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It is going to be an interesting day today for Obama. Hopefully something good will come of it...

[link to freedommarch.org]

Cort Wrotnowski and Leo Donofrio wait to hear the SCOTUS determination Monday morning. We did this last week,
but per Leo, this case has been improved and is more likely to be moved forward. The media blackout on all this
is interesting and saddening as well. The Globe had a breaking story today, and people don't usually take the tabloids
seriously. BUT The National Enquirer broke the John Edwards affair story which the LA Times had sat on for months.
It seems the tabloids can be more reliable than the MSM when it comes to accurately reporting.

Cross your fingers and pray for Cort and Leo. They're good guys and Patriots. I met them face-to-face. Regardless of the
SCOTUS ruling, many more people are aware of serious BO issues. This helps empower our nation. Obama's agenda is not
right for our country, and its our responsibility to contain him.


He may not be making MSM, but he is making the headlines!!!

GLOBE

Obama - Born in the USA?

[link to www.globemagazine.com]

PRESIDENT-elect Barack Obama is being rocked by a series of shocking new lawsuits charging his election was illegal! GLOBE's special report reveals why some national leaders believe his Hawaiian birth certificate was forged - and that America's next commander-in-chief was born in Kenya, which could doom his presidency. It's must reading.
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Still waiting on SCOTUS.

But in the meantime...

Obama eligibility question -- nonsense or a possible reprieve?

[link to www.renewamerica.us]

Anyone in this country who mentions the legal suits now being brought before state and federal courts about Barack Obama's citizenship question is seen as a fluke. The most common retort is "the American people have spoken" but have they?

In fact the sixty seven million people who voted for Barack Obama make up only twenty two percent of the entire population of this country. Regardless of how they voted seventy eight percent of the country remains largely in the dark due to a mainstream media blackout on the subject that could just be the calm before the storm.

The real issue the Obama eligibility question raises isn't about what the American people said, but it is about what was said to the American people.

In short they were told even if only by omission (un-vetted qualifications) that Barack Obama was perfectly eligible to be a candidate in accordance with the Constitution. In fact with or without the much disputed birth certificate, he is not.

Having admitted on his own website that his father was a British subject automatically disqualifies him under the "natural born citizen" requirements of the constitution. Now cases similar to "Cort Wrotnowski v. Susan Bysiewicz" which is awaiting the results of a Supreme Court conference are popping up across the nation.

Main stream media conspicuously silent on these cases may be in for a rude awakening. Those who are raising this question are more often than not constitutionalists without regard to political affiliation. They will not cease to raise the question before or after the inauguration but should it be post inaugural it can create even more of a national crisis than anyone has yet imagined.

Many ministers and Christian writers have begun to compare Obama with the bible's King Saul. (1 Samuel 8:1f) The ancient Israelites wanted a king to rule them like the surrounding nations rather than a theocracy with prophets and judges. God gave them what they wanted but not before he sent his prophet to warn them that the price would be paid in the lives of their young being called to military service, high taxes, poverty and other problems that would hound them for generations. The rest is history.

The present court cases that demand the vetting of Obama's candidacy to state attorneys general, election commission officials, members of the Electoral College and the Supreme Court is much like the warnings of old time but at the very least they are a reprieve for a nation to consider what it is about to do.

The equation may be exaggerated and oversimplified but it goes like this. If our top lawmaker and defender of the Constitution is in violation of its most fundamental laws then perhaps we should open our jails and prisons and let all the law breakers go home. This is an absurdity of course but not totally untenable to common reasoning. It is the idea of such an absurd and extreme outcome that speaks to the extreme conflict the Obama eligibility question is asking us to overlook. Isn't that a lot to ask even for those who voted for Obama?

It is what causes many people to question Barack Obama's promise for "change" and a new "transparency." If by change he meant that we could start a new era in America where the constitution isn't important anymore then why shouldn't we all be frightened?

If we have come to a leadership based on popularity, personality, political slogans or anything that precludes our laws then we cannot ignore our own impending demise as a world power.

Finally it does well to remember that throughout history any nation that wanted change and was willing to give up its lawful foundations was always presented with someone who personally promised a new day. Some of those you will remember were Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Castro and others. Those nations did get a new day and it turned out to be the day they rued.

There is still time to answer or resolve this very important question. I can safely predict that if I know anything at all about the American people it is that some who love this nation and its constitution will not let this subject abate until it has been lawfully and publicly satisfied.

At this point it doesn't matter whether Sen. Obama produces his birth certificate or not. What should matter is that he has spent approximately $800,000 in legal fees to suppress or cover up a document that costs only ten dollars to produce. Obama's promise of a new transparency is mocked by this fact.

On December 11, 2008 I submitted a blog entry to the Washington Times article posted Dec 10, 2008 entitled "Justices to mull Obama citizenship again" that best summarizes my position on the matter. I am not surprised to see by the many emails I have garnered from this statement that others feel pretty much the same way. Many veterans wrote to say thanks because they felt exactly as I do.

"The newest cases have nothing to do with producing the birth certificate but are dealing with the citizenship of Barack's father. Even Obama has admitted that his father was a British subject. That admission alone says constitutional law has been breached.

Secondly we must not lose sight of why we are in this fight, it isn't about saving face. It is about the law. Obama and the DNC will continue to slur any conservative effort on any level at any time. I think it's better to consider the source and keep up the fight.

Lastly, How dare we ask our service men and women to stand in harms way to defend us and our constitution if the very one who puts them in harms way isn't in compliance with it. I'll take a little razzing if I have to for the sake of our young soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines. They have a lot more to lose than a little dignity."

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Failed again. Ready to give it up now?
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They system will not work to destroy itself. Why do you keep looking to the system to attack itself. Wake up and leave this corruption behind.
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They system will not work to destroy itself. Why do you keep looking to the system to attack itself. Wake up and leave this corruption behind.
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The irony!
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Failed again. Ready to give it up now?
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That would be an unequivocal, NO!
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From Phil Bergs site:

Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz: SCOTUS Denies Application for Stay/Injunction

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December 15th, 2008
The Supreme Court orders denied Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz application for staying the election as well as requesting that the Court would grant an injunction disallowing the Electoral College to hold its vote today until Barack Obama’s eligibility could be finally determined:

08A469

WROTNOWSKI, CORT V. BYSIEWICZ, CT SEC. OF STATE

The application for stay and/or injunction addressed

to Justice Scalia and referred to the Court is denied.

CitizenWells’ letter to the Electoral College presents the next potential opporutnity along the process of attempting to inform the nation about Barack Obama’s seeming ineligibility to serve in the office of the President. Also, I have my thoughts on the next steps in this process.

A current listing of eligibility lawsuits can be found here.

State-based initiatives for electoral reform can be found here.

Naturally, this posting will be updated as circumstances warrant.

Update: CitizenWells isn’t happy about this decision at all. Read up on what he’s doing about it.

Update: InvestigatingObama’s question may be “asked and answered:” Is the Judicial Review Allowed Only After the Electoral College Vote?

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Failed again. Ready to give it up now?

That would be an unequivocal, NO!
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I am with you! This needs to be finished and he needs to come clean.
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These white commie liberals scare the bajesus out of me....
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Here is another thought:

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MONDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2008
Is the Judicial Review Allowed Only After the Electoral College Vote and Congressional Certification?

Is this why the Donofrio v. Wells (NJ) case is still pending? Is it only after the Electoral College votes, today, that the Supreme Court believes it may take action regarding the eligibility of presidential candidates? The cases currently before the court, except for the Berg (PA) case, are versus state secretaries of state, not against Barack Obama, but perhaps that does not make a difference.
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He really doesn't need a major works program.

All he needs to do is issue a Presidential order stating that as of a given date in 2009, everything the US government and the military purchases has to be made in the USA and made by proven US citizens.

That alone will create thousands and thousands of jobs. No more military planes bought from France when Boeing is made here. No more tanks bought from elsewhere when they could be made in the closed auto plants.

No more foreign suppliers for office supplies.

It might even revive our own electronics industry and we would have some American made computers and TV's and radios and all other electronic systems.
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So true!
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[link to www.globemagazine.com]

It is AMAZING that not ONE REAL NEWS publication has truly taken the time to looke deeply into this issues.

Head in the sand again..... don't look.... don't tell attitude about Obaman.

Preview of coming attractions.
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It is AMAZING that not ONE REAL NEWS publication has truly taken the time to looke deeply into this issues.

Head in the sand again..... don't look.... don't tell attitude about Obaman.

Preview of coming attractions.
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US Media

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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
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food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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It is AMAZING that not ONE REAL NEWS publication has truly taken the time to looke deeply into this issues.

Head in the sand again..... don't look.... don't tell attitude about Obaman.

Preview of coming attractions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554626



Or it could be... it's not REAL NEWS.
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U.S. S.Ct. rejects another appeal questioning Obama's citizenship

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From CNN Supreme Court Producer Bill Mears

The U.S. Supreme Court rejected a second appeal Monday challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Supreme Court has dismissed a second emergency appeal questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president because he had dual British-American citizenship at birth.

The justices without comment on Monday refused to intervene in the November 4 presidential election, dismissing the claims of Cort Wrotnowski, a resident of Greenwich, Connecticut.

In his appeal, Wrotnowski claimed that because Obama's father was a Kenyan-born British subject, the president-elect does meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural born citizen" of the United States. Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. His mother was a U.S. citizen, born in the United States.

Many legal analysts questioned Wrotnowski's argument.


"The law has always been understood to be, if you are born here, you're a natural born citizen," said Thomas Goldstein, founder of the Scotusblog.com Web site and a lawyer who has argued numerous cases before the high court. "And that is particularly true in this case, when you have a U.S. citizen parent like Barack Obama's mother."

Interesting how the SCOTUS is dismissing these cases "without comment"...

A similar appeal was rejected a week ago by the high court, from a retired lawyer in New Jersey.

In another lawsuit making its way through the courts, Philip Berg of Pennsylvania alleges the president-elect was actually born in Kenya. Berg claims Hawaiian officials will not let him see Obama's original birth certificate, although the campaign posted a copy of it online this summer, following numerous blog postings over the citizenship question. That case had previously been dismissed by lower federal courts.

The appeal rejected Monday is Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz (08A469).

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U.S. S.Ct. rejects another appeal questioning Obama's citizenship

[link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com]

From CNN Supreme Court Producer Bill Mears

The U.S. Supreme Court rejected a second appeal Monday challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Supreme Court has dismissed a second emergency appeal questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president because he had dual British-American citizenship at birth.

The justices without comment on Monday refused to intervene in the November 4 presidential election, dismissing the claims of Cort Wrotnowski, a resident of Greenwich, Connecticut.

In his appeal, Wrotnowski claimed that because Obama's father was a Kenyan-born British subject, the president-elect does meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural born citizen" of the United States. Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. His mother was a U.S. citizen, born in the United States.

Many legal analysts questioned Wrotnowski's argument.


"The law has always been understood to be, if you are born here, you're a natural born citizen," said Thomas Goldstein, founder of the Scotusblog.com Web site and a lawyer who has argued numerous cases before the high court. "And that is particularly true in this case, when you have a U.S. citizen parent like Barack Obama's mother."

Interesting how the SCOTUS is dismissing these cases "without comment"...
A similar appeal was rejected a week ago by the high court, from a retired lawyer in New Jersey.

In another lawsuit making its way through the courts, Philip Berg of Pennsylvania alleges the president-elect was actually born in Kenya. Berg claims Hawaiian officials will not let him see Obama's original birth certificate, although the campaign posted a copy of it online this summer, following numerous blog postings over the citizenship question. That case had previously been dismissed by lower federal courts.

The appeal rejected Monday is Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz (08A469).

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Yeah, something is up.
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It is AMAZING that not ONE REAL NEWS publication has truly taken the time to looke deeply into this issues.

Head in the sand again..... don't look.... don't tell attitude about Obaman.

Preview of coming attractions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554626

Like where have you been since GHWB took the White house? Since the Gulf War the "REAL NEWS" publicans have been publishing shit... in perfect lock step with whatever schemes the gov has had for conning the people.

Oh, well, just one more State Legislature Call for a Constitution Convention and all of this current crap going on will look like a nice sunny picnic days where even the ants are behaving themselves.
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I'd like to know where all you folks,
who know so much about how Obama is going to send us all to hell in a handbasket, were eight years ago, when Bush took the reigns?

Just curious.

Did you predict T.W.O.T.?
(The War On Terror)

Did you all know in advance how Bush and his criminal Administration was going to run the nation onto the rocks?

Could it be that no one predicted these things that Bush has done, because he is a white man?
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Pretty much what I thought.
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Failed again. Ready to give it up now?

That would be an unequivocal, NO!
 Quoting: ShowMe State of Mind


What to do...what to do...

The OP (and many other posters with similar threads) is like a new dog that poops in the house, and then gets physically and verbally reprimanded by his owner in attempts to correct the behavior. But the dog continues to poop in the house and thus his owner continues to reprimand him again and again, all to no avail. So, the dog's owner, saddened by the dog's inability to learn, takes the pet to a shelter where he's put in an enclosure awaiting adoption (or a less desirable outcome). While the dog's fate becomes even less certain, at least for now he can poop where he sleeps.
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I'd like to know where all you folks,
who know so much about how Obama is going to send us all to hell in a handbasket, were eight years ago, when Bush took the reigns?

Just curious.

Did you predict T.W.O.T.?
(The War On Terror)

Did you all know in advance how Bush and his criminal Administration was going to run the nation onto the rocks?

Could it be that no one predicted these things that Bush has done, because he is a white man?
 Quoting: Ikaika

That's part of it.

Then again, some of these people LIKE what's happened to the US in the last 8 years. Makes no sense to me, but here we are.
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You know, this just doesn't involve America anymore.
It also involves Americas allies who have to go into whatever war the Americans feel fit to start.

If we are forced into supporting a war with our militaries lives and our taxpayers money, you'd better make damn sure that your President is legal.

It just doesn't have ramifications for the U.S but it's allies as well.

I hope they keep up the fight and make Obama prove that he has the legal right as POTUS and Commander in Chief to send our people (who are Americas allies) to war.
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I wish people would forget about bush and what he did or didn`t do.His term is over and I`m sure you don`t want to go through those 8 years again.Personally I think Bush did his best with what he hsd hsnded to him.But this is a start of something new and I believe that every one has the right to challenge Mr Obamma for the truths of what he stands for and who he really is.Think about this. We don`t even know what his name is,and I don`t want to hear that he is about change.I want to know what these changes are !!!
SIMPLY STATED ,I DON`T TRUST HIM.
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The OP is so ignorant, that the post is "Obama vs SCOTUS" there is no "vs" about it. The OP is clueless about the Constitution, and makes things up, and never gives up, like a moth to a flame.
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He is the anointed one, chosen by tptb nwo.
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the guy could invent a time machine, kidnap you, drag you back in time and take you to his birth, and you would still try to find an excuse not to let it go

Dont worry, pretty common human trait
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He has a valid birth certificate.Barack has an American father and looks a whole lot more like him than he does his so called Kenyan Dad. This is a private matter and I wish they could leave it that way. Obama is not yet in office. PLEASE give him a chance! hf
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Wrotnowski said that since Obama had dual nationality at birth — his mother was American, his Kenyan father was a British subject — he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen."
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WHY in the FUCK do you KEEP posting that bullshit?

It's NOT true, as ANY reputable Attorney will tell you. Just NOT fucking true!




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