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Obama's Rev. Warren Inaugural Pick Sparks Gay Fury
The president-elect's selection of Rev. Rick Warren draws fierce responses from gay and liberal groups.

Aretha Franklin will sing, the Rev. Rick Warren will pray and more than 11,000 U.S. troops will be watching over inauguration ceremonies in case of an attack during President-elect Barack Obama's swearing-in on Jan. 20.

But not everyone is pleased with the president-elect's selection of Rev. Warren.

Joe Solomnese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, sent a blistering letter to the president-elect, accusing him of delivering a "genuine blow" to the gay community in choosing the reverend to give the formal invocation at next month's inauguration.

"[W]e feel a deep level of disrespect when one of architects and promoters of an anti-gay agenda is given the prominence and the pulpit of your historic nomination," he wrote.

Andrew Sullivan wrote on the Atlantic Web site, "[It's] shrewd politics, but if anyone is under any illusion that Obama is interested in advancing gay equality, they should probably sober up now."

Liberal groups criticized the inclusion of Warren, whose "Purpose Driven Life" books and lectures have made his church among the largest in the country. People For the American Way President Kathryn Kolbert said Warren's support for California Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage, should have blocked his invitation.

"It's a huge mistake," said California gay rights activist Rick Jacobs, who chairs the state's Courage Campaign. "He's really the wrong person to lead the president into office."

Washington Blade editor, Kevin Naff, called the selection "Obama's first big mistake."

A popular figure among evangelicals, Warren remained publicly neutral during the presidential campaign. He invited both Obama and his Republican rival John McCain to his Saddleback Church in Orange County for a forum on faith and public service.

As many as 4 million visitors are expected to be on hand when Obama takes the noontime oath from Chief Justice John Roberts on the steps of the Capitol.

Some 4,000 local police, 4,000 police from around the country and security agents from other government agencies will be on hand, taking direction from the Secret Service. About 7,500 active duty military and 4,000 National Guard troops also will participate. That includes a contingent on alert to respond to a chemical attack.

A "big chunk" of active and guard units will perform ceremonial work involving parades, reviews and honor guards, the U.S. commander in charge of domestic defense said Wednesday.

Planners are working under the assumption a terrorist or rogue element might try to interrupt the event, said Gen. Gene Renuart, head of the U.S. Northern Command. "So it's prudent for us to plan for the possibility of that kind of event, and to be prepared either to deter it or to respond to it," he said in a session with defense writers.

Also Wednesday, officials announced the list of participants for the inauguration.

The program is to feature poet Elizabeth Alexander; the Rev. Joseph Lowery, a veteran civil rights leader; the U.S. Marine and Navy bands; and the San Francisco Boys Chorus and the San Francisco Girls Chorus.

"So it's prudent for us to plan for the possibility of that kind of event, and to be prepared either to deter it or to respond to it," he said.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., chairman of the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies, said the day would be "an event of historic proportion."

"It is appropriate that the program will include some of the world's most gifted artists from a wide range of backgrounds and genres," she said.

Cellist Yo-Yo Ma, violinist Itzhak Perlman, pianist Gabriela Montero and clarinetist Anthony McGill will perform a new work composed by John Williams, who also provided music for Obama's election night rally in Chicago's Grant Park. The committee did not release a title for the work by Williams, who is best known for his film scores such as "Star Wars" and "Jaws."

Vice President-elect Joe Biden will take his oath from Justice John Paul Stevens.

Others on the schedule were a nod to Obama's election as the country's first black president.

Lowery, who co-founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with Martin Luther King, Jr., was scheduled to offer the event's benediction.

Franklin, a living legend with 21 Grammies, performed for President Bill Clinton in 1993, but this would be her first Inauguration. During a Labor Day weekend rally in Detroit, Obama sang a bit of Franklin's "Chain of Fools" to her.

Alexander, a 2005 Pulitzer Prize finalist and Yale University professor, centers her poems and essays on race relations and social movements.

She is only the fourth poet to have a speaking role at a presidential Inauguration. Robert Frost, who was 86 at the time, wrote a poem for Kennedy's inaugural in 1961 but couldn't make out the words of the poem in the sun's glare. Instead, he recited an earlier work. Clinton chose Maya Angelou to write a poem for his first inaugural in 1993, and Miller Williams read "Of History and Hope" at his second inaugural.
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Maybe they'll be happy when they have equal rights. In many ways your question is kind of similar to saying in 1950 when will blacks ever be happy.
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At this stage in the game Obama's selection is NOT an attack or suppression of gays and liberals, it's a personal preference on HIS part and should be respected as such.

My question is directed to an issue of balance. If a movement is made that directly impacts a specific group then yes....have your voice heard and uprise....

but this is not it.

It's about picking and choosing your battles....when a specific group challenges EVERYTHING rather it's justified or not, it only harms the image and efforts of that group.
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Maybe they'll be happy when they have equal rights. In many ways your question is kind of similar to saying in 1950 when will blacks ever be happy.
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Well, I'm saying in 2008, will blacks ever be happy?
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They will only be happy when they are elevated far above 'average' people.... BOTH groups.

It has NEVER been about equality with gays or blacks.. it has been about supremacy.
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they'll only be happy when secular marxism debauches all our morals.
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They will only be happy when they are elevated far above 'average' people.... BOTH groups.

It has NEVER been about equality with gays or blacks.. it has been about supremacy.
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excellent
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I know I'm happy.

Happy to live in a country where blacks & whites, gays & straights can spout any lameass bullshit they feel like, and not have anyone in a position to stop them.

hf hf hf
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why in the hell would the "secular" office of the president require the "blessing" of a minister in the first place?
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They will only be happy when they are elevated far above 'average' people.... BOTH groups.

It has NEVER been about equality with gays or blacks.. it has been about supremacy.
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i've never heard that before.. what brought you to that conclusion.
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No.

Not until we're The United Faggoty Lib Please Come Take Us Over States.


I miss day without a gay.

I wish they'd do life without a gay.
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why in the hell would the "secular" office of the president require the "blessing" of a minister in the first place?
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oh, and aren't 'inaugurations' supposed to be reserved for royal dynasties?
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They will only be happy when they are elevated far above 'average' people.... BOTH groups.

It has NEVER been about equality with gays or blacks.. it has been about supremacy.

excellent
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See what you're saying.. the feeling is not uncommon.

However, what kind of "supremacy" are you speaking of? What specifically is being sought by either group that would 'elevate' them above all the rest?
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"i've never heard that before.. what brought you to that conclusion."

>>OF COURSE you haven't!

You are a liberal.
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"However, what kind of "supremacy" are you speaking of? What specifically is being sought by either group that would 'elevate' them above all the rest?"

>>They want rights that apply specifically to them and them alone and in the case of blacks... they already have some. Anyone with an iota of common sense can see it for themselves.
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"However, what kind of "supremacy" are you speaking of? What specifically is being sought by either group that would 'elevate' them above all the rest?"

>>They want rights that apply specifically to them and them alone and in the case of blacks... they already have some. Anyone with an iota of common sense can see it for themselves.
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such as
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"such as"

>>Is there a constitutional amendment preventing the blockage of the non-existent right to vote for caucasians?
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"such as"

>>Is there a constitutional amendment preventing the blockage of the non-existent right to vote for caucasians?
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you can spin that however you want, but the fact that all Americans (excluding fellons in some states) have the right to vote is more about equality than supremacy. are their black or gay groups trying to block the rights of others.
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Not unless the rest of us are all dead or locked up
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What I find interesting is in Georgia they were discussing the idea of combining the black colleges with majority white colleges, and the blacks were outraged.

It's hard to draw a specifically clear line between what's racist and not, what's considered segragation and what's not.

The bottom line is, the groups mentioned in this news item are investing angry energy into something that is completely irrelevent to their cause.
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"you can spin that however you want, but the fact that all Americans (excluding fellons in some states) have the right to vote is more about equality than supremacy. are their black or gay groups trying to block the rights of others."

>>There is NO right to vote... spin that. Yet, blacks have the right to not be turned away from a non-existent right...

and I am not even touching affirmative action... yet.
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"are their black or gay groups trying to block the rights of others."

>>Who are you implying is trying to block any rights from blacks or gays? What rights, specifically?

If your answer includes the word 'marriage', kindly point out the word 'marriage' in the Constitution, bill of rights, or relevant case law.
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never!
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"are their black or gay groups trying to block the rights of others."

>>Who are you implying is trying to block any rights from blacks or gays? What rights, specifically?

If your answer includes the word 'marriage', kindly point out the word 'marriage' in the Constitution, bill of rights, or relevant case law.
 Quoting: Sinanju 550937


Ah, so one problem is identifying what is truly a "political" question, and what is more accurately described as a matter of "culture"?
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"you can spin that however you want, but the fact that all Americans (excluding fellons in some states) have the right to vote is more about equality than supremacy. are their black or gay groups trying to block the rights of others."

>>There is NO right to vote... spin that. Yet, blacks have the right to not be turned away from a non-existent right...

and I am not even touching affirmative action... yet.
 Quoting: Sinanju 550937

you might as well get to affirmative action.. because the fact remains all Americans can and do vote. now if there were black groups arguing white people shouldn't be allowed to vote based on the constitution you may have a valid argument.
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"Ah, so one problem is identifying what is truly a "political" question, and what is more accurately described as a matter of "culture"?"

>>That is one way of putting it.
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"you might as well get to affirmative action.. because the fact remains all Americans can and do vote. now if there were black groups arguing white people shouldn't be allowed to vote based on the constitution you may have a valid argument."

>>You are VERY incorrect. Your 'right' to vote CAN be taken away for numerous reasons... because there is NO RIGHT TO VOTE.

Hey! I know!

Let's ask Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.

Go ahead... google Jesse Jackson jr. and the 'right to vote'


Face it, Reece... you only know what liberal blogs tell you.
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"are their black or gay groups trying to block the rights of others."

>>Who are you implying is trying to block any rights from blacks or gays? What rights, specifically?

If your answer includes the word 'marriage', kindly point out the word 'marriage' in the Constitution, bill of rights, or relevant case law.
 Quoting: Sinanju 550937

before this conversation gets all twisted up in useless rhetoric.. i am only addressing the point you say blacks and gays don't just want to be the same as everyone else, but want to be supreme or have more than other americans.

and yes there are groups and laws that don't allow gays to be legally "married" like every other american. so somehow if a gay couple can legally say they are married, that is somehow more than a hetro couple who can legally claim to be married.
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No.
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I understand it's about equality and rights.....

but again, where do we draw the line?

You cannot have equality if one group or another prefers to be unique or stand out among the rest.

If you want TRUE equality, then self expression must be sacrificed.
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