The economic problem is this: Updated last page 17

A very interesting read. Thank you for this thread.

I am in no way an expert on this whole financial picture, but than with all the counter-productive measures by pumping in more money in this ocean of debt, it makes you wonder who is an expert when it comes to solutions.

It is I guess like in every business, when things go from bad to worse, the so called experts tend to try and find solutions in their specific line of business, instead of trying to think out of the box. If you translate that to the business we call our global economy, this behaviour gives you an insight in what shape we are when it comes to solutions.

There are none, because these financial "experts" like Bernanke and Geithner and the likes of Sarkozy and Merkel can only think in financial solutions and their most favorite one is to pump in more debt to buy time, force fake static budget cuts on to society, stare at the sky and hope things get better. But in that respect hope is for suckers.

So, unless they accept input from an "Einstein"-like genius (if there is anyone with that genius at all), there is no other way than that the whole financial and social system will zero out. Just in time has in that respect become just too late. A war won't change things. If the line of thinking throughout the system does not change, the problem will still exist after any war, probably even gotten worse.

This about sums up the "solution strenght" of our so called experts:

Hiya Art,

Fresh in today's news...

Babcock & Wilcox Hits Record $6 Billion Backlog in First-Quarter 2012, Benefits From Environmental Legislation, an Industrial Info News Alert
[link to www.marketwatch.com]

Well .... It seems like some area's of the world are

finally starting to see the implications of

a Syncro-Locked K-wave.


"As discussed herein, the potential rapid annihilation of what used to be a global reserve currency could lead to one of the fastest and sharpest redistributions of wealth in financial history.

If catastrophe takes down Europe's economy and banking system, then we may see repeated tidal waves of business collapse and spiking unemployment spreading out from the EU, and slamming into the already weak but tightly interlinked economies of the US, Japan, Canada, Australia and others."

Potential Euro Collapse & Rapid Redistribution Of Personal Wealth - Daniel R. Amerman, CFA 16 May 2012
[link to www.gold-eagle.com]


I think FaceBook (ticker symbol - FB) should be renamed (ticker symbol - FP).

To paraphrase from the well known question ....

Got Toast ?


BTW, FP means facepalm.

we're fucked..

[link to 24hgold.com]

comments?

yeah, I was in an army navy store today and bot a small bivy tent and a portable shower bivy tent thing and other survival gear. Have a fall back plan...

The problem with the economy is this:

1. Mankind has become a perpetual lying machine


2. Mankind has become extremely lazy

what if the war were against the bankers? take down the warburgs, roths, rocks, etc. toss the moneychangers out of the temple and start anew?

what if the war were against the bankers? take down the warburgs, roths, rocks, etc. toss the moneychangers out of the temple and start anew?


The moneychangers own the temple now. We'll have to destroy it along with them. But then what? What's the plan for after?

The moneychangers own the temple now. We'll have to destroy it along with them. But then what? What's the plan for after?


They have too many guns, and the world is busy playing stupid Facebook games and watching sports on TV.

They have too many guns, and the world is busy playing stupid Facebook games and watching sports on TV.

The moneychangers own the temple now. We'll have to destroy it along with them. But then what? What's the plan for after?


the only way things will change but who on this planet would hold to the supreme ruler of 8 billion slaves in a just and honored way?

OP, I have read about the Kondratiev Winter that we are approaching and I agree with, however, I personally believe the entire thing is much bigger than just the Kondratiev wave theory. I believe the Mayans are also correct and we are at the end of an age, this has spiritual implications that I believe are far more important than the economic ones. What do you think?

The bible has the necessary insights to the events that you mentioned.

Knowing what it says, determines your future.

Just a way for the organics to remove the synthetics

Not a wrong choice?

Not a wrong choice?

Only if you are a clone dependent on synthetic life.

There is more than one way to do it. Unfortunately, most Christians believe they are in an exclusive group just like the jewish people and the Muslims and only they are the choosen ones(which has caused most of the problems in the world). These 3 Abrahamic religions have been responsible for most of the wars, hate, killing, rape, pedophilia, etc. that has occurred on planet earth for the last 2,000 yrs. or so. Let's start with the early Catholic church and the fusion w/ the roman empire resulting in the Inquisition, Reformation, Holy Wars, and now the ultimate Holy War which will be WW3. Do you really think Christ would have wanted it this way. I don't, the kingdom of heaven is within all of us if we will only look, no matter our race, color, creed, religion or sex.

Last Edited by grefey on 05/18/2012 07:35 PM

America needs someone to stand up as a leader and teach people how to share things we have with others, if we all share our food we would all be fine. And if someone is in need people will automatically reach out and help leaving no one behind. Just need society as a whole to realize how connected we are and how everyone at the core really is our brothers and sisters. Someday..

I think this is what we are hear to learn this time around. We will soon see how well we have done, I think.

Last Edited by grefey on 05/18/2012 07:53 PM

The problem is that a small group of psychopaths are dominating the world's resources.

They are doing this through the corruption and control of the financial system and this is why it will collapse. Then we will see what we are all made of and how much spiritual progress we have made on the earthly plane during this life time, right?

Last Edited by grefey on 05/18/2012 07:56 PM

Interesting theory, but remember this still places responsibility on ECONOMIC THEORY that is the better part of a century old, and every ECONOMIC THEORY has at least 3 contrasting theories to show that the theory is wrong, and each of those contrasting theories have multiple theories explaining why those theories are wrong about the original theory which they contend is wrong but for another reason.

It may be easier to place the global economic crisis on the theory that human beings are no better than parasites.

Individually, all human beings have positive aspects, but as a mass worsen exponentially.

Consider the following:

Hypothesis - a proposed explanation for a phenomenon

Theory - analytical tools for understanding, explaining, and making predictions about a given subject matter.

Law - established principles thought to be universal and invariable

Economist always like to propose THEORIES. Yet Business prefers to stick to LAWS

Consider the Laws of Supply and Demand and modern social conditioning. Most store brands are manufactured in the same mill at the same time as a name product. For example Sam's Choice Toilet paper in manufactured by Georgia Pacific at the same time GP produces Angel Soft. Social conditioning steers consumers away from store brands as they are products for a lower class of people, yet they are identical products, but then you have the Cottonelle purchasers that just prefer the feel on the rosebud.

Humans being are not in harmony with the world, and history has shown that they will strip the Earth of Natural Resources until there is nothing left. It is the way of humans, with the natural world, and the world they created. Human Beings want choice, and they want what makes them appear the best, as with the Toilet Paper example, it just proves that Human Beings are full of shit.

I digressed from my point, but it was necessary.

The main idea is that Economic Theories are great in theory, but they are for the most part impractical. technology has grown faster than the economy and usurped any relevance to the real world. Considering that most economic theories were postulated when the author could not even conceive of someone flying Wagyu Beef from Japan, Stone Crab from Miami, Lobster from Maine, Snow Crab from Alaska, Pineapple from Hawaii and Caviar from Russia for a dinner party tomorrow all while social networking with their suppliers on a computer the size of a billfold.

It is more likely that the Global Economic Crisis has little to do with cycles of fluctuation, rather it is a result ignoring the need for sustainable resources. Society has pushed toward making money off of buying and selling, unfortunately very few are making any products to sell.

I'd rather our collective awakening come about through an epic interdimensional invasion, but hey...whatever gets the job done.

LOL, how right you are, but most of the time we don't to choose, especially now.

They have too many guns, and the world is busy playing stupid Facebook games and watching sports on TV.


all of those guns are manned by peasants. if the peasants ever decided to pull another French Revolution, then God help 'em.

but you are right, as long as the peasants are eating both bread and cake, it isn't likely to change.

How do you get "we're fucked" from that? Unless you're one of THEM

Major agreement, except in that it seems you're thinking that the physical/current events are happening independently or along-side of the spiritual events...

I purpose this: ALL physical/current events happen along-with spiritual... or even follow spiritual evolution.

Eg. The internet is the physical manifestation of our consciousness. (If you understand that statement, w/out explanation.)

SO... this economic event that is occurring, is just a manifestation of the evolution of consciousness.

I'm not sure where that evolution is going to take us, but the fact is, it is changing/evolving and the events that are taking place, ie. our economic collapse, is nothing more than the physical manifestation of that change.

Nothing to be concerned about, unless you are able to only identify with the physical and not the spiritual.

:endrant:

Last Edited by Deej on 05/18/2012 08:48 PM

The K is this. They compute another quadtrillion in BS money stick it into K and all hail lord obama. Meanwhile the top 1 percent will still own all the worlds wealth.
Who cares money when there's nothing left to eat?