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Anonymous Coward User ID: 585084 United States 01/03/2009 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to throw more fuel on the fire... Quoting: cobra2411I have a friend that is very well connected to the elite bankers and he was in Brazil with them a few weeks ago at some large meeting and he said they are in a panic. Of note to this thread is that while they are panicked about Madoff and the fact that he wasn't alone and they don't know who to trust anymore, they believe there is something much larger coming. I'm sure my friend has opinions, but the "report" he sent me after Brazil was very brief and he then went off to Europe till the 8th for vacation... So I'll have to wait to find out more. I wasn't told a time or specifically what it was, just that the impact to the elite bankers will be much larger then Madoff. Or more specifically they fear the impact more. He also said that they have accepted that the current banking / economic system is broken and can not be repaired and their M.O. now will be to loot as much as they can. That effort will be limited by the fact that they don't trust each other, so it's every man for himself. Again, I can't say this is related or even what it is, just that there is something very big and it's about to surface... And the pigmen are scared to death about it... Thanks! what is your opinion of what the bankers are afraid of? surely you have one from your conversation. Please keep us posted. The more info we can get, the more pieces of the puzzle we can work with. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 580154 India 01/03/2009 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to throw more fuel on the fire... Quoting: cobra2411I have a friend that is very well connected to the elite bankers and he was in Brazil with them a few weeks ago at some large meeting and he said they are in a panic. Of note to this thread is that while they are panicked about Madoff and the fact that he wasn't alone and they don't know who to trust anymore, they believe there is something much larger coming. I'm sure my friend has opinions, but the "report" he sent me after Brazil was very brief and he then went off to Europe till the 8th for vacation... So I'll have to wait to find out more. I wasn't told a time or specifically what it was, just that the impact to the elite bankers will be much larger then Madoff. Or more specifically they fear the impact more. He also said that they have accepted that the current banking / economic system is broken and can not be repaired and their M.O. now will be to loot as much as they can. That effort will be limited by the fact that they don't trust each other, so it's every man for himself. Again, I can't say this is related or even what it is, just that there is something very big and it's about to surface... And the pigmen are scared to death about it... I think this is probably true. What is going on now is like a person maxing out his credit cards because he knows he is soon going to declare bankruptcy. There is no other explanation for the looting, other than the entire system is going down forever and these vermin are trying to get everything they can before it does. The government cretins are helping them because they are undoubtedly getting a big piece of the action. I think this person is right - there is something coming that will dwarf what has happened so far. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 585084 United States 01/03/2009 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps this is the group that is so afraid: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] MJ User ID: 437449 5/23/2008 10:47 AM Report abusive post Best Kept Secret Of The World!!!The Committee Of The 300 Quote The author, a former intelligence agent of British MI6, rips the lid off the conspiratorial group which knows NO national boundaries, is ABOVE the law of ALL countries and controls every aspect of politics, commerce, religion, industry, banking, insurance, mining, and even the drug trade. Learn how this small elite group who are answerable to NO ONE, except its members, have pulled the strings on ALL major world events and why, until now, few people have even been aware of its existence, let alone power, in manipulating the affairs of the entire WORLD. All of these members are revealed, including all of the corporations, government agencies and various movements which "they" have developed and control to further their own aims for WORLD DOMINATION. [link to www.barefootsworld.net] |
Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 United States 01/03/2009 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the big bankers are scared, then it must be good for the average people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585084I echo that! If the bankers are looting, they will be sorely disappointed when a new system is instituted and their dollars are devalued and amount to nothing worth trading. They will be in the same boat as the rest of us as we allow the reboot. I am not speaking of the Amero. I don't think the Amero is going to happen. It is going to be something very different. I can't imagine what it is anymore, other than it will bring stability in a short time. Lots of people get caught up in the term One World Government, One World Order, etc. What if it means that everyone has the freedoms originally spoken about in the Bill of Rights? Along with monetary equity? What is the problem with having health care, education, food, housing, and the basic needs handled thru a world system that is tailored to each countries needs, and each area of each countries needs? See, many are thinking in terms of how it is now and some sort of continuation of this with an overlay of WORLD CONTROL. I do not think that is what is coming. It is something new. I agree with the person who said that martial law is for our protection, AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT DISARM THE CITIZENS. That way each can defend themselves from chaos, but the yahoos get taken care of by the military. I myself do not own a gun, so I do would assistance. As far as Obama and his planned civil militia goes. Hmmm...at first I would think this is not part of it and won't happen, but as I write, I'm thinking that maybe that is where civilian guns go! Into an organized group to protect the people along side the military. This would prevent yahoo vigilante groups and keep the peace. I'm just thinking out loud.... Maybe we are looking at the arrest of the bad guys after all that has been downplayed so as not to scare them off, though in a World event this would no longer be possible. Perhaps Obama's silence on the Gaza Massacre has something to do with this too.... I sure hope so. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 585084 United States 01/03/2009 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of people get caught up in the term One World Government, One World Order, etc. Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783What if it means that everyone has the freedoms originally spoken about in the Bill of Rights? Along with monetary equity? What is the problem with having health care, education, food, housing, and the basic needs handled thru a world system that is tailored to each countries needs, and each area of each countries needs? Annie, you really need to visit this site. It proposes to do just that and we need millions of signatures. Thanks [link to wwunited.org] |
Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 United States 01/03/2009 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of people get caught up in the term One World Government, One World Order, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585084What if it means that everyone has the freedoms originally spoken about in the Bill of Rights? Along with monetary equity? What is the problem with having health care, education, food, housing, and the basic needs handled thru a world system that is tailored to each countries needs, and each area of each countries needs? Annie, you really need to visit this site. It proposes to do just that and we need millions of signatures. Thanks [link to wwunited.org] I will check it out, AC. I think that whatever is coming, has been decided and is waiting to be implemented. So this project will not be needed, if all its mission statements are fulfilled! If it is something I agree with I will sign. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 585203 United States 01/03/2009 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you will never know this, but you can see this if you try. The illuminati is not the elite. Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783That has been said, yes. The Illuminati and Freemasons were infiltrated long ago. Tsarion talks about this. So does Fulford. You're fucking daft. Wow! This is earth. Have we met? |
Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 United States 01/03/2009 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you will never know this, but you can see this if you try. The illuminati is not the elite. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585203That has been said, yes. The Illuminati and Freemasons were infiltrated long ago. Tsarion talks about this. So does Fulford. You're fucking daft. Wow! This is earth. Have we met? I hope not. But since you are not expressing what you have an issue with in the quoted statement, I cannot address it. Let me expand on my own. The illuminati are not "ET". It was a name given to groups of highly educated people whose purpose was to hold knowledge and teach it to those who could better the world. It was infiltrated by those who wanted control of the world. That would be the elite. And the elite are who control the world for their own benefit right now. This is a very very simple explanation that someone like you who jumps to conclusions w/o asking appropriate questions can understand. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 549836 United States 01/03/2009 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hawaiian Government INDEX: Government, Sovereignty POSTED: 1/02/2009 EDITOR: Juan Wilson SUBHEAD: A response to others who questions Hawaiian's fight for justice SOURCE: KANE PA [email protected] GOAL: Is to educate the people of HAWAII and the WORLD that the Reinstated Lawful Hawaiian Government has INITIATED the process of RECLAIMING all of the NATIONAL lands that belongs to the INHERENT SOVEREIGNTY the key word is inherent sovereignty. (KANAKA MAOLI) MISSION: To PEACEFULLY demonsrtate that the Reinstated Hawaiian Nation OWN'S all the NATIONAL lands ( Real and Chattel Property) prior to the Overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii on January 17-1893. ( Queens Proclamation stated to reinstate our country not reorganize it for America). image above: NASA shot of Hawaiian islands. Kauai in foreground looking southeast by Kane Pa on 31 December 2008 Where is our Hawaiian Nation's Hawaiian government that they acknowledge was violated under international law, this is the BIG question. Reinstating our Hawaiian Government (RHG) is the only sollution, Kanaka maoli don't own ceded lands, we own our national lands. Which includes Government, crown and all national lands. The State of Hawaii didn't overthrow our country, they received stolen property that was illegally ceded to the U.S. from the Republic of Hawaii that was and still is the DE-FACTO Provisional Government. You want justice without a Hawaiian government. Who do you expect the courts to agree is the government it belongs to. Public Law 103-150 stated that it belongs to our Hawaiian government and that Queen Lili'uokalani preserved our inherent sovereignty's perfect right to reinstate the nation. Please tell me why do we continue to protest that it belongs to our people and yet our people don't follow the very laws that stated we have the right to form and select a government of our own choice. I don't disagree on your intentions, but there is a proper claimant and it's the Hawaiian Government that our ancesters created. Prime Minister Henry Noa is the first to educate our people about reinstatement and why we need to reinstate our former Hawaiian government first and most. Yes you may disagree, but we choose to reinstate the Hawaiian government, manifest our political authority, so we can prove that we lawfully exist. We are doing this for you and your children. Understand how international law works. If the Supreme Court ask you where's your government, what is your response? Do you have one? Will you tell the Supreme Court and the world that you didn't build one yet? You came this far without a government, or a citizen base, (Hawaiian Nationals). Where do you go from there? The United States won't give up our lands, we need to take it back by law using International law. Kahoolawe is the first step then in reinstating the Hawaiian government's properties. Please understand how the law works. We will be their for the march. We must come together as everyone says. Sign up and run for office. The RHG never excluded anyone from participating in our process. Why should we wait for others to say when we can or cannot reinstate our former Hawaiian Government? We exercised our perfect right by not waiting anymore. An important detail of Public Law 103-150 is that it has a seven year statue of limitation to respond to the claim. That began November 23 1993. The RHG reinstated the Hawaiian Nation March 13 1999. Support our ancestors support your kupuna's and support our RHG for all. Reinstated Hawaiian Government 31st constitutional convention at Io'lani Palace on January 16-18, 2009. January 17th is the big march expecting 10,000 to 15,000 people. Prime Minister Henry Noa will meet with DLNR. The rules have change, thanks to individuals claiming individual status. RHG is moving forward as planned on what ever the dicussion is between RHG and DLNR. We are recording Human rights violations for our law firm in Europe, so they can begin to build our case in the Hague. Federal and State of Hawaii passed into law H.R.S. Act 359, 1999. To be govern by an sovereign nation of our own choosing. The key word is Sovereign Nation. The Akaka bill is merely to pass our sovereignty to the United States - Nothing more and nothing less. They intend to violate the very laws that they passed that acknowledge we have the right to form our government. Why do they pass these laws and punish our people for violating the very law that gives us our rights? That seems a human rights violations upon our Reinstated Hawaiian Nationals. [link to islandbreath.org] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 549836 United States 01/03/2009 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Open Letter From Kanaka Maoli Kupuna to Obama Submitted by andrea on Fri, 01/02/2009 - 10:41am. * Community * Government * Hawaiian Issues * Human Rights * State, Hawaii Dear President-elect Barak Obama: We, the undersigned Kanaka Maoli (Hawaiian) kupuna (elder spokespersons), write this Open Letter to you on behalf of many in our Kanaka Maoli nation who are indigenous to these islands in which you were born, to welcome you home, with your Chicago ‘ohana (family), for a well-deserved nanea (rest and relaxation). We join with millions the world over to ho‘omaika‘i (congratulate) you on your election and upcoming inauguration as the 44th president of the United States of America, and to applaud your inspiring message of Hope and Change for a world in desperate need of a lasting peace that, we all know, can only blossom with pono (justice). As you share this season of renewal here with us on O‘ahu, we feel compelled to direct your attention to the plight inflicted by the U.S. on our Kanaka Maoli people and lands since 1893 when the U.S. first invaded our islands. This century-long plight has caused our people to now suffer the highest rates of homelessness, poverty, school drop-out, prison incarceration, heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes, hypertension, smoking, alcoholism and drug addiction. Our people now demand redress, which we respectfully herewith summarize: 1. Our Kanaka movement for redress, smoldering since 1893, erupted in January 1993 on the occasion of the centennial anniversary of the U.S. armed control of our homeland, and now grows stronger every day. This 1893 landing, carried out in shameful complicity with local haole (white) businessmen, effected the overthrow of our revered Queen Lili‘uokalani. One hundred years of political and cultural suppression later, 15,000 of us Kanaka Maoli, acting on behalf of our wronged nation, gathered in 1993 at ‘Iolani Palace in Honolulu to denounce the illegality and duplicity of that overthrow, and to reclaim our full sovereignty under international law. 2. Seven months later, in August 1993, our People's International Tribunal -- composed of international public figures, including three eminent U.S. law professors, collected evidence on five of our major islands and found the U.S. guilty of the said 1893 transgression, as well as of subsequent crimes, including the 1898 illegal U.S. annexation and military occupation of our homeland, the 1959 fraudulent Statehood vote and admission process, and the continuing theft of our national lands with ethnocidal effect on our people. 3. Three months after our Tribunal handed down its verdict, the U.S. government itself, in November 1993, confirmed the essential truth of that verdict in an official document: U.S. Congress Apology Resolution (PL 103-150). Signed by U.S. President William Clinton, it acknowledged the agency of the U.S. in the 1893 overthrow of our sovereign government, the usurpation of our national lands, and the suppression of our people's right to self-determination, all of this in violation of bilateral treaties as well as international law. Indeed, the Resolution expressly recognized that we Kanaka Maoli have never formally relinquished to the U.S. our sovereignty, lands, or self-determination. Moreover, the U.S. pledged, in the Resolution, to acknowledge the ramifications of the overthrow so as to identify a basis for reconciliation between the U.S. and our Kanaka Maoli people. 4. The U.S., however, has never fulfilled this pledge. Moreover, the Akaka Bill (now titled "Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act") introduced in Congress in 2000, and continually revised since, attempts to close off the very opening for reconciliation that the Resolution tendered. The Bill does this in three offensive ways: a) by unilaterally specifying the terms of reconciliation (Hawaii's Congressional delegation has held only one hearing on the Bill in our islands, in August 2000, when we Kanaka Maoli voiced overwhelming opposition to it); b) by providing for a sham "Native Hawaiian governing entity" on the order of existing Bureau of Indian Affairs-approved Indian tribal governments whose competence, the U.S. Supreme Court has held, is "subject to the plenary power of Congress;" and c) finally, by stating that the execution of the Bill shall constitute, on the part of our Kanaka Maoli nation, a quit-claim of all its past, present and future claims against the U.S. 5. Accordingly, we Kanaka Maoli appeal to you, Mr. President-elect, to join with us in constituting a high-level Kanaka Maoli-U.S. Commission, composed of recognized experts from our two nations, as well as from the international community, to review the ramifications of the injuries done to our Kanaka Maoli nation and people by the U.S. since 1893, and continuing through the 2000 introduction of the unacceptable Akaka Bill, with a view to proposing pono (just) and honorable remedies without which there can be no reconciliation. 6. In anticipation of the work of this Commission, we urgently ask you to bid the Democratic Party, which you head, to immediately withdraw the Akaka Bill from Congress's consideration. The tragedy which befell our Kanaka Maoli nation in 1893, the ramifications of which continue to this day, deserve the respect of a careful scrutiny by the proposed Commission, and by your presidency. The shallow and unilateral instrument of the Akaka Bill will only add insult to our previous injury, and will be roundly repudiated by our people. In closing, we urge you, even as you absorb the natural blessings of the land of your birth, to reflect on its spirit which permeated you as you grew up here in Hawai‘i: the spirit of pono, or alignment with that which is right and proper, just and correct. Me ka ‘oia‘i‘o (sincerely), Kekuni Blaisdell, M.D., Kupuna of Honolulu; Professor Emeritus of Medicine, Consultant, Department of Native Hawaiian Health, John A. Burns School of Medicine, University of Hawai‘i; Convenor, Kanaka Maoli Tribunal Komike Kihei Soli Niheu, Kupuna of Pu‘ukapu; Member of Na Kupuna Moku O Keawe; Nuclear Free and Independent Pacific Board Member, representing Rapa Nui and Ka Pae‘Aina (Hawai‘i) Lynette Hi‘ilani Cruz, Ph.D., Kupuna of O‘ahu, Assistant Professor of Anthropology, Hawai‘i Pacific University; President, Ka Lei Maile Ali‘i Hawaiian Civic Club. 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Anonymous Coward User ID: 585320 United States 01/03/2009 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of people get caught up in the term One World Government, One World Order, etc. Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783What if it means that everyone has the freedoms originally spoken about in the Bill of Rights? Along with monetary equity? What is the problem with having health care, education, food, housing, and the basic needs handled thru a world system that is tailored to each countries needs, and each area of each countries needs? Annie, you really need to visit this site. It proposes to do just that and we need millions of signatures. Thanks [link to wwunited.org] I will check it out, AC. I think that whatever is coming, has been decided and is waiting to be implemented. So this project will not be needed, if all its mission statements are fulfilled! If it is something I agree with I will sign. Thanks Annie |
didact User ID: 516173 United States 01/03/2009 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ben Fulford is hardly naive, and if you understood all that he has done to be in the position he is in now, you would understand this. Quoting: Annie Oakley 503783His HAARP beliefs are absolutely naive, not sure about the other stuff. Then you do not know too much about HAARP. You are uninformed. But your opinion about Fulford does not change what he knows. I listened to a couple of YT's of him yesterday; I'll admit I'm not up to speed on Fulford and his beliefs, but I do know about HAARP; I am unable to see how someone can draw a connection between heating the ionosphere and that causing an earthquake. The two are totally unrelated, and that IF HAARP even had a fraction of the power it needed to make any difference in the Earth's atmosphere. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 585346 Canada 01/03/2009 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, do you have reason to believe that the SCOTUS will favor the natives in this case? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 549836Yes So, that's the issue? You have foreknowledge of the SCOTUS ruling??? This will bring about the crisis??,, But then why did Biden say that nobody will believe that 'they' are right, and that 'they' will need the full support of,, their party? Pg 8 and 9,, seems to be the crux of this all,, or am I wrong? Probably wrong but hey what else is new? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 585111 United States 01/03/2009 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way - you may not get the REAL news on what goes down in Honolulu on the 17th - you may even get fake coverage and footage due to Hawaii going digital on the same date - 1/17 - 101 years to the day of the overthrow. ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 549836Many things are about to change. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 422858 United States 01/03/2009 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way - you may not get the REAL news on what goes down in Honolulu on the 17th - you may even get fake coverage and footage due to Hawaii going digital on the same date - 1/17 - 101 years to the day of the overthrow. ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 549836Many things are about to change. February 17th. [link to www.dtv.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 585346 Canada 01/03/2009 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just have to add ,, The United States seems to be on its last legs,, and subject to imminent evisceration. Drawn and quartered. At the same time I don't believe that AMERICA has died,, I also think that it'd be an ultimate offense to AMERICA if everything was just divvied up for people who bear NO SIGNIFICANT RELATION to the original suckers who LOST the land in the first place.,, Whichever of the dozens of different Asiatic and Polynesian tribes which had wandered these lands WAAAAAAY before any of the 'Injuns' from a mere couple hundred years ago. WHO THE FUCK is going to make the landgrab? They better damn well be ready to rock once they put it out there. Political Correctness in its sickest most fucked up form. Makes me sick. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 585111 United States 01/03/2009 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just have to add ,, The United States seems to be on its last legs,, and subject to imminent evisceration. Drawn and quartered. At the same time I don't believe that AMERICA has died,, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585346I also think that it'd be an ultimate offense to AMERICA if everything was just divvied up for people who bear NO SIGNIFICANT RELATION to the original suckers who LOST the land in the first place.,, Whichever of the dozens of different Asiatic and Polynesian tribes which had wandered these lands WAAAAAAY before any of the 'Injuns' from a mere couple hundred years ago. WHO THE FUCK is going to make the landgrab? They better damn well be ready to rock once they put it out there. Political Correctness in its sickest most fucked up form. Makes me sick. What an idiot there is no such thing as political correctness. You are are either right or wrong and just base that on morals/ PC is a term for spoiled brats who DO NOT wnat to have to do the right thing. Baby Whiners! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 585346 Canada 01/03/2009 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What an idiot there is no such thing as political correctness. You are are either right or wrong and just base that on morals/ PC is a term for spoiled brats who DO NOT wnat to have to do the right thing. Baby Whiners! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585111Out of all that, you focus on whether or not Political Correctness as a leftist, social engineering tool actually exists or not??? Are you just fucking BLIND??? Just listen to about an hour of conversation you have with friends or family these days and try to remember how many words you don't use or say anymore just because you were constantly bombarded by mass media with new fucking catchphrases every other day and you don't feel like hurting some random jackass's feelings. Just think about what happened to the workplace in general when every other stupid bitch like you started complaining and legislating the life out of work,, fuck that, you eaters take the life out of LIFE. Go fuck yourself you stupid bump on a log. You're so fucking idiotic I seriously want to pound some sense into you. |
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