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HAREMS AND CULTURAL GENOCIDE.....

 
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Will the sanctity of marriage be preserved?

The Harem is certainly weighted against the human rights of women. Westerners accepting Harems amounts to further cultural genocide of the West and its culture.

Those that work with energy are well aware of the impact of sexuality on the human temple. It takes six months for the sexual energies of one to leave the temple. Sometimes healing work has to be done to break the cords that link two partners together beyond six months.

With multiple partners at the same time means that the sexual energies of multiple partners are mixed on a regular basis. This co-creates confusion and pollutes the temple.

The holy keep the sanctuary holy and pure, they know that they are sacred.

Making love is not an after dinner mint it was always meant to be a feast and a banquet with the sacred in the temple of God. In effect, on an energetic level a harem situation creates an orgy in the temple and we all know what happens when people leave the sacred and fall into the profane.

Westerners Welcome Harems
by Daniel Pipes
Jerusalem Post
November 26, 2008

A Scottish judge recently bent the law to benefit a polygamous household. The case involved a Muslim male who drove 64 miles per hour in a 30 mph zone – usually grounds for an automatic loss of one's driving license. The defendant's lawyer explained his client's need to speed: "He has one wife in Motherwell and another in Glasgow and sleeps with one one night and stays with the other the next on an alternate basis. Without his driving licence he would be unable to do this on a regular basis." Sympathetic to the polygamist's plight, the judge permitted him to retain his license.

Monogamy, this ruling suggests, long a foundation of Western civilization, is silently eroding under the challenge of Islamic law. Should current trends continue, polygamy could soon be commonplace. Since the 1950s, Muslim populations have grown in Western Europe and North America via immigration and conversion; with their presence has grown the Islamic form of polygyny (one man married to more than one woman). Estimates find 2,000 or more British polygamous men, 14,000 or 15,000-20,000 harems in Italy, 30,000 harems in France, and 50,000-100,000 polygamists in the United States. Some imams openly acknowledge conducting polygamous marriage ceremonies: Khalil Chami reports that he is asked almost weekly to conduct such ceremonies in Sydney. Aly Hindy reports having "blessed" more than 30 such nuptials in Toronto.Social acceptance is also growing. Academics justify it, while politicians blithely meet with polygamists or declare that Westerners should "find a way to live with it" and journalists describe polygamy with empathy, sympathy, and compassion. Islamists argue polygamy's virtues and call for its official recognition.

The Iranian harem as depicted by an Iranian. Polygamy has made key legal advances in 2008. (For fuller details, see my blog, "Harems Accepted in the West.") At least six Western jurisdictions now permit harems on the condition that these were contracted in jurisdictions where polygamy is legal, including India and Muslim-majority countries from Indonesia to Saudi Arabia to Morocco.

• United Kingdom: Bigamy is punishable by up to seven years in jail but the law recognizes harems already formed in polygamy-tolerant countries. The Department of Work and Pensions pays couples up to £92.80 (US$140) a week in social benefits, and each multiculturally-named "additional spouse" receives £33.65. The Treasury states that "Where a man and a woman are married under a law which permits polygamy, and either of them has an additional spouse, the Tax Credits (Polygamous Marriages) Regulations 2003 allow them to claim tax credits as a polygamous unit." Additionally, harems may be eligible for additional housing benefits to reflect their need for larger properties.

For more information see the link. [link to www.danielpipes.org]

The bible says at the second resurrection that people will no longer marry. However, does this mean multiple lovers at the same time?

No, it means there is no longer a requirement for attachment in the earthly realm.

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"At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Matthew 22:29-31

"When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Mark 12:24-26

"But those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage" Luke 20:34-36

"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral." Hebrews 13:3-5

By keeping the bed pure we are keeping the temple of God pure. The temple of God that is your body is sacred, the temple is polluted by anything less than love.

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 Quoting: HannibalTheCannibal



SACRED LOVE



Love with honour

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"At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Matthew 22:29-31

"When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Mark 12:24-26

"But those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage" Luke 20:34-36

"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral." Hebrews 13:3-5

By keeping the bed pure we are keeping the temple of God pure. The temple of God that is your body is sacred, the temple is polluted by anything less than love.

Lotus
 Quoting: Lotus Feet


The word adultery comes from ADULTERATE the passage in Hebrews is talking about adulterating the temple of God with the sexual energies of more than one person at a time.

SACRED LOVE



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How do you feel about in vitro pregnancy?
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"At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Matthew 22:29-31

"When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Mark 12:24-26

"But those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage" Luke 20:34-36

"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral." Hebrews 13:3-5

By keeping the bed pure we are keeping the temple of God pure. The temple of God that is your body is sacred, the temple is polluted by anything less than love.

Lotus
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That's right Lotus, the angels in Heaven are neither "given in marriage nor ready to marry" as all that is taken care of HERE.

"What is bound on Earth is bound in Heaven, and what is loosed on Earth is loosed in Heaven".

....Hence the reason angels are not "given" nor "married" there.

But let's not misconstrue that as angels being androgenous and eternal bonds going away etc as people like yourself and many others are so want to do.
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Heaven is within Saxon and there are many heavens.

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How do you feel about in vitro pregnancy?
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It is an act of man. Humanity play with the nature of creation and then they face the consequences.

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Heaven is within Saxon and there are many heavens.

Lotus
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Do you have a bob to go with that weave Lotus? rolleyes

And BTW, now that we're on the topic, how DARE you condemn the harem of Fathers Abraham, Jacob, Solomon and king David just to name a few.

You are a BLASPHEMER, you, you, you daugther of SATAN!!!!
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A Song for you Saxon...



The Sun of righteousness rises with healing in his wings...

She was raised by God Saxon, she was taught how to teach her soul to fly into heaven.

Where is the entrance to heaven Saxon?

In the heart.....

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Heaven is within Saxon and there are many heavens.

Lotus


Do you have a bob to go with that weave Lotus? rolleyes

And BTW, now that we're on the topic, how DARE you condemn the harem of Fathers Abraham, Jacob, Solomon and king David just to name a few.

You are a BLASPHEMER, you, you, you daugther of SATAN!!!!
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



People are not a commodity without love they become so. Many Kings married numerous women to keep the peace with other nations. People become a commodity to be sold into marriage to stop men killing each other.

Love is not for sale...



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Heaven is within Saxon and there are many heavens.

Lotus


Do you have a bob to go with that weave Lotus? rolleyes

And BTW, now that we're on the topic, how DARE you condemn the harem of Fathers Abraham, Jacob, Solomon and king David just to name a few.

You are a BLASPHEMER, you, you, you daugther of SATAN!!!!



People are not a commodity without love they become so. Many Kings married numerous women to keep the peace with other nations. People become a commodity to be sold into marriage to stop men killing each other.

Love is not for sale...



Lotus
 Quoting: Lotus Feet


Gonna have your cake and eat it too again eh Lotus?

So, your "unchanging god" is directing all that harem behaviour in your "inerrant" bible for all those "blessed forefathers" of "god's chosen people", to then turn TOTALLY about face and now CHANGE into the one man one wife director eh?

Love is not for sale, nor is it taught in mystic occult mystery schools either dear.

You're going to figure that out shortly.
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The Sun of righteousness rises with healing in his wings...

She was raised by God Saxon, she was taught how to teach her soul to fly into heaven.

Where is the entrance to heaven Saxon?

In the heart.....

Lotus
 Quoting: Lotus Feet


Sorry dear, as usual you got it WRONG. The Sun/Son is a GUY, not some nauseating "androgenous" Luciferian "god" as you've been wrongly taught by your "experts".

But you're right about the entrance to Heaven being found in one's Heart, but you've got the whole foundation WRONG. No andorgenous types allowed. Sorry you bought into the "secret" nonsensical bullshit spewing from Lucifer's butt. You're "holy experts" have TOTALLY missed the boat just as their "god" and your "god" Lucifer designed.
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Awwww dear, what are you running from? hmm
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lol Saxon you do make me smile....

I was not trained by a mystery school although I do know people that run a Mayan one.

Love to you

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lol Saxon you do make me smile....

I was not trained by a mystery school although I do know people that run a Mayan one.

Love to you

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No, then who performed your "confirmation" rituals? hmm
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is there not worse things going on in the world than a common family arrangement that you do not understand or that makes you uncomfortable due to your cultural upbringing?

Where is tolerance for other cultures in this debate?

I think the real cause for upset is the challenge female westerners feel towards there standing in western culture by the mere idea of harems. Much as the concept of prostitution ( a holy occupation in ancient societys and one of much benefit to all societys nowadays and a simple fact of group human nature ) greatly upsets and simultaneosly titilates almost all western women .
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who has a better life?

For some women in a 'Nuclear family' they are unhappy with her life, feel trapped, and by many western ways of living will spend more time working than with there child.

For some women in polygamous relationships they have the support of the other wives, the children are always looked after by people they know and who love them and, and the women may spend more time with her children and feel the opposite of trapped- supported.
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who has a better life?

For some women in a 'Nuclear family' they are unhappy with her life, feel trapped, and by many western ways of living will spend more time working than with there child.

For some women in polygamous relationships they have the support of the other wives, the children are always looked after by people they know and who love them and, and the women may spend more time with her children and feel the opposite of trapped- supported.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 567305


Bingo. America totally supports and enshrines SERIAL polygamy, but has been brainwashed to HATE parallel polygamy.

Someone like Lotus (lives in London) will spew her hatred for "harems" while GLORIFYING her "heros" of Christianity like King DAVID and SOLOMON and ABRAHAM.

And of course she will totally DODGE all questions from MOI which OUT her on that FACT!!

What a surprise. rolleyes
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yeah man.

the way i see it, what is the difference from being culturally pressured into a monogamous family arrangment or a polygamous family arrangment.

Women in polygamous cultures will no know different way, just as women in monogamous cultures will also knoe know other way.

Western society and particulary the some of them who seem to express old school feminist veiws parading as having womens best interests at heart are niave in the best and arrogant and ignorant at the worst.

Blind to there own conditioning.
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i notice no reply from lotus feet.

come on, are you willing to tell these women that the family they were raised in was ' wrong' the way they were raised was wrong, there wa there mothers were raised was wrong, the way there mothers mothers going back generations and generations was wrong just because yor experience of western family values is superior?

get real.

this is not a black and white issue. It is a cultural one.
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The word adultery comes from ADULTERATE the passage in Hebrews is talking about adulterating the temple of God with the sexual energies of more than one person at a time.

Lotus
 Quoting: Lotus Feet



temples of old held practices and offerered services and forms of worship that you may nowadays associate with brothels.

It is the modern fanatical obsession with sexuality that has chosen to forget this and to control and surpress sexual expression. We live in an unatural society and yet still we have ' temples' to sex. Just watch any advert or visit any brothel, which despite laws forbidding thme will always be there as long as the human race survives.
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i notice no reply from lotus feet.

come on, are you willing to tell these women that the family they were raised in was ' wrong' the way they were raised was wrong, there wa there mothers were raised was wrong, the way there mothers mothers going back generations and generations was wrong just because yor experience of western family values is superior?

get real.

this is not a black and white issue. It is a cultural one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 567305


Of course not, Lotus always conveniently ignores issues that best her "wisdom".

Soon she'll be listing response words about things people need to "own". rolleyes

And of course Lotus Feet NEVER needs to "own" anything, being "god" and all.

And since she's a woman, how exactly does SHE pull off that "god" thing? hmm
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saxon-

i take it you and locust feet fall out often? Did i walk in on a lovers tiff?
( I'm only picking on her because she seems to be avoiding the debate)
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The Sun/Son is a GUY, not some nauseating "androgenous" Luciferian "god" as you've been wrongly taught by your "experts".

But you're right about the entrance to Heaven being found in one's Heart, but you've got the whole foundation WRONG. No andorgenous types allowed. Sorry you bought into the "secret" nonsensical bullshit spewing from Lucifer's butt. You're "holy experts" have TOTALLY missed the boat just as their "god" and your "god" Lucifer designed.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Sun = feminine, for it is safe for Women and Children to be outside.

Moon = masculine, for the wolves keep an eye out ...




IF you'd would have read in my myspace space /stanovic

you could have read: I'd settle for Matriarchy in exchange for Polygyny (for the most able, that is)...


I am androgenious .... my battle was
to be in touch with my feminine side AND
to make myself worthy for the opposite gender.

Have a refreshing weekend,
kind regards,

Stan



p.s. The Chinese (high culture started there, they oh so modestly say .... compare: where does the Marijuana plant originate from? China)

have a saying:

make your heart heart
or
make your heart hard

it's all about phonetics...........
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Sun = feminine, for it is safe for Women and Children to be outside.

Moon = masculine, for the wolves keep an eye out ...



it's all about phonetics...........
 Quoting: Dietsland 566378



kinda wrong there buddy,
moon has always been feminine and the sun has always been masculine.
Did you ever have a job that you hated and worked real hard at? A long, hard day of work. Finally you get to go home, get in bed, close your eyes and immediately you wake up and realize... that the whole day at work had been a dream. It's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free.



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kinda wrong there buddy,
moon has always been feminine and the sun has always been masculine.
 Quoting: Mr Lunatic



I am not your buddy, do not even think about being pedantic towards me ....

Fore; CORRECTNESS; I am always right, even when I am not, since I attempted to.


"moon has always been feminine
and
the sun has always been masculine."


HAVE YOU NOT heard of Nietzsche's
Nachlass aka the will to power aka the revaluation of all values aka the transvaluation of all values
(German: Umwertung aller Werte)



Have you ever 180'ed the map of the World?
aesthetically it look much better ....

anyway go figure it out.............

WHATEVER
NEVERMIND
EITHER WAY
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lol Saxon you do make me smile....

I was not trained by a mystery school although I do know people that run a Mayan one.

Love to you

Lotus


No, then who performed your "confirmation" rituals? hmm
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



I have no idea what you are talking about Saxon..


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who has a better life?

For some women in a 'Nuclear family' they are unhappy with her life, feel trapped, and by many western ways of living will spend more time working than with there child.

For some women in polygamous relationships they have the support of the other wives, the children are always looked after by people they know and who love them and, and the women may spend more time with her children and feel the opposite of trapped- supported.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 567305



If you honesty think that women like to share their partners with another woman or man you are strongly mistaken.

I heard of a very sad story of two young happily married people. Then the man was offered another women of wealth, position and title, it means the first wife as to take second place. She is broken hearted.

And Saxon as I have said to you before many Kings and Queens married to keep the peace with lands that wished to invade them.

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i notice no reply from lotus feet.

come on, are you willing to tell these women that the family they were raised in was ' wrong' the way they were raised was wrong, there wa there mothers were raised was wrong, the way there mothers mothers going back generations and generations was wrong just because yor experience of western family values is superior?

get real.

this is not a black and white issue. It is a cultural one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 567305


Exactly, this thread is about cultural genocide of Western culture.

Lotus
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