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The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 571286
12/30/2008 7:03 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Israel and their murderous occupation of the sovereign state of Palestine is the real reason for the continued bloodshed in the ME!

Imagine if tomorrow Mexican troops came to your house in your city and told you that you had 12 hours to pack your things and leave as your home was theirs now.

You would resist and resist and resist forever until all of your blood and honor was restored well that is exactly what the Palestinians are doing and the evil empires of Americ and Britain (which are the same empire) are supporting the Zionist bankers and their evil all under the lies and deceptions of religious doctrine and phony history.

Wake up sheeple!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430584
12/30/2008 7:55 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Israel and their murderous occupation of the sovereign state of Palestine is the real reason for the continued bloodshed in the ME!

Imagine if tomorrow Mexican troops came to your house in your city and told you that you had 12 hours to pack your things and leave as your home was theirs now.

You would resist and resist and resist forever until all of your blood and honor was restored well that is exactly what the Palestinians are doing and the evil empires of Americ and Britain (which are the same empire) are supporting the Zionist bankers and their evil all under the lies and deceptions of religious doctrine and phony history.

Wake up sheeple!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 571286



And that goes right to the heart of it.

Imagine if you will, that the rest of the planet decided, today: hey, let's give Ohio to such and such group.. let's say, to the chinese. Then the chinese tell everyone living in Ohio: "sorry buddy, you got to pack up what you can carry and go live in that small area over there near the new border to USA, cause like, we dont want your kind around our kind, right? So go away! And leave the crap you cant carry behind of course, we'll use it!"

Then they surrounded you with barbed wire and large walls, and made you go through armed checkpoints and the like to leave the small area that you are allowed to live in. That you are treated as a second class citizen, or even worse (our african american brothers will understand that feeling, no doubt).

Would you shrug and go on with your life, or at least as much as they let you do, knowing that at any time they can come around and bulldoze your new crappy home because they need more room to expand?

Or would you fight back?

Suddenly you become a terrorist, as far as the rest of the world is concerned, especially the big countries who hold the majority of world power. To you, you are just a home defense member of a militia, no doubt. Doesn't matter, you fought back, therefore the chinese will bomb the shit out of you and your people, busting up the little infrastructure and facilities you have, killing your children and neibhours..

Yeah, tell me you'll take it sitting down. Go ahead and lie.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 430584
12/30/2008 7:58 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

And then it occurred to me that.. in this instance at least.. the rest of the world is to blame for putting israel there in the first place. What a bunch of idiots with no foresight.

They should have put israel where texas is, or something.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 571286
12/30/2008 8:11 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Israel and their murderous occupation of the sovereign state of Palestine is the real reason for the continued bloodshed in the ME!

Imagine if tomorrow Mexican troops came to your house in your city and told you that you had 12 hours to pack your things and leave as your home was theirs now.

You would resist and resist and resist forever until all of your blood and honor was restored well that is exactly what the Palestinians are doing and the evil empires of Americ and Britain (which are the same empire) are supporting the Zionist bankers and their evil all under the lies and deceptions of religious doctrine and phony history.

Wake up sheeple!

Exactly! America, Britain and the Zionist Rothschilds were the ones behind the "idea" (that is all it ever was) of a state of Israel and instead of offering some of their own land they decided to kill the Palestinians for the last 60 fucking years and take it from them all the while spewing lies about freedom, democracy, religious bullshit and giving the zionists murderers 10-15 million dollars a day to kill anyone who disagrees with the powerful banking families and their special cult!

Just fucking sick and the stupid sheeple buy every fucking word of the myth that is sold to them because they are too drugged, entertained, ill, overworked, underpaid, or just generally mind controlled through media propaganda!


And that goes right to the heart of it.

Imagine if you will, that the rest of the planet decided, today: hey, let's give Ohio to such and such group.. let's say, to the chinese. Then the chinese tell everyone living in Ohio: "sorry buddy, you got to pack up what you can carry and go live in that small area over there near the new border to USA, cause like, we dont want your kind around our kind, right? So go away! And leave the crap you cant carry behind of course, we'll use it!"

Then they surrounded you with barbed wire and large walls, and made you go through armed checkpoints and the like to leave the small area that you are allowed to live in. That you are treated as a second class citizen, or even worse (our african american brothers will understand that feeling, no doubt).

Would you shrug and go on with your life, or at least as much as they let you do, knowing that at any time they can come around and bulldoze your new crappy home because they need more room to expand?

Or would you fight back?

Suddenly you become a terrorist, as far as the rest of the world is concerned, especially the big countries who hold the majority of world power. To you, you are just a home defense member of a militia, no doubt. Doesn't matter, you fought back, therefore the chinese will bomb the shit out of you and your people, busting up the little infrastructure and facilities you have, killing your children and neibhours..

Yeah, tell me you'll take it sitting down. Go ahead and lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430584
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 571286
12/30/2008 8:13 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

FREE PALESTINE!
Resist the evil zionist elites who murder and forged lies about their cult of specialness!

NO STATE of ISRAEL!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 528223
12/30/2008 10:02 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A STATE OF PALESTINE.

IF THE JEWS EVICTED ALL OF THE ARABS FROM ISRAEL WHY IS THERE A 20% ARAB MINORITY IN ISRAEL?!

THE PALESTINIAN ARABS ARE A BUNCH OF TROUBLEMAKERS AND NO OTHER ARAB STATE WANTS THEM.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 579166
12/31/2008 12:18 AM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

I think its mighty interesting that GLP pinned this side of the story and ignored the other, well written story from the other point of view.

Run by the mossad? haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430584


That's what I was thinking.
i is that which i is
User ID: 342515
12/31/2008 2:12 AM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Rick Martin of The Spectrum Magazine, July 10, 2001, with Eric Jon Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins :

I'm talking about the RACE. And when I'm speaking of the Jewish race, I'm speaking of the descendants of Jacob, through his 12 sons, and their physical descendants. That's what I mean when I speak of the Jews.

Many, many Orthodoxes today believe there is no such thing as the Jewish race. They are in error about that, because in Romans IX, X, & XI, it speaks specifically about the Jewish race, that Christ was a Jew; that Christ spoke in John, Chapter IV, we know whom we worship for salvation is of the Jews.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 551914


hi Hi AC,

Where do so many people get the idea that the Hebrews are a "Race"? The ones who originated in Canaan are only one branch of the Semites who are ancient and modern people from the that area. DNA testing has shown that Hebrew and Arab DNA was virtually indistinguishable in all the important markers. Are the Japanese a "race", or the Navajo, the Fijians, the Spanish, the Greeks?

"Nationality", yes partly. But mostly, Jewishness is a "Religion" which includes many from every race and nationality who have embraced the religion or married into it. However, many of the Hebrew nationality no longer accept the Jewish religion.

Also with the propensity of the male to spread their seed especially as sailors and marauding armies, by now in 3500 years, every person on earth could be called children of Abraham, especially since Abraham had eight sons.
"I am not afraid to stand alone, but it's always more fun if I have friends standing with me." Lena Coleon.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 342515
12/31/2008 3:06 AM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

hi Hi,

One other thing concerning the Hebrew NATIONALITY, according to the Talmud, Abraham and Sarah came from Ur of the Chaldees, now IRAQ. Isaac obtained a bride, Rebekah, the sister of Laban the SyrianGen 28;5. Jacob later went back to Ur and married Laban two daughters plus their two handmaidens.

Jacob had twelve sons, who up to this point would all be of Chaldean stock, however, there is no indication anywhere in Genesis that the 12 sons married anyone outside of Canaan except for Joseph who married Poti-pherah's daughter in Egypt.

Then when Joseph left Canaan for Egypt, with his sons and their families were 70 people Gen 46:27 but when they left Egypt 430 years later taking with them a mixed multitude of Egyptians totaling six hundred thousand. Gen 12:37,38

So, I ask you, what nationality are the descendants of these people who now call themselves "the children of Abraham"?
i is that which i is
User ID: 342515
12/31/2008 3:08 AM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

hi
Sorry about the AC time out on above.
"I am not afraid to stand alone, but it's always more fun if I have friends standing with me." Lena Coleon.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 551914
12/31/2008 6:20 AM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Rick Martin of The Spectrum Magazine, July 10, 2001, with Eric Jon Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins :

I'm talking about the RACE. And when I'm speaking of the Jewish race, I'm speaking of the descendants of Jacob, through his 12 sons, and their physical descendants. That's what I mean when I speak of the Jews.

Many, many Orthodoxes today believe there is no such thing as the Jewish race. They are in error about that, because in Romans IX, X, & XI, it speaks specifically about the Jewish race, that Christ was a Jew; that Christ spoke in John, Chapter IV, we know whom we worship for salvation is of the Jews.
-----------

hi Hi AC,

Where do so many people get the idea that the Hebrews are a "Race"? The ones who originated in Canaan are only one branch of the Semites who are ancient and modern people from the that area. DNA testing has shown that Hebrew and Arab DNA was virtually indistinguishable in all the important markers. Are the Japanese a "race", or the Navajo, the Fijians, the Spanish, the Greeks?

"Nationality", yes partly. But mostly, Jewishness is a "Religion" which includes many from every race and nationality who have embraced the religion or married into it. However, many of the Hebrew nationality no longer accept the Jewish religion.

Also with the propensity of the male to spread their seed especially as sailors and marauding armies, by now in 3500 years, every person on earth could be called children of Abraham, especially since Abraham had eight sons.
 Quoting: i is that which i is
You're confusing a couple of things. Let me quote two articles to make you understand that The Ashkenazi, The Khazars, are not Jews by race, but the Sephardim are.

The Israeli tribes were called Scyths by the Greeks.

[link to www.amazon.com]

Genetic Studies Prove Arthur Koestler Correct: True Hebrews/Palestinians Are The SAME race

By Photobug

Recent genetic studies have shown Koestler was correct. Genetic studies are continuing to prove conclusively that the Ashkenazi (common European/Western Jew) have no genetic connection with the semitic peoples of the middle east. In fact, the middle eastern Hebrews and the Palestinians are the SAME genetic race -- which is NOT related to the Ashkenazi Jews, who never occupied the middle east. Genetic studies also are proving that Ashkenazi Jews (Khazars) are not a semitic race.

Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians
[link to www.guardian.co.uk]

Excerpts:
"In common with earlier studies, the team found no data to support the
idea that Jewish people were genetically distinct from other people in
the region.(middle east) In doing so, the team's research challenges
claims that Jews are a special, chosen people and that Judaism can only be inherited."

"Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene
pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically
separate, the authors state. Rivalry between the two races is
therefore based 'in cultural and religious, but not in genetic
differences', they conclude."

------


[link to www.guardian.co.uk]

Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians

Robin McKie, science editor

guardian.co.uk, Sunday 25 November 2001 11.24 GMT

A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are genetically almost identical has been pulled from a leading journal.
Academics who have already received copies of Human Immunology have been urged to rip out the offending pages and throw them away.

Such a drastic act of self-censorship is unprecedented in research publishing and has created widespread disquiet, generating fears that it may involve the suppression of scientific work that questions Biblical dogma.

'I have authored several hundred scientific papers, some for Nature and Science, and this has never happened to me before,' said the article's lead author, Spanish geneticist Professor Antonio Arnaiz-Villena, of Complutense University in Madrid. 'I am stunned.'

British geneticist Sir Walter Bodmer added: 'If the journal didn't like the paper, they shouldn't have published it in the first place. Why wait until it has appeared before acting like this?'

The journal's editor, Nicole Sucio-Foca, of Columbia University, New York, claims the article provoked such a welter of complaints over its extreme political writing that she was forced to repudiate it. The article has been removed from Human Immunology's website, while letters have been written to libraries and universities throughout the world asking them to ignore or 'preferably to physically remove the relevant pages'. Arnaiz-Villena has been sacked from the journal's editorial board.

Dolly Tyan, president of the American Society of Histocompatibility and Immunogenetics, which runs the journal, told subscribers that the society is 'offended and embarrassed'.

The paper, 'The Origin of Palestinians and their Genetic Relatedness with other Mediterranean Populations', involved studying genetic variations in immune system genes among people in the Middle East.

In common with earlier studies, the team found no data to support the idea that Jewish people were genetically distinct from other people in the region. In doing so, the team's research challenges claims that Jews are a special, chosen people and that Judaism can only be inherited.

Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate, the authors state. Rivalry between the two races is therefore based 'in cultural and religious, but not in genetic differences', they conclude.

But the journal, having accepted the paper earlier this year, now claims the article was politically biased and was written using 'inappropriate' remarks about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Its editor told the journal Nature last week that she was threatened by mass resignations from members if she did not retract the article.

Arnaiz-Villena says he has not seen a single one of the accusations made against him, despite being promised the opportunity to look at the letters sent to the journal.

He accepts he used terms in the article that laid him open to criticism. There is one reference to Jewish 'colonists' living in the Gaza strip, and another that refers to Palestinian people living in 'concentration' camps.

'Perhaps I should have used the words settlers instead of colonists, but really, what is the difference?' he said.

'And clearly, I should have said refugee, not concentration, camps, but given that I was referring to settlements outside of Israel - in Syria and Lebanon - that scarcely makes me anti-Jewish. References to the history of the region, the ones that are supposed to be politically offensive, were taken from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and other text books.'

In the wake of the journal's actions, and claims of mass protests about the article, several scientists have now written to the society to support Arnaiz-Villena and to protest about their heavy-handedness.

One of them said: 'If Arnaiz-Villena had found evidence that Jewish people were genetically very special, instead of ordinary, you can be sure no one would have objected to the phrases he used in his article. This is a very sad business.'
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