The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.

The level of corruption(pro-ZioNazi) here and elsewhere is staggering. Even more disturbing, the amount of asskissing by the GLP hoi polloi to these charlatans is gargantuan!

Controlled opposition. They have sleepers everywhere!


It just kills ya that people disagree with your idiotic notions, doesn't it?

They must be "zionazi sleepers" right? Yeah-yeah - that must be it!



Pinhead
:&ardo:

Thanks SHR! Plain and simple - just the way I like it.

LOL

If they are "gods chosen people" then why the fuck are they using yank weapons to kill arabs?


Surely god would have them spitting fire out of their eyes?


More BS from a yank brown shirt....


Aren't you busy giving your country away to the mullahs?

C'mon - bend over - chop chop!

Welp, since there is a confrontation going on, I thought it would be time to post this as it's own thread.

Here ya go...Historicaly accurate and simple terminology.

Yeah it dogs the Arabs at the end...but IMO they deserve some dogging, so flame on. Write a counter to it...if you can...;)

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Israel is where it is today because that's where the holy land, land of the Jews whatever the fuck anyone wants to call it. Same place it has been since biblical times, which is as far as I'm concerned is all the bible has to do with it, biblical times happened there and all that "Chosen people" junk doesn't come into play for the actual and real history of the region. It's not like Israel used to be in Australia during the bible days and someone just decided to move it where it is now because there was less humidity, it's where it's been since....forever, called whatever, but that's the place geographically.

Through the centuries various empires have more or less "owned" the region, the Romans, the Turks with the Ottoman empire, the British when they ruled Britannia, yada yada various owners over eons. In the late 19th century some Jews thought it would be a good idea to move back to the holy land from biblical times where there used to plenty of em as well as a bunch of Arabs, mostly Syrians, all living together. So they begin to buy some land, and some Jews start to move there. These are the original "Zionists". The Ottoman empire of the Turks own the region at this time and there aren't a whole lot people there, sparse Arabs that call themselves Syrians and a lot of the area itself is mostly a crap hole infested with camel spiders and malaria ridden swamps. The Jews that go there begin to work on draining the swamps and riding the area of malaria. Lot's of Arabs emigrate there too because there is work available spiffing up the land, and the land is getting better, all happy happy.

WWI happens and the Turks side with the Germans which was a piss poor choice because they lost. So the entire area gets "Mandated" to the British and French who were on the winning side, tough crap Turks, you lost, buh bye, you don't own the region anymore. So under the Sykes-Picot Agreement in 1916 the area gets divided into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned (mandated) to France... and "Palestine" (today's Jordan, Israel and "West Bank") gets mandated to Great Britain. Since no one had ever established a homeland in the region since the Jews had like 2000 years ago in the bible times, the Brits looked pretty favorably at them doing it again, since they were already there and greatly improving living conditions.

Several years later in 1923 Britain divides the area they have control of. They take the Jordan river as the dividing line. West of that will be the only area that Jews will be allowed to own land, the other side will be the Arab side. So the country of Trans-Jordan is created. One side will be Arab-Palestine homeland, about 75% of the British mandate, the other side will be Jew-Palestine homeland, the remaining 25%. So the big side gets handed over to an Emir from what is now Saudi Arabia to take control over, who isn't even from the region, and that is pretty much the end of calling that a Palestinian-Arab homeland, cause he ain't a Palestinian.

Right around this time Arab Nationalism is growing strong, they start to launch attacks on the Jews in the 25% country. Some pretty bad ones like the Hebron massacres of 1929 and later during the 1936-39 Arab Revolt. The Brits try to maintain order for awhile, but there are now large oil deposits being discovered in the Middle east so they slack off and pretty much turn a blind eye to the fighting going on. Right about this time the Jews figure they are on their own so they had better start to defend themselves or they're gonna get wasted and nobody will care because the owners of the countries are more concerned about the oil they found close by. So they form up what is now known as the IDF to defend themselves from the Arabs attacking them as well as ultimately having the goal of chucking out the Brits and being an independent country one day since the Brits don't really give a crap about them anyway.

So several years go by and the New Jew defense force does pretty well handling itself against the Arabs attacking them. They also do pretty well against the pro Arab Brits as far as keeping them at bay too. During this time WWII happens, the Brits are pretty busy with the Nazi War machine as most of Europe and the rest of the world are. The Nazis roast and kill a ton of Jews during WWII and have some pretty serious Jew hate genocide psychosis deal going on. The Jews are plenty pissed off about that one, but they hold their own in Palestine-Jew land and survive, various squabbling continues with the Arabs. So after WWII Britain is about done playing World War and British empire so they say fuck this crap going on there and turn the whole area over the newly formed UN to do whatever they want with it, they don't want any more part of it.

So the UN says OK we'll divide up Jew-Palestine land like this, going by where the Arabs and the Jews are already at, here yas go, Jew-Palestinian homeland here and Arab-Palestinian Homeland there, divided out of what used to be all Jew-Palestine land, have at it. The Arabs say, fuck you we want all of it, and the Jews say fuck you back we are already here, plus you nimrods of the rest of the world keep dividing Jew-Palestine land down and we were the ones that brought this shithole up to some halfway decent living standards years and years ago, so we ain't leavin it now. Israel says fuck you Arabs you ain't takin the whole thing and leavin us with nothing, we're taking what the UN gave us, which ain't much, before someone figures out how to divide more away. So Israel declares itself a State along the lines of UN resolution 181 and says now we're called Israel and everyone here is Israelis, fuck you we exist now. We got everyone involved in this deal trying to screw us over and or attack us for decades, plus the Nazis just tried to bake a shitload of us, we got a little spot here, leave us the fuck alone already and quit killin and attackin' us.

The very next day 7 Arab nations Launch a full scale assault on the new country of Israel to blow them off the planet. A lot of Arabs that were living in the new state of Israel haul ass because there is a war coming. Also the Arab nations tell them that once they kick the Jews asses in Israel they can have all that land, so they book and figure they'll make out good after, that was the beginning of the "Palestinian Refugee crisis" So the Arab plan to annihilate Israel doesn't really work out so swell, in fact the Arabs get their asses kicked, badly, and the Jews take a few chunks of land away to boot. The Arabs are really pissed so they tell all their Muslim buddy nations to chuck out all the Jews that have lived there for centuries, fuck them, pitch em out and take whatever they own. This is the beginning of the Jew refugee crisis.

So the Jews that get kicked out of Morocco, Algeria, etc etc say welp might as well head over to the new Jew homeland of Israel because at least maybe we catch a break there. The Arab refugees all get piled into the GAZA and West bank area and the Arab loser nations pretty much refuse to allow them to leave because they are crying about getting their asses beat by the Jews and they'd prefer to have a "Refugee crisis" to point at and cry over. Egypt has taken over the GAZA area during this war and Trans-Jordan has annexed the west bank and decides it won't be called Trans-Jordan anymore, since it doesn't really extend over the Jordan river, so now we're just called Jordan. Jordan grants the west bank Palestinians citizenship, Egypt says fuck you GAZANs we don't want you and keeps them penned in the GAZA strip, even under gunfire, we're gonna keep you in there as "refugees".

More time passes and the Arabs get together to try and blast Israel off the planet again in 1967. They mass up some pretty big armies and are ready to go and say the "objective is the annihilation of Israel" openly, but the Israelis see this coming and say fuck you Arabs we know you are going to attack us just like last time. The Israelis launch a pre-emptive attack on all the Arab armies massed up and kick the Arabs asses even worse this time. The Jew military takes the entire Sinai Peninsula away from Egypt and occupy the GAZA strip and take a few other minor hunks of land like the Golan Heights from Syria which the Jews were getting shelled from. Now the Arabs are Reeeeally Pissed off, they have lost a lot and they totally look like punks, Arabs don't like that. Israel kicked the crap out of 3 Arab nation's armies in only 6 days, and that war becomes known as the 6 day war.

Well the Arabs never got over that a little upstart Jew country beat ass on the mighty Arab armies, more than once. Over the next several decades to present day they have encouraged various attacks and suicide bombers etc etc perpetuated the "Refugee crisis" and have pretty much never quit whining and crying since about how the evil Jews shouldn't be there, blah blah, occupying Jew bastards etc etc but it all boils down to the fact that they got their asses beat more than once and Israel is a monument to their failure.

Over the decades Israel gave back a ton of land to the Arabs in the hopes that they would quit attacking and launching rockets at em, they even gave Egypt back the whole Sinai peninsula which is more land mass than all of Israel itself. Some peace accords have kinda worked but the Arabs keep crying like the loser bitches they are and keep blowing shit up and shooting various homemade piece of shit rockets into Israel because they are punk ass cry babies and can't get over being losers....more than once.

Wait! Let's put the Israelis in Palestine, and lock them up! Then perhaps they could be justified in thier bombings......

Israeli children sign their missiles ‘with love’:

[link to wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com]


Never have I witnessed such an appalling display of utter contempt for human life. And they're not even ashamed to beam it across the globe, for all the world to see.



THIS is who our tax dollars support - an arrogant, war-like people who indoctrinate their children in the art of murderous and cavalier warfare.
Dear Lebanese/ Palestinian/ Canadian/ American/ Muslim/ Christian/ Australian/ or Anyone else who stands in our way,

DIE.

love,
Israeli Kids
Not in so many words, but even a love ballad would kill the recipient - using flowery words makes it all the more twisted.

the question is. Why is isreal or the evil powers contoling isreal so evil.

Sadly it really looking like the best way for peace in the world is to do away with isreal. Just move all the jews over to florida or new york. THere are more jews there now anyway. They'll all feel at home finally.


Because they won't be satisfied with controlling just NY or FL. It's sad but apparently true that since the holocaust when 6 million Jews and 12 million+ non jews were slaughtered that jewish people everywhere are suffering from mass PTSD.

They consider anything less than dominance of the world's political apparatus as an invitation to be targeted again. They have a severe over reaction to perceived threats.

"never again" means "never US again, fuck everybody else".

Jews need to learn to assimilate, stop pretending that they are chosen people and stop cultivating a psuedo seperation between themselves and everybopdy else on earth. Th reason they were targeted in Europe is because they isolated themselves culturally instead of assimilating and becoming ordinary citizens.

Besides there isn't even a definition of what makes somebody jewish! It isn't race, ethnicity, bloodlines, maternal bloodlines or religion but some helterskelter adhoc concoction of all of the above.

There is no such thing as a Jewish people today.

Still don't know why my country should care one way or the other...


Reason in simplist terms...... Religious xenophobia.

It begins with a religious belief in the so-called "chosen people", and ends with a common hatred of muslims by a large percentage of population.


First they came for the Palestinians, and I said nothing because I wasn't Palestinian.

Hmmmmm, I started out fully on the jewish side years ago. From what I've learned they are not blessed people at all. Cursed would be more accurate and it seems deservedly so. I also believe those that call themselves jews today are a group that have hijacked the religion (which I think was hijacked from another group. Summerians?) and called themselves the "Chosen" people. Humanity is a scary damn thing.

yep!! that is the history and for the life of me..i can't understand why people hate israel so much.....

Wow I got a pin...kewl....lol...:)
Been working all day, so haven't had a chance to read all the replies...I will try and respond to some later on..;)

To a few? Yes I wrote the whole thing.

Yes I know I left out the Balfour declaration because I never really thought it was that big a deal. A letter from the British foreign secretary in 1917 that said England looked with favor upon the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The whole thing was a few sentances...I would guess that some anti-Zionist types bring this up because it says something about not encroaching on the rights of non Jews in the area....since Israel didn't become a country until 1948 when Britain pretty much washed it's hands of the region?...Never really thought it held much play...but I could work it in...I tweak this essay whenever I bring it up...;)

Gonna watch a movie and eat some dinner...be back later and I'll banter back and forth with those who care to...:)

Lot's of great replies, from both sides... Israel is a passionate issue, across the globe...

Christianity, Islam and Judaic (jewish) faiths all spring from the same unique source, Zoroaster. Who ironically was Iranian, or Aryan/Persian.

His philosophies formed the initial basis of Judaism (Jewish faith), Christianity and Islam in that order.

His principle contributions to religious ideology were the notions of "good and evil" "truth and lies" as pertaining to religious ideology, and the concept of "chosen people".

I don't know whether Zoroaster was specifically the author of the idea that chosen people should slaughter non chosen people, but that is a trait common to judean, christian and islamic beliefs and historical practices.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ironically it really isn't true that religions cause wars and human conflicts.

Almost all of the religious wars in all of history were wars waged by Zarathustran religious followers. So were most of the genocides, in fact a huge chunk of all the evil that societies ever manifest they manifest due to their Zarathustran ideologies of good and evil, good people and evil people, chosen people and non chosen people.

The practice of labelling adversaries as evil has proven highly effective in motivating societies to slaughter rivals.

Christianity, Islam and Judaic (jewish) faiths all spring from the same unique source, Zoroaster. Who ironically was Iranian, or Aryan/Persian.

His philosophies formed the initial basis of Judaism (Jewish faith), Christianity and Islam in that order.

His principle contributions to religious ideology were the notions of "good and evil" "truth and lies" as pertaining to religious ideology, and the concept of "chosen people".

I don't know whether Zoroaster was specifically the author of the idea that chosen people should slaughter non chosen people, but that is a trait common to judean, christian and islamic beliefs and historical practices.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ironically it really isn't true that religions cause wars and human conflicts.

Almost all of the religious wars in all of history were wars waged by Zarathustran religious followers. So were most of the genocides, in fact a huge chunk of all the evil that societies ever manifest they manifest due to their Zarathustran ideologies of good and evil, good people and evil people, chosen people and non chosen people.

The practice of labelling adversaries as evil has proven highly effective in motivating societies to slaughter rivals.

Maybe, but "joo" is easier to say. Can you imagine some of these mindless haters trying to adapt their catch phrases to Zarathustrian?

Their heads would explode thinking about it...

What a fucking joke. "I wrote the whole thing", "I'm a big boy jew, with big boy writing skills".

I don't post most of the time, but this makes me want to puke.
Tell the people how Gaza has been converted into the largest open air prison. Holding 1.5 million people in poverty.
Oh but tell it in your big boy story telling way, it sounds so much fun. And big boy, you should tell the people how jews kick ass with American tech, while getting rocks thrown at them.
But please tell it in your big boy way of words.

Eustace Mullins in his New History of the Jews (1968), p. 95:

Christianity, Islam and Judaic (jewish) faiths all spring from the same unique source, Zoroaster. Who ironically was Iranian, or Aryan/Persian.

His philosophies formed the initial basis of Judaism (Jewish faith), Christianity and Islam in that order.

His principle contributions to religious ideology were the notions of "good and evil" "truth and lies" as pertaining to religious ideology, and the concept of "chosen people".

I don't know whether Zoroaster was specifically the author of the idea that chosen people should slaughter non chosen people, but that is a trait common to judean, christian and islamic beliefs and historical practices.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ironically it really isn't true that religions cause wars and human conflicts.

Almost all of the religious wars in all of history were wars waged by Zarathustran religious followers. So were most of the genocides, in fact a huge chunk of all the evil that societies ever manifest they manifest due to their Zarathustran ideologies of good and evil, good people and evil people, chosen people and non chosen people.

The practice of labelling adversaries as evil has proven highly effective in motivating societies to slaughter rivals.

Maybe, but "joo" is easier to say. Can you imagine some of these mindless haters trying to adapt their catch phrases to Zarathustrian?

Their heads would explode thinking about it...

The level of corruption(pro-ZioNazi) here and elsewhere is staggering. Even more disturbing, the amount of asskissing by the GLP hoi polloi to these charlatans is gargantuan!

Controlled opposition. They have sleepers everywhere!


It just kills ya that people disagree with your idiotic notions, doesn't it?

They must be "zionazi sleepers" right? Yeah-yeah - that must be it!



Pinhead




Or pathetic old coots! Or just plain fucking stupid! I reckon you susbscribe to both?


Why don't you PROVE me wrong? Can you?

Other than posting ONCE to insult ME, I didn't think so. You prove nothing other than an assassination on my credibility. Doesn't work that way, old man.

6 million? More like 500,000.....


Are you willfully perpetuating the lie?

Just asking.

Maybe, but "joo" is easier to say. Can you imagine some of these mindless haters trying to adapt their catch phrases to Zarathustrian?

Their heads would explode thinking about it...

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It can't be any easier than your knee-jerk reactions to anyone pointing out the OBVIOUS and BLATANT truth about the racist, apatheid state of Israhell............

Go move to Gaza- and tell us how the weather is over there when its rain bombs on everyone(including the innocents).

Now move along little Zionists and don’t let the door hit you on the way out…

What a fucking joke. "I wrote the whole thing", "I'm a big boy jew, with big boy writing skills".

I don't post most of the time, but this makes me want to puke.
Tell the people how Gaza has been converted into the largest open air prison. Holding 1.5 million people in poverty.
Oh but tell it in your big boy story telling way, it sounds so much fun. And big boy, you should tell the people how jews kick ass with American tech, while getting rocks thrown at them.
But please tell it in your big boy way of words.

Here's a site you'd really like, I believe:

[link to www.mommypleasetouchit.com]

In the words of the late Israeli General Moshe Dayan: “The declaration of the State of Israel in 1948 was at the expense of ethnically cleansing 513 Palestinian villages, creating over 700,000 Palestinian refugees and expropriating their lands, homes and businesses in 78% of Palestine … There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former (Palestinian) population.”
[link to desertpeace.wordpress.com]

Still don't know why my country should care one way or the other...


Reason in simplist terms...... Religious xenophobia.

It begins with a religious belief in the so-called "chosen people", and ends with a common hatred of muslims by a large percentage of population.


First they came for the Palestinians, and I said nothing because I wasn't Palestinian.



In the words of the late Israeli General Moshe Dayan: “The declaration of the State of Israel in 1948 was at the expense of ethnically cleansing 513 Palestinian villages, creating over 700,000 Palestinian refugees and expropriating their lands, homes and businesses in 78% of Palestine … There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former (Palestinian) population.”
[link to desertpeace.wordpress.com]

The practice of labelling adversaries as evil has proven highly effective in motivating societies to slaughter rivals.

Maybe, but "joo" is easier to say. Can you imagine some of these mindless haters trying to adapt their catch phrases to Zarathustrian?

Their heads would explode thinking about it...



It can't be any easier than your knee-jerk reactions to anyone pointing out the OBVIOUS and BLATANT truth about the racist, apatheid state of Israhell............

Go move to Gaza- and tell us how the weather is over there when its rain bombs on everyone(including the innocents).

Now move along little Zionists and don’t let the door hit you on the way out…

The level of corruption(pro-ZioNazi) here and elsewhere is staggering. Even more disturbing, the amount of asskissing by the GLP hoi polloi to these charlatans is gargantuan!

Controlled opposition. They have sleepers everywhere!


It just kills ya that people disagree with your idiotic notions, doesn't it?

They must be "zionazi sleepers" right? Yeah-yeah - that must be it!



Pinhead
:&ardo:



Or pathetic old coots! Or just plain fucking stupid! I reckon you susbscribe to both?


Why don't you PROVE me wrong? Can you?

Other than posting ONCE to insult ME, I didn't think so. You prove nothing other than an assassination on my credibility. Doesn't work that way, old man.






How do you "prove wrong" an infantile fantasy? Or do you "know" that the "zionazis" have "sleepers" everywhere? How do you know this? Are you an insider, or just another slurpee-sucking nazi-wannabe hillbilly?


I'm guessing that you're just another slurpee-sucking nazi-wannabe hillbilly - but you can go ahead and "prove me wrong"..


:kMGa2:

Wow, you like perpetuating this myth of anti israel equals anti Jew, huh? That's it, no other argument needed, if you're anti israel you're a Jew hater.

YOU=INTELLECTUALLY BANKRUPT