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LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS
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Must be Heaven over there
1/12/2005 5:30 PM
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U.S. Military
U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS, REFUSES RE-DEPLOYMENT TO IRAQ; TWO SOLDIERS ATTEMPT SUICIDE AT 2-7 INFANTRY, 17 GO AWOL
Benderman Case sparks media feeding-frenzy as Army desperately initiates damage control measures
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He can have HIS SUPERIORS HUNG OUT TO DRY--WORTH THE READ
01/10/2005
Ft. Stewart, GA (know it well)
On Friday, January 7, 2005 Sergeant Kevin Benderman, stationed with the 2-7 Infantry Battalion at Ft. Stewart, Georgia, refused an order from the Command Sergeant Major of his unit Samuel Coston to deploy to Iraq and requested a General Courts-Martial.
Benderman, 40 is a combat veteran, having served one tour in Iraq in 2003 during which a Captain in his command ordered soldiers from Benderman’s outfit to fire on children throwing rocks at unit personnel. Having personally witnessed this and other illegal acts by military personnel during his tour, Benderman now says that under no circumstances will he participate further in the war in Iraq, a war Secretary General of the United Nations Kofi Annan has labeled "illegal".
Benderman has applied for Conscientious Objector status. His commanders have not yet acted on his request, as required by Army regulations.
In further developments this weekend, it has been confirmed that Specialist J.R. Burt and Specialist David Beals, also of 2-7 attempted suicide rather than deploy to Iraq, and an additional seventeen soldiers in 2-7 Infantry Battalion have gone AWOL for the same reason. Army sources who have been granted anonymity because they feared retaliation stated that both Burt and Beals are being harassed and mistreated on the Psychiatric Ward of Winn Army Hospital by unit commanders and a civilian, Dr. Capp who in apparent violation of state law is reported as informing them of the harsh punishments they may expect should they refuse deployment. In addition, SFC Johnson, 2-7 platoon sergeant for Spec. Beals reportedly told him recently "…when I get you to Iraq, I’m going to get you killed," in the presence of several witnesses who say this incident was a catalyst in Beals’ attempted suicide.
Winn Army Hospital Public Affairs Officer Laurie Kemp refused to even confirm that the two Specialists had been admitted to the hospital.
The 2-7 Chaplain, Captain Matt Temple in a letter addressed to Benderman today stated that: "It is unfortunate that you have chosen the course of action you have taken. You should have had the moral fortitude to deploy with us and see me here in Kuwait to begin your CO application. To expect me to complete an interview with you within 48 hours of a major deployment was unreasonable and quite inconsiderate of my own time. I would have gladly helped you once we got here. As an NCO in the US ARMY, I expected a greater display of maturity from you. Furthermore, for you to have media personnel contacting me at my personal email address without first acquiring my permission was very unprofessional of you. You should be ashamed of the way you have conducted yourself. I certainly am ashamed of you. I hope you will see your misconduct as an opportunity to upgrade your character and moral behavior for your own good and the good of your fellowman." Benderman said the letter disgusted him, stating "Nothing in my career as a professional soldier has prepared me to respond to something like that letter from the Chaplain."
Benderman’s congressional representative, Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has written a letter to his Battalion Commander Lt. Col. Todd Wood expressing her concern for Benderman’s rights and suggesting that Wood designate him as non-deployable to Iraq.
Support for Sergeant Benderman has been overwhelming, says his wife, Monica. "We are being swamped for interview requests by the media," she said on Monday.
Benderman has also garnered the support of an American icon and war hero, Colonel James "Bo" Gritz, USA (Ret.),.", One of the most decorated soldiers in U.S. Army history, Gritz led the only raid on a prisoner of war camp during the Vietnam War at Son Tay, North Vietnam, who profiled Benderman for three days running on his radio show "Freedom Call". Gritz has labeled previous charges by the Army in connection with Benderman’s refusal to deploy and statements to the press "ridiculous," savaging the officers of 2-7, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush on the air while calling Benderman "a hero" and his immediate superiors "weenies." One of the most decorated |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
I wonder what would happen if they all said N-O at the same time...The entire army says no and goes home.
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koptic
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
rumor says "training day" movie designed to expose truth about black officers |
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Sad truth
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
this is from a vet from the nam days so please dont take this the wrong way.
In one way he/they are right if they had orders to shoot children the first time.
In combat you follow orders or /depending on your leader/you could get one in your back.Now that they have been thru it once,they should choose not to have to do it again.Forty years old probably with kids.Tough to hold your children with that on your conscience.
On the other they are betraying their brothers in arms.But these people if they are sent back over to Iraq they will most likely never come back.
They are now between a rock and a hard place
They will have no where to hide. Sad |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
im sure these folk are not worring about thc cost of the inaugaration and im sure the people involved in that are not concerned one bit about these troops.CannonFodder.com |
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another instance
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
The Louisiana National Guard held a public service for six soldier who died in Iraq. The Pentagon had asked the Louisiana National Guard not to hold a public service, but the guard decided to follow the wishes of the family and hold a public service. |
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A sCot
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Wouldn´t it be great if soldiers the world over listened to and acted on the wishes of the people they are sworn to protect instead of the people who dish out the orders .....
Think about it .. who are they protecting us against anyway ? Corporations, Governments ... Probably about 0.00000000001% of the population. |
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Green
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Notwithstanding the propaganda, there is no such thing as an "Army of One." While one man may stand up to the system and say no more, his act will have no impact other than to save his soul.
Perhaps saving one´s soul is good enough motivation. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Green, one plus one plus one..... |
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Cannoncocker
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Bo Gritz did a lot in Vietnam, but he was not on the Son Tay raid, much less lead it. Charlie Beckwith, who later helped form the original Delta Force, led the Son Tay action. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
I hope they all begin to STAND UP and really fight! |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Believe me, TPTB are going to hand it to us in our faces before this ride is over.
Must say I admire the courage of that Sergeant.
Americans and all others will have to choose.
Yeah man, de revolushan ah come! |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
how can the leaders be so upbeat when their house of cards is starting to crumble.Sooner then later the American Public is going to have to hear the truth.Only problem is if the leaders are capable of telling it. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
I´d like to send my own email to that chaplain; anyone got his address? |
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WFT is THIS?
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
The Pentagon had asked the Louisiana National Guard not to hold a public service,
The Pentagon had asked the Louisiana National Guard not to hold a public service,
The Pentagon had asked the Louisiana National Guard not to hold a public service,
The Pentagon had asked the Louisiana National Guard not to hold a public service, |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
30 years from now ,God willing ,some soldier from who served in this conflict will be running for office.He then may mention some of the horrors of war and the unfortunate killing of innocents-ordered or non ordered.And some one opposed to him on the other side,not having his/her hands bloodied will tear into him/her.They will not do it themselves but have their minions do it and they will be convincing..So to you young people on this board.Make a note in your sub concious |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
When someone orders you to shoot children you simply shoot the bastard, soon there will be no more bastards. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Now if you shoot the bastard the army can either drop it or hold a public trial where they try you for shooting a bastard who tried to get you to shoot children. |
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What to Do
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
What about all these people scheduled to go back who thought they were fighting to protect America from the WMD"s that Iraq had.
Today the US formally announced that the search for them has ceased.They also said that they took the people off the case over a month ago.
Now if you were being recycled back to Iraq--and you actually joined because of the WMD,wouldnt you be a little ticked? |
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Bush says worth it
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Bush says worth it--What do the Grunts say?
"Now that the search is finished, President Bush needs to explain to the American people why he was so wrong."
Jan. 12, 2005 — The invasion of Iraq, which ousted Saddam Hussein and has cost the lives of some 1,300 U.S. military personnel and billions of dollars, was "absolutely" worth it, despite the absence of any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, President Bush told ABC News´ Barbara Walters in an exclusive interview that will air this Friday.
The White House acknowledged today that there is no longer an active search for Iraqi weapons. The Bush administration does not hold out hopes that any weapons will ever be found. |
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Semper Fi
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Eat the Apple, fuck the Core.
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Once upon a time, in a world far far away, officers were afraid of their soldiers who had been drafted to fight in a war they could not understand. Today the officers are less afraid of their men and the men more afraid of their situation. Ah how sweet the jest, ignorant men fight and die for no cause at all, and the DU blows in the wind around the world. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Don’t get your hopes up folks. This sort of shit goes on in every war. The only difference is there seems to be more media coverage but I’m guessing that’s because the worlds much smaller now with the internet. Most soldiers I knew in the British army wouldn’t give a fuck if they were told to kill their own mothers and those that did give a fuck would have obeyed orders. In the UK all soldiers swear allegiance and obedience to the Queen and her lieutenants (Government, Officers etc) and I would imagine the US forces swear allegiance to the government. The people have no army and remember it will be your brave little boys and girls who will mow you down when push comes to shove. May god have mercy on us all. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
I truly feel for our soldiers and the hell that they must be going through.
But, they could stop this hell by simple doing what they swore to do. They should take over our government operations and remove the cowardly bastards that are destroying our Constitution from the inside.
Not a single one of those elected officials that signed the Patriot Act should be allowed to ever hold office again. In fact, they should be brought up on charges of treason and shot for it. Or better yet sentenced to life at hard labor cleaning up the mess made in Irag and Afganistan.
All three branches need to be completely cleaned out. The military would run things until the proper elections take place. Something like this should take no more than six months to complete.
The first order of business should be to scrap all laws that violate the Constitution no matter who put them in place, going back as far as need be. The wrong people have been in office for a long time. We have not gotten to where we are just during the Bush dictatorship. These traitors have been planning this for a long time. There are no terrorist that hate our freedom. Only politicans that hate our freedoms and want to make slaves out of all of us. So far they have done a damn good job.
Then maybe our children, husbands, wifes, mothers, fathers, etc. can find peace in there hearts. Knowing that they did what they swore to and set things right, instead of continuing to fight a war based on lies.
BRING ALL OF AMERICA´S CHILDREN HOME NOW!!
Peace to one and all forever starting now. |
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Haudegen
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Requiem for a once great nation. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
"""Semper Fi
1/13/2005
2:28 am EST Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS
""""""Eat the Apple, fuck the Core.""""""""""
DU for sure-----i am sure the civi´s in office not are worried about it.Least of their problems.
Give the herd something to do every day when/if they (wait for your turn at the VA for treatment)
return home.It really suks. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Remember when Pappy was caught red-handed cooking the economy forecast books?
Well, that was it for him
WMD. gw
America, wake up
George W Bush is cooking the Iraq books
the apple doesn´t fall far from the tree |
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Must be Heaven
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
seems this blurb scooped GLP.It appears on the home page today.
This man below was no coward--HE CHARGED THE POLICE
HERE IS ANOTHER
A 19-year-old """US Marine"""" committed “suicide by cop” rather than return to Iraq, police said today.
Andres Raya killed one police officer and critically injured another before being shot dead.
Police told the Modesto Bee newspaper that Raya appeared determined to die rather than return to duty in Iraq.
“It was premeditated, planned, an ambush,” said Mr de Werk.
“It was a suicide by cop.”
Raya was finally gunned down as he ran towards a group of officers, and apparently reached for a second weapon.
Raya returned to the US in September after spending seven months in Iraq.
He used an assault rifle, similar to the one he was trained to use in the military, for the attack.
Julia Cortez Raya told the newspaper that her son served in Fallujah.
She said: “He came back different.” |
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END World Poverty 2005
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
I really do hate people who commit suicide or try to commit suicide in ways that effect others. They should be ashamed and will go to hell. If they want to kill themselves fine, But they can do it in a way that involves no 1 else. Cut their wrists, chop their own head off ect ect. But Making someone else kill them is not right, That other person could face charges, lose his job, suffer from shock of killing someone. Same as people who try to get killed by trains They dont think it could cause a crash, and endanger more lives. Just because they had a bad life dont mean they can make others suffer.
As for the soldiers in iraq. Well even tho the war was based on a lie. It is there duty to obey orders, and freeing a country is a worth while cause, if victory can be obtained here, Then this will have a great impact on the world. The problem is Bush and his administration Pissing off the rest of the world, So no 1 wants to help. Just 1 of Many crimes that bush will be held accountable for after he leaves office.
END WORLD POVERTY 2005
Help stop 30,000 people dieing every day from lack of food, Water, and basic Medical care, |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
we will be seeing more rebellion with the war and people will refuse to fight...isn´t this wonderful??? |
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END World Poverty 2005
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
Rebellion is not going to solve much, the whole military should stand up and complain about bush´s lack of care for the troops. But they will have to keep doing their jobs. Wide scale rebellion would just make the United States Army look Stupid and very weak, and could be the start of world war III, other nations may cease the moment of americas weakness and attack.
And as much as we all hate america, Things could be far worse :)
END WORLD POVERTY 2005
Help Stop 30,000 people dieing every day from lack of food, water, and basic medical care. |
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Anonymous Coward
12/8/2005 10:11 AM | | Re: LOOKS LIKE A MINI REBELLION IS BREWING--U.S. ARMY SERGEANT DEFIES ORDERS | Quote |
The plan may be to destroy the US army/navy etc.
What is the next strongest army which is not part of the Iraq coalition?
China?
Russia?
Israel?
Who can pick up the pieces? Whoever can, will. |
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