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BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8
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Elias 
Waiting for the FAA inspector who is God.
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11/19/2008 10:04 PM
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SAN FRANCISCO — Responding to pleas for legal clarity from those on both sides of the issue, the California Supreme Court said Wednesday that it would take up the case of whether a voter-approved ban on same-sex unions was constitutional.
The court, however, stopped short of suspending the ban, which California voters passed as Proposition 8 two weeks ago after an expensive and hard-fought campaign.
The proposition, which overturned a May decision of the California Supreme Court that legalized same-sex marriage, has been challenged by a number of cities and civil rights groups, which say it is a substantial revision of the state’s Constitution, and therefore requires legislative approval.
In agreeing Wednesday to take the case, the court suggested in a two-page order signed by six of its seven justices that it would take up that question, as well as lingering questions over the legality of some 18,000 same-sex marriages performed in the state this year. Those ceremonies were halted after Proposition 8 passed.
The court has also been asked to consider whether same-sex couples are being denied equal protection under the state’s Constitution. An amendment banning same-sex marriages has never been challenged in a state where the marriages had been legal.
Dennis Herrera, the city attorney of San Francisco, a petitioner in the case who opposes the ban, said, “I have confidence that this court is going to make this decision on the facts and on the law.”
Supporters of the ban said they were pleased that the court had declined to suspend the ban.
“This is a great day for the rule of law and the voters of California,” said Andrew Pugno, general counsel for Protect Marriage, the leading group behind the effort to pass the ballot measure, which received 52 percent of the vote. “This order means that voters will get their day in court.”
The first legal briefs are due Dec. 19, with a reply from opponents of the ban due in early January. Oral arguments are expected to be heard in March.
[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2008 10:16 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
overturned more quickly than the ban against selling violent vid games to kids
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The Pasty Honkey
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11/19/2008 10:18 PM
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Hmmmmm
Don't care one way or the other, but it wouldn't be prudent or right to overturn voters desires.
Citizens are the bread and butter and are the voice of the majority. If abusive courts deny the voters desires, those people could move out.
If enough move out, state revenue would fall in an already bankrupt state, causing problems with those left behind. This not to mention jepordize the state courts payrolls.
It's all a cycle. The system MUST be run by the majority no matter the consequences. If the minority voice rules, bad things happen.
History proves this over and over. |
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Doomer
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11/19/2008 10:20 PM
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Just another example of the left only being for democracy when it works in their favor. Every vote counts, unless we don't agree.
"Trust but verify"
"Comparing themselves with themselves, they do not understand"
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" |
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Elias
Waiting for the FAA inspector who is God.
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11/19/2008 10:25 PM
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One word TYRANY.
“The higher we soar, the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.”
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Existence is Futile
...the Red Pill and the Blue Pill
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11/19/2008 10:28 PM
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I fucking guarantee you that 10% or more of the people voted against gay marriage accidentally because they got confused by the wording and actually thought they were voting for gay marriage.
“I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
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Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2008 10:29 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
they need the money........marriage license fees |
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Doomer
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11/19/2008 10:30 PM
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I fucking guarantee you that 10% or more of the people voted against gay marriage accidentally because they got confused by the wording and actually thought they were voting for gay marriage. Quoting: Existence is Futile
Right, because California is a bastion of neo cons
"Trust but verify"
"Comparing themselves with themselves, they do not understand"
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" |
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Doomer
User ID: 532341
11/19/2008 10:31 PM
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I love it. The people can't be this stupid. They didnt mean to vote that way. Lets get rid of it.
"Trust but verify"
"Comparing themselves with themselves, they do not understand"
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2008 10:40 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
they overturned it once before, they'll do it again, as they should. |
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Elias
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11/19/2008 10:42 PM
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Just like the amnesty subject. They will keep voting on it until it passes somehow. This is the new AMERIKA.
TYRANY.
“The higher we soar, the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Elias
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11/19/2008 10:43 PM
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Just like the amnesty subject. They will keep voting on it until it passes somehow. This is the new AMERIKA.
TYRANY. Quoting: Elias
Democracy is dead.
“The higher we soar, the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.”
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canislatrans
Coyote
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11/19/2008 10:45 PM
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Segregation was voted in favor for until the courts had to repeal it as unconstitutional. Same goes for Prop 8, unconstitutional. Just because the majority votes for it doesn't mean it is right, or constitutional.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. |
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Elias
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11/19/2008 10:51 PM
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Segregation was voted in favor for until the courts had to repeal it as unconstitutional. Same goes for Prop 8, unconstitutional. Just because the majority votes for it doesn't mean it is right, or constitutional. Quoting: canislatrans
This subject, like abortion, runs deep with each individual. In this case, with all due respect, I agree to disagree.
“The higher we soar, the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2008 11:09 PM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
I do not understand how the court can rule on this. Shouldn't they have done so before it was put on the ballot? |
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milehighmike
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11/19/2008 11:39 PM
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Segregation was voted in favor for until the courts had to repeal it as unconstitutional. Same goes for Prop 8, unconstitutional. Just because the majority votes for it doesn't mean it is right, or constitutional. Quoting: canislatrans
Why isn't it "right" or "constitutional"?
While I am NOT homophobic, I DON'T support "gay marriage". I don't have a problem with civil unions but the gay community doesn't merely want "equal rights", they want "separate and special rights"! I'm tired of them trying to jam their agenda down my throat every time I turn on the TV, schools, the media. It WON'T end here, regardless how this turns out, I can promise you that!
"Government doesn't work. You work, I work, Federal Express works, Microsoft works, the Salvation Army works, Alcoholics Anonymous works, but government doesn't" Harry Browne
"It is amazing how many people think that the government's role is to give them what they want by overriding what other people want" Thomas Sowell
"People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them, make them."
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Anonymous Coward
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11/20/2008 12:03 AM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
Just another example of the left only being for democracy when it works in their favor. Every vote counts, unless we don't agree. Quoting: Doomer
you are right imagine if black rights was put on the ballot? seperation of church and state only white christains would have rights. human rights should never be put on the ballot im not gay i dont know any gays but limiting human rights just seems wrong and immoral. |
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canislatrans
Coyote
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11/20/2008 12:43 AM
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While I am NOT homophobic, I DON'T support "gay marriage". I don't have a problem with civil unions but the gay community doesn't merely want "equal rights", they want "separate and special rights"! I'm tired of them trying to jam their agenda down my throat every time I turn on the TV, schools, the media. It WON'T end here, regardless how this turns out, I can promise you that! Quoting: milehighmike
Step 1: Remove all government regulation regarding "marriage". (separation of church and state)
Step 2: Allow government to issue 'civil unions' between ALL couples, gay or straight, that offer all the current benefits having a marriage currently provides. No marriage is necessary to receive this civil union, all couples of any kind are welcome to be recognized as a couple as they please(life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness).
Step 3: Allow churches or other organizations to marry couples as they choose, following within the guidelines of that particular church's beliefs regarding marriage. Don't want to marry gays? Not a problem. Gays can marry at churches that accept them, no church has to be forced to perform a marriage that does not coincide with their religious beliefs. (freedom of religion)
Step 4: Be happy with your own marriage and government civil union that provides the same opportunity and benefits to all couples who live in this country we call America. (let freedom ring)
Step 5: Profit.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/20/2008 12:48 AM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
Segregation was voted in favor for until the courts had to repeal it as unconstitutional. Same goes for Prop 8, unconstitutional. Just because the majority votes for it doesn't mean it is right, or constitutional. Quoting: canislatrans
how soon people forget. the MAJORITY voted to keep blacks down, the MAJORITY voted to keep women from voting. the courts had to make the right decision since the MAJORITY is told what is right and wrong not by their brains or souls, but by the church. |
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Rota
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11/20/2008 1:06 AM
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No reason to have any laws anymore. If the communist liberals don't laike a law they just ignore it. Let the gays marry. Let all the illegals come in and give them anything they want and don't even think about taxing them. Let Wall street steal everything and don't charge any of them. Lock all pot smokers up and keep laws against drugs because the elite make lots of money off illegal drugs. Lets keep invading any country israel wants us too and we should threaten to nuke anyone that doesn't like it. And lets keep killing unborn babies because it pisses god off. Kaos is good....law and order are bad. |
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Matrix
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11/20/2008 1:10 AM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
Segregation was voted in favor for until the courts had to repeal it as unconstitutional. Same goes for Prop 8, unconstitutional. Just because the majority votes for it doesn't mean it is right, or constitutional.
Why isn't it "right" or "constitutional"?
While I am NOT homophobic, I DON'T support "gay marriage". I don't have a problem with civil unions but the gay community doesn't merely want "equal rights", they want "separate and special rights"....! Quoting: milehighmike
Everybody keep saying they want equality, but really when you fight something, its a winner take all mentality every time. No matter how much they keep saying they are only doing it to be equal, when something becomes a battle, the best defense is a good offense; so the only way to keep your victory is to keep opponents down not equal. They may say that they will only stop when equality is achieved, but how the goal posts keep moving(not getting their way democratically) I am afraid they will not stop until they are no longer challenged, even if democracy is sacrificed in the process. |
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Matrix
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11/20/2008 1:20 AM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
The gay community thinks this a battle to be won, the rest see it as voicing our opinions, not gaining everything but our freedom of speech, so democracy is no longer regarded by them as a constitutional method of letting the world know where we stand. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/20/2008 4:54 AM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
IT IS A BATTLE TO BE WON!
AND WE WILL, IN TIME, WIN IT!
WE DON'T WANT 'SPECIAL' RIGHTS! WE DEMAND EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW AND WE WILL GET THEM!!
YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELVES IF YOU THINK A BUNCH OF BIBLE THUMPING CULT-ASS MORMONS ARE GOING TO RULE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WITH THEIR CHECKBOOKS! AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
THE COURT WILL TAKE THEIR TIME, CONSIDER THE FACTS, AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES INVOLVED. THEN THEY WILL OVERTURN PROPOSITION EIGHT OR THEY'LL FACE A RECALL CAMPAIGN THEY KNOW IS IN THE WINGS WAITING TO BE TURNED UP SHOULD THEY FAIL TO ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE US AND THE STATE.
THIS PIECE OF SHIT BEING PLACED ON THE BALLOT WAS IN AND OF ITSELF ILLEGAL. IT'S DISCRIMINATORY AND ILLEGAL. NOW IT WILL BE STOPPED ONCE AND FOR ALL.
IF WE ALLOW THIS TO STAND, THE NEXT THING PLACED ON THE BALLOT MAY BE TO OUTLAW MEXICAN'S LIVING IN CERTAIN AREAS, OR JEWS OWNING PROPERTY, OR WORSE! HOW LONG UNTIL THEY COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT EFFECTS YOU DIRECTLY? THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE IS USUALLY WRONG ON THESE ISSUES AND HISTORY BEARS THAT OUT. THINK MAN! THINK! |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/20/2008 5:08 AM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
It will be overturned under the 'equal protection' clauses of BOTH the California AND U.S. Constitutions.
And Christians (I'd SAY stupid ones, but that's redundant) will go ballistic!
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ThePatriotMind
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11/20/2008 5:13 AM | | Re: BREAKING: SUPREME COURT IN CALIFORNIA TO REVIEW PROP 8 | Quote |
IF THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT OVERRULES THE PEOPLE and the LEGAL CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THEY VOTED FOR ....
THIS WILL CONFIRM THAT AMERICA IS NOW NO LONGER FREE
and that we now live in what ILL CALL A
JUDICIAL-OCRACY
I made that word up but it seems america now is controlled by unelected Lifetime appointed Federal and state judges
heh i think ill post that
Signed
The Patriot Mind
PLEASE VISIT MY BLOG for some great videos and reading .... partucularly if your interested in our BANKING SYSTEM and the FEDERAL RESERVE
www.ThePatriotMind.blogspot.com |
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