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Is Obama the prophesied 'Son of Kenya' come to destroy the USA?

 
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Is Obama the prophesied 'Son of Kenya' come to destroy the USA?
Obama in prophecy, biblical AND non-biblical...?
By Jack Kelly
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And now does the 100 year old Kenya (non-biblical) prophecy of the future “Son of Kenya” (Obama) begin to unfold?

From last century's great Kenyan Prophet, Johanwa Owalo, the founder of Kenya’s Nomiya Luo Church, and who among the Kenya people of the Luo religion is believed to be a prophet similar to Jesus Christ and Muhammad, and who in 1912 made this horrific prophecy about the United States:

“So far have they [the United States] strayed into wickedness in those [future] times that their destruction has been sealed by my [father]. Their great cities will burn, their crops and cattle will suffer disease and death, their children will perish from diseases never seen upon this Earth, and I reveal to you the greatest [mystery] of all as I have been allowed to see that their [the United States] destruction will come about through the vengeful hands of one of our very own sons.”

NOTE - Barack Obama, Sr. was born in Nyanza Province, Kenya, of Luo ethnicity.

Q. Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

A. This question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition.”

From these secular sources it appears that people from diverse backgrounds believe that a leader matching Mr. Obama's description could appear in the last days, and that his impact will not be good for America. Time will tell.

Q. Re: The people of the leader who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary (Daniel 9:26) How can Mr. Obama be the fulfillment of Daniel 9:26 if he was born in Hawaii, or Kenya for that matter?

A. When Daniel wrote these words from the Angel Gabriel, the Babylonians were about to be conquered by the Medes and Persians. The Romans wouldn't arrive on the scene for several hundred years yet so Gabriel needed a way to identify them. He told Daniel the coming leader would be from the people who would destroy the city and sanctuary following the Messiah's rejection. The Jewish Temple and the City of Jerusalem were destroyed separately. The Roman General Titus Vespasian led the troops who burned the Temple and tore its ruins apart stone by stone in either 68 or 69 AD depending on who's account you favor. He did this under orders from his father Vespasian who was the Emperor of Rome. Then in 135 AD another Roman Emperor, Hadrian, ordered the complete destruction of Jerusalem as a consequence of the bar Kochba rebellion. These two separate events bear witness that Gabriel was referring to the Romans. Together they meet the standard that a matter must be established by the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses. (Deut. 19:15)

Brittainia (Great Britain) first came to the notice of the Romans in 55BC and by 43 AD had been assimilated into the Roman Empire, well before the City and Sanctuary were destroyed. Therefore the Roman Empire of the time stretched from Great Britain in the west across southern Europe and Northern Africa to the Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf in the East. Romans called the Mediterranean sea “Mare Nostrum” (our sea) because the Roman Empire pretty much surrounded it.

Many students of prophecy agree that almost anyone of Middle Eastern or European descent could meet the qualification of Daniel 9:26 to be the anti-Christ providing he also becomes a world leader. They say this is even true of many Americans because of our prior status as a British Colony and the fact that our country was founded in large part by Europeans whose ancestors dwelt in the Roman Empire of Biblical times.

Mr. Obama is almost certainly of European descent through His mother, and those who claim to have done the research say that on his father's side he's much more Arab than African. In fact Mr. Obama Sr.'s birth certificate identifies him as an Arab. They say Mr. Obama Jr.'s genealogy shows him to be 50% Caucasian, 43.75% Arab and 6.25% African. And in an interesting side note, Great Britain is one of the countries Mr. Obama is being asked to prove he's not a citizen of in at least one of the lawsuits that have been filed. If he was born in Kenya in 1961 he would likely be a British citizen, because Kenya's independence from Great Britain didn't take place until 1963. The Supreme Court Justices will review one of these suits on Dec. 5,2008 to determine if they want to hear oral arguments. It is still unclear to everyone why Mr. Obama doesn't just release his original birth certificate and put an end to all the speculation.
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The enemy within?
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Is he sure its a real prophecy because I could only trace it back to Sorch Faal.

He does say that he has verified it.
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' I have been able to confirm that Johanwa Owalo was who this prophecy says he was and that it apparently came from a document copyrighted in 1915. Readers are cautioned to conduct their own research before accepting it as authentic.'
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Is he sure its a real prophecy because I could only trace it back to Sorch Faal.

He does say that he has verified it.
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Verified by Sorcha Faal???

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Is he sure its a real prophecy because I could only trace it back to Sorch Faal.

He does say that he has verified it.




Verified by Sorcha Faal???

blink -- jumpy -- 1rof1
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She mixes real with fictional. He says he has traced it back to a real person.

It could be true. I never found any verification.
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The second one has no link to Sorcha Faal.

'The next one comes from a Forbes.com article dated 10-26-08 by Amir Taheri, author of 10 books on Iran, the Middle East and Islam.'
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yah, it is a credibility reducing thing for sure that the 100-year-old Kenyan prophecy has been brought forward in this century by Sorcha Faal. But the prophecy itself seems to be real.

I have no stake in defending its veracity, since it is not biblical anyway, but culturally I thought it was interesting.
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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AMERICA HAS ALREADY BEEN DESTROYED!!! Just look around.
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It would be nice to know if there was a genuine link. It's an interesting story and highly possible.
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AMERICA HAS ALREADY BEEN DESTROYED!!! Just look around.
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No point Obama taking over then. The story stops here.
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AMERICA HAS ALREADY BEEN DESTROYED!!! Just look around.
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I agree. We are cracking up as we speak. Didja see Drudge this morning?

RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS DECLINE AND BREAKUP OF USA
[link to www.drudgereport.com]
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT.

I AM SENT WITH PROOF.
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THEY ARE GOING TO BLOW MY MT APART.
AGAIN I TELL FUTURE.
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Jesus is savior of the world....the ultimate prophet, pastor, teacher, GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

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