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Obama NOT born in the USA OR Kenya!

 
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12/06/2008 11:33 PM
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Obama NOT born in the USA OR Kenya!
If Barak was really born in Hawaii then, he still was born outside the USA.

In 1993, Clinton and Congress signed a joint resolution which became Public Law 103-150, admitting and acknowledging the illegal invasion and take over of the Kingdom of Hawaii. In the resolution, they make it clear that the provisional government had no legal right to cede the land to the USA as, the land had never been ceded to them either by the deposed government nor the will of the people as is necessary under international law.

Plus, the Newlands Resolution which congress used to annex Hawaii as a territory was also invalid, as it was never ratified.

Thus, Hawaii was never even legally made a state!

Don't take my word for it - do your research.

The Hawaii Supreme Court just ruled this past January that the de facto government/State of Hawaii has no right to ANY of the land until such time as a settlement is reached with the Hawaiian people as outlined in Public Law 103-150.

Governor Lingle has been in a total fit! She and the State legislature have filed an appeal with the Federal Supreme Court - to be heard in February. They (the State) are claiming that Public Law 103-150 isn't really a law - that it was just to say, "Oops! We fucked you up - sorry!"

She and the State have little to no ground to stand on. Guess she's getting nervous. (Probably spent all the bribes she's gotten from major land developers.) Interesting that she has refused to attend Obama's Governor meeting. Doesn't want to be cornered and questioned????

To sum it up - some major rulings coming out of the Supreme Court this year - looks like we're headed for a Constitutional Convention.
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12/06/2008 11:36 PM
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What happens if it's determined he's not eligible to be president?? What then?
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What happens if it's determined he's not eligible to be president?? What then?
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12/06/2008 11:41 PM
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What happens if it's determined he's not eligible to be president?? What then?

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Yeah probably, but that aside....will there be a new election, or does the leader of the opposition become president?
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12/06/2008 11:43 PM
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I'm not sure but, we're in for one HELL of a year!

What I posted IS NOT conjecture or theory - all REAL - acknowledged by the US Federal Government as well as the UN.
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12/06/2008 11:47 PM
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hmm
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12/06/2008 11:48 PM
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stfu
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12/06/2008 11:49 PM
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stfu
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LOL! Thanks for the bump!
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12/06/2008 11:51 PM
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rockypaul Ron Paul wins by default!!!! rockypaul
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12/06/2008 11:51 PM
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I'm not sure but, we're in for one HELL of a year!

What I posted IS NOT conjecture or theory - all REAL - acknowledged by the US Federal Government as well as the UN.
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Yep next year will be a year of turmoil.... the likes we've never experienced before.
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12/06/2008 11:52 PM

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it doesn't matter where he was born as long as one of his parents were citizens
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12/06/2008 11:53 PM
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So, the OP is saying that the Hawaii Supreme Court has ruled that the State of Hawaii can't sell any of the ceded lands until it reaches a settlement with native hawaiians because the State has no right to exist?

Wouldn't that mean the State Supreme Court has no right to exist because it's part of the State of Hawaii and therefore their opinion does not exist either?

pphtt
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LOL! Thanks for the bump!
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Goofy Thum

You go OP
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12/06/2008 11:59 PM
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on "what really happened" today the guy fro obama crimes.com is trying to get court order to get electoial collage vote stoped?????
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12/07/2008 12:05 AM
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So, the OP is saying that the Hawaii Supreme Court has ruled that the State of Hawaii can't sell any of the ceded lands until it reaches a settlement with native hawaiians because the State has no right to exist?

Wouldn't that mean the State Supreme Court has no right to exist because it's part of the State of Hawaii and therefore their opinion does not exist either?

pphtt
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LOL!

It's not about the right to exist - it's jurisdiction. The State government has no jurisdiction over Hawaii however, their own supreme Court holds authority over the State.

International law is a fascinating subject!
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12/07/2008 12:13 AM
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it doesn't matter where he was born as long as one of his parents were citizens
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Wrong. because one of his parents wasn't a citizen and she wasn't over 18.
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12/07/2008 12:19 AM
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Sorry - I posted part 2 first - here's part 1


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Island at Risk - part 1

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12/07/2008 12:45 AM
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part 2

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The 22nd Amendment states what happens if the President Elect is found ineligible. Look it up.

It states that the VP would assume the role of Prez until Congress can determine how to select the next President. I'd paste it here, but I'm not at a computer right now.
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Part 3

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12/07/2008 12:48 AM
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Most of this 'Obama birth certificate' stuff is just internet BS.

Obama was born in Hawai'i.

Now if it were determined that somehow Hawai'i has never 'really' been a state, that could be a problem . . .
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12/07/2008 12:50 AM
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Most of this 'Obama birth certificate' stuff is just internet BS.

Obama was born in Hawai'i.

Now if it were determined that somehow Hawai'i has never 'really' been a state, that could be a problem . . .
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Yep - that's the exact point of the thread!
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12/07/2008 12:54 AM
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I would love to see Hawaii become and independent nation, without question, again.
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12/07/2008 12:58 AM
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I would love to see Hawaii become and independent nation, without question, again.
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ltana hf
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12/07/2008 12:58 AM
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wtf
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12/07/2008 01:04 AM
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Does anyone really and truly 'know' where they were born?
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12/07/2008 01:06 AM
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This has been going on for awhile now - they (the US government & their bought and paid for media) just keep it quiet - don't want to hurt mainland tourism and the real estate market.

The following is a quote from the Kaua'i County General Plan. Shows that the current de facto government is totally aware that their time and power is very limited.

3.6 NATIVE HAWAIIAN RIGHTS
There is a statewide movement to restore Native Hawaiian rights and lands; to obtain
reparations for past and ongoing use of trust lands; and to attain a sovereign Native Hawaiian
government. It is important to set forth Native Hawaiian rights and to define the role of the
County government vis-à-vis the State and Federal governments.
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12/07/2008 01:12 AM
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bsflag
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lol typical





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