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The Flood of Noah Was Not Worldwide

 
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The Flood of Noah Was Not Worldwide
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Introduction

The idea of a worldwide flood at the time of Noah is a misconception arising out of inexact translations and a misinterpretation of the biblical text. As supported by a correct translation and understanding of the biblical texts, history, archaeology, logic, and the best available scientific evidence, the flood of Noah's day was a localized flood in the area of the Tarim Basin, located north of Tibet in modern-day western China.

Genesis cccount - Correct translation - Hebrew word translated as "earth" should be understood as "land" or "country"

According to modern-day translations, the text in Genesis records that waters were on the face of the whole "earth" (Gen. 7:17), and that all life was to be destroyed from the face of the "earth" (Gen. 7:4). The word translated as "earth" in these passages is the Hebrew word "erets" (Strong's Hebrew word #776, check in Strong's Concordance here).

The Hebrew word "erets" can refer to the entire world or planet earth, but also can be translated to mean "country", "field", "ground", and "land" (check in Hebrew lexicon here). "Erets" is rarely used in the Bible to refer to the entire planet, and most often used to refer to a limited geographical area -- eg, it is translated "land" 1,476 times, "country" 140 times, and "ground" 96 times in the Old Testament.

For example, in Genesis 4:14 the King James translation says that Cain was driven "from the face of the earth" when punished by God. Cain was not banished to another planet, but rather from the land or country where Adam and Eve lived.

Historical Evidence - Ancient civilizations have uninterrupted history going back to and before flood

According to the Bible, the flood in Genesis occurred in approximately 2345 B.C. At this period in history, there were many great civilizations existing on the earth. Based upon written historical records and archaeological evidence, we know that several of these civilizations, including those of Egypt, China, and Sumer (Mesopotamia), have an uninterrupted history going back until and before the time of Noah's flood. Egypt, for instance, has an uninterrupted line of Kings from 2000 B.C. going back to at least 3000 B.C. These civilizations were never wiped out by any worldwide flood.

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So, are you willing to testify by penalty of judgment to call God a liar before all these witnesses on this forum. I so enjoy watching a man (or woman) place their foot in their mouth.
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For people of that time, anything that covered with water as far as they could see, was a world ending event. If all what you get to move around with is your feet, the "world" is a really small place.
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So, are you willing to testify by penalty of judgment to call God a liar before all these witnesses on this forum. I so enjoy watching a man (or woman) place their foot in their mouth.
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As noted, a correct translation, interpretation, and understanding of the Biblical text does not support a worldwide flood at the time of Noah. The idea of a global flood is the result of inexact translations, and an ensuing misinterpretation and misunderstanding of the text.

So I'm not calling 'God' a liar. I am exposing the truth of His Word, and the lie that is the misinterpretation of His Word.

By posting this, I am testifying as to my view of the proper understanding of His Word. So yes, I testify. I testify that 'God's' Word is accurate.
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BIBLICAL NOAH;

Gen.6:[15] And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

[16] A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.

[17] And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

[18] But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

[19] And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

SO THIS NOAH HAS TO BUILD HIS OWN BOAT WHO'S NEVER BUILT ONE BEFORE, HAS TO BUILD IT USING GOD'S BLUEPRINT WHICH HE PROBABLY NEVER SEEN ONE BEFORE LET ALONE KNOW HOW TO READ IT, USING WHAT TOOLS IN THOSE DAYS "I DON'T KNOW," AND ALL BECAUSE THIS GOD HAS TO DESTROY ALL THE ANIMALS AND TREES FOR THE SINS OF MEN COMMIT ON A PATCH OF DIRT, DRENCH THE PLANET IN WATER 40 DAYS & NIGHTS, VEGETATION SURELY DIED FROM NO LIGHT, AND THE PLANET FROM NO AIR, THIS BIBLE DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE, WHY PEOPLE BELIEVE IT IS BEYOND ME.[i/]


ENOCHIAN NOAH;

[1Enoch,66-1]In those days the word of God came to me, and said, Noah, behold, your lot has ascended up to me, a lot void of crime, a lot beloved and upright.

[2]Now then shall the angels labour at the trees; (61) but when they proceed to this, I will put my hand upon it, and preserve it.

[8]And in those days shall these waters be to kings, to princes, to the exalted, and to the inhabitants of the earth, for the healing of the soul and body, and for the judgment of the spirit.

[14]And when the angels shall ascend, the water of the springs shall again undergo a change, and be frozen.

NOW THIS IS MY KINDA GOD, NOTICE HE KILLS NO ANIMALS FOR THE SINS OF MEN, THE ANIMALS AS IN NATURE SENSE CATASTROPHES BEFORE HAND AND TOOK REFUGE, AND THIS GOD BEING KIND AND MOST OF ALL LOGICAL KNOWING THAT BUILDING SUCH A BOAT TO WEATHER THE TEMPEST WOULD REQUIRE SKILL AND HARD LABOR GOD LET'S THE ANGELS WHO ARE EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT AND STRONG BUILD IT, ALSO NOAH'S LOT WAS HIS WIFE AND CHILDRENS, COUSINS, UNCLES, NO TWO OF EACH ANIMALS STUPIDITY, THIS FLOOD WAS A GUIDE FLOOD THAT TARGETED SINNERS ONLY AND DONE FOR MERCY, A SORT OF EUTHANASIA, AS NOAH SET SAIL TO THE NEW WORLD.
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BIBLICAL NOAH;

Gen.6:[15] And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

[16] A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.

[17] And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

[18] But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

[19] And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

SO THIS NOAH HAS TO BUILD HIS OWN BOAT WHO'S NEVER BUILT ONE BEFORE, HAS TO BUILD IT USING GOD'S BLUEPRINT WHICH HE PROBABLY NEVER SEEN ONE BEFORE LET ALONE KNOW HOW TO READ IT, USING WHAT TOOLS IN THOSE DAYS "I DON'T KNOW," AND ALL BECAUSE THIS GOD HAS TO DESTROY ALL THE ANIMALS AND TREES FOR THE SINS OF MEN COMMIT ON A PATCH OF DIRT, DRENCH THE PLANET IN WATER 40 DAYS & NIGHTS, VEGETATION SURELY DIED FROM NO LIGHT, AND THE PLANET FROM NO AIR, THIS BIBLE DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE, WHY PEOPLE BELIEVE IT IS BEYOND ME.


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ENOCHIAN NOAH;

[1Enoch,66-1]In those days the word of God came to me, and said, Noah, behold, your lot has ascended up to me, a lot void of crime, a lot beloved and upright.

[2]Now then shall the angels labour at the trees; (61) but when they proceed to this, I will put my hand upon it, and preserve it.

[8]And in those days shall these waters be to kings, to princes, to the exalted, and to the inhabitants of the earth, for the healing of the soul and body, and for the judgment of the spirit.

[14]And when the angels shall ascend, the water of the springs shall again undergo a change, and be frozen.

NOW THIS IS MY KINDA GOD, NOTICE HE KILLS NO ANIMALS FOR THE SINS OF MEN, THE ANIMALS AS IN NATURE SENSE CATASTROPHES BEFORE HAND AND TOOK REFUGE, AND THIS GOD BEING KIND AND MOST OF ALL LOGICAL KNOWING THAT BUILDING SUCH A BOAT TO WEATHER THE TEMPEST WOULD REQUIRE SKILL AND HARD LABOR GOD LET'S THE ANGELS WHO ARE EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT AND STRONG BUILD IT, ALSO NOAH'S LOT WAS HIS WIFE AND CHILDRENS, COUSINS, UNCLES, NO TWO OF EACH ANIMALS STUPIDITY, THIS FLOOD WAS A GUIDE FLOOD THAT TARGETED SINNERS ONLY AND DONE FOR MERCY, A SORT OF EUTHANASIA, AS NOAH SET SAIL TO THE NEW WORLD.
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So, are you willing to testify by penalty of judgment to call God a liar before all these witnesses on this forum. I so enjoy watching a man (or woman) place their foot in their mouth.


As noted, a correct translation, interpretation, and understanding of the Biblical text does not support a worldwide flood at the time of Noah. The idea of a global flood is the result of inexact translations, and an ensuing misinterpretation and misunderstanding of the text.

So I'm not calling 'God' a liar. I am exposing the truth of His Word, and the lie that is the misinterpretation of His Word.

By posting this, I am testifying as to my view of the proper understanding of His Word. So yes, I testify. I testify that 'God's' Word is accurate.
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Sorry pal but your talking to a trained Linguist, who was trained in Bible college to do translation work in foreign lands, and I am very familiar with textual criticism, of what "proper" translation do you presume? Remember, the flood occurred before Peleg that is when the continents started to drift apart...after the flood; so the entire landmass was intact at the time of the flood.
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So, are you willing to testify by penalty of judgment to call God a liar before all these witnesses on this forum. I so enjoy watching a man (or woman) place their foot in their mouth.
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:) That depends... do you think that Cain was literally driven from the face of the earth? And 2) how many people (other than Adam and Eve) were there living at the time, that Cain was worried about being killed by someone who found him... presumably on another planet?
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According to the Sumerian Clay Tablets when Nibiru came too close part of the Ice Shelf from Antarctica broke off and created a huge Tsunami.

And that was the source of the Flood.


Enlil knew that it was going to happen, and he told the other Anunnaki to stay quite about it. Because he wanted all of the Nephilim wiped from the face of the Earth along with humanity.

The Nephilim are hybrids between the Watchers and human females.

When the Igigi rebelled from the Command of Enlil they took wives of the daughter of man to have children by, this was how they became known as the Fallen.

But as the story goes, Enki came to his son Noah and gave him plans to build the ark so that he could save a remnant of Humanity from the Coming Deluge.
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So, are you willing to testify by penalty of judgment to call God a liar before all these witnesses on this forum. I so enjoy watching a man (or woman) place their foot in their mouth.
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As noted, a correct translation, interpretation, and understanding of the Biblical text does not support a worldwide flood at the time of Noah. The idea of a global flood is the result of inexact translations, and an ensuing misinterpretation and misunderstanding of the text.

So I'm not calling 'God' a liar. I am exposing the truth of His Word, and the lie that is the misinterpretation of His Word.

By posting this, I am testifying as to my view of the proper understanding of His Word. So yes, I testify. I testify that 'God's' Word is accurate.
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To be fair too, to Noah, it probably seemed like a planetary flood. A tall flood for probably months, or longer would indeed seem to be apocalyptic. Besides, it's not as if the Internet existed during Noah's time frame so he could Skype with others who possibly built Arks of their own. Noah's Ark was found quite some time ago. From what real scientists had been able to find out about it, it didn't have sails, nor a rudder apparently. So Noah's Ark was totally at the mercy of the flood waters.
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