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Is Canada A Good Place To Live? (thinking of moving there)

 
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Me too I so loved in in Nfld.. felt like that everywhere..like in the pic eh?
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Indeed, i took a trip out there many years ago, it was very...calm

had a great time, and loved peggy's cove. Just sitting on the rocks...very nice feeling of connection there
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Newfoundland is paradise...


Stay away or treat it with respect.
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Yes.. but you know somehow you just want to treat it with respect anyway.. it blew me away..
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Me too I so loved in in Nfld.. felt like that everywhere..like in the pic eh?


Indeed, i took a trip out there many years ago, it was very...calm

had a great time, and loved peggy's cove. Just sitting on the rocks...very nice feeling of connection there
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For me as well. It felt like home.
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I.. I.. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!


THIS is CANADIAN.


I LOVE!


lol cheers

yes, it does something too me...very organic. Makes me feel at home
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PEI looks awesome. I know a gal who moved there after purchasing a duplex for $118,000. Both halves of the duplex, she's gonna open it up into a big single home.



I bought a huge duplex here in Ontario for 110,000. My tenants pay my mortgage. I have near 1000 sq ft on the upper level all to myself. Beauty!
 Quoting: Full Circle



What year did you buy your place? What are house prices there now?
See ya.
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11/15/2008 05:51 PM
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That girl is awesome, her playing made my hair stand up.
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Yes.. but you know somehow you just want to treat it with respect anyway.. it blew me away..
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I know exactly what you mean, girl!!!


cheers
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Good luck getting in. It's not easy. They actually have rules to get in unlike the US. And if your American, it's really hard. You need to actually have skills, and an education. You need so many points to even have a chance. Now, if your from some poor backwater country, you can get in real easy, claiming political asylum or religious freedom.
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Oh you really don't want to move to Canada. We have socialized healthcare!!! Wouldn't you rather stay there and fork out your $500 per month in insurance. It's really difficult to go and get a prescription and have to pay $6.85 dispensing fee.

Yeah right man, it maybe socialized healthcare, but I probably racked up over $130,000 in Emergency Fees over the years when I was younger in Canada that the government paid.

While I was in the ER, there was an American woman there who had to pay the Canadian Hospital $1500 upfront just to be looked at.

I don't care what people say about the Canadian Healthcare system, but when I was in the hospital, I am glad I didn't have to worry about paying... like I would have in America.

In America, they overbill the SHIT out of everyone....

The ER wait lines in Canada is bullshit though, the system is not that great, but it's free. I saw a woman in the hospital who couldn't breath, and was stuck in the ER waiting for HOURS, and she was there the other night.

The Healthcare system is really good compared to other countries, but needs improvement.


For those who can afford it, there are still some private hospitals.
 Quoting: Whee! 8D.qc.ca


I was only kidding! Seriously, my youngest son has a severe peanut allergy and requires epi-pens. They run over $100 per pop and all I pay is a dispensing fee of $6.85. I have lived in Canada all of my life, had 5 children and never had to pay extra over and above the nominal fee that is charged for the medical services plan. We have been to ER on occasion and never had a huge wait. My father-in-law suffered from all sorts of illesses and was on dialysis, all covered. I wonder what it would cost for dialysis 3 times per week in the US if you didn't have insurance. During the election, I heard some people claiming that in Canada you can't chose which doctor you go to or which hospital you go to. That is simply not true. Unlike the American HMOs that give you a list of physicians that you can go to, we are free to go to anyone we want, providing they are taking new patients!

Yup, I love this country of ours and wouldn't want to go live anywhere else.

PSST. . . . if you do move here OP, call home and tell everyone know how really dreadful it is, kay. We'd rather our little secret didn't get out.
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What advice do you Canadians have for someone who is moving to Canada for the first time?
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Yes.. but you know somehow you just want to treat it with respect anyway.. it blew me away..



I know exactly what you mean, girl!!!


cheers
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A very awe inspiring place.. I had never seen an ocean.. I told my bf(at the time he is a Newfie) to tell me when we would actually see it so's i could just peek a little at first! I grew up around a bay but nothing like that ever.. I am not finished visiting there for sure..
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PEI looks awesome. I know a gal who moved there after purchasing a duplex for $118,000. Both halves of the duplex, she's gonna open it up into a big single home.



I bought a huge duplex here in Ontario for 110,000. My tenants pay my mortgage. I have near 1000 sq ft on the upper level all to myself. Beauty!



What year did you buy your place? What are house prices there now?
 Quoting: Tryptamind



I closed in March of '07. I will say it was a "fixer-upper", but not so bad. Structurally sound and if you have the know-how to do it yourself.....excellent buy. ( I always wanted to get creative with a project)

I have no idea what house prices are right now because I have no need to look!
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PEI looks awesome. I know a gal who moved there after purchasing a duplex for $118,000. Both halves of the duplex, she's gonna open it up into a big single home.



I bought a huge duplex here in Ontario for 110,000. My tenants pay my mortgage. I have near 1000 sq ft on the upper level all to myself. Beauty!



What year did you buy your place? What are house prices there now?



I closed in March of '07. I will say it was a "fixer-upper", but not so bad. Structurally sound and if you have the know-how to do it yourself.....excellent buy. ( I always wanted to get creative with a project)

I have no idea what house prices are right now because I have no need to look!
 Quoting: Full Circle


Fawk... thats awesome price... $110,000 can't even get you a 300ft studio apt on the west coast. 400G's to live in the crappiest neighborhood also.

I dislike the overinflated real estate market on the west coast.
See ya.
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11/15/2008 06:10 PM
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whats the best place to live in EAST Canada if you're staunchly pro-hemp and pro-marijuana?

Ottawa?

Toronto im thinking is a no?
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Well marijuana is still illegal in all provinces just so you know. We came real close to decriminalizing it in Ontario a few years ago.

Toronto is pretty open when it comes to marijuana. I know of at least 3 or 4 cafes/lounges where you can smoke in peace and grab a bite to eat. They are real low key establishements yet not sketchy and no selling is allowed so they rarely ever get busted or shut down.

Toronto also holds a huge Marijuana march every May in conjunction with other cities all over the world. Thousands gather to march down the streets in peaceful protest and then gather at this huge park. Once at the park there are bands playing and lots of info booths and the police allow you to smoke freely as long as you stay in the park area. It's a pretty cool expierence and a lot of fun.

I would avoid Ottawa. It's like government central. The parliment is their and military bases. Very business and serious and not very artsy or hippie.
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11/15/2008 06:16 PM
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I need to know everyday stuff like how to get a driver's license.. what to expect when apartment hunting, etc... everyday stuff. Thinking of the Vancouver or Toronto area.



Toronto gets snow all winter which is a downer and Vancouver gets rain all winter which is a downer.

I guess if you like "big city" life it's your choice. For me, I'll stick in my little 30,000 community.

I did live in Toronto for a while but didn't like it.....a nice place to VISIT though.

wrong. toronto hardly had any snow last winter. only 2 snowstorms. it was no snow till december,



I know that....but Jan/Feb was steady, regular snow. Torontonians cried like babies during one of the blasts they got in Dec. of last year.


As someone who gets more than 3 feet of snow in Quebec... I know that the foot of snow that Montreal usually gets when it's only 500 km south of where I am is kind of cheap and easy to live with.

So, I suppose that what people in Ontario get is much less... that must make it quite easy to live with.
 Quoting: Whee! 8D.qc.ca

!HaH!
Trust me, we get FEET of snow...(Kitchener, Ont)
The snowbanks are usually three to four feet high...and we're south of the snowbelt areas!

And it's a WET cold, lol!! verycold

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Oh you really don't want to move to Canada. We have socialized healthcare!!! Wouldn't you rather stay there and fork out your $500 per month in insurance. It's really difficult to go and get a prescription and have to pay $6.85 dispensing fee.

And do you know how hard it is trying to keep a roof on the igloo these days what with global warming, etc.

You probably wouldn't like our politics either. We're really backward. We have paper ballots and mark and x for the guy we want. We have a choice between about 5 or 6 parties and the guy with the most votes actually gets to be the one who governs the country. How messed up is that?

Okay, I'll give you that we have ass kicking good beer up here, but you'll probably hate poutine. Do you like ice hockey? Not much basketball up here, but we do have the Canadian Football League. Oh yeah, lots of fresh water and no rolling blackouts to contend with.

You really should reconsider, life in Canada might not be your cup of Red Rose tea. Oh by the way, if you should decide to come up here, please be kind enough to leave your firearms at home. Thank you.
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1rof1



"Oh by the way, if you should decide to come up here, please be kind enough to leave your firearms at home. Thank you."

Indeed! thumbs
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PEI looks awesome. I know a gal who moved there after purchasing a duplex for $118,000. Both halves of the duplex, she's gonna open it up into a big single home.



I bought a huge duplex here in Ontario for 110,000. My tenants pay my mortgage. I have near 1000 sq ft on the upper level all to myself. Beauty!



What year did you buy your place? What are house prices there now?



I closed in March of '07. I will say it was a "fixer-upper", but not so bad. Structurally sound and if you have the know-how to do it yourself.....excellent buy. ( I always wanted to get creative with a project)

I have no idea what house prices are right now because I have no need to look!


Fawk... thats awesome price... $110,000 can't even get you a 300ft studio apt on the west coast. 400G's to live in the crappiest neighborhood also.

I dislike the overinflated real estate market on the west coast.
 Quoting: Tryptamind



You betcha! Here's a before and after of the kitchen!

Kitchen is 20' x 11'

[link to i47.photobucket.com]

[link to i47.photobucket.com]

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How about some of the smaller cities in BC like Kelowna?


You are asking the right question

I live in S BC not kelowna..Canada is all about small towns like Kelowna..I can't stress the beauty in Kelowna [still to big] Canada has to offer..What can I say..heaven maybe.

or spoiled bratt Lol You won't be disappointed

Nelson has a fair American population [USA Draft Dodgersville]
 Quoting: Free Store.

"Canada is all about small towns like Kelowna.."

Yup...

Small and medium sized towns and villages.

We don't really have that many BIG cities, eh. cheers
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whats the best place to live in EAST Canada if you're staunchly pro-hemp and pro-marijuana?

Ottawa?

Toronto im thinking is a no?


We smoke weed all over Canada lol I dont know who's more staunch but it's all over.. Ontario is central btw.. east would be New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and PEI


The Atlantic Provinces are a secret, there is nothing east of Quebec. Most people would suffer from culture shock, the slow way of life.
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Yeah, sis!! secrets


"The Atlantic Provinces are a secret thumbs
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Yep. I'll take small town any day.
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PEI looks awesome. I know a gal who moved there after purchasing a duplex for $118,000. Both halves of the duplex, she's gonna open it up into a big single home.



I bought a huge duplex here in Ontario for 110,000. My tenants pay my mortgage. I have near 1000 sq ft on the upper level all to myself. Beauty!



What year did you buy your place? What are house prices there now?



I closed in March of '07. I will say it was a "fixer-upper", but not so bad. Structurally sound and if you have the know-how to do it yourself.....excellent buy. ( I always wanted to get creative with a project)

I have no idea what house prices are right now because I have no need to look!


Fawk... thats awesome price... $110,000 can't even get you a 300ft studio apt on the west coast. 400G's to live in the crappiest neighborhood also.

I dislike the overinflated real estate market on the west coast.



You betcha! Here's a before and after of the kitchen!

Kitchen is 20' x 11'

[link to i47.photobucket.com]

[link to i47.photobucket.com]

All the rooms are huge!
 Quoting: Full Circle



Damn.. thats awesome! How many minutes drive to a major city or University? I assume it's a suburban community...
See ya.
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PEI looks awesome. I know a gal who moved there after purchasing a duplex for $118,000. Both halves of the duplex, she's gonna open it up into a big single home.



I bought a huge duplex here in Ontario for 110,000. My tenants pay my mortgage. I have near 1000 sq ft on the upper level all to myself. Beauty!



What year did you buy your place? What are house prices there now?



I closed in March of '07. I will say it was a "fixer-upper", but not so bad. Structurally sound and if you have the know-how to do it yourself.....excellent buy. ( I always wanted to get creative with a project)

I have no idea what house prices are right now because I have no need to look!


Fawk... thats awesome price... $110,000 can't even get you a 300ft studio apt on the west coast. 400G's to live in the crappiest neighborhood also.

I dislike the overinflated real estate market on the west coast.



You betcha! Here's a before and after of the kitchen!

Kitchen is 20' x 11'

[link to i47.photobucket.com]

[link to i47.photobucket.com]

All the rooms are huge!



Damn.. thats awesome! How many minutes drive to a major city or University? I assume it's a suburban community...
 Quoting: Tryptamind



London is 15 minutes drive and has nearing 400,000 pop. Good University...(University of Western Ontario). Lots of night life and an excellent arena for major attractions (JLC)
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"Canada is all about small towns like Kelowna.."

Yup...

Small and medium sized towns and villages.

We don't really have that many BIG cities, eh. cheers
 Quoting: <October>


I think immigration should be more tolerant to those who want to start a new life here and be less restrictive on who has the best skills or has lots of capital

And let the Artsy fartsy groups and the peacenic groups more access

Canada should be for everyone !!
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Oh you really don't want to move to Canada. We have socialized healthcare!!! Wouldn't you rather stay there and fork out your $500 per month in insurance. It's really difficult to go and get a prescription and have to pay $6.85 dispensing fee.

Yeah right man, it maybe socialized healthcare, but I probably racked up over $130,000 in Emergency Fees over the years when I was younger in Canada that the government paid.

While I was in the ER, there was an American woman there who had to pay the Canadian Hospital $1500 upfront just to be looked at.

I don't care what people say about the Canadian Healthcare system, but when I was in the hospital, I am glad I didn't have to worry about paying... like I would have in America.

In America, they overbill the SHIT out of everyone....

The ER wait lines in Canada is bullshit though, the system is not that great, but it's free. I saw a woman in the hospital who couldn't breath, and was stuck in the ER waiting for HOURS, and she was there the other night.

The Healthcare system is really good compared to other countries, but needs improvement.


For those who can afford it, there are still some private hospitals.


I was only kidding! Seriously, my youngest son has a severe peanut allergy and requires epi-pens. They run over $100 per pop and all I pay is a dispensing fee of $6.85. I have lived in Canada all of my life, had 5 children and never had to pay extra over and above the nominal fee that is charged for the medical services plan. We have been to ER on occasion and never had a huge wait. My father-in-law suffered from all sorts of illesses and was on dialysis, all covered. I wonder what it would cost for dialysis 3 times per week in the US if you didn't have insurance. During the election, I heard some people claiming that in Canada you can't chose which doctor you go to or which hospital you go to. That is simply not true. Unlike the American HMOs that give you a list of physicians that you can go to, we are free to go to anyone we want, providing they are taking new patients!

Yup, I love this country of ours and wouldn't want to go live anywhere else.

PSST. . . . if you do move here OP, call home and tell everyone know how really dreadful it is, kay. We'd rather our little secret didn't get out.
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AC... hugs

PSST. . . . if you do move here OP, call home and tell everyone know how really dreadful it is, kay. We'd rather our little secret didn't get out.

That's the thing, eh...:(



Although more tax-payers would be good...! hmm



btw...I appreciate your humour, lol! 1rof1
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We got all kindsa Universities.. U of T.. Wilfred Laurier.. U of Waterloo.. McMaster U.. none of them too far..
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London is 15 minutes drive and has nearing 400,000 pop. Good University...(University of Western Ontario). Lots of night life and an excellent arena for major attractions (JLC)
 Quoting: Full Circle


Awesome.

Anyone who wants to move to Canada should take real estate prices into consideration. The westcoast is almost impossible to become a homeowner. 1 million dollar houses in Vancouver, which are old, and half a mill in the suburbs.

Ontario sounds like a nice place to establish yourself if you're a student or young family.

:)
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whats the best place to live in EAST Canada if you're staunchly pro-hemp and pro-marijuana?

Ottawa?

Toronto im thinking is a no?


Well marijuana is still illegal in all provinces just so you know. We came real close to decriminalizing it in Ontario a few years ago.

Toronto is pretty open when it comes to marijuana. I know of at least 3 or 4 cafes/lounges where you can smoke in peace and grab a bite to eat. They are real low key establishements yet not sketchy and no selling is allowed so they rarely ever get busted or shut down.

Toronto also holds a huge Marijuana march every May in conjunction with other cities all over the world. Thousands gather to march down the streets in peaceful protest and then gather at this huge park. Once at the park there are bands playing and lots of info booths and the police allow you to smoke freely as long as you stay in the park area. It's a pretty cool expierence and a lot of fun.

I would avoid Ottawa. It's like government central. The parliment is their and military bases. Very business and serious and not very artsy or hippie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422773

Apparently it's status is in limbo right now.

They haven't figured it out yet, but generally a gram/joint might get you a fine.

The courts and the cops have more important things to do than bother with recreational users.

Just don't be too obvious, eh!



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We got all kindsa Universities.. U of T.. Wilfred Laurier.. U of Waterloo.. McMaster U.. none of them too far..
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Cool.
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Good luck getting in. It's not easy. They actually have rules to get in unlike the US. And if your American, it's really hard. You need to actually have skills, and an education. You need so many points to even have a chance. Now, if your from some poor backwater country, you can get in real easy, claiming political asylum or religious freedom.
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Political asylum should be okay with the USA LOL
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Burlington Ontario, a beautiful city of hundred and fifty thousand people living here. We have NO CRIME, hardly a fight amongst spouses but that is about it.

We have lot's of jobs, we are a clean city, we don't hav very tall buildings, we have a great beach with lots of birds and long bike trails.

We have BIG festivals, family festivals, Sound of Music, Rib Festival, Children s Festival... People come from around the world to visit at times. Nice people :).

My favorite place is the harbor, and the Lake Shore Beach trail, you have free telescopes you can look from, old fashioned Bakers, Ice Cream, Pizzerias... Beautiful for a summer walk.

The winters are not too cold or long, sort of typical European style Paris, Italy... Ontario lake is HUGE, and alive.

Burlington is about 45 minutes away from Toronto, 20 minutes away from Hamilton, 1 hour from London or Kitchener, Niagara Falls.

Medical is free, you only pay for Dental 20% after 3 months of being hired. Mean while your City will pay for your emergency dental, eye ware and exams, and medicine.

Industrial jobs are close by, manufacturing jobs, administrative jobs, trades are in demand.

You can have a free land for a garden in the summer to kill some time from the local farmer programs or the gov... There is lots of national parks close by and adventurous heritage places you can visit. IT IS AMAZING.

Come on down... It's a secret oasis





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