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Jesus is Satan in disguise

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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this is false, Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert, and he quickly overcame him.
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Says who? The bible story of Satan disguised as Jesus? Remember Satan is the father of lies so the first thing he would do as a being of light is to transfigure his self into something that doesn't appear to be Satan. He knew that if everyone believed in him, he would gain the entire world and all the souls therein.
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Obviously OP..you just don't know who Jesus really is because you never tried to seek him and because its too hard for you to even try
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Wow, how sad to have boiled down the entirety of the life of Jesus the way you have. You really don't get it, do you? To attempt to dissect such an absurd notion would require a level of intellect and philosophy that you clearly have no interest in engaging. These arguments have been made since the 1st century, by the Romans themselves. There is writ after writ, edict after edict, that answers all of your questions of this nature, in detail and depth. This is why the Catholic Church adheres to Sacred Scriptures, Holy Tradition, and the Holy Magisterium as the core of the faith. Trying to prove Jesus was Satan with a couple biblical passages, without even beginning to understand their context, in their original languages, without even bothering with a full fledged exegesis is downright foolish. I don't know why I wasted my time responding to this, but it just hit a raw nerve.
 Quoting: Theo 517588


This is a prime example of an ignorant ass who supposes I am 13 years old, and an atheist and have pondered the entire Bible for 30 minutes. You do realize I have studied the Bible for some 31 years now, have thought about those meanings almost every single day since then and have overcome every aspect in my own life that it prescribes. This is not a whim but a calculated and sincere realization.

Perhaps you'd better go back and read the story of Jacob and Esau so you'll understand without condemning me for summarizing my feelings in a few short sentences, that what has been done is that the firstborn creation of God (Satan) came to Earth in the form of Jesus and sold his brother out (The Church/Us) in return for a simple meal (his deity and crucifixion). Read it and you'll understand what the whole trick is.

Jesus is none other than the black sheep.
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Obviously OP..you just don't know who Jesus really is because you never tried to seek him and because its too hard for you to even try
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I speak to God within my own self and most of what you obviously know comes from a book.

If your brother came to you, and forbade you to ask your father for anything unless you go through him first, what would you think or say? Is that the preaching you Christians now profess. Now you know why Revelation calls you the synagogue of Satan.

Clearly, you need to quit listening to your pastors who are also children of hell.
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One more thing to add as evidence.

In the Old Testament doesn't God forbid human sacrifice as payment for sins?? It is strictly forbidden as a blood sacrifice, yet here comes God's supposed Son to do just the opposite as atonement.

Complete utter bullshit. Christians have been had.
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In the Old Testament doesn't God forbid human sacrifice as payment for sins?? It is strictly forbidden as a blood sacrifice, yet here comes God's supposed Son to do just the opposite as atonement.
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He left the world still in sin with a promise to return when the timing was right, but he won't. He even placed him self as heir to the throne of God and said no one can come to God unless you go through him first.
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GIVE THEM RESTLESSNESS

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Just because you forgot to add the truth is that this is gnosticism 101.

I am sorry for you.
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The serpent on the Eden is Enki
Jesus is son of Enki

he will came to install the kingdom of his father/.
we will know the true, and the true will set us free.

History was written by the ones in control and the ones in control are not the good guys
  Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking
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The serpent on the Eden is Enki
Jesus is son of Enki

he will came to install the kingdom of his father/.
we will know the true, and the true will set us free.

History was written by the ones in control and the ones in control are not the good guys
 Quoting: fërú.




Sorry. Last Act. They want your soul.

Gnosticism is SO EVIL.
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duh - jesus admits it in revelation 22:16 - totally fesses up

[link to bible.cc]
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Seriously, for those who know he played a trick on everyone and disguised himself as the son of God.

He left the world still in sin with a promise to return when the timing was right, but he won't.

He even placed him self as heir to the throne of God and said no one can come to God unless you go through him first.

Doesn't that sound like a greedy person?

If my own brother made those kinds of demands, I would punch him in the teeth.


Yup, close enough. Techically speaking Jesus = Lucifer, as "Satan" is actually a conglomerate name for the mortal descendents of Lucifer.

Lucifer's used the "love" drag countless times over the ages, hence the reason for all the identical stories with different names.

Welcome to the battery vat Neo. hf


You guys are complete deceivers LIARS
pope2 The pope is the antichrist power of Satan that did come in the name of Christ.
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Right, and even though BOTH your own "church" and the Catholic church preach the EXACT same basic BULLSHIT, YOUR church is the one telling the "truth". rolleyes
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Saxon (777)

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f. the freemasons, Jesus is the King of his Church.
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Yes, Jesus/Lucifer is the king of his church, i.e. YOU.
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Saxon (777)

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There are people who truly believe this. Weird.


We have good company, those who wrote your Bible and run all the "brotherhood" groups of the world know it as well.

Weird.


No human man/woman on this earth will ever be able to prove what you believe to be true except you proving it to you.

No man can provide absolute spiritual proof or truth to another. Not even you. Impossible.
 Quoting: Here I Am


And not even YOU can "prove" your bullshit "bible" to be "true. So what's your point?
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You know what. I can incorporate some sweet videos but I don't want to get banned again. So stop baiting me.

You know I would just like to......
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Just because you forgot to add the truth is that this is gnosticism 101.

I am sorry for you.
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Sorry for you too. God forbid that God want to talk with man directly as opposed through some 2000 year old dead guy who says you should believe him through writings passed down after he died by some unidentified followers. Yeah right. God would never just have a personal relationship with people directly, would he?
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Just because you forgot to add the truth is that this is gnosticism 101.

I am sorry for you.


Sorry for you too. God forbid that God want to talk with man directly as opposed through some 2000 year old dead guy who says you should believe him through writings passed down after he died by some unidentified followers. Yeah right. God would never just have a personal relationship with people directly, would he?
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And NOR would he just happen to come back at the END of this age, just like all the ancient texts said he would, with the exception of the bullshit "bible". rolleyes
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bump I was always interested in gnostic theories.

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VERY chilling lines, if you believe in predictive programming, 'hidden in plain sight' and all that.
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Seriously, for those who know he played a trick on everyone and disguised himself as the son of God.

He left the world still in sin with a promise to return when the timing was right, but he won't.

He even placed him self as heir to the throne of God and said no one can come to God unless you go through him first.

Doesn't that sound like a greedy person?

If my own brother made those kinds of demands, I would punch him in the teeth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 537220




Quote:

"Doesn't that sound like a greedy person?"


Not at all, since He is the creator.

However, you, sound like a total and complete brainless imbecile.
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Odd how Christians resort to good old insults when people say things they don't want to hear, and also how often they do this.



Never mind, Buddha still loves you.

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- Heraclitus
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Odd how Christians resort to good old insults when people say things they don't want to hear, and also how often they do this.



Never mind, Buddha still loves you.

:aflowers:
 Quoting: CelticLegends


You're right. I once called myself Christian but later saw how they treat everyone else who doesn't share their beliefs. They love to look down on everyone as if they are really special. They will be shamed when God calls them corrupt.
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Seriously, for those who know he played a trick on everyone and disguised himself as the son of God.

He left the world still in sin with a promise to return when the timing was right, but he won't.

He even placed him self as heir to the throne of God and said no one can come to God unless you go through him first.

Doesn't that sound like a greedy person?

If my own brother made those kinds of demands, I would punch him in the teeth.


Yup, close enough. Techically speaking Jesus = Lucifer, as "Satan" is actually a conglomerate name for the mortal descendents of Lucifer.

Lucifer's used the "love" drag countless times over the ages, hence the reason for all the identical stories with different names.

Welcome to the battery vat Neo. hf



But, perhaps he did not become Satan until he became Jesus - Buddha and etc. - the opposer of Yahweh. You must know what he said about an eye for eye and tooth for tooth unlike Yahweh, and much more.
He was a philosopher, in my opinion. Maybe he/she was a spiritualist too, but I guess that part isn't all that important.


Not actually, the story the decendents of Lucifer wrote, was fabricated from things said by another man from around 300 b.c. who actually did teach Real Love. Therefore, in their usual Hegelian style, they "synthisized" one of the "poles" out of what that man had taught. Allegedly, that man was "murdered by an evil Pharisee". (shocking eh? rolleyes )

In any regard, all the name changing just serves to keep people confused. The list of characters in this play isn't nearly as long as all those names suggest. It's mostly boils down to a family feud between a mother/father primary couple and their first and second sons.

All the other gods and goddesses are attached to that primary fighting. Like Goddess Venus for example is the original wife of their first son. And Lillith looks to be the daughter of Venus after she ran off with her husband's younger brother, Lucifer.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


I agree with the most of what you say here. We'll have a good fight about the rest another time. Hahaha.

Take care, 777
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Seriously, for those who know he played a trick on everyone and disguised himself as the son of God.

He left the world still in sin with a promise to return when the timing was right, but he won't.

He even placed him self as heir to the throne of God and said no one can come to God unless you go through him first.

Doesn't that sound like a greedy person?

If my own brother made those kinds of demands, I would punch him in the teeth.


Yup, close enough. Techically speaking Jesus = Lucifer, as "Satan" is actually a conglomerate name for the mortal descendents of Lucifer.

Lucifer's used the "love" drag countless times over the ages, hence the reason for all the identical stories with different names.

Welcome to the battery vat Neo. hf



But, perhaps he did not become Satan until he became Jesus - Buddha and etc. - the opposer of Yahweh. You must know what he said about an eye for eye and tooth for tooth unlike Yahweh, and much more.
He was a philosopher, in my opinion. Maybe he/she was a spiritualist too, but I guess that part isn't all that important.


Not actually, the story the decendents of Lucifer wrote, was fabricated from things said by another man from around 300 b.c. who actually did teach Real Love. Therefore, in their usual Hegelian style, they "synthisized" one of the "poles" out of what that man had taught. Allegedly, that man was "murdered by an evil Pharisee". (shocking eh? rolleyes )

In any regard, all the name changing just serves to keep people confused. The list of characters in this play isn't nearly as long as all those names suggest. It's mostly boils down to a family feud between a mother/father primary couple and their first and second sons.

All the other gods and goddesses are attached to that primary fighting. Like Goddess Venus for example is the original wife of their first son. And Lillith looks to be the daughter of Venus after she ran off with her husband's younger brother, Lucifer.


I agree with the most of what you say here. We'll have a good fight about the rest another time. Hahaha.

Take care, 777
 Quoting: Libra II 416981


hugs

Well of course, why what else would we do with all that "time"? peace
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JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD!!! If you don't believe me; please believe His word -- one day we will all face Him as the Bible states in Phillipians 2 - 10 & 11 -

(10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; [11] And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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bump I was always interested in gnostic theories.

:) WATCH PLEASE





VERY chilling lines, if you believe in predictive programming, 'hidden in plain sight' and all that.
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Very chilling. Wow. Point blank eh.
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JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD!!! If you don't believe me; please believe His word -- one day we will all face Him as the Bible states in Phillipians 2 - 10 & 11 -

(10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; [11] And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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A son of GOD is an angel, fawk!!!!!! How difficult could it be to understand?????

Jesus is not the only begotten son of GOD, there's Michael, Gabriel, Satan, Azazel and if you read the Book Of GOD (BoE) you'll see there's hundreds more, like all the sons of GOD in the book of Genesis who took human women for wives, they too had names, the too were begotten by GOD

And just for the sake of argument, if this Jesus was the only begotten son, then he was still begotten (created/procreated) and therefore NOT GOD, not the Creator of all things, but simply a creation of the Creator. In other words don't worship the doctrines of angels (Jesus-Azazel), nor men (Mohamed), but the doctrine of the LORD
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Wow, how sad to have boiled down the entirety of the life of Jesus the way you have. You really don't get it, do you? To attempt to dissect such an absurd notion would require a level of intellect and philosophy that you clearly have no interest in engaging. These arguments have been made since the 1st century, by the Romans themselves. There is writ after writ, edict after edict, that answers all of your questions of this nature, in detail and depth. This is why the Catholic Church adheres to Sacred Scriptures, Holy Tradition, and the Holy Magisterium as the core of the faith. Trying to prove Jesus was Satan with a couple biblical passages, without even beginning to understand their context, in their original languages, without even bothering with a full fledged exegesis is downright foolish. I don't know why I wasted my time responding to this, but it just hit a raw nerve.


This is a prime example of an ignorant ass who supposes I am 13 years old, and an atheist and have pondered the entire Bible for 30 minutes. You do realize I have studied the Bible for some 31 years now, have thought about those meanings almost every single day since then and have overcome every aspect in my own life that it prescribes. This is not a whim but a calculated and sincere realization.

Perhaps you'd better go back and read the story of Jacob and Esau so you'll understand without condemning me for summarizing my feelings in a few short sentences, that what has been done is that the firstborn creation of God (Satan) came to Earth in the form of Jesus and sold his brother out (The Church/Us) in return for a simple meal (his deity and crucifixion). Read it and you'll understand what the whole trick is.

Jesus is none other than the black sheep.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 537220



I'm not an ignorant ass. I'm an actual Catholic Theologian who has a tendency to trawl conspiracy websites. Why? Who knows, it's an addiction of sorts.

As for what you wrote: You do realize that there are over 26,000+ versions or denominations of the Christian/Christ based Churches and all other deviations arising from it? Almost 90% of those 26,000+ started because someone was sitting with their version of the Bible, reading it over and over, until they stumbled upon an idea that they believe to be original or earthshaking or arrive at an "Aha!" moment. Your no different than Charles Taze Russell nad his Jehovah's Witness, Mary Baker Eddy and Christian Scientists,or William Miller and the Seventh Day Adventists, or even a subset of Adventists in the Branch Davidians with David Koresh, etc.. Do you honestly believe you have stumbled upon something so sinister, that it has never been considered? I applaud your effort though and don't mean to condescend, not at all. It's people like you that can, through your growth in the faith, that can become one of the most vehement defenders of the faith. Eventually, friend, you have to walk across a bridge you can not see. Do you really want to be wrong on this one?

I'm happy that you have taken some time over the years to read your Bible, but that does not an exegete make. This is why all Holy Scripture must be interpreted with respect to what the Church has helped translate for 2,000+ years through Holy Tradition and the Sacred Magisterium. Only then, can you begin an exegete of those passages, coupled with their review in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Your analysis is sloppy and unlearned. No offense, but it's true. As I said, dissecting your ridiculous notion would require 50 pages of incredibly difficult theological study that explains in detail. However, this would be a good start for you: [link to www.newadvent.org]
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Seriously, for those who know he played a trick on everyone and disguised himself as the son of God.

He left the world still in sin with a promise to return when the timing was right, but he won't.

He even placed him self as heir to the throne of God and said no one can come to God unless you go through him first.

Doesn't that sound like a greedy person?

If my own brother made those kinds of demands, I would punch him in the teeth.




Quote:

"Doesn't that sound like a greedy person?"


Not at all, since He is the creator.

However, you, sound like a total and complete brainless imbecile.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 571900

woah
No, Jesus is not the Creator or our creator he is just one of his sons...he was artificially implanted in Maria's womb.
Jesus is the way to salvation... because only the ones who trust him will accept the help of the Ets.
  Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking
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interested in Gnosticism?


Check out the old role playing game Kult. The Sweedish game Kult.

Know your enemy Christian.