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SUNDAY'S SERMON: There is no "God" and WE are immortal, spiritual beings

 
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At least not in the way we've been taught. My belief (and yes, it's my belief, just as religions hold a belief yet have no proof of anything) is that we are self-existent and do not need a creator because we've created this universe, or multiple, infinite other universes ourselves. Believers in a god say that he/she/it is simply self-existent, i.e. always was with no beginning and no end. Why cannot this logice apply to us? We likely choose to come here, in this extremely limiting environment, in order to experience what we cannot experience as eternal, spiritual beings.
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show us your proof!
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JESUS CREATED THE UNIVERSE WHEN HE SPOKE IT. THUS ALl RESIDED IN HIM.
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We likely choose to come here, in this extremely limiting environment, in order to experience what we cannot experience as eternal, spiritual beings.
 Quoting: Mickey Martian

Very well put, OP. The sole purpose of life is experience -> evolution.

God is all there is IMO, you, me, us, everything, there is no difference because WE ALL ARE.
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There is a TRUE CREATOR(S) source!!

The lie is who and what we have been taught as to who it is!!

It IS NOT the biblical christian god, YHVH!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

We all have that spark/spirit that is holy, this isn't some christian specialty, and a more accurate of terminology for the aforementioned event, would be AWAKENED!!
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U r so right! Now repeat after me!

There is no god! But GOD (ALLAH)
And MOHAMMED(Peace be upon him & his pure progeny) is the prophet of GOD!
And ALI(A.S) is a friend of GOD, and the helper of the prophet and a successor to the prophet.

SALAM ALLY KUM! (PEACE BE UPON YOU)

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A fool says in his heart, there is no god.
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As a scientist, I disagree. This the make-up of our, dna, planet, universe, is far to complex to be an accident. Someone or something extremley intelligent must have set it in motion. Like all things in science, God is a theory until proven to be true. Use common sence.
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As a scientist, I disagree. This the make-up of our, dna, planet, universe, is far to complex to be an accident. Someone or something extremley intelligent must have set it in motion. Like all things in science, God is a theory until proven to be true. Use common sence.
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Do you understand what OP says? Of course all this is no accident, but does it require some uber space daddy? That assumption is outrageously stupid and arrogant.
We are all God.
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so us your proof!
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I never said I had proof...it's just a logical conclusion...I don't see why there has to be a creator. Our spirits are eternal, so why not our existence? And if we've been around that long, why couldn't we possess the ability to create our own reality, even with the agreement of billions of others?
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There are four causes of infidelity and loss of belief in GOD: hankering after whims, a passion to dispute every argument, deviation from truth; and dissension, because whoever hankers after whims does not incline towards truth; whoever keeps on disputing every argument on account of his ignorance, will always remain blind to truth, whoever deviates from truth because of ignorance, will always take good for evil and evil for good and he will always remain intoxicated with misguidance. And whoever makes a breach (with GOD and His Messenger) his path becomes difficult, his affairs will become complicated and his way to salvation will be uncertain.

Similarly, doubt has also four aspects absurd reason- ing; fear; vacillation and hesitation; and unreasonable surrender to infidelity, because one who has accustomed himself to unreasonable and absurd discussions will never see the Light of Truth and will always live in the darkness of ignorance. One who is afraid to face facts (of life, death and the life after death) will always turn away from ultimate reality, one who allows doubts and uncertainties to vacillate him will always be under the control of Satan and one who surrenders himself to infidelity accepts damnation in both the worlds.

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As a scientist, I disagree. This the make-up of our, dna, planet, universe, is far to complex to be an accident. Someone or something extremley intelligent must have set it in motion. Like all things in science, God is a theory until proven to be true. Use common sence.

Do you understand what OP says? Of course all this is no accident, but does it require some uber space daddy? That assumption is outrageously stupid and arrogant.
We are all God.
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Agreed.
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There are four causes of infidelity and loss of belief in GOD: hankering after whims, a passion to dispute every argument, deviation from truth; and dissension, because whoever hankers after whims does not incline towards truth; whoever keeps on disputing every argument on account of his ignorance, will always remain blind to truth, whoever deviates from truth because of ignorance, will always take good for evil and evil for good and he will always remain intoxicated with misguidance. And whoever makes a breach (with GOD and His Messenger) his path becomes difficult, his affairs will become complicated and his way to salvation will be uncertain.

Similarly, doubt has also four aspects absurd reason- ing; fear; vacillation and hesitation; and unreasonable surrender to infidelity, because one who has accustomed himself to unreasonable and absurd discussions will never see the Light of Truth and will always live in the darkness of ignorance. One who is afraid to face facts (of life, death and the life after death) will always turn away from ultimate reality, one who allows doubts and uncertainties to vacillate him will always be under the control of Satan and one who surrenders himself to infidelity accepts damnation in both the worlds.

PEACE 2 U ALL!

*****KEEP UR FRIEND CLOSE KEEP UR ENEMY CLOSER*****
 Quoting: nOOr 556386

Where the hell do you get this crap? First, there are many reasons people lose faith in god. Maybe thinking should be at the top of your list, because that usually does the trick. Once people dare think for themselves they're likely to find that the questions about god which were never answered could never be answered because there simply is no god. None of your "causes" for not believing in a god apply to me, nor do they apply to most people who have awakened to the fairy tale.

Your list sounds as though it comes straight from a preacher. They are all afraid of independent thought. They cannot comprehend the possibility that we are gods and can create reality, perhaps multiple realities simultaneously. Maybe their small, shallow thought process can't handle that distinct and very real possibility and therefore they can't imagine what could cause someone to give up a belief in god. The absurdity comes from a thoughtless belief in a "supreme being" where the question "why does there have to be a creator?" is never asked.

So, I ask again, if a god is self-existent, why cannot we also be self-existent and therefore an eternal, creative force? We are in this world now because we chose to be here for the experience. We also chose to forget who we really are because if we knew the truth, we would likely bail out fast and miss the experience.
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Having a body is the thing lately.
At least not in the way we've been taught. My belief (and yes, it's my belief, just as religions hold a belief yet have no proof of anything) is that we are self-existent and do not need a creator because we've created this universe, or multiple, infinite other universes ourselves. Believers in a god say that he/she/it is simply self-existent, i.e. always was with no beginning and no end. Why cannot this logice apply to us? We likely choose to come here, in this extremely limiting environment, in order to experience what we cannot experience as eternal, spiritual beings.
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The Source is the creator of our Spiritual Body, and of the Laws that allow our Universe to function. However I do agree that we are eternal spiritual beings who use the material realm to learn and grow in over many many incarnations. Our goal, which we will all reach at some point in eternity, is to become totally enlightened both intelligently and morally.
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More and more people are waking up to the fact that the religion we have been spoon fed is false.

It is wonderful!
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As long as we FORGET the WHOLENESS of DIVIITY we are
lost in a miasma of disillusion destined to seek our
SPIRITUAL CORE by setting up life situations that
CHALLENGE our need to GO WITHIN and RECONNECT to the
other side of DIVINITY.

recognition of the two sides of our WHOLENESS by the
worlds masses will cause a shift in energies to BALANCE
and loss of the need to fight each other, replaced by a
mutual need to care for and support each other, and no
more WARS.



Reads simple but TRY to apply in your daily activities.
It means giving up PATRIARCHAL RELIGIONS that were invented to seperate us and teach us to HATE.

It means re-learning to TRUST your own INNER BEING
is and always was perfect and a mirror of UNIVERSAL DIVINE SOURCE/ god/goddess/ONENESS.


When each of us remembers we are ONE, we can let go of a NEED for an " out there myth god punisher" and be CONTENT with our own DIVINE NATURE. SC


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Excerpt:


Another beautiful passage likens Wisdom to “a flame of stars through the night.” [Allegro, 171] The praise-names in the Book of Wisdom of Solomon resonate deeply with those in the goddess litanies of India. The most celebrated of these is the Sri Lalitaa Sahasranama, an invocation of Goddess under a thousand names, including Intelligence, Holy, Unique, Multiformed, Subtle, Pure, Beyond All Danger, Loving the Good, Beneficence, Steady, Without Anxiety, Great Power, and All-Pervasive.

Long’s illuminating exegesis of the Alexandrian Wisdom litany brings forward the little-known fact that the Greek name monogenes (“unique, singly born”) began as a title of female divinities. It originates in a Kemetic title of Neit, Hathor and Isis: “self-born, self-produced,” and later appears in Orphic hymns to Demeter, Persephone and Athena. Christians subsequently applied it to Yeshua of Nazareth who was cast as the “only-begotten son” of god. [Long, 49]

In late antiquity other titles arose in the Judaic tradition: Shekhinah (Divine Presence) and Matronit (the Mother). Kabbalists redefined Khokhmah as a masculine power, and assigned Binah (Understanding) to the feminine sphere. Torah became to some extent a personification of Wisdom, and Jews in many countries invited Shabbat to enter their homes as the bride of god and the essence of peace and joy.

There is not room here to enter the Egyptian Stream of Wisdom, but what follows can only be understood in the light of the veneration of Auset, known in Hellenistic culture as Isis. This goddess had come to be worshipped beyond the borders of Egypt, first in west Asia and north Africa, then in Europe. Isis aretalogies (praise-songs based on the affirmation “I am”) emphasize creative Wisdom as one of her divine qualities:


I am Isis, mistress of every land
I laid down laws for humanity and ordained
things that no one may change...
I divided the earth from the heavens
I made manifest the paths of the stars
I prescribed the course of the sun and moon
I found out the labors of the sea
I made justice mighty...

—Aretalogy of Isis from Cyme,
circa 200 CE [Drinker, 114]




A syncretic ferment of Egyptian, Greek and Hebrew traditions occurred in Alexandria and the eastern Mediterranean during the Roman empire. Jewish writers appear to have initiated a Greek series of Oracula Sibillina which begin to appear around 150 BCE. Philo Judaeus of Alexandria identified Sophia as Mother of the divine Logos and as Isis, mother of Horus. But Philo followed Biblical tradition in according primacy to the father-god as creator, treating the divine mother—Sophia — as his attribute or emanation. Nevertheless, he described this god as the husband of Wisdom. [Long, 46, 162; Patai, 98]


The pagan priest Plutarch agreed that Isis was the same as Sophia, creator of all. [Allegro, 157] Pagan mystery religions equated Isis with Demeter, Kybele, Juno Caelestis, Bona Dea, Tyche and other Mediterranean goddesses, mixing their attributes and titles. Isis was sculptured wearing the mural crown of the Asian goddess Tyche and holding the cornucopia of the Italian Fortuna and Terra Mater. (These statuettes have been found in distant Kazakhstan and Pakistan.) Multitudes of molded figurines of Isis seated on the basket of the Eleusinian Mysteries were mass-produced for home altars within Egypt itself.


Most of these Hellenized terracotta statuettes shrink the horned solar crown of the ancient Kemetic goddess and flank it with ears of wheat, assimilating her to Demeter in a historical double rebound. The Knot of Isis that was for millennia tied around her belly moves up to her breast in a tied Grecian shawl. Other terracottas show Isis Baubo with skirts pulled up around her hips and legs opened wide. Still others look to the headwaters of the Nile, as the goddess Besit, linked to the BaTwa peoples, socalled "pygmies," or perhaps to other little people (“dwarves”).


In the midst of this syncretism, many Isis terracottas retain the Egyptian convention showing her suckling her son (now represented as a sketchy afterthought). She also appears as Isis Bubastis -- Ermouthis to the Greeks -- with the lower part of her body in the form of a snake. This form of Isis has turned up as far east as Iraq.

[link to www.suppressedhistories.net]

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Here is a Q and A from another thread.

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Are the bloodlines that have been infused with the ancient wisdoms trying to become god’s themselves?

There is no need to try. Humanity needs to grow beyond the stagnating concept of "gods". The idea of "god" takes the Power out of your own hands, and places it upon some shadowy unknown figure, somewhere "out there". In other words, outside of yourself. Instead of "god", see "Creator".

So, there is no need to "try".

We already are Creators. And so are you. The only question is, will you Create Consciously, or sub-counsciously?
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Here is a Q and A from another thread.

[link to www.abovetopsecret.com]




Are the bloodlines that have been infused with the ancient wisdoms trying to become god’s themselves?

There is no need to try. Humanity needs to grow beyond the stagnating concept of "gods". The idea of "god" takes the Power out of your own hands, and places it upon some shadowy unknown figure, somewhere "out there". In other words, outside of yourself. Instead of "god", see "Creator".

So, there is no need to "try".

We already are Creators. And so are you. The only question is, will you Create Consciously, or sub-counsciously?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556613



...



So, there is no need to "try".

We already are Creators. And so are you. The only question is, will you Create Consciously, or sub-counsciously?



Beautiful ! Anonymous Coward 556613

The ACTION of TRYING is getting in the way
of just BEING which is necessary in ORDER to HEAR
your INNER CORE singing the music of the Spheres,

or the sound of the UNIVERSE in total balance
within YOU. From this base you can Co-create consciously.

and so it is.......



hf


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U r so right! Now repeat after me!

There is no god! But GOD (ALLAH)
And MOHAMMED(Peace be upon him & his pure progeny) is the prophet of GOD!
And ALI(A.S) is a friend of GOD, and the helper of the prophet and a successor to the prophet.

SALAM ALLY KUM! (PEACE BE UPON YOU)

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Superstitious rubbish
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There is a TRUE CREATOR(S) source!!

The lie is who and what we have been taught as to who it is!!

It IS NOT the biblical christian god, YHVH!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

We all have that spark/spirit that is holy, this isn't some christian specialty, and a more accurate of terminology for the aforementioned event, would be AWAKENED!!
 Quoting: HardTruth




Sorry to dissapoint both of you heathens, but the Bible God is the only true God, and you are about to see His great power soon, very soon as the work that I have done in the spirit will manifest in this physical universe. It is not going to be a happy day for heathen like yourself, it will be a day when you try to hide, as far from His Glory as you possibly can.

As for me, I'm going to be taking in the spoils of war from my defeated enemies, and taking control over the reigns of power on this wicked earth and create a paradise where war will no longer exist, just to show you wicked how a real Christian can rule over the earth with Stewardship and righteousness. And there are 6000 years of Bible prophecy to back me up, so good luck in trying to "fantasize" your own reality. But to the victor go the spoils.
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More and more people are waking up to the fact that the religion we have been spoon fed is false.

It is wonderful!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556553


It sure is wonderful!!! Neal Walsch's "Conversations With God" series is particularly educational and spiritually uplifting.

The Creator, he/she/it, is really us individuated! Therefore we are all gods always creating and recreating ourselves and our world into the next highest version of who we are. What a powerful feeling that should give us!! We are in control... even when it may not seem to be the case.. we are in control.
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There is a TRUE CREATOR(S) source!!

The lie is who and what we have been taught as to who it is!!

It IS NOT the biblical christian god, YHVH!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

We all have that spark/spirit that is holy, this isn't some christian specialty, and a more accurate of terminology for the aforementioned event, would be AWAKENED!!




Sorry to dissapoint both of you heathens, but the Bible God is the only true God, and you are about to see His great power soon, very soon as the work that I have done in the spirit will manifest in this physical universe. It is not going to be a happy day for heathen like yourself, it will be a day when you try to hide, as far from His Glory as you possibly can.

As for me, I'm going to be taking in the spoils of war from my defeated enemies, and taking control over the reigns of power on this wicked earth and create a paradise where war will no longer exist, just to show you wicked how a real Christian can rule over the earth with Stewardship and righteousness. And there are 6000 years of Bible prophecy to back me up, so good luck in trying to "fantasize" your own reality. But to the victor go the spoils.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 555261


You think very highly of yourself don't you..... ?

Well ... we will see ... I'd stake my life that are wrong...

What proof do you have that your "Bible God" really exists? And you cannot use the bible itself as proof, because it was brought through by man, who we all know is "imperfect" and a "sinner" (which of course is taught in the bible.)

PS a "true Christian" in my mind would not advocate war and destruction of humans .... you are not a good example if you think this way....just saying....
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
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There is a TRUE CREATOR(S) source!!

The lie is who and what we have been taught as to who it is!!

It IS NOT the biblical christian god, YHVH!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

We all have that spark/spirit that is holy, this isn't some christian specialty, and a more accurate of terminology for the aforementioned event, would be AWAKENED!!




Sorry to dissapoint both of you heathens, but the Bible God is the only true God, and you are about to see His great power soon, very soon as the work that I have done in the spirit will manifest in this physical universe. It is not going to be a happy day for heathen like yourself, it will be a day when you try to hide, as far from His Glory as you possibly can.

As for me, I'm going to be taking in the spoils of war from my defeated enemies, and taking control over the reigns of power on this wicked earth and create a paradise where war will no longer exist, just to show you wicked how a real Christian can rule over the earth with Stewardship and righteousness. And there are 6000 years of Bible prophecy to back me up, so good luck in trying to "fantasize" your own reality. But to the victor go the spoils.


You think very highly of yourself don't you..... ?

Well ... we will see ... I'd stake my life that are wrong...

What proof do you have that your "Bible God" really exists? And you cannot use the bible itself as proof, because it was brought through by man, who we all know is "imperfect" and a "sinner" (which of course is taught in the bible.)

PS a "true Christian" in my mind would not advocate war and destruction of humans .... you are not a good example if you think this way....just saying....
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Well, I have good reason to think highly of myself, if that is what I am truly doing , since you seem to be able to look into my heart. (not) First of all, God only wishes to reveal Himself to those whose hearts are perfect toward Him. and you do not qualify for that, so you do not "get your supernatural sign." "A wicked and perverse generation seeketh after a sign."

I absolutely do not advocate war or destruction of any humans, not one human life must be lost in my opinion, but the Nephilim are a different story. They wish to destroy all human life so that they are left with the resources of this planet to waste them away, so God called me and instructed me to destroy them from the earth so that peace and harmony can reign in righteousness. The refuge of lies brought on by the powers of darkness will fail, and the contract with death and hell will be annulled. I just wonder if you even have a clue as to what is really going on in the earth or who is really in control of it? I tend to doubt it on the basis of what you have written.

God does not reward a faithless and a perverse generation with signs or proof of His existence. As for me, I have all the "proof" that I need. The dying of Illuminati princes, and of the world's most powerful witches and vile filth are proof enough for me that what I do in the spirit will fully manifest in this physical dimension. And the meek shall inherit the earth. Do not mistake my confidence as pride, only God can judge the heart.
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The "bible" is based on a very old book of civil law and
other records of a city that was wiped out in a nuclear
battle.
Some desert rats picked up the remnants of the books
that had been kept in the City Center and a couple of
scribes among them rewrote the CIVIL LAWS as the word of
a god they invented and used the city records to claim
all the begets and begotens were of gods chosen
people when in actuality they were the records of
births in that City
.

many generations of scribes and religious fanatics
added layer by layer of silly tales so it is now mostly
gibberish

what stands out in it is the ORIGIAL CIVIL LAWS
on how to interact with neigbors and tradespeople,
families and city authorities.

CIVIL LAWS that are true for all humans and were fed back
to us as the laws of the invented god of the "chosen "
who are nothing more than desert dweller tribes in need
of a free income from scheming and lying so siezed an
opportunity to shuffle and redo the remains of the
books that didnt burn in the nuclear blast .

those schemers took all they had a modicum of
understanding about and made it to read as tho they
are speeeeeecial, a "chosen" people.



HEY ! if they rewrote a buncha pieces of books that had
belonged to a superior people why not claim its from a
god as they had originally believed those now scattered
or dead people to be and say that god is their very
own exclusive god who protects them from all who are
not of their tribe.

the beginning of the GREAT LIE that over 6,500 years has grown to destroy Nations and whole peoples.

Idol1



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There is a TRUE CREATOR(S) source!!

The lie is who and what we have been taught as to who it is!!

It IS NOT the biblical christian god, YHVH!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

We all have that spark/spirit that is holy, this isn't some christian specialty, and a more accurate of terminology for the aforementioned event, would be AWAKENED!!




Sorry to dissapoint both of you heathens, but the Bible God is the only true God, and you are about to see His great power soon, very soon as the work that I have done in the spirit will manifest in this physical universe. It is not going to be a happy day for heathen like yourself, it will be a day when you try to hide, as far from His Glory as you possibly can.

As for me, I'm going to be taking in the spoils of war from my defeated enemies, and taking control over the reigns of power on this wicked earth and create a paradise where war will no longer exist, just to show you wicked how a real Christian can rule over the earth with Stewardship and righteousness. And there are 6000 years of Bible prophecy to back me up, so good luck in trying to "fantasize" your own reality. But to the victor go the spoils.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 555261


To the victor goes the spoils...lol

Spoken like a true follower of your god(s) of war!!

...those who dwell on the earth that their ruin is accomplished because they have learnt all the secrets of the angels, and all the violence of the Satans, and all their powers -the most secret ones- and all the power of those who practice sorcery, and the power of witchcraft, and the power of those who make molten images. (Book of Enoch: Chapter 65, verse 6)

Satans = gods of war. It is only those that are extremely opposite of peace, love and harmony that would be defined as "Satans".

The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. (Ex 15:3)

I will never hide from your false god, bring him on!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)
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There is a TRUE CREATOR(S) source!!

The lie is who and what we have been taught as to who it is!!

It IS NOT the biblical christian god, YHVH!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

We all have that spark/spirit that is holy, this isn't some christian specialty, and a more accurate of terminology for the aforementioned event, would be AWAKENED!!




Sorry to dissapoint both of you heathens, but the Bible God is the only true God, and you are about to see His great power soon, very soon as the work that I have done in the spirit will manifest in this physical universe. It is not going to be a happy day for heathen like yourself, it will be a day when you try to hide, as far from His Glory as you possibly can.

As for me, I'm going to be taking in the spoils of war from my defeated enemies, and taking control over the reigns of power on this wicked earth and create a paradise where war will no longer exist, just to show you wicked how a real Christian can rule over the earth with Stewardship and righteousness. And there are 6000 years of Bible prophecy to back me up, so good luck in trying to "fantasize" your own reality. But to the victor go the spoils.
 Quoting: Wingedlion/Whiterider 555261


I would say you are insane but that doesn't solve the bigger problem that millions think the same way you do. The problem is religion and it gives people a reason to think they are different, superior, to others. If a person is predisposed to think that way, if they have an identity problem or are unsure about their manhood (or womanhood), they latch on to crap like religion because it gives them a reason for existing and empowers them with fairy-tale-like powers. It's sad they (and you) don't realize that this universe is much bigger than your imaginary friend would ever allow and that it holds more wonderous, good things than that same imaginary friend could ever provide. We are eternal, without your God. We are spiritual, without your God. We don't need a savior and we don't need tyranical, power-hungry maniacs trying to control our lives.

An eternity worshiping a warlike, evil, deadbeat-dad type of diety? I would hope not. Oh, and BTW, the "every knee shall bow" BS -- all I can say is just watch how pathetically wrong that will turn out to be...
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There is a TRUE CREATOR(S) source!!

The lie is who and what we have been taught as to who it is!!

It IS NOT the biblical christian god, YHVH!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

We all have that spark/spirit that is holy, this isn't some christian specialty, and a more accurate of terminology for the aforementioned event, would be AWAKENED!!




Sorry to dissapoint both of you heathens, but the Bible God is the only true God, and you are about to see His great power soon, very soon as the work that I have done in the spirit will manifest in this physical universe. It is not going to be a happy day for heathen like yourself, it will be a day when you try to hide, as far from His Glory as you possibly can.

As for me, I'm going to be taking in the spoils of war from my defeated enemies, and taking control over the reigns of power on this wicked earth and create a paradise where war will no longer exist, just to show you wicked how a real Christian can rule over the earth with Stewardship and righteousness. And there are 6000 years of Bible prophecy to back me up, so good luck in trying to "fantasize" your own reality. But to the victor go the spoils.


To the victor goes the spoils...lol

Spoken like a true follower of your god(s) of war!!

...those who dwell on the earth that their ruin is accomplished because they have learnt all the secrets of the angels, and all the violence of the Satans, and all their powers -the most secret ones- and all the power of those who practice sorcery, and the power of witchcraft, and the power of those who make molten images. (Book of Enoch: Chapter 65, verse 6)

Satans = gods of war. It is only those that are extremely opposite of peace, love and harmony that would be defined as "Satans".

The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. (Ex 15:3)

I will never hide from your false god, bring him on!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

 Quoting: HardTruth





There will come a time when you beg for mercy, and I will remind you of these words...just before you pick up your things and go into the streets where you will derive your meals out of a trash dumpster for the rest of your miserable life. There is no room in the Kingdom of God for falsehood and lies, especially of the type that you promote. You are the puppet for the powers that be, and they are the ones who are yanking your chain without your knowledge. Perhaps you would understand this better if you were in my shoes small man. You are a waste, an utter waste, and Satan laughs at every word you post. You have become the devils fool, so the devil's fool you shall remain.
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A man is a either a living soul or a walking corpse.
Many open minds should be closed for repairs

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There is a TRUE CREATOR(S) source!!

The lie is who and what we have been taught as to who it is!!

It IS NOT the biblical christian god, YHVH!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he out to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

We all have that spark/spirit that is holy, this isn't some christian specialty, and a more accurate of terminology for the aforementioned event, would be AWAKENED!!




Sorry to dissapoint both of you heathens, but the Bible God is the only true God, and you are about to see His great power soon, very soon as the work that I have done in the spirit will manifest in this physical universe. It is not going to be a happy day for heathen like yourself, it will be a day when you try to hide, as far from His Glory as you possibly can.

As for me, I'm going to be taking in the spoils of war from my defeated enemies, and taking control over the reigns of power on this wicked earth and create a paradise where war will no longer exist, just to show you wicked how a real Christian can rule over the earth with Stewardship and righteousness. And there are 6000 years of Bible prophecy to back me up, so good luck in trying to "fantasize" your own reality. But to the victor go the spoils.


I would say you are insane but that doesn't solve the bigger problem that millions think the same way you do. The problem is religion and it gives people a reason to think they are different, superior, to others. If a person is predisposed to think that way, if they have an identity problem or are unsure about their manhood (or womanhood), they latch on to crap like religion because it gives them a reason for existing and empowers them with fairy-tale-like powers. It's sad they (and you) don't realize that this universe is much bigger than your imaginary friend would ever allow and that it holds more wonderous, good things than that same imaginary friend could ever provide. We are eternal, without your God. We are spiritual, without your God. We don't need a savior and we don't need tyranical, power-hungry maniacs trying to control our lives.

An eternity worshiping a warlike, evil, deadbeat-dad type of diety? I would hope not. Oh, and BTW, the "every knee shall bow" BS -- all I can say is just watch how pathetically wrong that will turn out to be...
 Quoting: Mickey Martian





agree with you in part about the religion so far as religion is defined as a belief system created by man. Jesus never fared very well with the religious crowd of his day either; as a matter of fact, they were the ones responsible for His crucifixion. But what you haven't a clue about is the life and grace and power that is given to those who are born again by the Holy Spirit.

In that sense, you do not know God nor do you give any kind of accurate description of Him. In fact, if you would just believe the opposite of what you have said about Him you would be accurate. He is a God of war against the wicked, and against evil that threatens mankind. in that sense, you seem to be in total darkness. Even the acts of His Judgment are acts to protect mankind from destruction. He is the giver of life, He has every right to take it away from those who threaten His creation. That is why you will never be chosen for the big jobs of doing His will. Neither will you inherit the eternal rewards that I will for my obedience, because you are in such darkness and confusion as to the nature and intent of a loving God trying to protect you from the tyranny of the New World Order that has plans to destroy five sixths of mankind. Without someone like me to keep them from their goal, ignorant people like you would perish....Your Welcome!





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