I think my favorite piece of evidence throughout this whole ordeal was the investigation results for the collapse of WTC 7. The answer was something to the effect of this:
"We have solved the mystery of the collapse! The answer is that this happens to be the first building of it's kind to collapse due to fire. Have a nice day."
That is like me trying to prove my innocence in a murder trial like so:
"I now inform the jury that after a team of investigators (hired by me of course), examined the scene, we have concluded that my wife died due strange circumstances. Apparently, she is the first of her kind (human) to commit suicide by stabbing herself 32 times, chopping herself up and throwing herself into river. Have a nice trial."
Anonymous Coward User ID: 551363 11/14/2008 9:43 PM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
the one good thing about obama winning is that instead of pac spamming nothing but anti obama and anti mccain threads all day everyday, he now spams some anti obama/anti nwo threads on occasion. even know the source is a moron, some of those threads have a positive message.
and pac, you're on the NWO Red list now with your anti Obama shit, so you might as well drop the act and hop on the truth wagon.
your pro bush delusional shit aint gunna save ya.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 535854 11/14/2008 9:49 PM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
Permanent Military bases in Iraq, control of opium trade, unending threat from "terrorists", vital oil pipelines, unconstitutional legislation passed at home, money laundering, theft of WTC gold..., etc.
is that enough for you?
...and all the lucrative Blackwater/black op spy mercenaries at $300,000 each...some say as many of those as GIs...and all the Bechtel and Halliburton and unknown arms dealers and the missing billions of dollars and Carlyle Group is raking in the cash ... government with no oversight.
BUSH IS A PUPPET who is very rich, well kept and plays with his government toys.
The entire world was "reset" to a false War on Terror that is and will continue to suck the souls of the lower (getting killed in battle) and middle (financing with taxes) classes, just as it did the Roman Empire.
The above mentioned corporations and those connected with them neither finance nor fight...they as a kleptocracy prosper...called the ruling and upper middle class and those directly tied to said class.
His soul has always been sold ... he just did as he was told and he has no more or no less than he did before. Just 8 years older...back to high-society
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543309
BOOYAH!!
Right on!!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 225509 11/14/2008 10:40 PM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
Though not arguing that Bush administration PNAC members were complicit in those attacks, other social critics such as commentator Manuel Valenzuela and journalist Mark Danner,[37][38][39] investigative journalist John Pilger, in The New Statesman,[40] and former editor of The San Francisco Chronicle Bernard Weiner, in CounterPunch,[41] all argue that PNAC members used the events as the "Pearl Harbor" that they needed––that is, as an "opportunity" to "capitalize on" (in Pilger's words) in order to enact long-desired plans.[42]
"When the Towers came down," William Rivers Pitt writes in his editorial in Truthout.org, "these men saw, at long last, their chance to turn their White Papers into substantive policy."[32]
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
-PNACNWOguy
Quoting: PNACNWOguy 551179
PLANNED to use as the New Pearl Harbor. Karl Rove spoke of it, with intent on a NWO, with their cabal ( a hijacked US ) in control. He was looking for young adults to join PNAC.
The Bush's knew the builders, planners, and architects of the WTC Complex. GWB openly spoke about how the steel was treated, how they were built in sections & why, and most importantly that demolitions were prewired in the construction. He said that all of the buildings in NYC were prewired.
It was All Planned decades in advance.
This in 1972.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 459297 11/15/2008 12:29 AM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
Though not arguing that Bush administration PNAC members were complicit in those attacks, other social critics such as commentator Manuel Valenzuela and journalist Mark Danner,[37][38][39] investigative journalist John Pilger, in The New Statesman,[40] and former editor of The San Francisco Chronicle Bernard Weiner, in CounterPunch,[41] all argue that PNAC members used the events as the "Pearl Harbor" that they needed––that is, as an "opportunity" to "capitalize on" (in Pilger's words) in order to enact long-desired plans.[42]
"When the Towers came down," William Rivers Pitt writes in his editorial in Truthout.org, "these men saw, at long last, their chance to turn their White Papers into substantive policy."[32]
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
-PNACNWOguy
PLANNED to use as the New Pearl Harbor. Karl Rove spoke of it, with intent on a NWO, with their cabal ( a hijacked US ) in control. He was looking for young adults to join PNAC.
The Bush's knew the builders, planners, and architects of the WTC Complex. GWB openly spoke about how the steel was treated, how they were built in sections & why, and most importantly that demolitions were prewired in the construction. He said that all of the buildings in NYC were prewired.
It was All Planned decades in advance.
This in 1972.
Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 551279
Modern explosives must have been used to make it explode into dust. Somebody pushed the button.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 549263 11/15/2008 12:40 AM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
911 was not an inside job. There was nothing gained by the Bush Administration.
The end of the Bush Administration is but a few weeks away and he has not issued martial law, or become world dictator like everyone said. If he could go back and not have 911, Bush would be better off.
What did he achieve but ridicule and risk himself and hundres of co-conspirators of being hung as traitors? For it to have been an inside job, too many people would have known about it and the odds of someone "talking" and exposing the conspiracy would have been great. It was a bold and dangerous plan and would have needed a reward equal to the risk of being caught.
Nothing has been gained. Bush could have had the war in IRAQ without 911 and I really dont see how that war has been any big benefit to anyone in the Bush administration.
The economy is shit, Bush's ratings are in the toilet.
We have a new Marxist Socialistic President. No one could have forseen Obama, so getting him elected wasnt the reason for 911.
If it had been an inside job, Bush would have done it a few more times and been a dictator now instead of going off to Texas to retire.
What was gained by 911?
WITHOUT MOTIVE, THERE IS NOTHING TO CONNECT BUSH TO THE CRIME.
WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE?
Quoting: PACNWguy
You gotta be kidding me. No war = no war profiteering. 911 was the exact thing called for by the "Project For A New American Century" so that they could do what they were BEGGING clinton to do, and that is go to war with Iraq. Bush's team was full of PNAC guys, and guess what happened right after 911, war with Iraq, a country that had NOTHING to do with 911. And look at the money made from that war by groups like the Carlyle Group. And who makes money from the investments the Carlyle Group? Well, ALL of the PNAC guys, AND the Bush family, AND the Cheney family, AND the royalty from Saudi Arabia, where the 911 hijackers came from and also to where we graciously shipped free of charge the Bin Ladens still in America in the days after 911.
What did they have to gain? A LOT OF FUCKING MONEY. They robbed this country (and this world mind you) B-L-I-N-D. And they still do to the tune of trillions.
Oh but were just a nation of whiners right?
Moron.
TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 551279 11/15/2008 1:05 AM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
Modern explosives must have been used to make it explode into dust. Somebody pushed the button.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 459297
Sure. What ever team reached the top first. Ini these drills, the team named 'terrorists' got to the top first, then choppered out seconds before the collapse.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 364476 11/15/2008 2:36 AM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
Modern explosives must have been used to make it explode into dust. Somebody pushed the button.
Sure. What ever team reached the top first. Ini these drills, the team named 'terrorists' got to the top first, then choppered out seconds before the collapse.
Quoting: TEXAS UNCENSORED 551279
Someone pushed the button. The building exploded into dust in seconds.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 459297 11/15/2008 2:58 AM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
The luster of a mythological Saudi hiding in some underground cave in Pakistan has run it's course. The new enemy will be someone we can actually see on the news everyday and he will again soon be the president of Russia.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 464050 11/15/2008 3:07 AM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
911 was not an inside job. There was nothing gained by the Bush Administration.
The end of the Bush Administration is but a few weeks away and he has not issued martial law, or become world dictator like everyone said. If he could go back and not have 911, Bush would be better off.
What did he achieve but ridicule and risk himself and hundres of co-conspirators of being hung as traitors? For it to have been an inside job, too many people would have known about it and the odds of someone "talking" and exposing the conspiracy would have been great. It was a bold and dangerous plan and would have needed a reward equal to the risk of being caught.
Nothing has been gained. Bush could have had the war in IRAQ without 911 and I really dont see how that war has been any big benefit to anyone in the Bush administration.
The economy is shit, Bush's ratings are in the toilet.
We have a new Marxist Socialistic President. No one could have forseen Obama, so getting him elected wasnt the reason for 911.
If it had been an inside job, Bush would have done it a few more times and been a dictator now instead of going off to Texas to retire.
What was gained by 911?
WITHOUT MOTIVE, THERE IS NOTHING TO CONNECT BUSH TO THE CRIME.
WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE?
Quoting: PACNWguy
What was gained? Well fuck I'd think it was pretty obvious by now. Oil and Opium.
Iraq = Illegal war for oil. That's a fact.
Afghanistan = War for control of the opium. Look at how much opium AFghanistan produces every year. It's god knows how many semi's and freighters worth of the stuff, and it's mostly all exported.
How does anyone think that opium gets out of Afghanistan? By horseback? Or camel? Think for a minute.
With a massive military force from numerous nations occupying Afghanistan, OBVIOUSLY they are helping get the opium out. Seriously, that much opium requires a fuck of a lot of shipping, and that much transport is most definitely going to get noticed in a country occupied by many militaries. OBVIOUSLY.
Early 2001 - The Taleban destroyes all the opium crops.
Oct. 2001 - US invasion.
2002 - Present day - The biggest production run of opium anywhere in the history of the world. Thousands of percent more opium produeced and EXPORTED during these years. All under teh watchful eye of numerous militaries.
So what was gained, the OP asks?
Well there's your fucking answer.
Mickeyblue User ID: 330969 11/15/2008 10:31 AM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
The first thing he did when he assumed office was to negate the old rule of being ab le after , I think, Twselve years open to public scrutiny his presxidential record. He effectively took that c lear b ac k tohis father's time in offic e, including Clinton's and through his reign and we wsill not have that to view. He has removed the protections of a number of amendments that the Constitution afforded us.
We have the Patriot Act which was shoved down our throats and which when parts of it were to be sunsetted were not. We have the Military Commissions Act.
We have set aside the Posse Comitatus Act. We have had passed all across this country various acts, bills, legislative rulings which further, piece by piece, destroy protections, restricts freedoms ( we now have special, daily designated free speech zones??)and the list goes on and on.
We are assiduously under attack and from within have done far more damage than any outside enemy could ever pray to visit upon us.
We are and have bled this country dry, indebting future generations and making it tougher and tougher for children to ever even make a complaint for fear of being marked a terrorist.
I could go one for way more and very specific reasons why what was done and what it accomplishes that were and are desired by those who do desire to make America just another country and to get rid of the middle class and bring us under a global canopy thereby ushering in the NWO.
Yes! 'They', those people for whom this has been a long desired goal openly use the terms which state their global objectives and plans for you and I and they are rapdily falling into place.
Bush and cronies are merely subsets to this plan and they have done their jobs as well as the Clinton's and now we will have Obama fulfilling his role but the direction will not alter nor the objectives with perhaps only the devil being in the details.
I am so sorry for you that you cannot see how far we have travelled since 911 away from those things which we cherished and set us apart from any other country ever.
Phennommennonn The Queen Of Mean User ID: 526890 11/15/2008 10:37 AM
Re: IF 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, WHAT WAS THE REWARD FOR THE MASSIVE RISK? WHAT WAS THE MOTIVE? NOTHING WAS GAINED.
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