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Just an interesting article to share with You all:

Russian scientist find or claim to find "120 million year old" (Evol years)3D Aerial Relief Map.

"This seems to be impossible. Scientists of Bashkir State University have found indisputable proofs of an ancient highly developed civilizationÂ’s existence. The question is about a great plate found in 1999, with picture of the region done according to an unknown technology. This is a real relief map. TodayÂ’s military has almost similar maps.

The map contains civil engineering


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This info is 3 years old.
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The Piri Reis map was said to be discovered in the 16th century by an ancient map collector. The map even shows Antarctica without ice. It´s quite a fascinating story.

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THE PIRI REIS MAP

Piri Reis was a famous Turkish admiral in the sixteenth century who had a passionate interest in his collection of old maps. When the admiral´s flagship tied up in some new port, Piri Reis and his aides scoured the bazaars for ancient charts and maps. During a now-forgotten sea battle, the admiral captured several enemy sailors. One of the captives boasted of sailing with Columbus on his three voyages to the new world.

Reis, ever on the lookout for new information and maps, questioned the man, who turned out to be one of Columbus´s pilots. Reis asked if Columbus was mad, or if he knew that there was land across the ocean. The pilot said he knew, that he had maps, and that the pilot still had the maps!

The admiral´s eyes scanned the yellowed charts. The tracings on the parchment were precise. Using his collection of antique charts, Admiral Piri Reis compiled a world map in 1513. In 1929, a group of historians, poking around in the harem section of the Palace of Topkapi in Constantinople, found the Piri Reis map in a pile of rubble. These scholars were astonished to discover that the map showed the coastal outlines of South and North America. It also included precise data on the southern polar continent, Antarctica, supposedly not discovered until 1818.

Arlington T. Mallerey, an authority on ancient maps, eventually came into possession of these documents. He was puzzled to find that the geographical data on the map was not in the correct position. Assisted by the U.S. Navy Hydrographic Bureau, Mallerey made a grid and transferred the Piri Reis map onto a globe. The map was totally accurate.

Later, studies by Professor Charles H. Hapgood and Richard W. Strachan revealed that the originals of the Piri Reis charts may have been aerial pictures snapped at a great height. The rivers, mountain ranges, islands, desserts, and plateaus, were drawn with unusual accuracy. As an example, Greenland was represented as being two separate islands. This was confirmed just recently by a French polar expedition; their seismic soundings beneath the surface indicated ice covers the space between the two islands.

In Antarctica, an exploratory profile was made by seismic soundings. It revealed mountains and valleys beneath the ice cap that matched the markings on the Piri Reis map. In the January, 1966, issue of Fate magazine, Professor Charles H. Hapgood explained the sensational discovery.

"Now this was extraordinary. In the first place, nobody is supposed to have discovered Antarctica until 1818, three hundred years after Piri Reis, and it is regarded as unthinkable that the Greeks, Romans, Babylonians or Phoenicians could have sailed that far. In the second place, the ice cap in Antarctica is supposed to be millions of years old, and therefore to have been in existence long before man evolved on earth. Mallerey´s suggestion (that someone had mapped the south polar continent before the ice cap originated) appeared outrageous and scientists in general refused to concern themselves with it."

It seems incredible that ancient cartographers had maps that were more accurate than the best charts produced today. Yet, Captain Mallerey stated that "it was evident that there was very little ice then, at either pole. But, secondly, they had a record, for example, of every mountain range in Northern Canada and Alaska, including some ranges that the Army Map Service did not have. The U.S. Army has since found them! Just how they were able to do it, we do not know. But, you will probably recall that the Greeks had the legend of an airplane. We don´t know how they could map so accurately without an airplane. But, map it they did. Not only that, but they knew their longitude correctly, something we could not do until two hundred years ago."
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Why would ultra ancient people so highly advanced make a map that weighs a ton?
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Are there any pictures of this map?
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>>Why would ultra ancient people so highly advanced make a map that weighs a ton?<<

Now that´s a good Question A/C.......
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The article states that they don´t have fix on the actual age of the map perhaps a few thousand years old but that it is only the rock itself that the map was made from that is millions of years old
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They made it weighing a ton because they didn´t have cars so didn´t have to worry about folding it up into the glove compartment
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The article also says it is only one piece of an entire world map that would have been 340 m x 340 m. As you can imagine im sure there are many war rooms or situation rooms in any given government agency that have large "world" maps so they can post situational data as related to what ever it is they are studied (ie. tactical information for war, weather maps, etc.). Infact the maps used in our naval vessels are also made of glass. Al be it, still 340 m by 340 m is still pretty F***in big. A world map more than a 1/4 of a kilometer big. They have must have been portraying a lot of detailed information on these maps.
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If it was part of a world map...then it was probably used daily or often and what better to make it out of stone so that it doesn´t wear out fast....the military often play war game scenarios...maybe it wasn´t military purpose but some type of ongoing planning/managing
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Obvious answer to the question, why put the map on stone, is because paper falls apart after a hundred years/bugs eat it/it burns and someone might be short of TP !
Also, idiots who have NO education will often destroy what they don´t understand, like the French artillary men who shot the nose off the Spinx, for fun.

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Old info, but still interesting. I´d like to meet the cartographers of the map.
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If the map was created by a previous civilization that had access to such a perspective, then moving heavy slabs around would be no problem.

It was probably situated in a rest stop for weary Atlantians.
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"Geological structure of the stab was determined: it cosists of three levels. The base is 14 cm chick, made of the firmest dolomite. The second level is probably the most interesting, “made” of diopside glas. The technology of its treatement is not known to modern science. Actually, the picture is marked on this level. While the third level is 2 mm thick and made of calcium porcelain protecting the map from external impact."

The back of it appears to be stone whild the map is actually in glass and then it has a protective porcelien layer. Obviously this map could have been used for anything. The article does say it shows damns and rivers on an immense scale. Perhaps it was used for civil engineering projects.
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Who wouldnt love to meet the creators of this map? It was the ancients! headbang
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Damn Aliens!alienshiprocket
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"Who wouldnt love to meet the creators of this map? It was the ancients!"

You may not be disappointed, AA. Think about it, if you were some ancient astronaut and saw that the Earth was populated by a primative culture wouldn´t you want some privacy until they got their act together? If you were advanced enough to put topographic info on a slab of rock AND move it around how much trouble would it be to hide out on or under the moon or Mars?
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awesome websites >>>

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>>Why would ultra ancient people so highly advanced make a map that weighs a ton?<<


They were sailors, and ate lots of spinach....
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The creator could have easily been an ancient civilization native to earth as easily as it could have been aliens. Who´s to say the map was meant to be moved around? It could have been meant to be stationary in one place. All though I do tend to believe someone people out there already know who made this. There are people inside of NASA who says that the face and "city" on mars is about 45 000 years old.
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According to the German Review ‘Das Vegetarishe Universum’, a Chinese archaeologist Chi Pu Tei discovered a series of graves arranged in rows in caves in the Bayan Kara Uula Mountains on the Chinese-Tibet borders in 1938. The cave walls were apparently decorated with figures in round helmets and the Sun, Moon and stars linked together by groups of small dots.

In these graves Chi Pu Tei and his assistants discovered 716 stone discs with drawings and indecipherable hieroglyphics which appeared to be thousands of years old. The discs had a hole in the centre (like a gramophone record) from which a double groove traces out a spiral to the circumference. They were not sound tracks but a kind of writing. "When finally freed of all incrustacians the discs were sent to Moscow where it was found that they contained large amounts of cobalt and that they were rhythmically pulsating as though they had electrical charges in them." (33)

The graves were also something of a puzzle in their own right as Chi Pu Tei stated that they contained the skeletons of beings with delicate frames and large skulls. An account of the discovery was made known to the world in 1967 by Dr. Zaitsev, an apparent Soviet philologist, in the periodical ‘Sputnik’. Dr. Zaitsev described how, after twenty years study, a Chinese scientist called Tsum Um Nui and four colleagues had succeeded in deciphering the mysterious script on the stone discs. According to Zaitsev, the story that emerged was so shattering that its release was banned by the then Peking Academy of PreHistory until 1963.
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Why this broad thread?
Difficult to read, always right left right ... scroll.
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Have a link tommyboy? Especially on what the writing said?
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There is no hint anywhere on the net that a man named Alexandr Chuvyrov has discovered some real artefacts.

I have heard that someone who invitated Chuvyrov to a conference, did never got in phone contact with him personally. And as expected, a few hours before the conference began, he canceled by some obviously faked reason (didn´t get visa in time, although invitation was several month before conference).
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Awesome site, if you care to read it all.
This site could lead you to do a lot more research on the many pieces of evidence that it presents.
Basically, humans or advanced beings were on earth upto 200 million years ago!

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