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Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults

 
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Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
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WASHINGTON, Oct. 31, 2006 /PRNewswire/ -- An independent analysis by the internationally renowned Cochrane Collaboration of worldwide influenza vaccine studies, published in the British Medical Journal on Oct. 28, concluded there is little scientific proof that inactivated influenza vaccine is safe and effective for children and adults. Citing the Cochrane Collaboration finding as well as methodological flaws in a child influenza vaccine study published Oct. 25 in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), the National Vaccine Information Center is calling on the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to stop recommending annual flu shots for all infants and children until methodologically sound studies are conducted.

"There is a big gap between policies promoting annual influenza vaccinations for most children and adults and supporting scientific evidence," said epidemiologist Tom Jefferson, Cochrane Vaccines Field, Rome, Italy, who coordinated the comprehensive analysis for the prestigious Cochrane Collaboration. "Given the significant resources involved in annual mass influenza campaigns, there is urgent need for re- evaluation of these strategies."

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The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is a non-profit, educational organization ( [link to www.nvic.org] ) founded in 1982 and is dedicated to preventing vaccine injuries and deaths through public education and defending the informed consent ethic.

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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
I have never been so sick as the last time I took a flu shot.
That was about 12 years ago. Never again!
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As a former health care worker married to a health care worker I can safely say that the illness and misery i have seen that was caused by people having this jab made me realise that health care work is a joke, and its all about big profit and money.

You don't need a flu jab, no one does - the bodies well able to cope unless its all egared up for the wrong type of flu - say jab has flu A in it and flu b comes along and your bodies going to be unprepared....
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
hasn't been proven yet to everyone that the authorities job is to screw you over. Never trust the authority. Matter of fact whack an authoritative person if you ever meet one.
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
All shots given by the authorities or government agencys are only to hurt or kill you.

never trust hospitals as well. They're gonna screw you over but good as well.
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11/26/2008 02:50 AM
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
How many times did the article call them a "prestigious" organization? Let's see if they're "prestigious" enough for their studies to make a difference in the propaganda that's in favor of these killer vaccines.
CONDEMNATION without INVESTIGATION is the HIGHEST form of IGNORANCE
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11/26/2008 03:26 AM
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
If you get the flu. LET the body raise a fever, even help it by using Sauna, heavy clothing, lots of fluids and go to bed. In 8 hours the flu will be gone. A Body temp of 101-102 f prevents the virus from replicating. Read all about it here.

[link to www.brojon.org]

P.S. The worst possible thing you can do if you have the flu is decrease you body temp, this will lead to viral pneumonia and you will DIE.
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WOOOOOOOOW this is great i can now quote a 'trusted' source as saying theres no supporting scientific evidence behind the flu vaccine. YES! one less person knocked up with WHATEVER it is they put in those damn syringes.
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get obama on the phone, he needs to hear about this so he can protect all of our children...surely this will get immediate attention from him since the first step to universal healthcare is good health
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Ignorant people get flu shots.

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1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
Thread: Real Cause of Influenza ( Flu )and How to Prevent it...

Here is a thread on the many benefits of vitamin D one of which is flu resistance.
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bump for the brainwashed that fall for another government lie about protecting when in fact it causes more damage.
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Thread: Real Cause of Influenza ( Flu )and How to Prevent it...

Here is a thread on the many benefits of vitamin D one of which is flu resistance.
 Quoting: meras 559428


Best source of D is super food cod liver oil
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
I have never been so sick as the last time I took a flu shot.
That was about 12 years ago. Never again!
 Quoting: Evil Twin
Same here. It was 8 or 10 years ago and haven't had a shot since.
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
Great post, Mopar, thanks.

Every year I get a call from my doctor's surgery asking if I want the flu jab and every year I tell them no. I have an urge to print out that info and leave it lying around the waiting room ;)
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I didn't get a flu shot, but someone in my family did, then I promptly caught the flu. The one who got the shot was also sick from the flu shot for about a week, but not nearly as sick as I got catching their "dead" virus. I haven't been getting out much lately, so it is unlikely that I could have picked up the virus anywhere else.
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I dont take them and I have so far been able to keep my kids from getting one and we dont get sick. Everyone else around us that has gotten the shot gets sick.
It doesn't matter who I m it's who U R so ChoOse
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
I didn't get a flu shot, but someone in my family did, then I promptly caught the flu. The one who got the shot was also sick from the flu shot for about a week, but not nearly as sick as I got catching their "dead" virus. I haven't been getting out much lately, so it is unlikely that I could have picked up the virus anywhere else.
 Quoting: Anonymouse 531371


Stay in ur moms basement.
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I have never been so sick as the last time I took a flu shot.
That was about 12 years ago. Never again!
 Quoting: Evil Twin


I've known two different 'nurses aides' that took the shots because they were free to them, and both said it was the sickest they had ever been.

I have a friend of 30 years that suddenly regressed, dual personalities, one of them the shitass i knew as a teenager, and i had assumed it was Effexor the antidepressant he was prescribed, but after seeing this thread i remember he was so proud that he got a flu shot about 3 months before he started acting like a fucking retard, so proud because he doesn't believe in 'conspiracy' stuff and thinks he's being 'defiant' or 'proving other people wrong' or something, and now he's a complete fucking snarky idiot that thinks he knows everything yet knows NOTHING.

BANG - instant autistic. He has regressed to the teenage con artist-wannabe i knew as a teen. All the autistic traits - sneaky cleverness(in his own mind), while his actions are so transparent to everyone else. He doesn't do drugs, it has to be the Effexor or the vaccination.

I got a tetanus vaccination last year, so i hope to GOD i don't go the same way as him, and i question myself if i already have. My tenacity is gone, my zeal for competition in my trade.

'Ethnically weaponized', compounds engineered to only attack white people. When's the last time you ever saw a black or mexican or chinese diagnosed "autistic"?

okay then.
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Stay in ur moms basement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 375101



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I heard similar stories of people getting flu shots and effect was they got sick, they were all healthy before.

Kind of blatant cynicism what they offer with vaccines often.
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An MD did a retrorespective study and found that in patients over 65, getting a flu shot 6 years in a row increased their chance of alzheimers by 1000%.
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The Cochrane Collaboration analysis found that the majority of published influenza vaccine studies were methodologically flawed with selection biases, confounders and heavy reliance on non-randomized studies. The report points out that potential confusion between respiratory infections caused by influenza viruses and those caused by non-influenza viruses can result in misdiagnosis and gross overestimation of the true impact of influenza on death and illness in a given influenza season. The report concluded that too few clinical trials have been conducted to prove vaccine safety and current evidence indicates that use of inactivated influenza vaccine has only a modest or no effect on preventing influenza in the children and the elderly.

"The CDC has pushed mass use of influenza vaccine in all children without scientific evidence the policy is either necessary or safe," said NVIC President Barbara Loe Fisher. "Where is the good science to back up the policy? If the recently published CDC-funded influenza vaccine study in JAMA is the kind of flawed science public health officials are using to convince the public the vaccine is safe, it is no wonder that many parents don't trust what public health officials say about vaccination. The CDC should stop recommending annual influenza vaccination of all young children when there is insufficient scientific justification for it."beavis
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Influenza Vaccine is good for you.
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Re: Studies Fail to Demonstrate Safety or Effectiveness of Influenza Vaccine in Children and Adults
I didn't get a flu shot, but someone in my family did, then I promptly caught the flu. The one who got the shot was also sick from the flu shot for about a week, but not nearly as sick as I got catching their "dead" virus. I haven't been getting out much lately, so it is unlikely that I could have picked up the virus anywhere else.


Stay in ur moms basement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 375101


There have been live viruses (or should that be virii?) in flu shots in the past. Anybody who has taken the shot can shed the live virus and people around them can become infected.
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Never had a flu shot, and I don't think I'll be getting one after reading this thread...
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Ahh, but the mercury, aluminum, and formaldehyde are highly effective.
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I absolutely refuse to give the flu shot to my child, or any member of my family. No way! Who the heck knows what's in the "batch" my child is getting. She's safer catching and getting over the flu than getting the flu shot. We both got the flu about a year ago. Funny enough, our doctor said we had a higher immunity to catching the flu again for the next 2 years because we had it.

It's healthier to live the way God intended, rather than creating crap to put into our bodies to prevent it.

bump
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Similar to how they forced all the veterans in the Gulf Wars to get jabbed, and now many of them have all kinds of illnesses and health problems.
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