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| entropy
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12/28/2008 8:32 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Although I normally am critical of Israel I do not think they started it. This time. The most we can do is send positive hopes and energy(not to sound new age, i mean pray if you believe it will help) to the people effected both Palestinian and Israeli. The victims of war seldom chose the fight, there is responsibility on all sides to be taken. Hamas should not have violated the "cease fire".
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 479978
12/28/2008 8:45 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Welp, since there is a confrontation going on, I thought it would be time to post this as it's own thread.
Here ya go...Historicaly accurate and simple terminology.
Yeah it dogs the Arabs at the end...but IMO they deserve some dogging, so flame on. Write a counter to it...if you can...;)
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Israel is where it is today because that's where the holy land, land of the Jews whatever the fuck anyone wants to call it. Same place it has been since biblical times, which is as far as I'm concerned is all the bible has to do with it, biblical times happened there and all that "Chosen people" junk doesn't come into play for the actual and real history of the region. It's not like Israel used to be in Australia during the bible days and someone just decided to move it where it is now because there was less humidity, it's where it's been since....forever, called whatever, but that's the place geographically.
Through the centuries various empires have more or less "owned" the region, the Romans, the Turks with the Ottoman empire, the British when they ruled Britannia, yada yada various owners over eons. In the late 19th century some Jews thought it would be a good idea to move back to the holy land from biblical times where there used to plenty of em as well as a bunch of Arabs, mostly Syrians, all living together. So they begin to buy some land, and some Jews start to move there. These are the original "Zionists". The Ottoman empire of the Turks own the region at this time and there aren't a whole lot people there, sparse Arabs that call themselves Syrians and a lot of the area itself is mostly a crap hole infested with camel spiders and malaria ridden swamps. The Jews that go there begin to work on draining the swamps and riding the area of malaria. Lot's of Arabs emigrate there too because there is work available spiffing up the land, and the land is getting better, all happy happy.
WWI happens and the Turks side with the Germans which was a piss poor choice because they lost. So the entire area gets "Mandated" to the British and French who were on the winning side, tough crap Turks, you lost, buh bye, you don't own the region anymore. So under the Sykes-Picot Agreement in 1916 the area gets divided into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned (mandated) to France... and "Palestine" (today's Jordan, Israel and "West Bank") gets mandated to Great Britain. Since no one had ever established a homeland in the region since the Jews had like 2000 years ago in the bible times, the Brits looked pretty favorably at them doing it again, since they were already there and greatly improving living conditions.
Several years later in 1923 Britain divides the area they have control of. They take the Jordan river as the dividing line. West of that will be the only area that Jews will be allowed to own land, the other side will be the Arab side. So the country of Trans-Jordan is created. One side will be Arab-Palestine homeland, about 75% of the British mandate, the other side will be Jew-Palestine homeland, the remaining 25%. So the big side gets handed over to an Emir from what is now Saudi Arabia to take control over, who isn't even from the region, and that is pretty much the end of calling that a Palestinian-Arab homeland, cause he ain't a Palestinian.
Right around this time Arab Nationalism is growing strong, they start to launch attacks on the Jews in the 25% country. Some pretty bad ones like the Hebron massacres of 1929 and later during the 1936-39 Arab Revolt. The Brits try to maintain order for awhile, but there are now large oil deposits being discovered in the Middle east so they slack off and pretty much turn a blind eye to the fighting going on. Right about this time the Jews figure they are on their own so they had better start to defend themselves or they're gonna get wasted and nobody will care because the owners of the countries are more concerned about the oil they found close by. So they form up what is now known as the IDF to defend themselves from the Arabs attacking them as well as ultimately having the goal of chucking out the Brits and being an independent country one day since the Brits don't really give a crap about them anyway.
So several years go by and the New Jew defense force does pretty well handling itself against the Arabs attacking them. They also do pretty well against the pro Arab Brits as far as keeping them at bay too. During this time WWII happens, the Brits are pretty busy with the Nazi War machine as most of Europe and the rest of the world are. The Nazis roast and kill a ton of Jews during WWII and have some pretty serious Jew hate genocide psychosis deal going on. The Jews are plenty pissed off about that one, but they hold their own in Palestine-Jew land and survive, various squabbling continues with the Arabs. So after WWII Britain is about done playing World War and British empire so they say fuck this crap going on there and turn the whole area over the newly formed UN to do whatever they want with it, they don't want any more part of it.
So the UN says OK we'll divide up Jew-Palestine land like this, going by where the Arabs and the Jews are already at, here yas go, Jew-Palestinian homeland here and Arab-Palestinian Homeland there, divided out of what used to be all Jew-Palestine land, have at it. The Arabs say, fuck you we want all of it, and the Jews say fuck you back we are already here, plus you nimrods of the rest of the world keep dividing Jew-Palestine land down and we were the ones that brought this shithole up to some halfway decent living standards years and years ago, so we ain't leavin it now. Israel says fuck you Arabs you ain't takin the whole thing and leavin us with nothing, we're taking what the UN gave us, which ain't much, before someone figures out how to divide more away. So Israel declares itself a State along the lines of UN resolution 181 and says now we're called Israel and everyone here is Israelis, fuck you we exist now. We got everyone involved in this deal trying to screw us over and or attack us for decades, plus the Nazis just tried to bake a shitload of us, we got a little spot here, leave us the fuck alone already and quit killin and attackin' us.
The very next day 7 Arab nations Launch a full scale assault on the new country of Israel to blow them off the planet. A lot of Arabs that were living in the new state of Israel haul ass because there is a war coming. Also the Arab nations tell them that once they kick the Jews asses in Israel they can have all that land, so they book and figure they'll make out good after, that was the beginning of the "Palestinian Refugee crisis" So the Arab plan to annihilate Israel doesn't really work out so swell, in fact the Arabs get their asses kicked, badly, and the Jews take a few chunks of land away to boot. The Arabs are really pissed so they tell all their Muslim buddy nations to chuck out all the Jews that have lived there for centuries, fuck them, pitch em out and take whatever they own. This is the beginning of the Jew refugee crisis.
So the Jews that get kicked out of Morocco, Algeria, etc etc say welp might as well head over to the new Jew homeland of Israel because at least maybe we catch a break there. The Arab refugees all get piled into the GAZA and West bank area and the Arab loser nations pretty much refuse to allow them to leave because they are crying about getting their asses beat by the Jews and they'd prefer to have a "Refugee crisis" to point at and cry over. Egypt has taken over the GAZA area during this war and Trans-Jordan has annexed the west bank and decides it won't be called Trans-Jordan anymore, since it doesn't really extend over the Jordan river, so now we're just called Jordan. Jordan grants the west bank Palestinians citizenship, Egypt says fuck you GAZANs we don't want you and keeps them penned in the GAZA strip, even under gunfire, we're gonna keep you in there as "refugees".
More time passes and the Arabs get together to try and blast Israel off the planet again in 1967. They mass up some pretty big armies and are ready to go and say the "objective is the annihilation of Israel" openly, but the Israelis see this coming and say fuck you Arabs we know you are going to attack us just like last time. The Israelis launch a pre-emptive attack on all the Arab armies massed up and kick the Arabs asses even worse this time. The Jew military takes the entire Sinai Peninsula away from Egypt and occupy the GAZA strip and take a few other minor hunks of land like the Golan Heights from Syria which the Jews were getting shelled from. Now the Arabs are Reeeeally Pissed off, they have lost a lot and they totally look like punks, Arabs don't like that. Israel kicked the crap out of 3 Arab nation's armies in only 6 days, and that war becomes known as the 6 day war.
Well the Arabs never got over that a little upstart Jew country beat ass on the mighty Arab armies, more than once. Over the next several decades to present day they have encouraged various attacks and suicide bombers etc etc perpetuated the "Refugee crisis" and have pretty much never quit whining and crying since about how the evil Jews shouldn't be there, blah blah, occupying Jew bastards etc etc but it all boils down to the fact that they got their asses beat more than once and Israel is a monument to their failure.
Over the decades Israel gave back a ton of land to the Arabs in the hopes that they would quit attacking and launching rockets at em, they even gave Egypt back the whole Sinai peninsula which is more land mass than all of Israel itself. Some peace accords have kinda worked but the Arabs keep crying like the loser bitches they are and keep blowing shit up and shooting various homemade piece of shit rockets into Israel because they are punk ass cry babies and can't get over being losers....more than once. Quoting: SHR
Yeah well if you're selective enough you can make any point
you want. |
| Mickey Mouse
User ID: 433811
12/28/2008 8:55 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
" easy to understand, colorful language. "
Walt Disney was good at at that too. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 505615
12/28/2008 8:56 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
SHR's description isn't perfect, there are some nuances missing, but the general idea is correct. The Jews were already there, already a massive part of the population. Nobody really cared. It was only when they wanted to revert the name back to Israel did the Arabs get all spastic about it, and when you attack someone and lose, the other side starts making the rules.
After the better part of a century of starting shit and losing, honestly, the palestinians/arabs are probably lucky that Israel is only the way they are. Because personally, if it was my/my country, I wouldn't just sit back and call it cool at the borders.
Heck, look what we did when they took out a handful of buildings...we took over 2 countries!
Double standard? Nah...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 580773
Nice and smug sitting behind your computer talking tough with your fridge full Ill bet and no bombs falling on you. Not worried if your kids will get a bullet between their eyes when they go out and play in the street. Not worried if you are sick and cant get to any hospital. Not worried if you need an operation and there is no power. Or if you have a baby and have nothing to feed it and no hope to give it. Not worried if someone comes and bulldozes your house with you in it if your unlucky and uproots your orchards and pisses in your drinking water or sprays you with human shit while the world watches.
La la land is a nice place to live.
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| Angel_Eyes 
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User ID: 340940
12/28/2008 9:14 PM
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Too bad so many are still so full of hate towards Israel and its chosen people...... Nothing will ever open their eyes to the truth!
As proud children of science and reason, we have made ourselves the orphans of wisdom..... |
| Lotus Feet
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12/28/2008 9:23 PM
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Both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers. Heb 2:10-12 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.John 6:46 He made my mouth like a sharpened sword, in the shadow of his hand he hid me; he made me into a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.Isaiah 49:2 “Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
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| Lotus Feet
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User ID: 433953
12/28/2008 9:25 PM
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Too bad so many are still so full of hate towards Israel and its chosen people...... Nothing will ever open their eyes to the truth! Quoting: Angel_Eyes
All are the chosen but few choose to listen.
When the truth is told about the so-called chosen people it will indeed open the eyes of the world including many Jewish people.
Lotus
Both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers. Heb 2:10-12 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.John 6:46 He made my mouth like a sharpened sword, in the shadow of his hand he hid me; he made me into a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.Isaiah 49:2 “Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.”- Proverbs 19:20-21
THE VISION
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THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 505615
12/28/2008 9:28 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Are you willfully lying or just ignorant of the facts?
I have no particular interest in the situation, actually. I'm not a big fan of people only latching onto a portion of the facts and ignoring everything else. I feel for some of the Palestinians, and for some of the Israelis.
I don't like many of the hardcore, psychotic zionists, nor their palestinian/arab counterparts. If I had my way, we'd round up all the warmongers and toss them into the saltwater extraction systems on Israel's shoreline, and get somethign useful out of them.
The people I feel the most sympathy for, however, are those folks in areas outside the major cities and battlegrounds, who are arab, palestinian, and israeli, who are trying to live together peacefully, and each year outside forces stress and strain their relationships.
And of course, the sick part of the whole mess is that they all believe in the samn freakin' god... Quoting: falldown
Truth.....except for the
'they all believe in the samn freakin' god...'
Psycopathic Talmudic 'jews' believe Satan IS THEIR GOD. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 581518
12/28/2008 9:35 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
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[]... The Israeli government did indeed withdraw from the Gaza Strip in 2005 – in order to be able to intensify control of the West Bank. Ariel Sharon's senior adviser, Dov Weisglass, was unequivocal about this, explaining: "The disengagement [from Gaza] is actually formaldehyde. It supplies the amount of formaldehyde that is necessary so that there will not be a political process with the Palestinians... this whole package that is called the Palestinian state has been removed from our agenda indefinitely." .. []...
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| Anonymous Coward
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12/28/2008 9:38 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
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Ordinary Palestinians were horrified by this, and by the fetid corruption of their own Fatah leaders, so they voted for Hamas. It certainly wouldn't have been my choice – an Islamist party is antithetical to all my convictions - but we have to be honest. It was a free and democratic election, and it was not a rejection of a two-state solution. The most detailed polling of Palestinians, by the University of Maryland, found that 72 per cent want a two-state solution on the 1967 borders, while fewer than 20 per cent want to reclaim the whole of historic Palestine. So, partly in response to this pressure, Hamas offered Israel a long, long ceasefire and a de facto acceptance of two states, if only Israel would return to its legal borders.
[link to www.independent.co.uk] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 581518
12/28/2008 9:41 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Are you willfully lying or just ignorant of the facts?
I have no particular interest in the situation, actually. I'm not a big fan of people only latching onto a portion of the facts and ignoring everything else. I feel for some of the Palestinians, and for some of the Israelis.
I don't like many of the hardcore, psychotic zionists, nor their palestinian/arab counterparts. If I had my way, we'd round up all the warmongers and toss them into the saltwater extraction systems on Israel's shoreline, and get somethign useful out of them.
The people I feel the most sympathy for, however, are those folks in areas outside the major cities and battlegrounds, who are arab, palestinian, and israeli, who are trying to live together peacefully, and each year outside forces stress and strain their relationships.
And of course, the sick part of the whole mess is that they all believe in the samn freakin' god...
Truth..... except for the
'they all believe in the samn freakin' god...'
Psycopathic Talmudic 'jews' believe Satan IS THEIR GOD.
No they dont. They just know the god of the Bible (and talmud) is "Satan". And they falsely forces everyone to follow the wrong god.
They are protecting (basically hiding) the REAL WORDS OF GOD AND OF JESUS, from us all. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335304
12/28/2008 9:45 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Fuck israel  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 505615
12/28/2008 9:46 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Israel is where it is today because that's where the holy land, land of the Jews whatever the fuck anyone wants to call it. Same place it has been since biblical times, which is as far as I'm concerned is all the bible has to do with it,
EXACTLY!
:israel: Quoting: jarha
 Ya, Riiiight!
Land of semites, NOT the white skinned caucasian
eastern european FAKE jews. LOL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 494801
12/28/2008 9:50 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Just answer this: If Ishmael is not heir to the throne because he is illegitimate, then why is it the illegitimate British royalty are able to create Israel via the balfour conflict? |
| picesnator
User ID: 318318
12/28/2008 9:50 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Too bad so many are still so full of hate towards Israel and its chosen people...... Nothing will ever open their eyes to the truth! Quoting: Angel_Eyes
i'll never understand the hate...toward israel/jews....and i'm christian and yet...i stand in solidarity with Israel..lets face guys, if u ain't muslim, u are an infidel..they can KILL you...they can have their way with u [RAPE] and mohammed will be happy...anything goes, all things are justified...no matter what....There are no regilious taboo concerning infidels...god, i hope somethese morons get what i'm trying to say... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357831
12/28/2008 10:00 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Too bad so many are still so full of hate towards Israel and its chosen people...... Nothing will ever open their eyes to the truth!
i'll never understand the hate...toward israel/jews....and i'm christian and yet...i stand in solidarity with Israel..lets face guys, if u ain't muslim, u are an infidel..they can KILL you...they can have their way with u [RAPE] and mohammed will be happy...anything goes, all things are justified...no matter what....There are no regilious taboo concerning infidels...god, i hope somethese morons get what i'm trying to say... Quoting: picesnator
Another one that never read the bible! Jeeesz |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 505615
12/28/2008 10:12 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Why am I being taxed against my will and having the fruit of my labor being spent on weapons of war for another sovereign nation?
still waiting for someone to answer this.
I am beginning to see that there is no good reason for this.
Of all the nations this question could be answered with
which is the one that so inspires your ire?
The discussion is surrounding Israel, but my question could be directed at many many nations.
The question still hasn't been answered.
Why is my government taking my life force and giving it away?
Why?
Is it love?
Is it greed?
Is it empire?
Is it business?
Is it security?
Is it influence?
Is it evil? Quoting: Freethinker
Why?...cause they got all the guns and the dumb useless eaters to use them against you?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 581518
12/28/2008 10:29 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Too bad so many are still so full of hate towards Israel and its chosen people...... Nothing will ever open their eyes to the truth!
i'll never understand the hate...toward israel/jews....and i'm christian and yet...i stand in solidarity with Israel..lets face guys, if u ain't muslim, u are an infidel..they can KILL you...they can have their way with u [RAPE] and mohammed will be happy...anything goes, all things are justified...no matter what....There are no regilious taboo concerning infidels...god, i hope somethese morons get what i'm trying to say... Quoting: picesnator
Dude... You obviously didn't read the story following the Arab side of the story...
You are saying the exact things the Media (Jew owned) says.
Don't be a fool.. you are embarassing your Christian friends.
Please, READ ABOUT IT, or SHUT THE FUCK UP.
DO NOT TALK ON SUBJECTS YOU DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND.
GO READ NOW! |
| Only Me
Strawberry Girl
User ID: 485074
12/28/2008 11:00 PM
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An assignment to each poster who has accused SHR of using selective writing:
Each of you write your own essay with your own arguements to compare to the information with what he has said.
Many of us would love to see just what you think it is that is so important that he left out...just mention all items he "overlooked" that would disprove his writing.
Any of you up to the challenge or are you really just a bunch of morons who will say anything just to be a stupid voice of dissent?
C'mon...ante up guys!
So now I know what I have to do. I have to keep breathing. And tomorrow the sun will rise, and who knows what the tide will bring in.
"Yes I will, dammit!" - Drakensang |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 522093
12/28/2008 11:15 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Fuck israel
Stupid phagg |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 581609
12/28/2008 11:34 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Israel is where it is today because that's where the holy land, land of the Jews whatever the fuck anyone wants to call it. Quoting: SHR
Quite profound. Pin this! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 579898
12/28/2008 11:44 PM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
palestine was once a part of the ottoman empire, it was peaceful land with a jewish community date from biblical times, the jews were even massacred in jerusalem by the crusaders [link to en.wikipedia.org]
well time passed and the zionist jews came and bought land and owned farms in israel they got along well with their arab neighbors, then world war I happened and palestine came under british rule, then in 1917 arthur balfour sent a letter to lord rothschild saying that the british government will help the jews establish a state in palestine. the true motive was a British controlled colony in the middle east for the purpose of subjugating the arab populations, using zionism as an excuse. strangley the balfour declaration was made in 1917, and it wasn't until 1918 the ottomans lost control [link to en.wikipedia.org]
then jewish immigrants started pouring in and with the came the founders of the terrorist organization The Irgun, who went around etnically cleansing arabs in streets and markets here is a list
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
you can see why the arabs started opposing jews in palestine, well tensions rose and the jews started taking land displacing populations. well the U.N came in and decided to partition the land and Israel declared independance, well the Arabs weren't going to have it and declared war on Israel. many people wouldn't want you to believe israel was tiny and outnumbered but in truth they started with 29,000 troops and ended with 115,000 troop, while the total arab forces started with less than 50,000 and ended with 50,000 and arabs were having to cross the judean hills and the west bank.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
to reach the Israeli forces. and since this was a defensive war on the Israeli side with natural land barriers and had western support they won the war. later time passed and they took jerusalem and have never given it back. most of the land the palestinians got is desert and hill while the israelis recieved most of the lowlands and valleys. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 579898
12/28/2008 11:45 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 490435
12/29/2008 12:13 AM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
How did the thread carry on as long as this?
Poor America. Hijacked by foreign nationals...pardon me, dual-citizens...
So much public money, so many deluded Xtians, so much media indoctrination to tell Americans they have to fight for Israhell. All those billions of dollars for what?
More fighting and more 'terra' for the war-mongers to feed more fighting and more 'terra'.
Damn, I hope America can unhitch their wagon from this losing star.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 581518
12/29/2008 12:15 AM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
An assignment to each poster who has accused SHR of using selective writing:
Each of you write your own essay with your own arguements to compare to the information with what he has said.
Many of us would love to see just what you think it is that is so important that he left out...just mention all items he "overlooked" that would disprove his writing.
Any of you up to the challenge or are you really just a bunch of morons who will say anything just to be a stupid voice of dissent?
C'mon...ante up guys! Quoting: Only Me
Already did that, a great writer wrote an article, I posted the link right here, look above you. |
| Videobarbs
User ID: 452711
12/29/2008 12:24 AM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Thanks SHR, good stuff. I learned alot, though I knew that WWI was a pivotal time around the world. Notice how Great Britain/England is right in the mix early on.
My limited history of the 1948 formation of Israel is based on the book/movie "Exodus" by Leon Uris about how they threw out the English and thus began the shrinkage of their global rule. At one time "the sun never set" on the British Empire, not any more. They come off there as well as in India as snooty, class conscious folks. Watch or read "Jewel in the Crown" for the colonial world of the British in In-ja and how they wore out their welcome there as well. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 490435
12/29/2008 12:27 AM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
The Strawberry Girl
User ID: 485074
12/28/2008 11:00 PM
Uhmm. I hate to lay this on you, but Omega is not on this thread. Do your ballet-toes off to oblivion.
He's not here.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 490435
12/29/2008 12:34 AM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
Thanks SHR, good stuff. I learned alot ...
My limited history of the 1948 formation of Israel is based on the book/movie "Exodus" by Leon Uris Quoting: Videobarbs 452711
Well, that pretty much makes you an expert on International Relations by GLP standards.
You join all the other GLP expert historians like SHR and megaphones of expert history. Well done. Enter the tribe.
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| Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2008 12:36 AM | | Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language. | Quote |
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That's why.
Buy it, drive'm out, kill'em if they don't leave, it's money.
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Rothschild Rothschild Rothschild Rothschild Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225509
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| emerald_glow
User ID: 379016
12/29/2008 1:49 AM
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We have never learned Israel's history in high school. It is nothing to be ashamed of.
Yet, neither in Europe, nor here in the US no reference of zionism or Palestine or buying that land in world history textbooks.
This is why we are grateful for any info regarding this. So much, that we all forgot to ask SHR: link? What sources you have used to your essay? |
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