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Bisbee AZ...

 
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Hey Doomers!!!

I'm on the road again. I am in Bisbee,...very cool town hard to describe. Old mine town crawling up the side of a canyon. Many nooks and crannies on the side streets,…talk of ghost hauntings and such. Found the old Masonic order building right on main street. Est. 1896,...in every damn town you find them. Secret club stuff lasting that long is gotta be suspect,...don't ya think??

Anyway, heading to Tombstone in a bit.

Does anyone know of any sites of interest between Bisbee and Tucson???


TIA
Z
In time we hate that which we often fear.

--- William Shakespeare
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man, i wish i could dick off and just drive around all day instead of being stuck in this fucking office selling insurance. congrats op, you're doing something right.
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man, i wish i could dick off and just drive around all day instead of being stuck in this fucking office selling insurance. congrats op, you're doing something right.
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i feel you on that
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Any chance of seeing Treehugger this trip?

I would like to know how she is doing.

Peace,
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There are world famous caves near I-10 between those towns.
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man, i wish i could dick off and just drive around all day instead of being stuck in this fucking office selling insurance. congrats op, you're doing something right.
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It ain't been easy,...but at times like these,...
I can almost sprout wings Hahaha,...

Actually,...you can do it.


Z
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Any chance of seeing Treehugger this trip?

I would like to know how she is doing.

Peace,
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Hey UB!!! Well,...don't know. I have not talked to her in a while. I am actually heading toward Saguaro on a type of vision quest.

I have thought of her though,...perhaps you should call her.



Z
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hey Zack,

I put in a long distance call via telepathy------no answer.


have a great trip!!


ub
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Say hi to mescalito for me!
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hey Zack,

I put in a long distance call via telepathy------no answer.


have a great trip!!


ub
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Thanks Bro!!!

Guess no ones been out this way,...

I'm on my own!!5a

Now back to your regularly scheduled Doomfeast.
~~~note to self~~~
Buy more Tequila.


Z
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Re: Bisbee AZ...
Hey Doomers!!!

I'm on the road again. I am in Bisbee,...very cool town hard to describe. Old mine town crawling up the side of a canyon. Many nooks and crannies on the side streets,…talk of ghost hauntings and such. Found the old Masonic order building right on main street. Est. 1896,...in every damn town you find them. Secret club stuff lasting that long is gotta be suspect,...don't ya think??

Anyway, heading to Tombstone in a bit.

Does anyone know of any sites of interest between Bisbee and Tucson???


TIA
Z
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Yes, cave or cavern SE of Tucson, near Vail, AZ.

It may be called Crystal cave. can't remember.
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Hey Doomers!!!

I'm on the road again. I am in Bisbee,...very cool town hard to describe. Old mine town crawling up the side of a canyon. Many nooks and crannies on the side streets,…talk of ghost hauntings and such. Found the old Masonic order building right on main street. Est. 1896,...in every damn town you find them. Secret club stuff lasting that long is gotta be suspect,...don't ya think??

Anyway, heading to Tombstone in a bit.

Does anyone know of any sites of interest between Bisbee and Tucson???




Yes, cave or cavern SE of Tucson, near Vail, AZ.

It may be called Crystal cave. can't remember.
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LOL!!! I knew it!!!

Will check it out,...thanks kindred!!!



Z
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Yes, cave or cavern SE of Tucson, near Vail, AZ.

It may be called Crystal cave. can't remember.
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I believe you're referring to Kartchner Caverns. Definitely worth checking out. The Biosphere is still functioning and giving tours too.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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Yes, cave or cavern SE of Tucson, near Vail, AZ.

It may be called Crystal cave. can't remember.


I believe you're referring to Karchner Caverns. Definitely worth checking out. The Biosphere is still functioning and giving tours too.
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I gotta be kidding me?? I was contemplating stopping there,..Karchner. This is why I love this place. Knowledge is power.

It's like an oracle I can log into for insight.

I do obey octopi.

Thanks
Z
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I gotta be kidding me?? I was contemplating stopping there,..Karchner. This is why I love this place. Knowledge is power.

It's like an oracle I can log into for insight.

I do obey octopi.

Thanks
Z
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No prob Zack. How did you like Bisbee?
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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Hey Doomers!!!

I'm on the road again. I am in Bisbee...

Anyway, heading to Tombstone in a bit.

Does anyone know of any sites of interest between Bisbee and Tucson???


TIA
Z
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Dig on Bisbee big time. And Tombstone is fucking dope. Hope you took the time to check out some of the cliff ruins in western NM en route...

Anyway, not sure how you define "interesting," but Google Ft. Huachuca.

And if you ever plan on connecting to I8 in Tuscon and heading West, hit me up sometime - ac156099@gmail.com - I'll buy you a pint of tasty local microbrew, weather permitting... always willing to show some local hospitality to a GLPer with tenure.


cheers
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I gotta be kidding me?? I was contemplating stopping there,..Karchner. This is why I love this place. Knowledge is power.

It's like an oracle I can log into for insight.

I do obey octopi.

Thanks
Z


No prob Zack. How did you like Bisbee?
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I love Bisbee. I'm in the library now,...running out of time. I will return though :)
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I was in Bisbee last year around Thanksgiving.

What a fun little town.

I loved the little coffee shop in the middle of town. The galleries were pretty nice too.

Now, as to Tucson, I loved it there. I'd move there in a heartbeat!
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Dig on Bisbee big time. And Tombstone is fucking dope. Hope you took the time to check out some of the cliff ruins in western NM en route...

Anyway, not sure how you define "interesting," but Google Ft. Huachuca.

And if you ever plan on connecting to I8 in Tuscon and heading West, hit me up sometime - ac156099@gmail.com - I'll buy you a pint of tasty local microbrew, weather permitting... always willing to show some local hospitality to a GLPer with tenure.


cheers
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Noted on the email.

I am living 4 miles approx. from Mogollon dwelling in the Gila. I love tasty microbrews too.

Hot Damn!!! Life is good!!

Gotta go now though,...

Great Day GLP!!!!

Z
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I was in Bisbee last year around Thanksgiving.

What a fun little town.

I loved the little coffee shop in the middle of town. The galleries were pretty nice too.

Now, as to Tucson, I loved it there. I'd move there in a heartbeat!
 Quoting: Art Deco 473495


I describe the Bisbee community vibe to people as Sedona without the pretentious pseudo-hippies. It's still a secret, even to most Arizonans, and I hope it stays that way.
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
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I was in Bisbee last year around Thanksgiving.

What a fun little town.

I loved the little coffee shop in the middle of town. The galleries were pretty nice too.

Now, as to Tucson, I loved it there. I'd move there in a heartbeat!


I describe the Bisbee community vibe to people as Sedona without the pretentious pseudo-hippies. It's still a secret, even to most Arizonans, and I hope it stays that way.
 Quoting: ObeyTheOctopus


I lived there for two years about 25 years ago. I"ve heard its gone yuppie. What happened was somehow movie people found it and started making a movie or two there and the place turned into yuppiedom. Was a delapatated old mining village when i lived there. The only way to make a buck was work for the government or get drugs from across the border. Which quite a few people did at the time i was there.

And tombstone is a dump. Unless the yuppies cleaned it up as well.
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yeah.... check out boot hill
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I lived there for two years about 25 years ago. I"ve heard its gone yuppie. What happened was somehow movie people found it and started making a movie or two there and the place turned into yuppiedom. Was a delapatated old mining village when i lived there. The only way to make a buck was work for the government or get drugs from across the border. Which quite a few people did at the time i was there.

And tombstone is a dump. Unless the yuppies cleaned it up as well.
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Yes there are yuppies there now, but you will find them anywhere. There are also a lot of pure artists and thinkers, some even famous, who live and work in anonymity in Bisbee. Jerome is another town along those lines. I love to visit both places whenever I get the chance.
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I was born in Bisbee in 1963. I was just there. My dad designed the WWII memorial in front of the open pit copper mine.
Did you know the first American declared KIA in WWII was from Bisbee? He was on the Arizona in Pearl Harbor.
Definitely check out Kartchner Caverns. It is very cool.
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Kartchner Caverns State Park

Kartchner Caverns is a stunning, limestone "living" wet cave in southeastern Arizona boasting many world-class features that have been protected since the cave was discovered in 1974. Inside the cave you will walk along a 1.2 mile "barrier free" trail viewing multi-hued stalactites and stalagmites. Dainty white helectites, translucent orange "bacon" and shields of white calcite adorn the walls along the trail. Many of the minerals found in the cave are not found in any other cave in the world. Among the cave's most interesting features is a "soda straw" stalactite measuring one-quarter of an inch wide and 21 feet long, making it the second-longest stalactite in the world. Visitors to the cave will also have the opportunity to explore the Discovery Center featuring world-class exhibits, regional displays and educational information about the caverns and the surrounding landscape, making this one of Tucson's most popular tours.

The tour begins on an electric tram that runs from the Discovery Center to the entrance of the cave, not far from the sinkhole where Randy Tufts and Gary Tenen first entered the cave in 1974. Tufts and Tenen, then students at the University of Arizona, first wriggled into the pristine cavern in 1974. They mapped miles of passageways and two massive rooms, each the size of an opera house and filled with the kinds of natural treasures, called "speleothems," that set cave lovers' hearts aflutter. Tufts and Tenen understood the fragility of the cave; its balance could easily be disturbed. If the desert air were allowed in, the cave would dry up. They knew that human intrusion would likely sound the cave's death knell and that it was only a matter of time before other spelunkers would come upon it. "Finding that cave was like having a child," Tufts says. "We felt responsible for it. We made a sort of promise to the cave, that it could trust human beings."

Now visitors enter through a 420-foot-long, man-made tunnel sealed by a series of airtight doors designed to preserve the cave's interior climate: temperatures in the high 60s and relative humidity from 97.5 percent to 100 percent.

Beyond the final airlock is the Rotunda Room, a 200-foot-long, 120-foot-wide cavern with an arched ceiling about 45 feet high. The lighting is dim, but to the right, a beautiful butterscotch-colored drapery flows off the side wall, ending in a frozen puddle of calcite on the cave floor.

The opening of Kartchner Caverns State Park, boasts some of the largest and most beautiful caverns in the country. Although it may seem heretical to leave the warm Arizona sunshine for a cold, damp hole in the ground, a journey toward the center of the earth in Kartchner Cavern will reward you with a glimpse of an underground wonderland. Just remember you'll need to make a tour reservation well in advance. More than 200,000 visitors pass through each year. Kartchner Caverns State Park is 40 miles east of Tucson off I-10.

Driving directions to the caverns are travel 9 miles south of Interstate-10 in Benson, Arizona. Take Exit 302 (State Highway 90), the Sierra Vista/Fort Huachuca exit.

For more information: 520-586-2283 or www.pr.state.az.us/parkhtml/kartchner.html
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Hey Doomers!!!

I'm on the road again. I am in Bisbee,...very cool town hard to describe. Old mine town crawling up the side of a canyon. Many nooks and crannies on the side streets,…talk of ghost hauntings and such. Found the old Masonic order building right on main street. Est. 1896,...in every damn town you find them. Secret club stuff lasting that long is gotta be suspect,...don't ya think??

Anyway, heading to Tombstone in a bit.

Does anyone know of any sites of interest between Bisbee and Tucson???
TIA
Z
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I've been to Bisbee. I loved it. Quirky little place. Feels like it's at the end of nowhere.

In Tombstone you can see Boot Hill and the graves with the things written on them and also they still have a mock shootout on Main St at the OK Corral. And the saloon is still there and the workers dress up

If I remember near Bisbee is the spot where Cochise surrendered and there is a monument there and nearby a museum. It was evocative and interesting. We loved it. Cochise (Apache) surrendered in 1871 and his story is tremendously interesting. From Bisbee take Rt 80 then 90 to Sierra Vista. It is right on the way to Tombstone. I found this on the web about it:

In Sierra Vista go to the Fort Huachuca Historical Museum. Exhibits tell about the Indian Wars, including the surrender of Geronimo and the capture of Cochise, and the "Buffalo Soldiers," African-American units that fought against the Indians and joined General John J. "Black Jack" Pershing in the 1916 Mexican expedition against Pancho Villa.

Another thing to do is Hiking in Chiricahua National Monument. The Echo Canyon Loop will take you through spectacular spires and other rock formations to the wooded Echo Park. The hike is 3.3 miles long and is rated moderate (flat stretches in the bottom of the canyon) to difficult (steep stretches up and down from the rim parking lot). If you have the energy, pick some apples in one of the Willcox orchards before heading home.
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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I was in Bisbee last year around Thanksgiving.

What a fun little town.

I loved the little coffee shop in the middle of town. The galleries were pretty nice too.

Now, as to Tucson, I loved it there. I'd move there in a heartbeat!


I describe the Bisbee community vibe to people as Sedona without the pretentious pseudo-hippies. It's still a secret, even to most Arizonans, and I hope it stays that way.


I lived there for two years about 25 years ago. I"ve heard its gone yuppie. What happened was somehow movie people found it and started making a movie or two there and the place turned into yuppiedom. Was a delapatated old mining village when i lived there. The only way to make a buck was work for the government or get drugs from across the border. Which quite a few people did at the time i was there.

And tombstone is a dump. Unless the yuppies cleaned it up as well.
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You know, you're right. Bisbee does have a Sedona vibe to it, without the pretentious assholes. It is truly a gem.

And I couldn't agree more about Tombstone. Calling it a dump is being kind.
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So glad to hear of GLP'ers travelling through Bisbee - and the guy born in Bisbee whose father designed the WWII Memorial - I love it.

Bisbee definitely catches the eye and the heart, no Miracle Mile Strip Malls, we don't even have a McDonald's - that's kind of a claim to fame. Much novel architecture - yes, the convention center is Deco! A lot of good people, too, but surprisingly, as far GLP/aware-types, I've met more in the next town, where the fort is. (They even had Ron Paul people there, holding up signs.) The vast majority of people here are, of course, like everywhere else, full into the false paradigm of R's and Dems and pretty thoroughly brainwashed - first veil level? Whatever that seven veil thing is! Maybe that's changing, here and everywhere. Maybe.

I'm glad you liked it, Zack. Feel free to come back and live here. Truly, it is a wonderful town. Sorry, Bisbee, for asking for invaders, but he's GLP, and we can use more of them. ;) Check this out for a fun place to stay:

[link to www.theshadydell.com]
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Hey Doomers!!!

I'm on the road again. I am in Bisbee,...very cool town hard to describe. Old mine town crawling up the side of a canyon. Many nooks and crannies on the side streets,…talk of ghost hauntings and such. Found the old Masonic order building right on main street. Est. 1896,...in every damn town you find them. Secret club stuff lasting that long is gotta be suspect,...don't ya think??

Anyway, heading to Tombstone in a bit.

Does anyone know of any sites of interest between Bisbee and Tucson???


TIA
Z
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Mt Lemon in Tucson and Sabino Canyon in Tucson. Both lovely places.
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Hey Doomers!!!

I'm on the road again. I am in Bisbee,...very cool town hard to describe. Old mine town crawling up the side of a canyon. Many nooks and crannies on the side streets,…talk of ghost hauntings and such. Found the old Masonic order building right on main street. Est. 1896,...in every damn town you find them. Secret club stuff lasting that long is gotta be suspect,...don't ya think??

Anyway, heading to Tombstone in a bit.

Does anyone know of any sites of interest between Bisbee and Tucson???


TIA
Z
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Well how about some pics Mr Zack!
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You doin Route 66?

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