Where did the biblical God come from?

really? no one?

I ask because I do not buy this explanation:

Where did God come from?

We can only partially comprehend the notion of God's existence. To do so, we must use human concepts to speak of God: "without beginning or end"; "eternal"; "infinite", etc. The Bible says that He has always existed: " . . . even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God" (Psalm 90:2). And, "Your throne is established from of old; Thou art from everlasting" (Psalm 93:2). Quite simply, God has no beginning and no end. So, where did God come from? He didn't. He always was.
To us, the notion of time is linear. One second follows the next, one minute is after another. We get older, not younger and we cannot repeat the minutes that have passed us by. We have all seen the time lines on charts: early time is on the left and later time is on the right. We see nations, people's lives, and plans mapped out on straight lines from left to right. We see a beginning and an end. But God is "beyond the chart." He has no beginning or end. He simply has always been.
Also, physics has shown that time is a property that is the result of the existence of matter. Time exists when matter exists. Time has even been called the fourth dimension. But God is not matter. In fact, God created matter. He created the universe. So, time began when God created the universe. Before that, God was simply existing and time had no meaning (except conceptually), no relation to Him. Therefore, to ask where God came from is to ask a question that cannot really be applied to God in the first place. Because time has no meaning with God in relation to who He is, eternity is also not something that can be absolutely related to God. God is even beyond eternity.
Eternity is a term that we finite creatures use to express the concept of something that has no end -- and/or no beginning. Since God has no beginning or end, He has no beginning. This is because He is outside of time.




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Based on this, one of two things:

that "If matter does not exist, there is no time", then God is not matter, in which everything is matter, in which logically, it simply states that God does no exist.

the other is that if God existed, where did he exist before "things". inside of what? it must be some sort of matter. you cannot simply just 'be'. if he is a man, only men come from women. it directly states that God is 'Him' above.

Time is what generates matter, not the other way around.


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book preface by C. A. Muse.

book preface more important than book.

again, if everything is matter, and time generates it, where did Time begin then? what got that in motion? and if nothing did, only "God", God is not matter, only a phantom imagination blip, not existing.

Well ...
The definition of god can be found at REv. ch 1 verse 8.

"I am Aleph and Tau, the beginning and the ending says the
Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."


Now remap some of the verse to science.

"who is" = present
"who was" = past
"who is to come" = future


Translation:
I am the generator of the time waves ...
(the null wave), (the forward wave) and (the backward wave)
that allows all of the multiple universes to be.

The relationship of the waves to each other
sets all of the constants of physics,
for all of the various multi-verses.

I am external to time space energy and matter
because I produce the time flows.

So when God brings into existenance
(from human preception) the heavens and the earth he refers to this process as the Almighty.

Note that it is not the ALLmighty.
Only one "L" in the spelling, which has it's
own importance.... the Almighty.

Niiiiccceee.

the human brain.

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

beginning = Beyond the vanishing point.

It doesn't matter. If He is our creator we are only accountable to Him.

Peace!

that dances around any sort of true explanation.

unless his name is Al Mighty. Other than that, what you said is just a word, not an explanation.

Why doesn't it work?

Consider:

What caused the "Big Bang?"

What caused the compression of a universe of matter and energy into the size of a pinhead before the "Big Bang" happened?

What was the source of the energy that caused the "Big Bang" to occur?

What physical law(s) were being followed that caused the the "Big Bang" to occur?

From whence did these physical laws governing the "Big Bang" arise?

What intelligence (or chance) determined that those physical laws with governed the "Big Bang" were exactly the very physical laws that would cause a "Big Bang" to occur in the first place?

You just have not thought your problem out enough, student. Think. Explore. Learning. Test. Search.

You will find God.

Well dancing or not, the insight points you in the right direction. I am sure if you figure out how to ask god the question in a proper manner that he will tell you.

... in the last days all things will be revealed ...

I'm not saying I do not believe. I am on the fence here about this. it's 50/50 right now for me, and I tend to lean toward that there IS a God. I just don't believe the explanations.

They seem like cop outs, "its too big to understand" or "its infinite". Thats like saying "I'm too lazy to think about it, i'm just going to say 'it is because of all this runaround talk and fancy buzzwords"

Why not ask God himself? That's the most efffective and reliable way to find the answers you seek.

stop thinking in fantasy terms. "ask God". come on. No one can give a real answer.

Well, you can't trust you will receive an answer from someone you do not personally believe can answer…can you? I suppose you are stuck asking people.

What are you, the riddler? The runaround kills the topic

God created time, space and matter with the universe. He was before time existed.

God is omnipresent in heaven and on earth, Jesus and the Father.

Some day we shall understand better.

No, I am "Here I Am."

Your question was asked and answered several posts ago, by several people who cited what God himself has to say about who he is, and his infinite nature. What you do with those answers and whether you believe them or not, is completely up to you.

sorry double.

yeah but those are not the answers, it is doublespeak and buzzwords with no explanation beyond those fancy words

I do not know what to tell you except that from what I read, the answers were clear. You seek and find God with the heart. As long as that is closed to him it won't work.

Only you know your heart, and even then we do not really know it if it is not in tune with our creator. The heart is decietful above all things. That's one of the good reasons why we need God.

I understand what you are saying but I am not trying to find God, just the origin. Its two different things.

Where did the biblical God come from?

the Bible ?????

No man knows that. Only God knows of the "origin" (for lack of better term) of God. All we know is that there is no "time" as we know time in God's demension. And, we know that he is eternal.

Why do you seek to unravel this mystery? is it so that you can believe in him? Curiosity? To attempt to disprove God's infinite nature? Something else?

A few reasons, and I appreciate your honesty of "No one knows", as it pisses me off when people try to explain something with fancy runaround speak.

Also because I just really want to know, I'm at a point in my life where I want something up there taking care of me, or pointing me in a direction I can help myself. Not to disprove.

Well, it sure gets the mind all twisted up when we try to understand what eternity means. I will admit that it took me a long time to accept that there are things that I cannot understand. The thought of existing outside of time and space is just too big.

The only thing I know for sure is that God is the creator of the universe and I must trust that he is capable. If someone thinks about that and takes it seriously…..that is a sobering thought.

I know what you are feeling. Even as a person of faith there are times that God feels far away from me. But, I have found that when I feel that way it is me going away from him, not the reverse.

If you say this, God will hear you and respond:

God, thou art my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name's sake lead me, and guide me.
Psa 31:3

(I say that one allot) I liked talking with you. Goodnight.