Islam Explained 182 - Muhammad & Dogs [Mohamed killed puppies] | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 568235 United States 12/08/2008 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Islam Explained 182 - Muhammad & Dogs Quoting: Anonymous Coward 567793They consider dogs to be unclean and are not allowed to have dogs inside their house. The false prophet Mohamed ordered dogs to be killed When the so-called angel (satan) went to visit him to give him the quran, Mohamed wrote that the angel did not enter his house the first day, when Mohamed asked him why, the angel told him because he had dogs in the house and than the angel left. So Mohamed had all the puppies killed and the next day this angel (satan) entered his house and gave him the false message of the Quran Islam also compares women equal with dogs and donkeys This is because dogs see unclean spirits and assifer did not want a "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" situation. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 567793 United States 12/08/2008 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.answering-islam.org] MUHAMMAD AND THE DOGS by Silas INTRODUCTION STATEMENTS FROM THE HADITH 1) KILL THE DOGS 2) COMMERCE IN DOGS 3) LOSS OF REWARD OF GOOD WORKS FOR OWNING DOGS 4) DOGS ANNULLING PRAYER 5) DOGS STOP THE ANGELS THE TOMES OTHER SOURCES TO OBEY OR NOT OBEY MUHAMMAD? – THAT IS THE QUESTION. ARGUMENT 1: THE HADITH ARE FALSE – Variation 1. ARGUMENT 1: THE HADITH ARE FALSE – Variation 2. ARGUMENT 2: THE HADITH ARE MISUNDERSTOOD BENEFITS OF DOGS AS PETS BENEFITS OF DOGS AS PETS CONTINUED DISCUSSION: THE BIGGER PICTURE QUESTIONS AND TALKING POINTS CHALLENGE TO THE MUSLIM CONCLUSION REFERENCES INTRODUCTION Muhammad made strange and harsh statements about dogs and these edicts affect dogs in a tragic way. His teachings may have come from cultural bias, Pagan concepts, or his own imagination, but wherever they came from they led to the cruel treatment of dogs. None of the statements regarding dogs are found in the Quran but they abound in the various collections of traditions (hadith). These traditions are a primary foundation of Islamic theology and are the basis of many Islamic laws. They render dogs as "impure" and worse. Per Muhammad’s orders most dogs were to be killed and all dogs of a specific color (black) had to be killed. Muhammad claimed to be a prophet of God and as such his word was to be obeyed. With the teeth of Islam biting worldwide it is vital that Muhammad’s teachings be scrutinized to determine if he were a nut or a prophet. STATEMENTS FROM THE HADITH Below are a number of Hadith on various aspects involving dogs. All Hadith are from the Sahih collections of Bukhari[1] and Muslim[2], or the Sunan of Abu Dawud[3]. After the Quran, Bukhari's set of Hadith are regarded to be the second most important books in Islam, followed closely by the Hadith of Muslim. I quote from these sources to prove that these Hadith are not just a few isolated or unsupported cases. I have sorted Muhammad's statements concerning dogs into 5 categories. All of these illustrate different facets of his beliefs regarding dogs. 1) KILL THE DOGS From Bukhari Vol. 4, #540 Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed. From Abu Dawud #2839 Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one. The Hadith's note for #2839 says, "The prophet did not order the killing of all the dogs, for some are to be retained for hunting and watching. He ordered to kill the jet black ones. They might be more mischievous among them. From Muslim #3814 Ibn Mughaffal reported: Allah's messenger ordered the killing of dogs and then said, "what is the trouble with them (the people of Medina? How dogs are nuisances to them (the citizens of Medina)? He then permitted keeping of dogs for hunting and (the protection of) herds. ...[and for] for the protection of cultivated land. From Muslim #Number 055 Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time. From Muslim #3813 Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah's messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah's apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil. The note for #3814 says, "The Hadith gives us an idea why the prophet commanded to kill dogs. There must have been an excess of stray dogs and thus the danger of rabies in the city of Medina and its suburbs. The prophet therefore ordered to kill them. Later on when it was found that his Companions were killing them indiscriminately, he forbade them to do so and told them that only the ferocious beasts which were a source of danger to life should be killed. The word "Devil" in the Hadith clarifies this point. Here devil stands for ferocious. ... more at link [link to www.answering-islam.org] Last Edited by LJS on 02/25/2014 07:57 AM |
The Psychedelic Magi User ID: 545324 United States 12/08/2008 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... dogs and cats have the ability to see interdimensional beings for what they really are. I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action! A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others... ------------------------------------ In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them. This is the Cosm. This is both I and You. I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine! ------------------ as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi "the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 567793 United States 12/08/2008 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... Quoting: The Psychedelic Magidogs and cats have the ability to see interdimensional beings for what they really are. exactly! When satan disguised as an angel went to Mohamed with the message of the quran, he knew that the dogs would bark at him! Dogs would not bark at God |