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Why on Earth is CHARLES MANSON in PRISON????

 
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"Manson will not be eligible for parole again until 2012. "

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"Manson will not be eligible for parole again until 2012. "

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Manson is the true Anti-Christ.

Bank on it!
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that sick fuck was born in 1934 he is an old mutherfucker!
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Manson didn't even touch any of his so called "victims".

Just because some retarded, brainwashed morons killed people in his name is the lamest excuse to persecute the man.

I agree that Manson is crazy, but definitely NOT murderer.



How do you know? Where you there? He led 10 people into a private residence and told them to kill them brutally murdered them, and he is innocent? Even he stood around and watched, while jerking himself off, he's still an accomplice the leader and guilty.


Again, I beg the question: If I told you to murder someone, and you're enough of a dumbass to do it..should I go to prison??

It makes no fucking sense.


If you drive the get away car in a bank robbery your gonna say I didnt rob the bank just drove the car? It makes you a accomplice.

And I guess you missed the interview yrs ago when manson said if he were let out he would stake dead bodies to the heavens.
well actually the dead pigs he would stack to the heavens.
But you get the point he is crazy and dangerous.

And yes if you have someone kill someone else for you, you will go to prison. They should probably just save money and take these ppl out back after court and shoot them in the head hell of of a lot cheaper then prison.
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My dad's friend had a son of 21, who went to lunch with a coworker he'd just met a week before. The coworker said he needed to stop at his house and get a tool form the tool box. So he sat outside while the coworker went in to the house of his ex girlfriend and killed her and five other people int he backyard with a 44 with silencer. He got back in the car and they went to lunch.

Our friend went to jail for 20 years for nothing.

So, OP, feel free to expend all your energy crusading for a scumbag. Meanwhile many innocent people suffer.
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Manson didn't even touch any of his so called "victims".

Just because some retarded, brainwashed morons killed people in his name is the lamest excuse to persecute the man.

I agree that Manson is crazy, but definitely NOT murderer.



How do you know? Where you there? He led 10 people into a private residence and told them to kill them brutally murdered them, and he is innocent? Even he stood around and watched, while jerking himself off, he's still an accomplice the leader and guilty.


Again, I beg the question: If I told you to murder someone, and you're enough of a dumbass to do it..should I go to prison??

It makes no fucking sense.


If you drive the get away car in a bank robbery your gonna say I didnt rob the bank just drove the car? It makes you a accomplice.

And I guess you missed the interview yrs ago when manson said if he were let out he would stake dead bodies to the heavens.
well actually the dead pigs he would stack to the heavens.
But you get the point he is crazy and dangerous.

And yes if you have someone kill someone else for you, you will go to prison. They should probably just save money and take these ppl out back after court and shoot them in the head hell of of a lot cheaper then prison.



My dad's friend had a son of 21, who went to lunch with a coworker he'd just met a week before. The coworker said he needed to stop at his house and get a tool form the tool box. So he sat outside while the coworker went in to the house of his ex girlfriend and killed her and five other people int he backyard with a 44 with silencer. He got back in the car and they went to lunch.

Our friend went to jail for 20 years for nothing.

So, OP, feel free to expend all your energy crusading for a scumbag. Meanwhile many innocent people suffer.
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I'm "crusading" for everyone!

Also, you just admitted that your friend went to jail for 'nothing'. You've made my point!!

If injustice can happen to him, it can happen to anyone.

get it? probably not.
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i think manson is definately crazy. but if he committed the same crimes in 2008 it would be in the news for about a day and a half. he would not be a "celebrity" mass murderer. he'd only get 15 minutes of fame. they didn't even have a big body count. what was it, 5 people?
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I'm pretty sure he "touched" Rosemary and Leno Labianca while he was tieing them up so his acid-crazed minions could go in and kill them. I'm also fairly confident he "touched" Shorty Shea and there's a long line of unsolved murders that follow Charlie's trail so get a life man there are real injustices in this world you could spend your energy on.
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I dont know who said manson never killed anyone. he was charged with the hands on murder of the Labianca couple. he had an accomplice but he has blood all over his hands.
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LaBianca murders
The next night, six Family members — the four from the Tate murders as well as Leslie Van Houten and Steve "Clem" Grogan — rode out at Manson’s instruction. Displeased by the panic of the victims at Cielo Drive, Manson accompanied the six, "to show [them] how to do it."[65][61][73] After a few hours’ ride, in which he considered a number of murders and even attempted one of them,[61][73] Manson gave Kasabian directions that brought the group to 3301 Waverly Drive, home of supermarket executive Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary, a dress shop co-owner.[66][74] Located in the Los Feliz section of Los Angeles, the LaBianca home was next door to a house at which Manson and Family members had attended a party the previous year.[65][75]

According to Atkins and Kasabian, Manson returned, after disappearing up the driveway, to say he had tied up the house's occupants; he then sent Watson up with Krenwinkel and Van Houten.[65][61] In his autobiography, Watson would state that, having gone up alone, Manson returned to take him up to the house with him: when Manson had pointed out a sleeping man through a window, they entered through the unlocked back door.[73] Watson added that, at trial, he "went along with" the women's account, which he figured made him "look that much less responsible."[72]

Rousing the sleeping Leno LaBianca from the couch at gunpoint, as Watson tells it, Manson had Watson bind his hands with a leather thong. After Rosemary LaBianca was brought briefly into the living room from the bedroom, Watson followed Manson’s instructions to cover the couple’s heads with pillowcases, which he bound in place with lamp cords. Manson left, sending Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten into the house with instructions that the couple be killed.[73][65][61]


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Before leaving Spahn Ranch, Watson had complained to Manson of the inadequacy of the previous night's weapons.[61] Now, sending the girls from the kitchen to the bedroom, to which Rosemary LaBianca had been returned, he went to the living room and began stabbing Leno LaBianca with a chrome-plated bayonet, the first thrust going into the man's throat.[73]

Sounds of a scuffle in the bedroom drew Watson there to discover Mrs. LaBianca keeping the girls at bay by swinging the lamp tied to her neck. Subduing her with several stabs of the bayonet, Watson returned to the living room and resumed attacking Leno, who was stabbed twelve times with the bayonet. After Watson had finished, he carved "WAR" on the man's exposed abdomen, as he would state in his autobiography.[73] Atkins, who did not enter the LaBianca house, told a grand jury she believed Krenwinkel had carved the word.[65][76] In a ghost-written newspaper account based on a statement she had made earlier to her attorney,[77] she said Watson carved it.[78]

Returning to the bedroom, where Krenwinkel was stabbing Rosemary LaBianca with a knife from the LaBianca kitchen, Watson — heeding Manson’s instruction to make sure each of the girls played a part — told Van Houten to stab her too.[73] She did, on the exposed buttocks and elsewhere.[75][67][69] At trial, Van Houten would claim, uncertainly,[79] that Rosemary LaBianca was dead by the time she stabbed her. Evidence showed that many of Mrs. LaBianca's forty-one stab wounds had, in fact, been inflicted post-mortem.[80]

While Watson cleaned off the bayonet and showered, Krenwinkel wrote "Rise" and "Death to pigs" on the walls and "Healter [sic] Skelter" on the refrigerator door, all in blood. She gave Leno LaBianca fourteen puncture wounds with an ivory-handled, two-tined carving fork, which she left jutting out of his stomach; she also planted a steak knife in his throat.[73][65][61]

Hoping for a double crime, Manson had gone on to direct Kasabian to drive to the Venice home of an actor acquaintance of hers, another "piggy." Depositing the second trio of Family members at the man's apartment building, he drove back to Spahn Ranch, leaving them and the LaBianca killers to hitchhike home.[65][61] Kasabian thwarted this murder by deliberately knocking on the wrong apartment door and waking a stranger. As the group abandoned the murder plan and left, Susan Atkins defecated in the stairwell.[81]
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He was found guilty of conspiracy to commit murder.
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manson still has a groupie after all these years? Do you wanna assfuck or something?
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Manson is in prison because he is a danger to society.
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If someone had murdered your family they would have been out of prison in 15 to 20 years. The reason manson is still in jail after four decades is because of who feels threatened by him. The zionist movie crowd in Hollywood. Different laws for the zionists and the simple minded cattle called the goyim.

Threaten the zionist then you never get out of jail. Threaten the goyim and you get minimal time in the slammer.

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Manson has said numerous times that he's better off in prison; because he doesn't understand it "out here".
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm thinking too. As horrific as his crimes were considered back then, today they'd be middle of the road. Manson would probably do pretty well out in the real world, assuming some pissed off relative didn't kill him. Imagine the money he could draw in from appearances!

But hell, he seems to like prison, and hasn't made any real effort to get out. I think he played it straight once early on, then gave up on it. Today he sits down for the reviews (which are mandatory, IIRC), and does his crazy routine, then goes back to his cell.

In a way, that's kind of odd, because any real bloodthirsty psychopath would play prison straight, be a good inmate, and walk out as soon as they got the chance, and do it better the next time around.

Regardless, Mansion's in there today because he doesn't seem to want to leave, and anytime he gets a review board that seems lenient (there was one board in the 90s that seemed to be trying to give him a second chance), he freaks out on them, and they deny his "request".

Prison's his home now, and like a lot of long-term inmates, the outside world is probably too scary to deal with. He knows how prison works, most of his "friends" are around him, probably for life as well, so why would he want to leave? To get out and be hounded for the rest of his life?
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I agree that Manson is crazy, but definitely NOT murderer.
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What're you, some fucking 12 year old emo bitch kid???


Do your fucking homework and let the big boys handle the real world duties.
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December 19, 2002

CHARLIE’S ANGELS

TV Charlie’s Angels = 3 girls
Charlie was never there when the girls went after the bad guys, but he gave the orders over a telephone voice box.

Manson’s angels = 3 girls
Charlie was never there when the girls murdered innocent people, but he gave the orders.

TV biography of the Manson family, 12-18-02, During the trial, the three girls who murdered Sharon Tate, the LaBionca’s (another night), Folger and her fiance, etc. thought they were growing wings and that they might have to cut holes in their clothes for the wings to come through.

TV biography 4-3-03, of Candice Bergen, revealed she dated Melcher (Doris Day’s) son who was the hippy who promised to make Manson a rock star. It was Melcher’s house where Sharon Tate, and the others were murdered. Roman Polanski was leasing the house from Melcher at the time. So the intended person to be killed was probably Melcher, because Manson’s dreams of becoming a rock star never materialized. A strange turn of events. Why of all nights would Sharon Tate be there on that horrible night?

Twenty-five year old Folger (of Folger’s Coffee) was heard saying “I’m already dead” as she was receiving 28 stab wounds.
Roman Polanski, Sharon Tate’s husband, directed Rosemary’s Baby in 1968.
The Tate murder took place Aug 9, 1969, she was eight months pregnant with a son.
Seven years after the Tate murder the series Charlie’s Angels aired in 1976 produced by Aaron Spelling.

If you don’t believe in truth you will fall for anything.

Beatles White Album, song, Helter Skelter - 1968.
Pastor Bob said it is possible that the A/C was birthed at the same time that Rosemary’s Baby was made into a movie.
Rosemary’s Baby is a play on names and the Antichrist’s copy for the virgin “Mary’s” Baby who was the true Son of God.
Profanity “Son of a Bitch”; “bastard” are defamation names of Jesus and Mary.

Rosemary’s Baby
Psychological terrorism and supernatural horror have rarely been dramatized as effectively as in this classic 1968 thriller, masterfully adapted and directed by Roman Polanski from the chilling novel by *Ira Levin. Rosemary (Mia Farrow) is a young, trusting housewife in New York whose actor husband (John Cassavetes), unbeknownst to her, has literally made a deal with the devil. In the thrall of a witches' coven headquartered in their apartment building, the young husband arranges to have his wife impregnated by Satan in exchange for success in a Broadway play. Amazon.com.

The Omen 1976 – Damien – 8 years after Rosemary’s Baby.

As of 2002 Charles Manson has been in prison for 33 years.
(Is it possible that if a generation is 40 years does it mean that we have seven more years for the A/C to reach the age of 40.)

Summary
Rosemary’s Baby was Satan’s child, a/k/a A/C. Sharon Tate was eight months pregnant with a son. She was an actor. Charles Manson proclaimed he was Jesus Christ. Helter Skelter means disorderly confusion, Webster’s Dictionary.



Charlie’s Angels: Kelly, Sabrina, and Jill
Charlie’s Angels: Leslie, Susan, Patricia “Katie”

Manson had sent Charles "Tex" Watson,
Susan Atkins,
Patricia Krenwinkel, and
Linda Kasabian to the Tate residence (Linda was granted immunity for information).
Leslie Van Houten was sent to the LaBianca residence (more research on this). I believe Susan Atkins was sent to both residences.

Retorical question: Why would anyone give weapons to three weak minded women?

Van Houten, Atkins and Krenwinkel
return to court
(Associated Press©)



*Ira Levin also wrote the Stepford Wives.



Pyramid within a pyramid of fire.



Charles "Tex" Watson
Is also serving a life sentence for the Tate/LaBianca murders, and is currently housed in Mule Creek State Prison in Northern California. During his time in prison, Watson has converted to Christianity, written several books, married, fathered four children and trained as a minister of religion. His wife, Kristin and their family live close to the prison where she operates a Web site for their ministry called Abounding Love Ministries, Inc.
Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme
Was convicted of attempting to assassinate President Gerald L. Ford in 1975 and sentenced to life in prison.




Wikipedia 8-3-06
Roman Polański (born August 18, 1933) is an Academy Award-winning Polish-French film director and actor. A celebrated Hollywood director of such films as Rosemary's Baby (1968) and Chinatown (1974), he is also known for his tumultuous personal life. In 1969, his wife Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson Family. In 1978, after pleading guilty to a raping a 13-year-old girl, Polanski fled to Europe. Unwilling to return to the United States and face arrest, he has continued to direct films in Europe, including Frantic (1988), the Academy Award-winning The Pianist (2002), and Oliver Twist (2005).
December 4, 2007
[link to www.filmsite.org]
“The incredible irony of the film was that the plot would be similarly played out a year later - Polanski's pregnant actress/wife Sharon Tate would be terrorized and murdered by the strange cult of Charles Manson followers in her Benedict Canyon home.”
[Although it has been widely claimed that the Church of Satan's founder and author of 'The Satanic Bible' Anton LaVey played the uncredited role of the Devil during this impregnation scene, and also served as technical advisor for the film, it's highly unlikely that these claims are true. There has always been an attempt to link LaVey to the film and to the subsequent Manson murders, because one of LaVey's ex-followers (Susan Atkins) turned out to be a member of the Manson Family, who ultimately murdered Polanski's young wife, Sharon Tate.]

December 3, 2007
The Hippies show
1968 was a movement for hippies and they were not well liked by the blacks because they were dirty and did drugs and the black people were just coming up in the world and they didn’t like the bad influence the hippies had over the blacks. Alister Crowley was looked up to in this movement along with the the founder of the Church of Satan, Anton LeVey where it is mentioned Polanski asked to play the devil in Rosemary’s baby.
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The judicial system is flawed and the Manson case points it out real well.

They convicted all the members of the manson family that were involved in the muders saying they were crazed killers and knew what they were doing. They all went to jail and are probably still there today.

Then they convict Manson saying he brainwashed the people under his control and made them commit the murders. You can't have it both ways. Either manson brainwashed his people to commit the murders or those people knew damn well what they were doing and Manson is innocent of the actual murders. He was only guilty of the conspiracy to commit the murders.
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Manson is in prison because he is a danger to society.

If someone had murdered your family they would have been out of prison in 15 to 20 years. The reason manson is still in jail after four decades is because of who feels threatened by him. The zionist movie crowd in Hollywood. Different laws for the zionists and the simple minded cattle called the goyim.

Threaten the zionist then you never get out of jail. Threaten the goyim and you get minimal time in the slammer.

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Manson against Zionism? Now that is the dumbest thing I ever read!!!!!!!!!
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Manson is in prison because he is a danger to society.

If someone had murdered your family they would have been out of prison in 15 to 20 years. The reason manson is still in jail after four decades is because of who feels threatened by him. The zionist movie crowd in Hollywood. Different laws for the zionists and the simple minded cattle called the goyim.

Threaten the zionist then you never get out of jail. Threaten the goyim and you get minimal time in the slammer.

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Manson against Zionism? Now that is the dumbest thing I ever read!!!!!!!!!
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You are freakin crazy. If there ever was a devil incarnate, it was/is him. He should have been executed years ago. He is a defective human, either genetically and/or socially. Whatever the case, he needs to be kept locked up like the animal he is.

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Manson is about as innocent as the Illuminati
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Manson is about as innocent as the Illuminati
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Pretty much the same thing. Manson was simply the 1970's version of Bin Laden. Carefully set up and eased into his ways to destroy that dangerous peace movement that was endangering the CIA's war plans.
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If, by the average poster's replies, Manson SHOULD be in prison, then logic fails to explain to me why all of the Neocons aren't, as well. They murdered FAR more innocent people by merely stating they wished it so...
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are you one of Manson's bastard kids ???

you know he had a bunch and they were sent to foster homes

wonder if they were ever told who their daddy was ???


No, dude, I'm not related to Manson in any way.

I don't like the fucker one bit, but come one -- do you really think someone can be a murderer for not laying a fucking hand/bullet/etc. on someone??


So ordering a hit shouldn't be a crime?
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what makes it any different for an army/military commander then , they order hits all day long,.. on uninvolved countries/peoples for unproven crimes,...? funny how that works eh?... seriously,.. , i agree with he o.p., i may think hes nuts and not like manson , but its in fact true he never killed anyone ,.. george bush is responsible for more death than manson can count,... why not the same for him? or worse?
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So ordering a hit shouldn't be a crime?
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GOOD point!


This really is the main issue.

Manson was very good at manipulating people.

At what point is underhandedly convincing someone to kill a crime?

He underhandedly convinced them he was Jesus
He underhandedly convinced them a race war was about to begin
He underhandedly convinced them that to die was to live, that to kill was to give birth

This is hypnosis, Agreed?

If he DID convince them via hypnosis, then they should be let off. After all, they were hypnotized right?

If you argue that his followers WEREN'T hypnotized and, therefore responsible, then HE should be let off.

Anyone want to grapple with that criminal/philisophical conundrum?
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So ordering a hit shouldn't be a crime?

GOOD point!


This really is the main issue.

Manson was very good at manipulating people.

At what point is underhandedly convincing someone to kill a crime?

He underhandedly convinced them he was Jesus
He underhandedly convinced them a race war was about to begin
He underhandedly convinced them that to die was to live, that to kill was to give birth

This is hypnosis, Agreed?

If he DID convince them via hypnosis, then they should be let off. After all, they were hypnotized right?

If you argue that his followers WEREN'T hypnotized and, therefore responsible, then HE should be let off.

Anyone want to grapple with that criminal/philisophical conundrum?
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ANYONE?
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manson preached about how LSD and/or meditation is a key to spiritual enlightenment...which is the TRUTH...which is why he is in PRISON !!!!

spritual enlightement leads you to understanding reality the atom , the universe...technology grows as spritual enlightment grows until one day you master all the forces of nature...anti gravity DNA manipulation engineering...you end up becoming GODLIKE creating lifeforms with unlimited imagination...colonising planets...just like in the bible...heaven can be created on earth we can become gods if we know all the secret knowledge...

thats why manson is in JAIL

LSD is the key to the future of mankind...
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if things were a little different, this same charles manson would have been a high school teacher somewhere in texas, swinging that fearsome paddle against those unruly buttocks. he'd have the exact same personality but he'd fit right in. his students would say he was crazy, but parents and other teachers would quickly rally to his defense as soon as he was accused of assault.

"it used to mean something to be crazy...nowadays everyone's crazy"
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are you one of Manson's bastard kids ???

you know he had a bunch and they were sent to foster homes

wonder if they were ever told who their daddy was ???
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