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Ian Xel Lungold Decodes Mayan Calendar of Destiny!

 
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The Mayan Calendar Comes North - Full DVD Transcript

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The fifth night was complete joke, debt hasnt failed, we havent met ET, nor can we co create in 4 years. Its a joke.
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this was a conference in 2003 so it was just speculation
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It was all speculation, a good attempt but really a false concept.
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this was a conference in 2003 so it was just speculation
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from 2004 to the end of the calendar was just eddjuated
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this was a conference in 2003 so it was just speculation


from 2004 to the end of the calendar was just eddjuated
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are you saying that the calendar that he explains it is a false concept
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Re: Ian Xel Lungold Decodes Mayan Calendar of Destiny!
the dates are wrong that's all.
The future can't be 100% acurately predicited because it's in constant flux. You can only predict that something will happen so long as the same course of events continue in exactly the same manner.

I believe that we will get something like what Ian had decoded. Only the dates are wrong.

Check back again in 12 months.
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The Gregorian Calendar
The absolute dead center to our civilization is called the Gregorian calendar. The Gregorian calendar was actually put into place about 1582 by a guy named Pope Gregory. 1582 was called the ďYear of Our Lord.Ē Remember those old time movies, with pirates and the crier comes through town and heís crying out this year or that year, year of our lord. This Gregorian calendar was the establishment by the Catholic Church of what day it was. And what the Gregorian calendar is about is this: Our Sun. And around our sun is us: the Earth. We go around the sun, like that. And we go around the sun every 365¼ days. Iíll put some continents on here; this is the planet Earth. We go around the sun every 365¼ days. So, our whole concept of time, and the very center of our consciousness is about these cycles, repetitive cycles of action. In fact if you look up time in the dictionary, time equals motion. Motion of physical things. Okay.
Now the Gregorian calendar, did you study a lot in history or did you go to sleep in history? I went to sleep in history. Since then, I have gained a bigger appreciation. If youíve studied history, you know that the Gregorian calendar did not go down very easily with indigenous people. The Gregorian calendar went outward with the Spanish and with the Catholic bishops. They conquered lands and then told people what day it was. Most civilizations already had their own calendar, and then these guys come along and say, ďNo, this is the day.Ē It didnít go down very easily; they had to kill millions and millions of people to get them to follow this Gregorian Calendar. And what this Gregorian calendar was all about was the physical measurement of our orbit and it turns out that this is a very, very insidious tool. You probably never thought that a calendar could be so evil. But what this calendar has done is it has pinned our civilizationís consciousness to physical evidence only. The absolute dead center of our civilization is focused on only physical evidence; the measurement of physical objects moving through space. Thatís why itís not year of our lord anymore; because there has been a steady erosion of our consciousness of things other than physical. Remember we used to have religious holidays like Christmas and Easter. Have you noticed that a really good Christmas now is a whole lot of stuff sold to a whole lot of people? Same with Easter; itís a buying/marketing frenzy, isnít it? Especially in the cities. There has been a steady erosion of our consciousness of things other than the physical because our calendar has directed our consciousness only in that direction. That is insidious.
[Itís not just the Gregorian calendar, because other solar calendars or lunar calendars are used in other cultures and is based on cycles of the moon; itís still just as physical, isnít it?] Yes, it is. [An Islamic calendar or Jewish calendars, are they just as bad, then?]. They are but not as concentrated. [Why is the Solar Calendar worse?] This particular calendar is worse because now this calendar has been adopted as the commerce calendar.

Itís the calendar upon which all things are bought and sold. Every computer is programmed with this calendar. To a certain degree, all those other calendars were physical calendars. But they have all gone into less and less use, havenít they? Because they had some spiritual aspects to them, and because they did they were shunned, they were thrown away. It was all narrowed down to ďthis is the calendar and this is the day.Ē
Do you know what the word dogma means? Anybody out there know what the word means? It doesnít sound like a very good word does it? The word means ďunquestioned belief.Ē Dogma. It doesnít sound very healthy. Do you know what the biggest dogma is on Earth? What day it is. Nobody even questions it. And if they do, that personís crazy. Yeah, this is a really powerful tool to dominate peopleís consciousness, which is senior to their body. And it is senior to their actions. You see there is cascade of events that goes like this: Consciousness, then light, then thought, then action. Consciousness first, then light, then thought, then the event ó in every case, in all ways. So if you control somebodyís consciousness, youíve got them. Soul, mind and body, youíve got them. So here we are, all of us from birth, including our parents and grandparents, from birth all of us have been brainwashed with this focus. Every one of us, me too, every one of us has been brainwashed.
Welcome to the rinse cycle. First of all, youíve probably heard about other calendars, like we were talking about the Hebrew calendar, the Islamic calendar. All indigenous calendars, the most ancient indigenous calendars had something in common. All of them were 360 days, 360 days long. Well, the archeologists, they understand that (360 days) as a vague solar year; thatís what they called it. And they had the opinion that these ancient people were so primitive that they couldnít figure out how long the year was. So they just approximated it into 360 days. Well, the Maya had a 360-day calendar; we are going to be talking a whole lot about it. They also knew exactly how long it took for the Earth to go around the sun. They had a calendar like this Ė the HAAB calendar, which was a 365¼-day calendar. All these ancient civilizations had 360-day calendars. Maybe they were looking at something other than this motion of Earth around the Sun. Maybe they were paying attention to something other than physical evidence. Itís possible; weíll take a look.
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The Mayan Calendars: Tzolkin and Tun
The Maya actually had two calendars at the very center of their civilization. One was called the Tzolkin ó Tzol, count and Kin, days ó the count of days. The Tzolkin calendar was 260 days long. Those of you who have studied something about the Mayan calendar are probably familiar with this one. This is the astrological calendar of the Maya or the personal calendar of the Maya. Now, who knows about the astrology part of the calendar? Anybody? One person; oh, like the astrological aspects of the Mayan calendar. There is an astrological aspect to this particular calendar. There are 13 intentions on the part of creation. 13 intentions and 20 different aspects of creation that are represented in this calendar. 13 x 20 is 260 Ė so thereís a pattern. As a matter of fact, thatís what this is; Codex, a tool I invented and designed and had produced. What this tool does is take the Gregorian calendar, month, day and year, and transpose it to the Mayan calendar and shows what day it is on the Mayan calendar. Today happens to be 7 Wisdom. 7 is one of the intentions Ė 7 means alignment with divine will or ethics and the aspect of creation is wisdom, today. So according to the Maya and this calendar all of creation is resonating with the energies of divine will and wisdom. And thatís the purpose of the day; thatís the astrological aspect of this 260-day calendar.
And by the way, all this informationóI went to the Maya lands and met with the Maya Shaman and had all of this verified by them. There is the actual, traditional information there. See the Maya Ė this is a personal calendar Ė how personal can a calendar be? Well in the Mayan civilization, your first name was the name of the day that you were born. The Maya had this idea that being as you were spiritual, you had a choice of which day you became physical. You actually had a choice, and why would you pick one day over any other day? Probably because you liked it best. Probably because it agreed with your intention for this life and what you planned to demonstrate as your aspect. So every single person born as a Maya, came in knowing exactly why they were here. And everyone else in this society knew exactly why they were here. Wouldnít that have saved us a little bit of trouble? In fact, if you do some studyóI did do some study of psychology, and if you do some study of inmates, both in prison and in mental institutions, what the whole problem usually boils right down to, is that person was never acknowledged for what they came here for. In a lot of cases they were blamed, ďYou were here to make me miserableĒ; that kind of thing. What they didnít get was acknowledged for why they chose to be here. Mayan civilization ran very successfully for 5000 years with this information. All the way up until the Catholic Church showed up and completely destroyed their civilization. The Maya are still there by the way; there are over 8million Maya who are living in Guatemala and the Yucatan peninsula in Mexico. 8 million; they are not extinct. Not a lot of them follow their ancient traditions anymore, but some do.
Then thereís another Mayan calendar. This calendar was celebrated every single day; every morning there was celebrations. Question: [You just made a statement about 5000 years, what are you basing that on]. It was from the pre-classic and then classic period, and then there was a crash, and went into their post-classic period. It was a blending of the Olmec and the Maya.
The Tun Calendar
Then we have the Tun calendar. This calendar doesnít get talked about very much. It hasnít yet been talked about very much by the archeologists. When they talked about the Mayan Calendar, they were talking about the Aztec, they were talking about the HAAB calendar; itís the one that they understood. This calendar was used for one purpose and one purpose only: taxes. It was the bookkeeping calendar of the Maya. They were an agrarian society and when did they pay their taxes? When the crops came in. So this calendar (HAAB) was used by the city/state for administration purposes. These two calendars (Tzolkin and Tun): this one (Tzolkin) was celebrated every day by every person and the Tun was known as the divine or prophetic calendar of the Maya. Have you heard about the Mayan prophecies and how phenomenally accurate they are and have been? This Tun calendar is where those prophecies were generated. It is a 360-day calendar. We will be talking mostly about this calendar.
Iím going to show you a graphic of how these two work together. This is the 260-day (Tzolkin) calendar and here is the 360-day (Tun). This is the Tzolkin, and that is the Tun and each day on this calendar (Tzolkin) is like a tooth on a gear and there are 260 of them. And right here there are 360 days on the Tun calendar. As this calendar (Tzolkin) turns in this direction (counter-clockwise), it in turn revolves this calendar (Tun in a clockwise rotation). It goes in large cycles. This one (Tzolkin) goes around and around, and this one (Tun) goes around in 360 day increments. Every 52 revolutions of this calendar (Tun), these two teeth match back up.
Then that happened, it was a very special time in the Mayan civilization. To show you how seriously they took all of this, every 52 Tun they would have a celebration; a big celebration wherein the night before they would put out every fire and every spark in their whole entire civilization. Every bit of fire was extinguished. And was re-lit at the temples the next morning and then distributed by the priests to the people and by runners to the villages. And they spread fire throughout their whole civilization once again. All debts were absolved and they started all over. Thatís a big commitment, donít you think? Can you imagine purposefully blacking out all the electricity throughout our entire civilization? And, I mean all the batteries, too, no embers. Completely turning off all the electricity, because of an event on your calendar. Can you imagine that? Not our civilization. Weíre looking at something completely differently, arenít we? [When they put out every single fire was it a 24-hour period? How long a period was it?] It was put out at night and then started the next morning. Every fire was extinguished from like noon on they put out all the fires, so that night there was no fire.
An interesting point, Iíll touch on now and may cover it a little more in-depth later. The Maya divided each day into 13 hours, not 24 hours. 13 hours. And then they divided those 13 hours, notice 13 intentions, into what we would call minutes, and then they divided those 13 minutes into what we would call seconds and then they divided those 13 seconds by 13 and 13 to where every single moment was individually divided by 13 infinitely. That was their understanding. This was very central to the Mayanís understanding.
Note there are no planets or moons going around our sun every 260 days. There are no planets or moons going around every 360 days either. Although I guess it is a coincidence that every planet and every galaxy throughout the whole universe, all of them spin in 360 degrees. Our calendar only has to do with our speck of mud, going around this little speck of light we call the sun in a sea of a hundred billion stars, in this one galaxy out of a hundred billion galaxies in the Universe. So how big is our calendar? Our calendar is completely insignificant. On the other hand, these guys (the Mayans) were looking at something a lot bigger.
Carl Johann Calleman
Now, there is fellow by the name of Carl Johann Calleman. Heís Swedish microbiologist. For 30 years heís worked in laboratories, looking through microscopes at smaller and smaller particles or parts of life. Very exacting, meticulous work. Most of his work had to do with entomology, with pollution and itís effects on the cell and how it causes diseases. Thatís most of his work. He was inspired by a visit down to the Maya lands to start studying the Mayan calendar. He took it up as a hobby to begin with. He started studying it with his clinical the calendar, which is what has been going on so far. All the archeologists have their own ideas and they kind of match up with other peopleís ideas about what it was all about. Mr. Calleman took a different route. I myself am an artist, a sculptor; Iím not an archeologist; didnít even go to school much. Iím an artist. I was approaching the calendar from more of a heart-space, intuitive space, and when I came up with this (Codex), Calleman saw it in Sweden and he sent me this (his book). We eventually met in Cancun and when we put our information together, the product we came up with is this talk. What Calleman found is what these guys were timing. They certainly werenít timing any physical cycles of things in our solar system. What were they timing?
The Structure of the Mayan Calendar
Okay. There is a stone in a place called Coba, Mexico. I hope you can see this. Maybe you can focus in with the camera on this. This is only one side of the stone. Itís 12 feet high out of the ground. I donít know how much it goes into the ground but itís 12 feet high and itís over 7 feet wide. Itís that thick; a big rock! The archeologists found it in the late 1940ís, laying face down in the jungle. When they stood it up, it had all these carvings all over it. All these Mayan dates; and a king stands right here (to the side). All these dates have to do with the Tun calendar. Itís numbers of those cycles; numbers of times those cycles have happened Ė and itís big, big numbers. Weíll be talking about it in a minute. When the stone was first stood up, the archeologist did a rubbing, a charcoal rubbing, and itís a good thing they did because when the stone dried out, from having laid in the jungle for so long, it just... whew, you canít read it now. Madeline and I have been there; we stood right by the stone; I kissed the stone; I really did. You canít read anything on it. In fact, when it was first rubbed, the archeologist didnít know what it meant either. But since then, we have translated the writing and now we can read it; with the aid of computers you can read it just like a newspaper. What that stone says is the structure of the Mayan calendar.
The Mayan calendar is in 9 different levels. (see Figure 2, last pages) Does that look like a pyramid to you? Thatís good. Thatís why all those pyramids down there are all 9 levels. Because those big structures the Maya built out of stone were ceremonial centers to approximate or to show people the progression up this ladder. Or up these steps. It also shows that each one of these levels is sub-divided into 13 individual sections. On the Mayan calendar there are 7 periods of light, within each one these levels, and there are 6 periods of dark. (see Figure 2, Part B) 7 days and 6 nights to each level of creation. Where have we heard that before? Genesis. As a matter of fact, the Mesopotamians and the Sumerians, the first people to write, wrote in cuneiform on clay tablets that each level of creation had 7 days and 6 nights. So the Maya werenít the first people to have this information. There were other civilizations earlier. But the Maya were the most recent ancient civilization. They left the freshest tracks. Which is why Calleman and I have picked up on it.
The days, each day is a period of enlightenment or increase in consciousness and each night is a period of applying that consciousness. Youíve done that all your life; youíve learned some thing new and then went out and applied it, havenít you? You get all excited about something youíve just learned and then you run out and you do it. Interesting, during that application, sometimes you learn what you didnít already know; these are called mistakes. When you go out and you get all excited and learn about it. Remember guys when you first learned about hammer, wood and nails? Hmm...how to put things together and youíre just pounding boards together. Ouch! Now you know something more than you did before. Weíll see that some times during this application stage there are things that look like mistakes, but itís all part of the learning process, isnít it?
The Cycles of the Calendar
So this very first cycle ó it was carved some 2500 years ago on this rock ó started 16.4 billion, thatís billion with a Ďbí, years ago. This is why this information hasnít been studied by the archeologists. The archeologists could not conceive of why Indians making pots in the jungle would have any business thinking about 16.4 billion years. So they just put it on the shelf and nobody else looked at it until Calleman came along. In fact when this stone was unearthed, the astronomers, the guys looking out into the galaxies, they had postulated that the Universe, the Big Bang, happened somewhere between 20 and 10 billion years ago. And then later as we got better and better telescopes, we could see further out; they said it wasnít 20, it was like 12 billion years ago and that was it. So this was impossible. So now we have updated Hubbell and we have found that there were things out there 14.5 billion years old. I betcha that in the next few years weíre going to find out that the Maya had it right on, that the Big Bang happened 16.4 billion of our years ago. Understand that this is an exact number of Tuns of 360 day cycles, but when you work it to a year, it gets to a fraction. This whole cycle, 16.4 billion years isdivided into 13 different sections. Each one of them 1.26 billion years long. So a day in this cycle was 1¼ billion years, and each night lasted 1¼ billion years. Okay.
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The fifth night was complete joke, debt hasnt failed, we havent met ET, nor can we co create in 4 years. Its a joke.
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How would you know this?, would you be told on TV if this had actually happened? Can you honestly see the powers that be, broadcasting their demise to the world?

Of course not they will try and lengthen the look and feel of their power as if they stand stronger than ever, its all hollow, the walls of the prison around us have always been paper thin.

Remember we are not in the epicenter of change, we are on the fringes of change, in 10 ,20 or 30 years we will look back in hindsight and see the change was actually spot on time.

The government will do all it can do to put a brave face on and make us think it will soon be business as normal, when it will be anything but.

People, we have nothing to fear, not from a new world order or the hyped fear of a solar event doing this of that.

If you "listened" to Ian Xel Lungold you will see that the consciousness of the whole will use any and all necessary means to achieve its goal of evolutionary progress. That can even mean the loss of this life you live now, through any form at all.

If you cannot see a better world in front of you then what will be the surprise when you don't get one. You are not in control of your life 3 years from now, you are in control of your life right now.

You already have the foot in the door of life, that will never change, once in existence always in existence. No matter what form you have or will take you are always "you" every time, its only the memory of this which we do not posses right now. You are not your body and you are not your mind, you are eternal so act like it and fear nothing, and no matter what happens, never spread fear where you can spread love.

The whole celestial debate is the largest event ever to happen so you better believe there are those that wish to subvert its meaning, even by destabilizing the actual date.
If I were a betting man I would give Lungold/Callerman the edge, just through the way they present themselves, without a single shred of fear.

No one is forcing anyone to believe in love, but people are sure trying their best to force people to believe in fear.

Stay calm, stay well.
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the dates are wrong that's all.
The future can't be 100% acurately predicited because it's in constant flux. You can only predict that something will happen so long as the same course of events continue in exactly the same manner.

I believe that we will get something like what Ian had decoded. Only the dates are wrong.

Check back again in 12 months.
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This.
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ian's prediction is 1 year OFF

the year is 2010
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i remember that i analyzed ian's charts and i found a mistake according to my model of reality. i don't remember exactly but it had something to do with the "days and nights" stuff. i concluded he was off by one year or more, but never looked back at it again.
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Isn't it interesting that nearly always none of these guys are ever around to answer for themselves.
Didn't Ian Longold die of something?
How about Mackenna? Did he not die in 2000?

Would love to know what Mackenna and Lungold's take would be on today and how they got a few things wrong.
It does not mean that their theory on the whole is wrong. I think they had it right but predicting the future is not something that people should easily stick their neck out for.
A theory of something is one thing and then predicting the future based on that theory is nearly always wrong.
I think Lungold was far too excited about his theories and forgot to look at things in a very common sense way.

Take the 5th night as an example. Based on his theories he came up with predictions for 5th night but a little bit of common sense and thinking would have told him that this is impossible at such a short time for humanity. Its like saying that a certain person is going to grow 6 inches over night based on a certain theory and failing to take in to account history, experience, human biology and logic to see that it is impossible for it to happen over night. (in one year maybe but not in one night).
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Actually i think that Lungold was living a dream. A fantasy that many like to see in movies.
Was it because he was dying? Was this his way of seeing heaven as he left the body?
Was it the case with Macckena too?
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ian exaggerated on his interpretations. his interpretations are the least important bits of his videos. i never pay much attention to them.
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+1
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Old Post But a Great Thread, Interesting Perspectives.
Here's A Video, interesting stuff.


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