is punishing us for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59471070


You people are utterly insane. Yet another reason why our civilization is doomed.
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Cloward and Piven strategy:

A political strategy to overload the American public welfare system to the point it creates a crisis and bankrupts the Nation, leaving the country no choice but to adopt a socialist/communist agenda.
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The Tea Party cannot stop Cloward-Piven, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry or rapid the descent into communism.

The only one who can save America is GOD!

So put down your false Idols, stop listening to Political Messiahs (aka False Idols) and pray. Pray like you've prayed before because Ron Paul cannot save America!
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You people are utterly insane. Yet another reason why our civilization is doomed.
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So you worship the state? And how is that working for you?
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President Obama has called it “an urgent humanitarian situation.” Attorney General Holder said that amnesty is a civil right and has initiated a program to hire an additional 100 attorneys to represent these children in the immigration process.

Richard Cloward has died. His partner and wife, Francis Fox Piven, serves as the honorary chairman of the Democratic Socialists of America. The Cloward-Piven Strategy is alive and well in the care of President Obama who is superintending the chaos on the border.

He took office promising to transform America. This will do it.

[link to www.theblaze.com]
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The Tea Party cannot stop Cloward-Piven, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry or rapid the descent into communism.

The only one who can save America is GOD!

So put down your false Idols, stop listening to Political Messiahs (aka False Idols) and pray. Pray like you've prayed before because Ron Paul cannot save America!
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You people are utterly insane. Yet another reason why our civilization is doomed.
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So you worship the state? And how is that working for you?
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another do
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You people are utterly insane. Yet another reason why our civilization is doomed.
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So you worship the state? And how is that working for you?
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another do
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Its not a plan...

The plan was just foreshadowing the logical conclusion of the USA.

1944 bretton woods is the plan you dumbed down monkeys have been following chasing after monkey chow your whole lives.
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Re: Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
I agree. Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy!

BUT WHY IS GOD
ALLOWING
THIS TO HAPPEN?


I believe that Obama is a Punishment from GOD because America is a unrepentant Idolatrous Nation that worships the false gods of Politics, Wealth and Beauty. The left and the right have made false Idols out of their Political heroes.

Hillary (or something worse) will be the next punishment and this will continue as long as Politics remains a Religion.
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Don't look now, but "God" hasn't been involved in what's going on here.

By "God," whom do you mean exactly? Jesus aka Mithra? Or someone else?
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If the USA is going to survive , Obama has to lawfully be arrested , if congress fails to impeach him.
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Who and how?

Not gonna happen.
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^^^ THIS ^^^

All of our "leaders" are on board with this GLOBALIST agenda. Ocommie's not going anywhere.
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Cloward and Piven is actually the current-day appendage of ancient strategy of divide and conquer. Nothing new here, just a whole lot more people who don't know history and never knew a world pre-internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59480356


Maybe..

You can't fault people for not knowing/understanding why this border crisis is currently being implemented.

Most folks are products of a public school education which is provided by the government. The government teaches their agenda which is all part of a carefully laid out master plan. The media is controlled, so we are not getting any truth from them either.

To quote Adolf Hitler, "He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future." (Including tens of thousands of illegal aliens- I mean unaccompanied minors, aka, dreamers, crossing our borders as we speak)

Honestly, I've heard of Cloward and Piven's strategy but never read any of their teachings prior to today.

Knowledge is power! If people understand what's behind the madness and all the hidden agenda's, maybe there is still a chance to save ourselves and America.
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It's a nice dream, Cowgirl.

This country is fascist, and we are slaves -- as were our grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. We have been LIED TO from day one about this country with powerful propaganda. Elections are rigged with the exception of your local ones (dogcatcher, etc.).

Ocommie won't be impeached. He was put into office to accomplish certain things.
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I agree. Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy!

BUT WHY IS GOD
ALLOWING
THIS TO HAPPEN?


I believe that Obama is a Punishment from GOD because America is a unrepentant Idolatrous Nation that worships the false gods of Politics, Wealth and Beauty. The left and the right have made false Idols out of their Political heroes.

Hillary (or something worse) will be the next punishment and this will continue as long as Politics remains a Religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27337211




"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

The LORD standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people."

Isaiah 3:12-13
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Re: Obama is following the Cloward-Piven strategy, from the 60's, orchestrated crisis
Totally agreed on this...textbook actually...
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That's absolutely correct ...he's being tutored by remnants of the radical Chicago 7 group of the 70's.

At that time they understood America didn't want a radical change so that's why the Cloward-Piven was adopted.

All these indoctrinated radicals are identified early and purposely hired by goverment ABC agencies to further the agenda of making America into a broke-dick institution...

...and the Clintoons are fellow travelers.
Fear God and Dread Nought.
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OP nailed it and 6 years ago at that. Impressive.
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Beck did
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Beck's a shill though and had inside knowledge so doesn't really count.

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