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Ran yesterday:

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According to Berg:
"In addition,according to U.S. law pertaining to births abroad, from “Dec. 24, 1952, to Nov. 13, 1986, ”in order to
register the child’s birth as a U.S. natural-born citizen at the time of Obama’s birth, he or she must be: 1. Born to two U.S. citizen parents; OR 2. If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of the birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which must be after the age of 14. Since Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was
only 18 at the time of his birth, she failed to meet the legal requirements of U.S. residency for at least five years after the age of 14."

This contradicts what is states at WiseGeek:

"In situations where only one parent is a United States citizen, he or she must have lived in the United States for at least five years at some point before the child's birth as a full American citizen, and at least two of these five years must have occurred after the parent's 14th birthday."
[link to www.wisegeek.com]

Now, who's right? Both could be right if they refer, respectively, to the period 1952-1986 and to the present. So that may not be a problem, if the law has changed since then. My problem with Berg's version of the law is that it would mean that all babies born with a foreign father to American girls under the age of 19 would not be regarded as natural born American citizens! Can that be right?
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Berg should have saved his money. Fucking sore losers.
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Would it seriously be "ok" with you if someone who is not a US citizen is the POTUS??
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Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.
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Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553692



The reality of the situation is: no one has come up with anybody who was in the maternity ward of the hospital at the same time as a white woman, with a man's name, having a black baby. Can't imagine that situation was so common to not be memorable.

Especially given the list of names in the Honolulu paper of people having children in that time frame... SOMEBODY must remember them!
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According to Berg:
"In addition,according to U.S. law pertaining to births abroad, from “Dec. 24, 1952, to Nov. 13, 1986, ”in order to
register the child’s birth as a U.S. natural-born citizen at the time of Obama’s birth, he or she must be: 1. Born to two U.S. citizen parents; OR 2. If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of the birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which must be after the age of 14. Since Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was
only 18 at the time of his birth, she failed to meet the legal requirements of U.S. residency for at least five years after the age of 14."

This contradicts what is states at WiseGeek:

"In situations where only one parent is a United States citizen, he or she must have lived in the United States for at least five years at some point before the child's birth as a full American citizen, and at least two of these five years must have occurred after the parent's 14th birthday."
[link to www.wisegeek.com]

Now, who's right? Both could be right if they refer, respectively, to the period 1952-1986 and to the present. So that may not be a problem, if the law has changed since then. My problem with Berg's version of the law is that it would mean that all babies born with a foreign father to American girls under the age of 19 would not be regarded as natural born American citizens! Can that be right?
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The Law was changed in 86, so the law in effect at the time was 10 years total, 5 past the age of 14. This only applies to children born in a non American territory abroad to only one American citizen, not 2. It has nothing to do with children born in the US. The Ascertation the Berg makes where this would apply is that Obama was not born in the US.

Since Hawaii law at the time allowed people to register a birth for up to a year after it happened and get a certification with no doctor or hospital signing off, Berg is petioning to have the long form, if one exists, that will either show this or not.

The burden of proof of qualification is on the person seeking deligation to power.

In either case, Obama really should be forthcoming with the records he has kept away from the American people IMO. His college records, Medical records, his full birth Certificate and not the shorty form "Certification" he has given out to a web site, but the real Certificate like we all have, doctors signatures, whether or not you were a single or multiple birth, signatures of the regisrtars, citizenship of parents etc etc.

He is asking us to trust him with a lot. His current answer of piss off I'm not releasing those essential records is unacceptable to me.

There is also a Selective Service Registration form which has surfaced under the Freedom of Information act that can only and without a doubt be a forgery if it is indeed legitimate and not altered by the claimant, so something is going on if that is true.
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Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553692


You really think someone would have found Stanley Ann Dunahm's passport by now, do you?

I expect you also believe the passport found in the WTC belonged to one of the hijackers. LOL!
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Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553692

The reailty is that the burden of proof is on the Petitioner and President Elect Secret fuckhead has told the American to shove it.

No college records
No medical records
No full Certificate
No Senate Papers
No Bar Application
No Client list from the law firm
and on and on and on.

The media aided and abetted him in hiding way too much information from the American people. He is now the president elect and that is largely in part and parcel due to the gross manipulation by the media.

Time to come clean, if there is a question, which I suspect there is, because he has gone to deliberate and extensive lengths to keep his birth record as well as any place he would have had to use it prior to 2001 hidden from the public, then let the SCOTUS decide.

My opinion is fuck him and his lawyering bullshit, he has a moral obligation to make information along the lines of the above public. So you get over it with you kiss ass at all costs crap, this will never go away, and it shouldn't. The American people are tired of being told to shut the fuck up and watching elected officials do whatever the hell they please and trample over OUR constituation, if you've already had enough of Bush doing just that? Then it should be incomprehensible that this acceptable.
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According to Berg:
"In addition,according to U.S. law pertaining to births abroad, from “Dec. 24, 1952, to Nov. 13, 1986, ”in order to
register the child’s birth as a U.S. natural-born citizen at the time of Obama’s birth, he or she must be: 1. Born to two U.S. citizen parents; OR 2. If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of the birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, at least five of which must be after the age of 14. Since Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was
only 18 at the time of his birth, she failed to meet the legal requirements of U.S. residency for at least five years after the age of 14."

This contradicts what is states at WiseGeek:

"In situations where only one parent is a United States citizen, he or she must have lived in the United States for at least five years at some point before the child's birth as a full American citizen, and at least two of these five years must have occurred after the parent's 14th birthday."
[link to www.wisegeek.com]

Now, who's right? Both could be right if they refer, respectively, to the period 1952-1986 and to the present. So that may not be a problem, if the law has changed since then. My problem with Berg's version of the law is that it would mean that all babies born with a foreign father to American girls under the age of 19 would not be regarded as natural born American citizens! Can that be right?


The Law was changed in 86, so the law in effect at the time was 10 years total, 5 past the age of 14. This only applies to children born in a non American territory abroad to only one American citizen, not 2. It has nothing to do with children born in the US. The Ascertation the Berg makes where this would apply is that Obama was not born in the US.

Since Hawaii law at the time allowed people to register a birth for up to a year after it happened and get a certification with no doctor or hospital signing off, Berg is petioning to have the long form, if one exists, that will either show this or not.

The burden of proof of qualification is on the person seeking deligation to power.

In either case, Obama really should be forthcoming with the records he has kept away from the American people IMO. His college records, Medical records, his full birth Certificate and not the shorty form "Certification" he has given out to a web site, but the real Certificate like we all have, doctors signatures, whether or not you were a single or multiple birth, signatures of the regisrtars, citizenship of parents etc etc.

He is asking us to trust him with a lot. His current answer of piss off I'm not releasing those essential records is unacceptable to me.

There is also a Selective Service Registration form which has surfaced under the Freedom of Information act that can only and without a doubt be a forgery if it is indeed legitimate and not altered by the claimant, so something is going on if that is true.
 Quoting: SHR

I agree completely. So Berg's legal argument is fatal only if it can be proved that Obama was born outside US territory. That makes Grandma Sarah's testimony crucial if the original birth certificate no longer exists. Will her testimony be sufficient for the court, I wonder.
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Pretty scary how indifferent this country has become, that all this is "ok" with so many of her citizens...
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Berg should have saved his money. Fucking sore losers.



Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.



The reality of the situation is: no one has come up with anybody who was in the maternity ward of the hospital at the same time as a white woman, with a man's name, having a black baby. Can't imagine that situation was so common to not be memorable.

Especially given the list of names in the Honolulu paper of people having children in that time frame... SOMEBODY must remember them!

 Quoting: OneConsciousness




SOMEBODY DOES !

his Grannie Sarah Obama remembers well being at the
hospital in Mombasa Kenya when he was born there



but the youtube video of her interview was removed


her voice is on another video saying it but the film of
her is long gone
I posted it here when it was still up.


.Many youtubes of bama lies have been removed.



hiding
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This is the most important job in this country. I want to see proof that he is a natural born citizen. Anyone that keeps this from happening needs to step down from the well paid government job that they have and let an honest person take it. This has nothing to do with race, but has much to do with culture.Our constitution was formed to prevent a takeover by the system that our forefathers left. It is starting to look like they will finally succeed.
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Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.



The reality of the situation is: no one has come up with anybody who was in the maternity ward of the hospital at the same time as a white woman, with a man's name, having a black baby. Can't imagine that situation was so common to not be memorable.

Especially given the list of names in the Honolulu paper of people having children in that time frame... SOMEBODY must remember them!





SOMEBODY DOES !

his Grannie Sarah Obama remembers well being at the
hospital in Mombasa Kenya when he was born there



but the youtube video of her interview was removed


her voice is on another video saying it but the film of
her is long gone
I posted it here when it was still up.


.Many youtubes of bama lies have been removed.



hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530832



Good point!
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Berg should have saved his money. Fucking sore losers.



Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.



The reality of the situation is: no one has come up with anybody who was in the maternity ward of the hospital at the same time as a white woman, with a man's name, having a black baby. Can't imagine that situation was so common to not be memorable.

Especially given the list of names in the Honolulu paper of people having children in that time frame... SOMEBODY must remember them!





SOMEBODY DOES !

his Grannie Sarah Obama remembers well being at the
hospital in Mombasa Kenya when he was born there



but the youtube video of her interview was removed


her voice is on another video saying it but the film of
her is long gone
I posted it here when it was still up.


.Many youtubes of bama lies have been removed.



hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 530832

Here's the recording of her saying she attended his birth:
[link to video.aol.com]
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Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.

The reailty is that the burden of proof is on the Petitioner and President Elect Secret fuckhead has told the American to shove it.

No college records
No medical records
No full Certificate
No Senate Papers
No Bar Application
No Client list from the law firm
and on and on and on.

The media aided and abetted him in hiding way too much information from the American people. He is now the president elect and that is largely in part and parcel due to the gross manipulation by the media.

Time to come clean, if there is a question, which I suspect there is, because he has gone to deliberate and extensive lengths to keep his birth record as well as any place he would have had to use it prior to 2001 hidden from the public, then let the SCOTUS decide.

My opinion is fuck him and his lawyering bullshit, he has a moral obligation to make information along the lines of the above public. So you get over it with you kiss ass at all costs crap, this will never go away, and it shouldn't. The American people are tired of being told to shut the fuck up and watching elected officials do whatever the hell they please and trample over OUR constituation, if you've already had enough of Bush doing just that? Then it should be incomprehensible that this acceptable.
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SHR just suppose for 1 second that those personal documents you mentioned have been seen by the proper authorities who decide whether someone is eligible to be POTUS. The Obama bashers at GLP seem to think he needs to post them here and bring them to every person who is asking. Just suppose for 1 second the documents do exist and the people who need to see them already have. Do you think that is a possibility?
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I think it should be there on the net after all this time for the world to see.

If not it doesn't exist.
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Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.

The reailty is that the burden of proof is on the Petitioner and President Elect Secret fuckhead has told the American to shove it.

No college records
No medical records
No full Certificate
No Senate Papers
No Bar Application
No Client list from the law firm
and on and on and on.

The media aided and abetted him in hiding way too much information from the American people. He is now the president elect and that is largely in part and parcel due to the gross manipulation by the media.

Time to come clean, if there is a question, which I suspect there is, because he has gone to deliberate and extensive lengths to keep his birth record as well as any place he would have had to use it prior to 2001 hidden from the public, then let the SCOTUS decide.

My opinion is fuck him and his lawyering bullshit, he has a moral obligation to make information along the lines of the above public. So you get over it with you kiss ass at all costs crap, this will never go away, and it shouldn't. The American people are tired of being told to shut the fuck up and watching elected officials do whatever the hell they please and trample over OUR constituation, if you've already had enough of Bush doing just that? Then it should be incomprehensible that this acceptable.

SHR just suppose for 1 second that those personal documents you mentioned have been seen by the proper authorities who decide whether someone is eligible to be POTUS. The Obama bashers at GLP seem to think he needs to post them here and bring them to every person who is asking. Just suppose for 1 second the documents do exist and the people who need to see them already have. Do you think that is a possibility?
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If they have, then why not just produce them (on his own site if necessary) instead of spending a fortune on lawyers trying to fight the lawsuits. Seriously Reece, isn't that just raising an eyebrow with you?
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Somebody still might produce a Kenyan one yet.

There is plenty of time up to the 15th December.
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Video still exists of Grandma Sarah saying Obama was "born in this village". However, some dispute the translation.
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I'm with SHR on this.

How is it possible that a forum full of people who believe with all their hearts in Planet X, pole shift, 911-inside job, chemtrails and reptilians, suddenly find it so hard to imagine that Obama might be lying? He won't show his COLB even when a judge asks him to, his own campaign put out a forged document, his own grandmother admits to being in the Kenyan hospital where he was born, and even as lawsuits against him are stacking up to the heavens and half of America demanding to see it, Obama still refuses to hand over his COLB. Why? And why is it that the very group who claim to have connected all the invisible dots of every conspiracy ever conceived able to look at THIS situation and not see anything suspicious at all?

I'm not trashing anyone here for their beliefs, but when a group of people gnash their teeth and rend their garments every day over TPTB lying to them, then turn right around and happily bend over when it's THEIR guy whipping out the next big lie, it's just plain hypocritical and intellectually dishonest.
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Berg should have saved his money. Fucking sore losers.
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ROFL

This makes me laugh.
I hated the past 8 years because the whiny Libs couldn't get past the fact that G.W. was president.
And when the Libs have the media in their pocket, that's all we get to hear about.
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Obama HAS shown his COLB. It's the orginal birth certificate signed by doctors which has not been made public.
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Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.

The reailty is that the burden of proof is on the Petitioner and President Elect Secret fuckhead has told the American to shove it.

No college records
No medical records
No full Certificate
No Senate Papers
No Bar Application
No Client list from the law firm
and on and on and on.

The media aided and abetted him in hiding way too much information from the American people. He is now the president elect and that is largely in part and parcel due to the gross manipulation by the media.

Time to come clean, if there is a question, which I suspect there is, because he has gone to deliberate and extensive lengths to keep his birth record as well as any place he would have had to use it prior to 2001 hidden from the public, then let the SCOTUS decide.

My opinion is fuck him and his lawyering bullshit, he has a moral obligation to make information along the lines of the above public. So you get over it with you kiss ass at all costs crap, this will never go away, and it shouldn't. The American people are tired of being told to shut the fuck up and watching elected officials do whatever the hell they please and trample over OUR constituation, if you've already had enough of Bush doing just that? Then it should be incomprehensible that this acceptable.

SHR just suppose for 1 second that those personal documents you mentioned have been seen by the proper authorities who decide whether someone is eligible to be POTUS. The Obama bashers at GLP seem to think he needs to post them here and bring them to every person who is asking. Just suppose for 1 second the documents do exist and the people who need to see them already have. Do you think that is a possibility?



If they have, then why not just produce them (on his own site if necessary) instead of spending a fortune on lawyers trying to fight the lawsuits. Seriously Reece, isn't that just raising an eyebrow with you?
 Quoting: OneConsciousness

Hasn't he produced his BC a few times and Berg and the other Obama bashers just says its fake.
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I'm with SHR on this.

How is it possible that a forum full of people who believe with all their hearts in Planet X, pole shift, 911-inside job, chemtrails and reptilians, suddenly find it so hard to imagine that Obama might be lying? He won't show his COLB even when a judge asks him to, his own campaign put out a forged document, his own grandmother admits to being in the Kenyan hospital where he was born, and even as lawsuits against him are stacking up to the heavens and half of America demanding to see it, Obama still refuses to hand over his COLB. Why? And why is it that the very group who claim to have connected all the invisible dots of every conspiracy ever conceived able to look at THIS situation and not see anything suspicious at all?

I'm not trashing anyone here for their beliefs, but when a group of people gnash their teeth and rend their garments every day over TPTB lying to them, then turn right around and happily bend over when it's THEIR guy whipping out the next big lie, it's just plain hypocritical and intellectually dishonest.
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laugh
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One word...wow. MSM will probably still not utter a word about it.
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11/18/2008 10:33 AM
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Re: Nov. 17th Full Page Ad in Washington Times Questions Obama's Citizenship
Berg should have saved his money. Fucking sore losers.



Yes.

The reality of the situation is that no one has come up with a passport for Obama's mother which puts her out of the country at the time of his birth. In the early 1960's you did not travel out of the country and get back in without a passport, unless you floated in on an inner tube, which some people from Cuba did.

Get over with it and get on! There is serious business to attend.

The reailty is that the burden of proof is on the Petitioner and President Elect Secret fuckhead has told the American to shove it.

No college records
No medical records
No full Certificate
No Senate Papers
No Bar Application
No Client list from the law firm
and on and on and on.

The media aided and abetted him in hiding way too much information from the American people. He is now the president elect and that is largely in part and parcel due to the gross manipulation by the media.

Time to come clean, if there is a question, which I suspect there is, because he has gone to deliberate and extensive lengths to keep his birth record as well as any place he would have had to use it prior to 2001 hidden from the public, then let the SCOTUS decide.

My opinion is fuck him and his lawyering bullshit, he has a moral obligation to make information along the lines of the above public. So you get over it with you kiss ass at all costs crap, this will never go away, and it shouldn't. The American people are tired of being told to shut the fuck up and watching elected officials do whatever the hell they please and trample over OUR constituation, if you've already had enough of Bush doing just that? Then it should be incomprehensible that this acceptable.

SHR just suppose for 1 second that those personal documents you mentioned have been seen by the proper authorities who decide whether someone is eligible to be POTUS. The Obama bashers at GLP seem to think he needs to post them here and bring them to every person who is asking. Just suppose for 1 second the documents do exist and the people who need to see them already have. Do you think that is a possibility?



If they have, then why not just produce them (on his own site if necessary) instead of spending a fortune on lawyers trying to fight the lawsuits. Seriously Reece, isn't that just raising an eyebrow with you?

Hasn't he produced his BC a few times and Berg and the other Obama bashers just says its fake.
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No. He hasn't produced it. That would be the point.
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Hasn't he produced his BC a few times and Berg and the other Obama bashers just says its fake.
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That is correct. He has complied with the law..it is just the sore losers cant grasp that. And why would you believe some old lady in africa as opposed to a certified legal document that he has already produced?

The BC issue is for those who cannot and will not accept that Obama was elected by the majority of America and the electoral college.
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