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<<<Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds. >>>

 
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<<<Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds. >>>
Found this passage while reading a book last night. I thought it highly significant in its simplicity and honesty.

Hope you Enjoy!

The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.
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Thread: The Cathars knew....and were exterminated by the Catholic church
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Re: <<<Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds. >>>
WOW! This is what those who step out of the box seek the truth have been coming to know.

A wonderful confirmation!
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bump for truth
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Re: <<<Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds. >>>
Perfect! Can I ask what book you were reading?
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Perfect! Can I ask what book you were reading?
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I found it in Servers of the Divine Plan.
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Perfect! Can I ask what book you were reading?


I found it in Servers of the Divine Plan.
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Very cool! I have been reading that online! Just started with various pages on the newcall website. And skimming over chapters of the pdf file.
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Perfect! Can I ask what book you were reading?


I found it in Servers of the Divine Plan.



Very cool! I have been reading that online! Just started with various pages on the newcall website. And skimming over chapters of the pdf file.
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They are good readings, but Servers of the Divine Plan is by far the best - in my humble opinion. :)
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Re: <<<Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds. >>>
Found this passage while reading a book last night. I thought it highly significant in its simplicity and honesty.

Hope you Enjoy!

The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.

 Quoting: Sickscent
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wink Wise bump!
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"We just walked right through all the stones, all the bottles, and whatever they threw. We have won a major Victory."

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wink Wise bump!
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This is one of my favorite pearls of wisdom...
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Hmmm...

Very interesting times indeed!

I'll have to look this book you quoted from up.


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wink Wise bump!
 Quoting: Psemeni


This is one of my favorite pearls of wisdom...
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Mine, too. I swear to high heaven: It completes me. For me it's become a prayer. I do visit with these pearls of wisdom often...lol, it keeps me in line.

And it was you who first exposed me to this.

Thank you, friend!


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"We just walked right through all the stones, all the bottles, and whatever they threw. We have won a major Victory."

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Hmmm...

Very interesting times indeed!

I'll have to look this book you quoted from up.


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The book is ok. It is an easy read, but very esoteric in nature and simple. Not sure if that is up your alley. I didn't gain anything from it, really, except for finding this gem.
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wink Wise bump!
 Quoting: Psemeni


This is one of my favorite pearls of wisdom...
 Quoting: SickScent



Mine, too. I swear to high heaven: It completes me. For me it's become a prayer. I do visit with these pearls of wisdom often...lol, it keeps me in line.

And it was you who first exposed me to this.

Thank you, friend!


blwkss
 Quoting: Psemeni


thumbs
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Hmmm...

Very interesting times indeed!

I'll have to look this book you quoted from up.


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The book is ok. It is an easy read, but very esoteric in nature and simple. Not sure if that is up your alley. I didn't gain anything from it, really, except for finding this gem.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yeah, I do enjoy the esoteric and found this quote from the OP very 'familiar' to other themes you see in other sacred books. I know I don't do too many threads dealing in this material but I think it's good to review what people were thinking and writing about in the past, if only because they bring about confirmations about what is happening in the present.


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Hmmm...

Very interesting times indeed!

I'll have to look this book you quoted from up.


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The book is ok. It is an easy read, but very esoteric in nature and simple. Not sure if that is up your alley. I didn't gain anything from it, really, except for finding this gem.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yeah, I do enjoy the esoteric and found this quote from the OP very 'familiar' to other themes you see in other sacred books. I know I don't do too many threads dealing in this material but I think it's good to review what people were thinking and writing about in the past, if only because they bring about confirmations about what is happening in the present.


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Then you might like it, Bowman. It is an enjoyable read, but, like I said, it is more of a refresher or reminder rather than teaching material.
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Resonates so well..
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Resonates so well..
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peace
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Re: <<<Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds. >>>
Found this passage while reading a book last night. I thought it highly significant in its simplicity and honesty.

Hope you Enjoy!

The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.

 Quoting: Sickscent


This is Catharism an amalgamation of some Gnosticism and Christianity.
wiki Cathar beliefs:

According to the Cathars, the world had been created by a lesser deity, much like the figure known in classical Gnostic myth as the Demiurge. This creative force was identified with Satan; most forms of classical Gnosticism had not made this explicit link between the Demiurge and Satan. Spirit, the vital essence of humanity, was thus trapped in a polluted world created by a usurper God and ruled by his corrupt minions.
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Not much further of what teh mainstream pagan/atheist/agnostic portion of the largely uninformed internet generation believes.

Could be used as a prelude to satanism in a future NWO religion I guess.
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Resonates so well..
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peace
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Why do other GLP members call you creepy?
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You'll probably just say I am spamming your thread, nonetheless; this is the oath I took in 1998.

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A free and independent association of artisans, including artists, designers, composers, directors, producers, architects, builders, etc., governed by Universal Fundamental Principles and the Scientific Laws of Nature -- and devoted to assisting the Human Race in the reconstruction and harmonization of its planetary and internal environments on all levels of consciousness and matter.

"The policy of this Guild is independent devotion to the cause of Humanity, without professing attachment to any humanitarian, scientific, philosophical, theosophical, religious, or political organization. It is loyal to the ancient and modern teachers of humanitarian sciences, philosophies, and applied arts, the Masters of Wisdom, the Founding Fathers of the New Order of the Ages, and the Movement for humanity, but it does not concern itself with dissensions or differences of individual opinion.

The work it has on hand and the end it keeps in view are too absorbing and too lofty to leave it the time or inclination to take part in side issues. That work and that end is the dissemination of the fundamental teachings of Astro Biological Coenergetics [ie, a Foundation for Omni-Dimensional Science & Spirituality], and the exemplification in practice of those teachings, through a truer realization of the SELF; a profounder conviction of Universal Brotherhood, and a devotion to the designing and reconstruction of the uniworld-solarworld planetary complex and its surrounding space so that all of Humanity can live on, in, and around it in peace, harmony and abundance, absence of oppression, and entitled to individual and cultural life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It holds that the unassailable basis for union among Humanitarian Artisans wherever and however situated, is "similarity of aim, purpose and teaching," and therefore has neither Constitution, By-laws nor Officers, the sole bond between its Associates being that basis. And it aims to disseminate this idea among humanitarian artisans in the furtherance of Unity.

It regards as Humanitarian Artisans all who are engaged in the true service of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, condition or organization, and It welcomes to its association all those who are in accord with its declared purposes and who desire to fit themselves, by study and otherwise, to be the better able to help and teach others.

'The true Humanitarian Artisan belongs to no cult or sect, yet belongs to each and all.'"

"Being in sympathy with the purposes as set forth in its 'Declaration,' I hereby record my desire to be enrolled as an Associate, it being understood that such association calls for no obligation on my part, other than that which I, myself, determine."
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Beautiful!!!!!!!!
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Resonates so well..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301089


peace
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Why do other GLP members call you creepy?
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LOL, I don't know. There are a couple that don't like me for one reason or another. Guess I might have pissed them off at some point. I know there is one guy that thinks I made up the entire Boeing Guy thread, and that I am the Boeing Guy, and he despises me because of that fantasy.

1dunno1

Or, it might be because they are jealous because I am always hanging out with babes... chuckle

:coolone5:
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You'll probably just say I am spamming your thread, nonetheless; this is the oath I took in 1998.

Regards,
12DnAHelix

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The Declaration of the Uniworld Artisans Guild


A free and independent association of artisans, including artists, designers, composers, directors, producers, architects, builders, etc., governed by Universal Fundamental Principles and the Scientific Laws of Nature -- and devoted to assisting the Human Race in the reconstruction and harmonization of its planetary and internal environments on all levels of consciousness and matter.

"The policy of this Guild is independent devotion to the cause of Humanity, without professing attachment to any humanitarian, scientific, philosophical, theosophical, religious, or political organization. It is loyal to the ancient and modern teachers of humanitarian sciences, philosophies, and applied arts, the Masters of Wisdom, the Founding Fathers of the New Order of the Ages, and the Movement for humanity, but it does not concern itself with dissensions or differences of individual opinion.

The work it has on hand and the end it keeps in view are too absorbing and too lofty to leave it the time or inclination to take part in side issues. That work and that end is the dissemination of the fundamental teachings of Astro Biological Coenergetics [ie, a Foundation for Omni-Dimensional Science & Spirituality], and the exemplification in practice of those teachings, through a truer realization of the SELF; a profounder conviction of Universal Brotherhood, and a devotion to the designing and reconstruction of the uniworld-solarworld planetary complex and its surrounding space so that all of Humanity can live on, in, and around it in peace, harmony and abundance, absence of oppression, and entitled to individual and cultural life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It holds that the unassailable basis for union among Humanitarian Artisans wherever and however situated, is "similarity of aim, purpose and teaching," and therefore has neither Constitution, By-laws nor Officers, the sole bond between its Associates being that basis. And it aims to disseminate this idea among humanitarian artisans in the furtherance of Unity.

It regards as Humanitarian Artisans all who are engaged in the true service of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, condition or organization, and It welcomes to its association all those who are in accord with its declared purposes and who desire to fit themselves, by study and otherwise, to be the better able to help and teach others.

'The true Humanitarian Artisan belongs to no cult or sect, yet belongs to each and all.'"

"Being in sympathy with the purposes as set forth in its 'Declaration,' I hereby record my desire to be enrolled as an Associate, it being understood that such association calls for no obligation on my part, other than that which I, myself, determine."
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No, I truly like your stuff 12D. Sorry about saying that about your links. Honestly...
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Or, it might be because they are jealous because I am always hanging out with babes... chuckle

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Snicker! Snicker! Snort! Snort!


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Perfect! Can I ask what book you were reading?


I found it in Servers of the Divine Plan.
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Very cool! I have been reading that online! Just started with various pages on the newcall website. And skimming over chapters of the pdf file.
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Thanks you guys.
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[link to thenewcall.org]
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Then you might like it, Bowman. It is an enjoyable read, but, like I said, it is more of a refresher or reminder rather than teaching material.
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Thanks for the selection. I would offer the opinion that the very nature of the philosophy delimited in that selection would absolutely preclude one from making 'teaching materials' and that the artistry lies in making the definition of their belief system seem as only a 'refresher' or 'reminder', rather than doctrine.

Words chosen for minimum potential conflict, not to be snooty. Generally love your stuff. Thanks.

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