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Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now
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Something Other
User ID: 497216
 United States
12/19/2008 10:01 AM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
I can't wait to hear what G. House and Duncan have to say about this!
So I take it you've never forgotten something and had to go back and get it? Quoting: G. House
Alright he's here, impart your knowledge on us! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 362124
United States
12/19/2008 10:06 AM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
Sorry to yous above.
I see you are on the other side of the issue and poking at others.
I just commonly see other folks dying for a few words from other people to make them feel better about their own thoughts.
Pet peewee of mine. |
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Anka
User ID: 483886
United States
12/19/2008 10:11 AM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
You have great insight. The first chemtrail I observed was 50 miles south of Cape Canaveral at about April 1997. This I later learned was the beginning of massive spraying. I thought at first it was a launch from the cape. The exhaust trail was huge. But then I realized the trail began east of the cape out in the area of the Bermuda Triangle. I've been looking up everyday since. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023
"But then I realized the trail began east of the cape out in the area of the Bermuda Triangle."
So zap that portal with a combination of white and violet rays. Farfetched? Not really, you can do it. What if you'd been told all your life that it was impossible for you to swim in water, but one day you tried it?
RAYS TUTORIAL
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
(Forget the Scarab Ring, they're no longer for sale. You don't need it anyway, it was simply an enhancer. I haven't used one for years.)
You can shut down the CT spraying with but a few seconds of focused work which should then last for a few weeks, i.e., no CT's. Aim for the area where you see the "planes" coming into our reality. This is a "portal". (The portals here are located at White Sands to the east and China Lake to the west.) Think that you're closing that portal while you focus on it, dominant arm and first finger pointed at it.
PRACTICE - this ray business is like anything else, you've got to work at it a bit.
Also, if you do happen to spot a "spewplane", give it a whack. You have to sight in on the danged thing, just like sharp-shooting at a moving target. I use my outstreched arm, the first finger extended, the tip of the finger serving as a "sight". It might take a minute or so to actually hit the "plane" (I aim just ahead of it and let it fly into the "beam".), but if you do manage to connect, you might be surprised to see it disappear. The first time this happened to me I was quite astounded.
Back in 2005, I was camping in the desert for months. Taught the hippies at the hot springs how to break up a CT trail being laid, that is, create a big gap in the trail. They caught on real quick... |
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afa
User ID: 401041
United States
12/19/2008 10:13 AM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
I can't wait to hear what G. House and Duncan have to say about this!
So I take it you've never forgotten something and had to go back and get it? Quoting: G. House
G.HOUSE quit flying those planes! |
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anonymous
User ID: 575563
United States
12/19/2008 10:18 AM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
You have great insight. The first chemtrail I observed was 50 miles south of Cape Canaveral at about April 1997. This I later learned was the beginning of massive spraying. I thought at first it was a launch from the cape. The exhaust trail was huge. But then I realized the trail began east of the cape out in the area of the Bermuda Triangle. I've been looking up everyday since.
"But then I realized the trail began east of the cape out in the area of the Bermuda Triangle."
So zap that portal with a combination of white and violet rays. Farfetched? Not really, you can do it. What if you'd been told all your life that it was impossible for you to swim in water, but one day you tried it?
RAYS TUTORIAL
[ link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]
(Forget the Scarab Ring, they're no longer for sale. You don't need it anyway, it was simply an enhancer. I haven't used one for years.)
You can shut down the CT spraying with but a few seconds of focused work which should then last for a few weeks, i.e., no CT's. Aim for the area where you see the "planes" coming into our reality. This is a "portal". (The portals here are located at White Sands to the east and China Lake to the west.) Think that you're closing that portal while you focus on it, dominant arm and first finger pointed at it.
PRACTICE - this ray business is like anything else, you've got to work at it a bit.
Also, if you do happen to spot a "spewplane", give it a whack. You have to sight in on the danged thing, just like sharp-shooting at a moving target. I use my outstreched arm, the first finger extended to serve as a "sight". It might take a minute or so to actually hit the "plane" (I aim just ahead of it and let it fly into the "beam", but if you do manage to connect, you might be surprised to see it disappear. The first time this happened to me I was quite astounded.
Back in 2005, I was camping in the desert for months. Taught the hippies at the hot springs how to break up a CT trail being laid, that is, create a big gap in the trail. They caught on real quick...
did you sweep up dead birds insects and bees off land areas and gather up thedead fish from the chem trails..to prevent cross contamination. |
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Zephyros
User ID: 562066
 New Zealand
12/19/2008 3:58 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
This is an interesting chemtrail thread. The idea that UFO's are involved in the trails is correct. I suspected it a long time ago. Now I have photos of UFO's flying these trails.
As one of the posts suggest, they may appear like an airplane, but actually be UFO's. I have photos of that as well. [ link to picasaweb.google.com]
Please have a look. I just uploaded these. Click forward, about 10 of these, 3 different kinds.
[ link to picasaweb.google.com]
Thanks for those. I remembered these pics of yours from some time ago: [ link to picasaweb.google.com]
[ link to picasaweb.google.com]
[ link to picasaweb.google.com]
Don't look for a saucer-shape. Now do you see the craft? Pretty creepy. AND HUGE...
Off-topic here a bit, here's what followed my car for forty miles in 2005: [ link to i18.photobucket.com]
[ link to i18.photobucket.com]
And, what in the hell is THIS? NOT photo-enhanced, but the jelly-fish thingy wasn't visible to the naked eye:
[ link to i18.photobucket.com]
Photos of chemtrails here several years ago. We've not had them for a very long time now since I began my little "clearing" routine. I do this about once a month, which seems to work.
[ link to i18.photobucket.com]
[ link to i18.photobucket.com]
We absolutley must escape from the control of matrix-programming, what passes as the consensus reality. Remember, not that long ago the consensus reality was that the Earth was flat. Think how "they" had a real hissy-fit about Galileo.
Chemtrails are NOT created by real earth-based planes. Got it?
The jelly-fish thingy is lens-flare. The optical system in your camera is not the same as the one in your eyes.
In 2005 you were chased "for forty miles" by a mountain-wave cloud. Nice photo, by the way.
Interesting. Thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 549482
United States
12/19/2008 4:03 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
ya
it is a lens flare.
BUT I have seen the orbs...much more clearly than most of the photos and videos I have seen. I do have quite a bit of video, myself, of them. Some leaving trails. Some not. |
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Da Swede
User ID: 575815
 Sweden
12/19/2008 4:11 PM
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This is an interesting chemtrail thread. The idea that UFO's are involved in the trails is correct. I suspected it a long time ago. Now I have photos of UFO's flying these trails.
As one of the posts suggest, they may appear like an airplane, but actually be UFO's. I have photos of that as well. [ link to picasaweb.google.com]
Please have a look. I just uploaded these. Click forward, about 10 of these, 3 different kinds.
[ link to picasaweb.google.com]
I can only agree, TEX...UFO´s are involved in the spraying, both as the sprayer, and as seemingly monitoring what looks like regular planes.
There are lies, damned lies and 9-11!
[link to bryce2-2u.freeservers.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8107
United States
12/19/2008 4:16 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
I can't wait to hear what G. House and Duncan have to say about this! Quoting: Something Other
Well, DUH!
What's to say?
We're in the middle of winter storms this week over most of the United States.
This means that the weather is cooler and damper than normal.
Since contrails persist when the conditions at altitude is cold and damp (i.w., temps of minus 40 deg or less and RH of saturated) you are bound to see more contrails now than before.
When the storm system passes, you wil start seeing less persistent contrails, because the temperature at altitude will be higher than minus 40 deg, and the RA will be less than saturated, or both.
You don't need a debunker for this thread; you just need someone who actually finished high-school science. |
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Duncan Kunz 
The Debunker King
User ID: 8107
United States
12/19/2008 4:18 PM
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Oops! Above was mine, typos and all.
I forgot to log in.
It must be the influence of the "chem-trails".
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 575811
United States
12/19/2008 4:22 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
Heavy spraying in Dallas. Must be trying to bring the temperature down. Which is currently hovering around 75 degrees. It was freezing and snowing here on Tuesday. |
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idol_harobed
User ID: 297864
 Brazil
12/19/2008 4:24 PM
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1) "Chemtrails" are just normal condensation trails.
2) The so-called chemtrail haze is just virga.
3) Criss-cross patterns, asterisks, As, Vs, Xs in the sky form because planes follow radio beacons.
4) Contrail persistence is a function of air relative humidity.
5) On/off trails occur because the plane flies through pockets of dryer air.
6) There is the storage problem addressed in the "Problem for the chemtrail believers" thread.
7) Aluminum oxide emission is caused by SRMs.
8) Barium compounds emission is caused by mining and refining industrial processes.
I am what I read. |
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Duncan Kunz
The Debunker King
User ID: 8107
United States
12/19/2008 4:24 PM
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Heavy spraying in Dallas. Must be trying to bring the temperature down. Which is currently hovering around 75 degrees. It was freezing and snowing here on Tuesday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 575811
Well, it's still not going to help Romo and your stupid Cowboys get into the playoffs.
So there!!
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim? |
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EvEolution
User ID: 551857
United States
12/19/2008 4:36 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
This is an interesting chemtrail thread. The idea that UFO's are involved in the trails is correct. I suspected it a long time ago. Now I have photos of UFO's flying these trails.
As one of the posts suggest, they may appear like an airplane, but actually be UFO's. I have photos of that as well. [ link to picasaweb.google.com]
Please have a look. I just uploaded these. Click forward, about 10 of these, 3 different kinds.
[ link to picasaweb.google.com]
OK...I don't want to be rude or anything, but I looked at your photos...I see clouds..just...CLOUDS! I have quite an imagination, but could see nothing more than ...CLOUDS. Perhaps you can take some of the photos into photoshop and circle the "objects" you are talking about, or perhaps even outline them. That would be helpful to people like me who don't see what you see.
Thanks!
"To be human is to struggle between instincts of animal savagery and the beckoning of spiritual enlightenment." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 575811
United States
12/19/2008 4:41 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
Heavy spraying in Dallas. Must be trying to bring the temperature down. Which is currently hovering around 75 degrees. It was freezing and snowing here on Tuesday.
Well, it's still not going to help Romo and your stupid Cowboys get into the playoffs.
So there!! Quoting: Duncan Kunz
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Da Swede
User ID: 575815
Sweden
12/19/2008 4:57 PM
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OK...I don't want to be rude or anything, but I looked at your photos...I see clouds..just...CLOUDS! I have quite an imagination, but could see nothing more than ...CLOUDS. Perhaps you can take some of the photos into photoshop and circle the "objects" you are talking about, or perhaps even outline them. That would be helpful to people like me who don't see what you see.
Thanks! Quoting: EvEolution
Ok, look at this pict...
[link to www.ufocasebook.com]
a very obvious UFO close to spraying planes.. I have seen this many times, as well as spraying UFO´s.
TEXAS see similar clouds as I see here, very unnatural looking, especially seen live, harder to convey in pictures.
I have pictures of smaller UFO´s in and around the clouds, and they are probably hiding large ships in them. But I´m just assuming this, no proof yet.
There are lies, damned lies and 9-11!
[link to bryce2-2u.freeservers.com] |
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Da Swede
User ID: 575815
Sweden
12/19/2008 5:02 PM
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1) "Chemtrails" are just normal condensation trails.
2) The so-called chemtrail haze is just virga.
3) Criss-cross patterns, asterisks, As, Vs, Xs in the sky form because planes follow radio beacons.
4) Contrail persistence is a function of air relative humidity.
5) On/off trails occur because the plane flies through pockets of dryer air.
6) There is the storage problem addressed in the "Problem for the chemtrail believers" thread.
7) Aluminum oxide emission is caused by SRMs.
8) Barium compounds emission is caused by mining and refining industrial processes. Quoting: idol_harobed
You are just as good as me with the copy-and-paste routine..impressive!!
I just don´t agree on no.1. that´s all...
There are lies, damned lies and 9-11!
[link to bryce2-2u.freeservers.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 575838
 United Kingdom
12/19/2008 5:04 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
Something big is at hand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023
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idol_harobed
User ID: 297864
Brazil
12/19/2008 5:06 PM
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Heavy spraying in Dallas. Must be trying to bring the temperature down. Which is currently hovering around 75 degrees. It was freezing and snowing here on Tuesday.
Well, it's still not going to help Romo and your stupid Cowboys get into the playoffs.
So there!! Quoting: Duncan Kunz
What avatar is that, Duncan? You are an intelligent man, way above average.
I am what I read. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 497757
United States
12/19/2008 5:06 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
So true, while I was waiting for my glasses this morning, the November issue of Motor Trend had adds with cars and
Chemtrails throughout the sky, OMG! |
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Anka
User ID: 483886
United States
12/19/2008 5:22 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
1) "Chemtrails" are just normal condensation trails.
2) The so-called chemtrail haze is just virga.
3) Criss-cross patterns, asterisks, As, Vs, Xs in the sky form because planes follow radio beacons.
4) Contrail persistence is a function of air relative humidity.
5) On/off trails occur because the plane flies through pockets of dryer air.
6) There is the storage problem addressed in the "Problem for the chemtrail believers" thread.
7) Aluminum oxide emission is caused by SRMs.
8) Barium compounds emission is caused by mining and refining industrial processes. Quoting: idol_harobed
YEP, and, furthermore, they're GOOD for us!
Virga? Virga doesn't look like CT haze, but never mind.
QUOTE
3) Criss-cross patterns, asterisks, As, Vs, Xs in the sky form because planes follow radio beacons.
END QUOTE
The airways tend to be straight lines across the sky. VOR's also tend to be laid out in straight lines. Oh well... |
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Anka
User ID: 483886
United States
12/19/2008 5:24 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
Oops! Above was mine, typos and all.
I forgot to log in.
It must be the influence of the "chem-trails". Quoting: Duncan Kunz
Duncan! Nice to see you here. Where have you been?
love,
lorae |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 562066
New Zealand
12/19/2008 5:28 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
Ok, look at this pict...
[ link to www.ufocasebook.com]
a very obvious UFO close to spraying planes.. I have seen this many times, as well as spraying UFO´s.
TEXAS see similar clouds as I see here, very unnatural looking, especially seen live, harder to convey in pictures.
I have pictures of smaller UFO´s in and around the clouds, and they are probably hiding large ships in them. But I´m just assuming this, no proof yet.
... or it could be a bird. |
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Anka
User ID: 483886
United States
12/19/2008 5:29 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
This is an interesting chemtrail thread. The idea that UFO's are involved in the trails is correct. I suspected it a long time ago. Now I have photos of UFO's flying these trails.
As one of the posts suggest, they may appear like an airplane, but actually be UFO's. I have photos of that as well. [ link to picasaweb.google.com]
Please have a look. I just uploaded these. Click forward, about 10 of these, 3 different kinds.
[ link to picasaweb.google.com]
Thanks for those. I remembered these pics of yours from some time ago: [ link to picasaweb.google.com]
[ link to picasaweb.google.com]
[ link to picasaweb.google.com]
Don't look for a saucer-shape. Now do you see the craft? Pretty creepy. AND HUGE...
Off-topic here a bit, here's what followed my car for forty miles in 2005: [ link to i18.photobucket.com]
[ link to i18.photobucket.com]
And, what in the hell is THIS? NOT photo-enhanced, but the jelly-fish thingy wasn't visible to the naked eye:
[ link to i18.photobucket.com]
Photos of chemtrails here several years ago. We've not had them for a very long time now since I began my little "clearing" routine. I do this about once a month, which seems to work.
[ link to i18.photobucket.com]
[ link to i18.photobucket.com]
We absolutley must escape from the control of matrix-programming, what passes as the consensus reality. Remember, not that long ago the consensus reality was that the Earth was flat. Think how "they" had a real hissy-fit about Galileo.
Chemtrails are NOT created by real earth-based planes. Got it?
The jelly-fish thingy is lens-flare. The optical system in your camera is not the same as the one in your eyes.
In 2005 you were chased "for forty miles" by a mountain-wave cloud. Nice photo, by the way.
Interesting. Thanks.
I thought maybe lens flare, but BEHIND the cloud?
No wind the day that "cloud" followed my car. Don't know what happened to it, because the sun went down. Just posting those pics for the heck of it, not trying to push an agenda. |
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Zephyros
User ID: 562066
New Zealand
12/19/2008 5:33 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
1) "Chemtrails" are just normal condensation trails.
2) The so-called chemtrail haze is just virga.
3) Criss-cross patterns, asterisks, As, Vs, Xs in the sky form because planes follow radio beacons.
4) Contrail persistence is a function of air relative humidity.
5) On/off trails occur because the plane flies through pockets of dryer air.
6) There is the storage problem addressed in the "Problem for the chemtrail believers" thread.
7) Aluminum oxide emission is caused by SRMs.
8) Barium compounds emission is caused by mining and refining industrial processes.
You are just as good as me with the copy-and-paste routine..impressive!!
I just don´t agree on no.1. that´s all... Quoting: Da Swede
The notion that contrails always dissipate in a short time is false. In fact, contrails formed in ice-saturated conditions do NOT dissipate in a short time, but will persist for a few hours and sometimes a lot longer.
The water vapor will condense (forming a contrail) if the mixture of jet exhaust gases becomes saturated with respect to water. If the temperature is below the crystal homogeneous nucleation temperature (−42 °C), as it usually is when contrails form, the condensed water droplets freeze. This occurs almost immediately after the droplets have condensed. So contrails are ice clouds.
Ice clouds, including contrails, cannot dissipate (evaporate) in ice-saturated conditions; that is when the relative humidity with respect to ice is greater than 100%.
Everything is observed of these long lasting contrails (called "chemtrails" by some) can be explained in terms of the air routes that jets travel, translation by the wind, spreading by wind-shear, the inhomogeneity of humidity, change of temperature with altitude, and so on. |
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Anka
User ID: 483886
United States
12/19/2008 5:35 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
ya
it is a lens flare.
BUT I have seen the orbs...much more clearly than most of the photos and videos I have seen. I do have quite a bit of video, myself, of them. Some leaving trails. Some not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 549482
Oh, let's talk about something else before this thread degenerates into the usual...
Orbs anyone? I haven't a clue as to what they are.
Some pics:
[link to s18.photobucket.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 318585
 Bulgaria
12/19/2008 5:36 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
  
They even sprey us here in Eastern Europe. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 575871
United States
12/19/2008 5:39 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
another heavt day of spraying here in my state..
musta seen 20 or more of em...
will see heavy rains or odd weather in 3 days or less...
been keeping track of this for 8 months now....90 + % of the time....when I see the heavy trails, the weather gets bad or it rains/ sleets, etc...
it cant be all a coincidecne....
I used to be a doubter of it....years ago...not anymore.. |
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idol_harobed
User ID: 297864
Brazil
12/19/2008 5:41 PM
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3) Criss-cross patterns, asterisks, As, Vs, Xs in the sky form because planes follow radio beacons.
END QUOTE
The airways tend to be straight lines across the sky. VOR's also tend to be laid out in straight lines. Oh well... Quoting: Anka
Straight lines that are not necessarily parallel, thus they form A's, V's and X's in the sky.
I am what I read. |
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PB
User ID: 548017
United States
12/19/2008 5:41 PM | | Re: Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now | Quote |
ya
it is a lens flare.
BUT I have seen the orbs...much more clearly than most of the photos and videos I have seen. I do have quite a bit of video, myself, of them. Some leaving trails. Some not.
Oh, let's talk about something else before this thread degenerates into the usual...
Orbs anyone? I haven't a clue as to what they are.
Some pics:
[ link to s18.photobucket.com]
Those sure look like some kind of camera artifacts, But I'm not an expert. |
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