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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493706
11/20/2008 1:04 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
I have a wild hair to pick up the good book after 20 years. Which version or translation is the best?
I notice now there is english standard version, ESV.
I read the NASB book years ago and found it poetic yet still easy to follow unlike King james.
whats the scoop?
I don't go to church, not exactly religious either. But I enjoy reading the Bible sometimes Quoting: Anonymous Coward 546967
Read the books that were excluded or deleted from the bible. They are a much better read and if they were censored by being removed you've got to know they are the ones with information that the religions don't want you to have...
that is my suggestion. or, just get a bible with the words of Christ in red and read only the red words... a MUCH more clear and accurate connection with what He came to teach us. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 456112
11/20/2008 1:11 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 387487
11/20/2008 2:06 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
NIV is so corrupt that moslems use it to disprove Christ's divinity.
King James is usually attacked by people that are simply homosexuals or religion haters. Oh, they've got every excuse in the book. Pun intended.
New American Standard has several errors that actually prompted one translator to disavow it, but if you are aware of those errors ahead of time it is still the most mature translation. The heresies it contains are more prominent in other translations, things like saying "his mother and father" instead of "Joseph and His mother", which if quoted from 500 years from now will spawn sects using it to debate Christ's divinity. The point is, you will have problems if you still believe the bible is 100% infallible Word Of God, which is not very mature, considering that the bible itself says "the lying pen of the scribes hath falsified it". So if you accept that it is NOT infallible, New American Standard is probably the best.
My favorite bible I ever had was "The Parallel New Testament And Unger's Bible Handbook". Nice bible, KJV and NASB side by side, with Ungar's interpretation for when you can't seem to make your own.
RSV is too dumbed down. Living Bible is a joke, deliberately misinterpretting that homo king david's story to make him look straight, saying that he "shook hands" with the other man when it clearly says he *kissed* him, etc.
biblegateway.com
plug in your favorite scripture passages, then view various translations, and pick the one you like. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 555082
11/20/2008 2:52 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
NIV -New International Version is the easiest to read
That's the Catholic version, lol, ahhhh, the Catholics.
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No, that would be the King James Version.
Sorry mopar but NIV is part of the edition that took place at the council of nicea 364AD.
But don't fret, I'm sure those catholics know what they're doing, little boy lovers usually do. Take for instance all the knowledge we got from the ancient Greeks. Quoting: Frank Rook 554525
The KJV and NIV are both Protestant translations.
The old KJV (the old Authorized version) is a very good literal translation. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546967 (OP)
11/20/2008 3:07 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
[ link to www.genevabible.org]
Nice shot. You hit the credible link. I just checked to make sure you didn;t get the distraction links... 
where can one purchase this as an actual book?
it feels strange reading bible online. I like to hold it in my hand.
I was looking at one with lambskin but it's expensive 60 dollars.
it's the esv version which I read is very easy to understand, yet retains alot of the meaning. It was commissioned in 2001
I think I might go with a newer book, since I read the newer translations often have the new documents in the past 30 years that have been discovered. Then added to the text
but part of me doubts the whole thing...who wrote all this stuff over the last 600 years? seriously..it could have been a satanist for all we know in some of the books, altering things. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546967 (OP)
11/20/2008 3:10 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
I have a wild hair to pick up the good book after 20 years. Which version or translation is the best?
I notice now there is english standard version, ESV.
I read the NASB book years ago and found it poetic yet still easy to follow unlike King james.
whats the scoop?
I don't go to church, not exactly religious either. But I enjoy reading the Bible sometimes
Read the books that were excluded or deleted from the bible. They are a much better read and if they were censored by being removed you've got to know they are the ones with information that the religions don't want you to have...
that is my suggestion. or, just get a bible with the words of Christ in red and read only the red words... a MUCH more clear and accurate connection with what He came to teach us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493706
like some of the Torah books with just the old testament?
I am a noob |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554360
11/20/2008 3:11 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
NIV -New International Version is the easiest to read
Hi Mopar,
they have turned the NIV into virtual hamburger. There is alot of stuff missing from it. However, we were warned this would happen as it is written "If any man adds to or subtracts from the words of this book, so also shall his name be subtracted from the book of life". Many people ask "is once saved always saved" and there is your answer. A loud resounding no.
The best bible versions you can use are as follows
Tyndale 1534
Geneva 1560
Geneva 1599 - Preferable. Both Geneva's used Tyndale for their foundation - In their notes they identified Pope Boniface who proclaimed himself to be God with Unam Sanctum and reestablished the Jubilee in 1302
King James Version 1611 - Great translation but notes are government endorsed
The Life Application NIV is published by Zondervan who is owned by Harper Collins and Rupert Murdoch. Harper collins publishes the Satanic Bible and the teachings of Anton Lavey. Do some research but here is just one link to get you started.
Go with the Geneva 1599. Read the notes and your view of where we are in the prophetic timeline will never be the same...
In Yeshua,
3DR Quoting: 3rdDayRising
Would you please you provide my-self and others any supporting materials? I am interested learning this point of view. Do you have the means of further elaborating for us regarding the latter points made in your statement for the intellectuals in the crowed?
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Isaac Brock died for us
User ID: 552558
11/20/2008 3:18 AM
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I was actually most impressed with the Jehovah's Witness - New World translation. (WTH the Hare Krishnas are said to have the best translation of the Bhagavad Gita.)
Myself I read the OT in the original Hebrew. My Stone Edition has, besides an English translation, an Aramaic translation because that was the first translation and hence closest in time to the original sense of the words. Some of the ancient Hebrew usages were already lost even in Jesus day.
Even the Hebrew is in a sense a translation because the original Torah at Sinai was given without breaks between the words - like this:
eventhehebrewisinasenseatranslationbecausetheoriginaltorah atsinaiwasgivenwithoutbreaksbetweenthewords
The spaces were added later.
The last time I was in Jerusalem I used to visit with a madman who live in a cardboard box outside the Prime Ministers residence. He could read the Hebrew and pull the most surprising things out by changing the word spacing.
owner of an extensive collection of curios from the exotic orient |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554360
11/20/2008 3:19 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
I have a wild hair to pick up the good book after 20 years. Which version or translation is the best?
I notice now there is english standard version, ESV.
I read the NASB book years ago and found it poetic yet still easy to follow unlike King james.
whats the scoop?
I don't go to church, not exactly religious either. But I enjoy reading the Bible sometimes
Read the books that were excluded or deleted from the bible. They are a much better read and if they were censored by being removed you've got to know they are the ones with information that the religions don't want you to have...
that is my suggestion. or, just get a bible with the words of Christ in red and read only the red words... a MUCH more clear and accurate connection with what He came to teach us.
like some of the Torah books with just the old testament?
I am a noob Quoting: Anonymous Coward 546967
The Naked Bible
"What biblical theology looks like in its ancient context, freed from denominational confessions and theological systems."
[link to michaelsheiser.com]
[link to michaelsheiser.com]
[link to michaelsheiser.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546967 (OP)
11/20/2008 3:23 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
Thanks I will read Daniel and Revelation out of Geneva to get it a feel since these are my favorite books out of the Bible.
I would like to purchase Geneva as a physical book. Is this even possible? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546967 (OP)
11/20/2008 3:26 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
heh nm I founda copy online on amazon. 39.99 imitation leather..but no big deal. I think I will order it and ESV to compare. |
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Isaac Brock died for us
User ID: 552558
11/20/2008 3:30 AM
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Here's an example.
Bereshit borah Elohim eth hashomayim v'eth haeretz.(in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.)
could be read
b'rosh it borah Elohim etc. (the principle fact is God created the heaven and the earth)
owner of an extensive collection of curios from the exotic orient |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554360
11/20/2008 3:31 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
heh nm I founda copy online on amazon. 39.99 imitation leather..but no big deal. I think I will order it and ESV to compare. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 546967
Here's intellectual expose an entire matter that intertines what is discussed here. Please read with due consideration:
AN EXEGETICAL ANALYSIS ON THE CORRELATIONS BETWEEN
BIBLICAL DEMONOLOGY AND CONTEMPORARY UFOLOGY
[link to www.ryanmcginty.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546121
11/20/2008 3:32 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
[ link to www.genevabible.org]
Nice shot. You hit the credible link. I just checked to make sure you didn;t get the distraction links...
where can one purchase this as an actual book?
it feels strange reading bible online. I like to hold it in my hand.
I was looking at one with lambskin but it's expensive 60 dollars.
it's the esv version which I read is very easy to understand, yet retains alot of the meaning. It was commissioned in 2001
I think I might go with a newer book, since I read the newer translations often have the new documents in the past 30 years that have been discovered. Then added to the text
but part of me doubts the whole thing...who wrote all this stuff over the last 600 years? seriously..it could have been a satanist for all we know in some of the books, altering things.
Get a ebook reader. As for actual books try ebay or your local christian bookstore. I think borders might sell them to but maybe not. |
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MuadDib987
User ID: 553914
11/20/2008 3:40 AM
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Here's an example.
Bereshit borah Elohim eth hashomayim v'eth haeretz.(in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.)
could be read
b'rosh it borah Elohim etc. (the principle fact is God created the heaven and the earth) Quoting: Isaac Brock died for us
Reminds me of some very interesting gemetria/mathematical stuff allegedly found in Genesis 1:1. . .
[link to www.whatabeginning.com]
[link to homepage.virgin.net]
(main page: The Other Bible Code)
Our cat has whatever it's called when your owner can't trick you into climbing inside the freezer. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 523665
11/20/2008 3:43 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
the real GOD speaks with human languages
the real DOG speaks with animal languages
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554241
11/20/2008 3:44 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
the real GOD speaks with human languages
the real DOG speaks with animal languages
start over
back to the drawing board |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554360
11/20/2008 3:51 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
the real GOD speaks with human languages
the real DOG speaks with animal languages
Enough of your Gnostic-watcher-theology.
The fallen watchers have you by the soul... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553308
11/20/2008 3:54 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
NIV -New International Version is the easiest to read
That's the Catholic version, lol, ahhhh, the Catholics.
No, that would be the King James Version. Quoting: mopar28m
Wow... I finally found something that I TOTALLY disagree with Mopar on. |
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J
User ID: 554241
11/20/2008 4:06 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
NIV -New International Version is the easiest to read
That's the Catholic version, lol, ahhhh, the Catholics.
No, that would be the King James Version.
Wow... I finally found something that I TOTALLY disagree with Mopar on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553308
But you're both wrong. The NIV is made from the Catholic manuscripts. It is a fact.
The Geneva is near identicle to the KJV
The NIV was made with cokpletely different manuscripts, it was the Catholic manuscripts.
[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
[link to www.febc.edu.sg]
The Bible
[link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 521654
11/20/2008 4:08 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
I suggest you go with the NIV version. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546967 (OP)
11/20/2008 4:11 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
why because I come off as a non-intellectual?
I honestly don't read philosophy or anything like that
I guess Dirk pitt novels are about as smart as I get
just a wild hair. Thanks all for the suggestions, I will decide and order something. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553308
11/20/2008 4:13 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
I was actually most impressed with the Jehovah's Witness - New World translation. (WTH the Hare Krishnas are said to have the best translation of the Bhagavad Gita.)
Myself I read the OT in the original Hebrew. My Stone Edition has, besides an English translation, an Aramaic translation because that was the first translation and hence closest in time to the original sense of the words. Some of the ancient Hebrew usages were already lost even in Jesus day.
Even the Hebrew is in a sense a translation because the original Torah at Sinai was given without breaks between the words - like this:
eventhehebrewisinasenseatranslationbecausetheoriginaltorah atsinaiwasgivenwithoutbreaksbetweenthewords
The spaces were added later.
The last time I was in Jerusalem I used to visit with a madman who live in a cardboard box outside the Prime Ministers residence. He could read the Hebrew and pull the most surprising things out by changing the word spacing. Quoting: Isaac Brock died for us
Are you out of your mind? The JW's wrote the New World translation with the intention of eliminating the divinity of Christ.
Do some research into Wescott and Hort. |
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Seneca 
User ID: 555081
11/20/2008 4:15 AM
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Here's what I use:
The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English, by Sir Lancelot C. L. Brenton
The Zondervan Parallel New Testament in Greek and English
The Zondervan has the interlinear Greek-English with Greek variants in the footnotes, and the KJV and NIV for comparison. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 553308
11/20/2008 4:16 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
NIV -New International Version is the easiest to read
That's the Catholic version, lol, ahhhh, the Catholics.
No, that would be the King James Version.
Wow... I finally found something that I TOTALLY disagree with Mopar on.
But you're both wrong. The NIV is made from the Catholic manuscripts. It is a fact.
The Geneva is near identicle to the KJV
The NIV was made with cokpletely different manuscripts, it was the Catholic manuscripts.
[ link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
[ link to www.febc.edu.sg]
The Bible
[ link to www.youtube.com]
LOL...
I'm wrong about WHAT?
I simply disagree with Mopar about the KJV being the "Catholic version". Just because they decided what books would be canonized, does not mean that they TRANSLATED the manuscripts! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 493706
11/20/2008 4:16 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
I have a wild hair to pick up the good book after 20 years. Which version or translation is the best?
I notice now there is english standard version, ESV.
I read the NASB book years ago and found it poetic yet still easy to follow unlike King james.
whats the scoop?
I don't go to church, not exactly religious either. But I enjoy reading the Bible sometimes
Read the books that were excluded or deleted from the bible. They are a much better read and if they were censored by being removed you've got to know they are the ones with information that the religions don't want you to have...
that is my suggestion. or, just get a bible with the words of Christ in red and read only the red words... a MUCH more clear and accurate connection with what He came to teach us.
like some of the Torah books with just the old testament?
I am a noob Quoting: Anonymous Coward 546967
when you read, whatever version, do it with your specific intent in mind...let God know you are seeking, that you don't want to be mislead and that you want a revelation for yourself OF yourself...you'll get it if you seek it. steer clear of trying to read in the context of a religious doctrine, that's out moded, corrupted and about to be revealed for the lies they contain...with that said,
i can't recommend the book of Enoch enough... it is an eye opener for sure.
here is a list of the hidden books, removed through the years or discovered via the dead sea scrolls and such... all are available online, check your book store for print versions... most of all, enjoy and realize that the sacred texts are simply keys to help unlock what is already within...
The First Book of Adam and Eve
The Second Book of Adam and Eve
The Book of the Secrets of Enoch
The Psalms of Solomon
The Odes of Solomon
The Letter of Aristeas
Fourth Book of Maccabees
The Story of Ahikar
The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
Testament of Reuben
Testament of Simeon
Testament of Levi
The Testament of Judah
The Testament of Issachar
The Testament of Zebulun
The Testament of Dan
The Testament of Naphtali
The Testament Of Gad
The Testament of Asher
The Testament of Joseph
The Testament of Benjamin |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546967 (OP)
11/20/2008 4:23 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
has anyone read the Qur'an at all here? I found this version online. Was written by a Female though, which I find funny. Since Islam is so against women in power for anything except house work it seems.
he Holy Quran, Seventh Edition (Leather Bound)
[link to www.amazon.com]
just for giggles. Never looked at it myself. |
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J
User ID: 554241
11/20/2008 4:25 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
NIV -New International Version is the easiest to read
That's the Catholic version, lol, ahhhh, the Catholics.
No, that would be the King James Version.
Wow... I finally found something that I TOTALLY disagree with Mopar on.
But you're both wrong. The NIV is made from the Catholic manuscripts. It is a fact.
The Geneva is near identicle to the KJV
The NIV was made with cokpletely different manuscripts, it was the Catholic manuscripts.
[ link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]
[ link to www.febc.edu.sg]
The Bible
[ link to www.youtube.com]
LOL...
I'm wrong about WHAT?
I simply disagree with Mopar about the KJV being the "Catholic version". Just because they decided what books would be canonized, does not mean that they TRANSLATED the manuscripts!
Well if you disagree with Mopar I read wrong.
The RCC neither canonized nor use the same manuscripts as the KJV. |
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J
User ID: 554241
11/20/2008 4:28 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
when you read, whatever version, do it with your specific intent in mind...let God know you are seeking, that you don't want to be mislead and that you want a revelation for yourself OF yourself...you'll get it if you seek it. steer clear of trying to read in the context of a religious doctrine, that's out moded, corrupted and about to be revealed for the lies they contain...with that said,
i can't recommend the book of Enoch enough... it is an eye opener for sure.
here is a list of the hidden books, removed through the years or discovered via the dead sea scrolls and such... all are available online, check your book store for print versions... most of all, enjoy and realize that the sacred texts are simply keys to help unlock what is already within...
The First Book of Adam and Eve
The Second Book of Adam and Eve
The Book of the Secrets of Enoch
The Psalms of Solomon
The Odes of Solomon
The Letter of Aristeas
Fourth Book of Maccabees
The Story of Ahikar
The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
Testament of Reuben
Testament of Simeon
Testament of Levi
The Testament of Judah
The Testament of Issachar
The Testament of Zebulun
The Testament of Dan
The Testament of Naphtali
The Testament Of Gad
The Testament of Asher
The Testament of Joseph
The Testament of Benjamin Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493706
Unlike the bible these books are uninspired gnostic books out of pagan egypt. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 546967 (OP)
11/20/2008 4:51 AM | | Re: which Bible version? | Quote |
how about
The New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha, Augmented Third Edition
[link to www.amazon.com]
2400 pages..sounds interesting. But could be false works who knows. |
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