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Why people believe Jesus is Satan. [*WARNING* - May not make sense]

 
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Why people believe Jesus is Satan. [*WARNING* - May not make sense]
My turn... this is what my brain is thinking right NOW. It changes constantly.

I think Satan and the devil are 2 separate things. I don't even think Satan is an entity. Well one with form anyways.

Satan is a spirit. A lie. The Grand Lie. And its father was what we are calling the devil. The devil breath life into it and it came alive. We can't put an image on the lord of evil spirits either. Just like we can't put one on the lord of spirits. But we have.

I also believe the guy, who we are calling Jesus, was not the devil.

If some one worships Satan they are living the lie. The grand lie. Its not a goat. That's an image. They are worshiping an idea. The one that the devil started. Or they follow that vibe.

If the devil wanted to take the glory away from god he would lead people away from god. Making them believe that this man is god. Or that thing is god.

It is very easy to think that this guy Jahshuwah is Satan. Heres where it started.

Tempted to be the ruler of all nations. Somewhere down the road someone used Jahshuwah as the image of the lord. Somewhere down the road someone crafted that book and killed for it. Forced it upon the world. Who ever is doing this is Satan.

But it was not Jahshuwah. It was the ones that killed him. Killed him for exposing them. They were afraid of what he was saying.

What he said is the Holy Spirit. The truth. Which comes from the lord of spirits. The father of all spirits. But not the Satan spirit. The devil created that one.

What did he say? Jahshuwah's engines were running on the holy spirit 24/7. He saw the truth in everything around him. He was in the zone man.

And after he died there were groups that went underground. They knew what he said because they were there. They were tortured and killed when found. Fed to the lions. The spirit of Christ was a threat. His Ideas were a threat.

So Satan worshipers hijacked that wave and watered it down. Introduced Satan to it. Introduced the grand lie. Took the glory away. Replaced the holy spirit with Satan. A lie. Made god a man. Made god into an image.

NATIONS!! I am not a nation am I?

I look at Jesus as someone like a lot of us here. We all know what might happen if we open our mouths too wide or raise or voices too much. He knew that the spirit of the lord, excuse me, the lord of spirits would be there for him. To love him and guide him. As should we.

You cant just call out Satan and expect to get away with it. So they have screwed with Christianity all these years. Look at it. Very pagan. In its entirety.

There is division in Christianity. That right there should say something.
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Before we can accept or reject anything as truth we have to take the time to do painstaking evaluation of our own and come to our own conclusions. If one is not willing to put in the time or chooses to take other people's word for it - then that's just the way it is. Nobody can force us…it's up to us.

No man can provide personal truth to another - and one must put in hours and hours of time and careful study in order to find their own answers. Personally, I trust no one - regardless of pro or anti stance on any issue - to answer those questions for me, but myself.
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There is only one truth man

And Christ said it well.

If my truth is not the same as your truth then we would both be wrong.

This is my truth.

God said [OT] "Be fruitful and multiply. [NT] And for Christs sake, just get along with each other."

In a nutshell.
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i think i kinda get what ur saying/

Baisically satan/the antichrist currupted and divided the word of god. IMO the word of god is the selective combination of all three major religions, combine the koran and both the testiements plus the lost books of the bible, like exodus and more. Do some study about how similar muslims are to christians, in some cases, muslims are more christian than chrisitans! THE only major difference is JESUS. This is were i think the grand lie has fallan upon the muslim people. They see him as a prophet, and not son of god, but they do believe he was born of the virgin marry. But i know that real muslims love all the prophets of god, and as long as they worship god wich they do, im sure muslims will go to heaven. To me the koran is the least curruped book out of them all. The bible however has been changed alot by the works of lucifer and his followers. ALot of people see jesus as god, he is not! how some people confuse that baffles me. Athiest baffle me too, for there ignorance is great. hiding
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This is my truth.
 Quoting: A Concerned Canadian


Exactly. And I say.....let each man choose his truth on his own.

Why bother insisting yours is the correct interpretation?

That's why I have no comment on your OP. I don't see it the way you do, but I'm not going to argue with you.

If that's your truth so be it. I like to do my own research and thinking.

It's all good. See ya man.
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There is only one,GOD and nothing else,he gives life and he takes it away,he is good he is bad,he GOD hasso much power he loves and hates he can show mercy or none rath of GOD.

START PRAYING THERE IS ONLY ONE
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I think the biggest problem is some still hold on to what they were born into. It terrifies me thinking this way. It goes against everything I was TAUGHT.

Also there is a good does of guilt that gets injected into you the moment you question what you are supposed to believe is the truth.

I think this is what it means to be born again. Everything you though was true reshaped and formed. You would truly act and be a new person.
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This is my truth.


Exactly. And I say.....let each man choose his truth on his own.

Why bother insisting yours is the correct interpretation?

That's why I have no comment on your OP. I don't see it the way you do, but I'm not going to argue with you.

If that's your truth so be it. I like to do my own research and thinking.

It's all good. See ya man.
 Quoting: Here I Am

but... but... but... there is only one truth. That would be 7 billion truths on earth if everyone found their own truth.

I am in no way saying this is true btw. But right now. This is what I am testing. To find its source.

People shouldn't have to fear when looking into this. I can see why some believe it is true. There is even a part of you that is researching this. I see you in these threads. Not that you have to believe it. But you are searching. We all are.

And no one has the truth. Well maybe Jahshuwah does.

Anyways I understand.

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There is only one,GOD and nothing else,he gives life and he takes it away,he is good he is bad,he GOD hasso much power he loves and hates he can show mercy or none rath of GOD.

START PRAYING THERE IS ONLY ONE
 Quoting: START PRAYING 574426

Of course there is one. Everyone knows there is one.

And guess what? That one is the same as your one and his one and her one and my one and....
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i think i kinda get what ur saying/


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Yup. I think you do. I am horrible with words.
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My turn... this is what my brain is thinking right NOW. It changes constantly.

I think Satan and the devil are 2 separate things. I don't even think Satan is an entity. Well one with form anyways.

Satan is a spirit. A lie. The Grand Lie. And its father was what we are calling the devil. The devil breath life into it and it came alive. We can't put an image on the lord of evil spirits either. Just like we can't put one on the lord of spirits. But we have.

I also believe the guy, who we are calling Jesus, was not the devil.

If some one worships Satan they are living the lie. The grand lie. Its not a goat. That's an image. They are worshiping an idea. The one that the devil started. Or they follow that vibe.

If the devil wanted to take the glory away from god he would lead people away from god. Making them believe that this man is god. Or that thing is god.

It is very easy to think that this guy Jahshuwah is Satan. Heres where it started.

Tempted to be the ruler of all nations. Somewhere down the road someone used Jahshuwah as the image of the lord. Somewhere down the road someone crafted that book and killed for it. Forced it upon the world. Who ever is doing this is Satan.

But it was not Jahshuwah. It was the ones that killed him. Killed him for exposing them. They were afraid of what he was saying.

What he said is the Holy Spirit. The truth. Which comes from the lord of spirits. The father of all spirits. But not the Satan spirit. The devil created that one.

What did he say? Jahshuwah's engines were running on the holy spirit 24/7. He saw the truth in everything around him. He was in the zone man.

And after he died there were groups that went underground. They knew what he said because they were there. They were tortured and killed when found. Fed to the lions. The spirit of Christ was a threat. His Ideas were a threat.

So Satan worshipers hijacked that wave and watered it down. Introduced Satan to it. Introduced the grand lie. Took the glory away. Replaced the holy spirit with Satan. A lie. Made god a man. Made god into an image.

NATIONS!! I am not a nation am I?

I look at Jesus as someone like a lot of us here. We all know what might happen if we open our mouths too wide or raise or voices too much. He knew that the spirit of the lord, excuse me, the lord of spirits would be there for him. To love him and guide him. As should we.

You cant just call out Satan and expect to get away with it. So they have screwed with Christianity all these years. Look at it. Very pagan. In its entirety.

There is division in Christianity. That right there should say something.
 Quoting: A Concerned Canadian



I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS SATAN I BELIEVE THAT JESUS

MADE THE SATAN CREATURE

AS A WAY OF PUNISHING EVERYONE THAT TURNS AWAY FROM HIM OR

TO PUNISH ANYONE THAT DOES NOT


BELIEVE IN HIM WELL AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TAUGHT IN MY

LAST CHURCH THE PASTOR SAID IF YOU DON'T COME GOD SATAN IS LIKE

GODS GUARD DOG OR PET AND GOD WILL GIVE SATAN A LITTLE ROPE OFF HIS LEASH TO MESS WITH YOU

TO GET YOU TO COME BACK TO HIM AND BE CHRISTIAN AND OBEY HIS RULES N STUFF THEN WHEN YOU'VE

HAD ENOUGH OF SATAN BUT STILL HASN'T CHANGED AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF

TIME THEN GOD WILL TAKE SATANS LEASH ALL THE WAY OFF HIS NECK AND LET HIM

CONSUME YOU MY PASTOR MIGHT NOT HAVE EXPLAINED IT EXACTLY

LIKE THIS TO ME BUT THIS IS WHAT I COMPREHENDED FROM HIS

TEACHINGS SO I SEE SATAN AS GODS DOG OR GODS EVIL PET NOW


HE SAID SATAN CANT DO ANYTHING TO YOU UNLESS GOD GIVES HIM PERMISSIONS TO LET HIM TO IT

THEN HE GAVE US AN EXAMPLE SATAN: GOD CAN I GIVE THAT WOMEN A HEART ATTACK?

GOD: LETS SEE OH SHES NOT OBEY MY RULES YES SATAN YOU MAY THEN THE LADY IS ATTACKED

ANOTHER EXAMPLE HE GAVE US WAS:

SATAN: GOD CAN I GO MAKE THAT MAN HAVE A CAR ACCIDENT?

GOD: NO SATAN HE IS READING MY WORD AND OBEY MY RULES YOU MAY NOT TOUCH HIM

THEN SATAN POWERS FAIL HIM WHEN HE TRIES TO DISOBEY GOD BECAUSE HE HAS TO OBEY HIS MASTER AND RULER SATAN IS JUST GODS DOG

SO IF GOD IS ALLOWING SATAN TO HURT SOMEONE THEN THAT MEANS THAT PERSON IS NOT FOLLOWING GODS RULES


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It says right here you've got to be saved to go to heaven.

But the way I see it, you've only got to be yourself to go to

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My turn... this is what my brain is thinking right NOW. It changes constantly.

I think Satan and the devil are 2 separate things. I don't even think Satan is an entity. Well one with form anyways.

Satan is a spirit. A lie. The Grand Lie. And its father was what we are calling the devil. The devil breath life into it and it came alive. We can't put an image on the lord of evil spirits either. Just like we can't put one on the lord of spirits. But we have.

I also believe the guy, who we are calling Jesus, was not the devil.

If some one worships Satan they are living the lie. The grand lie. Its not a goat. That's an image. They are worshiping an idea. The one that the devil started. Or they follow that vibe.

If the devil wanted to take the glory away from god he would lead people away from god. Making them believe that this man is god. Or that thing is god.

It is very easy to think that this guy Jahshuwah is Satan. Heres where it started.

Tempted to be the ruler of all nations. Somewhere down the road someone used Jahshuwah as the image of the lord. Somewhere down the road someone crafted that book and killed for it. Forced it upon the world. Who ever is doing this is Satan.

But it was not Jahshuwah. It was the ones that killed him. Killed him for exposing them. They were afraid of what he was saying.

What he said is the Holy Spirit. The truth. Which comes from the lord of spirits. The father of all spirits. But not the Satan spirit. The devil created that one.

What did he say? Jahshuwah's engines were running on the holy spirit 24/7. He saw the truth in everything around him. He was in the zone man.

And after he died there were groups that went underground. They knew what he said because they were there. They were tortured and killed when found. Fed to the lions. The spirit of Christ was a threat. His Ideas were a threat.

So Satan worshipers hijacked that wave and watered it down. Introduced Satan to it. Introduced the grand lie. Took the glory away. Replaced the holy spirit with Satan. A lie. Made god a man. Made god into an image.

NATIONS!! I am not a nation am I?

I look at Jesus as someone like a lot of us here. We all know what might happen if we open our mouths too wide or raise or voices too much. He knew that the spirit of the lord, excuse me, the lord of spirits would be there for him. To love him and guide him. As should we.

You cant just call out Satan and expect to get away with it. So they have screwed with Christianity all these years. Look at it. Very pagan. In its entirety.

There is division in Christianity. That right there should say something.
 Quoting: A Concerned Canadian



SATAN IS JUST GODS PET PLAIN AND SIMPLE

I lolsign AT PEOPLE THAT WORSHIP THE PET AND NOT THE

MASTER SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO JUST WORSHIP BOTH.


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It says right here you've got to be saved to go to heaven.

But the way I see it, you've only got to be yourself to go to

hell.
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Satan was real.. they named Saturn after him.
In Greek mythology his name was Zeus.
He had many names.

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