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Message Subject ENDING THE "RAPTURE" DEBATE USING BIBLE VERSES!!!
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Pneumatologically, the church CANNOT be in the tribulation. Jesus promised the church POWER over ALL the works of the enemy. If antichrist came up against the ecclesia of Christ Jesus,pardon me for saying so and putting a pin in your post-tribulational science fiction view of the Tribulation; he would get his rear premises soundly kicked the same way Christians,(real ones) have been doing to devils during healings and exorcisms for 2000 years. The church isn't going in the Rapture to escape the devil; the devil's only way to fulfill his role and escape the wrath and power of the church while doing so, is for the church to be taken out in the Rapture. Those victorious Christians who live in victory know this.


I work in deliverance ministry. I have heard these bastardly things scream in agony and defeat as they are forced to come out of people. My pneumatology is learned from experience. The devil must SUBMIT to Christ Jesus and His anointed followers ALWAYS. yet in Revelation we find satan overcoming the witnesses. well, Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail over HIS church. I KNOW this to be true. That is an ALIEN dispensation that goes through the tribulation, not the Bride of Christ. Amen. And hallelujia.


And btw,this is what Paul taught-it's not my idea exclusively. He said of the antichrist that He who now lets( restrains) will do so until he be TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY. That is the Body of Christ and His indwelling Spirit being TAKEN OUT in the rapture. And THEN shall the wicked One ne revealed.( II Thessalonians 2:8 ). We,the church, would BIND antichrist's power and there would be NO tribulation. It's in God's plan so we HAVE to leave. Glory to God.




While we are in Thessalonians,consider too that Paul taught that the Tribulation would not come "except there come a FALLING AWAY" FIRST. Post-tribbers say that means apostasy. Not so. More bogus eisegesis on your part sorry to say. The greek is HEE APHISTEEMI. "THE" DEPARTURE. The definite article indicates one,unique departure. There has been apostasies for 2000 years. It can't mean that. And btw every time that root is used for apostasy it is used with descriptive,modifying syntactical constructions like "departure from the faith" etc. No- THE DEPARTURE is the departure of the church, THE Rapture. Paul is saying that will come FIRST. PRE-tribulation kids. take it to the bank. It's what Paul AND Jesus taught. It;s what the OP wants to change and distort.



Not on my watch.
 
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