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Doomsday Seed Vault

 
Philly Girl
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11/11/2008 12:53 PM
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WE all know that seeds are vital, why, then does Monsanto create seedless fruits?


If you cant save seed, you have to buy more
 Quoting: Paradigm

Yup - you don't own the seeds - you lease them. It's all about intellectual Property Rights - i.e.-money. The Green movements backing this are only concerned with one form of green - money.
Utvik
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11/11/2008 12:54 PM
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Ya know there's another underground base inside a mountain in North Norway, it's a damn huge place and the whole mountain is hollow.
Paradigm (OP)

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Dumb question but the seeds they sell in the store are bad aren't they? Only reason I ask is because the squash I planted this year produced mainly male flowers few female and rarely at the right times it was like they were confused...sigh.
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There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers

When you go to buy your seeds, look on the package, if it says "hybrid" or "F1" or "GM" dont buy them. If you can, buy your seeds at a nursery and ask specifically for heirloom seeds, or there are lots of heirloom seed companies that sell over the net.
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Philly Girl
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11/11/2008 12:56 PM
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On another note - Gates is also financing scientists that he wants to develop a way for mosquitos to inject vaccines when they bite you.
[link to news.yahoo.com]
TB

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11/11/2008 12:56 PM
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Dumb question but the seeds they sell in the store are bad aren't they? Only reason I ask is because the squash I planted this year produced mainly male flowers few female and rarely at the right times it was like they were confused...sigh.


There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers

When you go to buy your seeds, look on the package, if it says "hybrid" or "F1" or "GM" dont buy them. If you can, buy your seeds at a nursery and ask specifically for heirloom seeds, or there are lots of heirloom seed companies that sell over the net.
 Quoting: Paradigm

ok why won´t she buy them if it says hyrbrid or F1 or GM?
Paradigm (OP)

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11/11/2008 12:57 PM
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hey darlin'!

thanks for bringing up earlier and thanks for posting!

That's some genuinely scary shit.
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Hey sweetheart hf

no prob.

yes, its not reassuring thats for sure, its a good thing we have the knowledge to protect ourselves.
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Paradigm (OP)

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11/11/2008 12:59 PM
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On another note - Gates is also financing scientists that he wants to develop a way for mosquitos to inject vaccines when they bite you.
[link to news.yahoo.com]
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Jesus, it never ends
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Paradigm (OP)

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11/11/2008 01:01 PM
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Dumb question but the seeds they sell in the store are bad aren't they? Only reason I ask is because the squash I planted this year produced mainly male flowers few female and rarely at the right times it was like they were confused...sigh.


There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers

When you go to buy your seeds, look on the package, if it says "hybrid" or "F1" or "GM" dont buy them. If you can, buy your seeds at a nursery and ask specifically for heirloom seeds, or there are lots of heirloom seed companies that sell over the net.

ok why won´t she buy them if it says hyrbrid or F1 or GM?
 Quoting: TB


Well you can, but those are all designations for genetically modified seeds
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NasTraDooMis
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11/11/2008 01:20 PM
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Dumb question but the seeds they sell in the store are bad aren't they? Only reason I ask is because the squash I planted this year produced mainly male flowers few female and rarely at the right times it was like they were confused...sigh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 538829

Just make sure they are not hybrid seeds. You can only plant those once cause i think the seeds won't grow from the plants grown from the hybrid seeds.
NasTraDooMis
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11/11/2008 01:26 PM
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Heres the opening statement from the Prime minster of Norway.



Opening of Svalbard Global Seed Vault
Longyearbyen, Svalbard

Excellencies, ladies, and gentlemen,

We are standing deep in the mountains of Svalbard. For thousands of years, this remote place has been in the grip of permafrost. But now, because of the vision, the courage and the initiative of scientists and politicians, these harsh conditions will now serve humanity - by providing secure storage for the seeds of the world.

Our biological diversity is under threat from the forces of nature; and it is under threat from the actions of man.

Species are being lost through natural disasters, through industrialization of agriculture, through war, through climate change…

Today we have carried the first seeds into this vault. Over the next 24 hours 268 000 seed samples will be placed on the shelves. In the next couple of years the number of samples will be doubled. And finally, we will have more than four million samples, all unique, all secure, here in Svalbard.

The Svalbard archipelago already serves the world as an important research centre where scientists work to understand how the climate is changing.

We need to respond to climate change not only through mitigating its causes, but also adapting to its effects.

Now Svalbard will help us to safeguard our food supply.
The Svalbard global seed vault is our insurance policy – an important resource with the potential to benefit all of humanity.

Now, if seeds are lost, hope is not lost. We will be able to start all over, starting here in Svalbard.

Thank you

[link to www.regjeringen.no]
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2008 01:29 PM
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Thanks guys! Heirloom seeds,now maybe I can get some squash that know what they are doing. hf
NasTraDooMis
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11/11/2008 01:30 PM
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Heres a good CNN vid covering the opening of the vault in Norway.

[link to www.cnn.com]
Focal Point

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11/11/2008 01:33 PM
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yup great post op i have eluded to it on different threads about GM plants and a few other things. It is a good thing you posted in detail.

I hope it will be a useless project but my gut says it isnt
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

-Robert A. Heinlein

Carthago delenda est
NasTraDooMis
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11/11/2008 01:37 PM
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There also other seed vaults too. I think there are 2 in Africa. And a couple years ago one was built right here In Boulder CO. on the CU collage campus that has the capacity for i think 1.2 billion seeds.
NasTraDooMis
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11/11/2008 01:39 PM
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Baker Creek Heirloom Seed Company

[link to rareseeds.com]
Doominator
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11/11/2008 01:46 PM
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Johnny's seeds (Google#1) has nearly every kind and cheap with super-fast delivery!!!!!!
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11/11/2008 01:49 PM
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Dumb question but the seeds they sell in the store are bad aren't they? Only reason I ask is because the squash I planted this year produced mainly male flowers few female and rarely at the right times it was like they were confused...sigh.

Just make sure they are not hybrid seeds. You can only plant those once cause i think the seeds won't grow from the plants grown from the hybrid seeds.
 Quoting: NasTraDooMis 515218



ya'll are all dumb asses talking of things you don't understand...

F1 Hybrids are crosses between two different plants... and the result is a superior offspring, but if you save the seeds they won't be like the parents, but like the Grand Parents!

you buy HEIRLOOM seeds because the seed saved will look like the parents...

That said F1 crosses are in many ways superior to both parents in fruit size and resistence to disease...

buy seeds,,, all you can get your hands on...

everyone...

EVERYONE should have their own personal seed vault...
NasTraDooMis
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11/11/2008 01:52 PM
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Johnny's seeds (Google#1) has nearly every kind and cheap with super-fast delivery!!!!!!
 Quoting: Doominator 162364

[link to www.johnnyseeds.com]
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2008 02:03 PM
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The scariest shit is that there is actually a secret SECOND vault in Norway that nobody knows about. I've been to Svalbard, and I worked onboard a super-exclusive residential cruise ship that was funded by some very wealthy Norwegians...as well as some of the richest, most powerful people in the world. I am bound by law to not discuss the residents, but let's just say that Madonna wasn't allowed to buy an apartment...because the residents need to keep their identities a secret. One family bought a 15 million dollar apartment, and when their name was leaked to the press, they abandoned the apartment, and have never been onboard. The apartment has been empty ever since, and nobody has set foot in it.

There was also a secret society onboard that held meetings that I used to have to attend. For real...

Anyways, one of the families (that I cannot name) onboard owns the second vault. They bought it from the Norwegian government after WW2 (it was being used as a shelter from the Nazis) and they have been filling it with treasures from our civilizations ever since. It's not quite a "doomsday vault", as they're not collecting seeds...but they've been collecting important documents and history from all around the world to save in case something happens.

Svalbard is a beautiful, amazing place...and it's probably one of the best places on earth to have a vault like this.

There is a lot more going on in this world than even us conspiracy theorists can imagine. Reality is much stranger than fiction.
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2008 02:13 PM
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I think it is wonderful that all these elites want to go far north and build a vault while mon santa(monsonto) lets all the other people in the world eat coal.
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11/11/2008 02:21 PM
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There are many underground bases on the Norwegian mainland many times the size of that Svalbard vault.
RonOh
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11/11/2008 02:38 PM
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Read Zecharia Sitchin's books "Earth Chronicles" if you believe that we have only been wiped out once. If not his books at least checkout his website.

[link to www.sitchin.com]





Hey P, they know something we don´t know.


was up TB?

yep, i have know about the article for a long time but thought i would repost.

they definatly know something we dont, thats for sure!


not much, i think and correct me if i am wrong, but my first guess will be they know about a doom scenario that it goning to strike humanity as a whole, why else will they stock seeds, it might just might have to do with 2012, i first read the article in a 2012 conspiracy site but can recall where though.


If i were to guess it would be they are planning to corner the market on GM seeds, and are developing a plant disease that will wipe out non GM plants. Thus control the food supply....thus control the population

scary scenario, i think that is when you´ll see God intervine.


Well.............he hasnt so far and some crazy shit has happened in the past...so if your waiting for a booming voice, i think youll be waiting for a while

imho

yes, i know it has happened in the past, but nothing of this magnitude like you describe, humanity has only being wipeout once and that was during Noah´s flood.
 Quoting: TB
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2008 02:51 PM
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its all classified for shure wtach this lol



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01/31/2010 05:04 PM
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Just to push that theme again, a Doomsday Vault like Svalbard only can be for near cataclysmic style events, so what the fuck will happen ?? Any guesses?
Anonymous Coward
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01/31/2010 05:17 PM
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Just to push that theme again, a Doomsday Vault like Svalbard only can be for near cataclysmic style events, so what the fuck will happen ?? Any guesses?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 874702


People should stop deluding themselves!!

It's for 2012!!!!

Just like Denver Airport & Countless other sites!!

Peace
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