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The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.

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illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
12/27/2008 6:04 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Lt. Commander Walter H. Jacobsen writes in Naval Law Review: “To speculate on the motives of an attack group that uses unmarked planes and deprives helpless survivors of life rafts raises disturbing possibilities, including the one that the Liberty crew was not meant to survive the attack...”

But, hey, as long as it's the Zio-Nazi terrorists, it's OK!!!!


People like you make me SICK. You are a traitor to this nation and its people.

What justification do you have for the Zio-Nazi's who killed 3,000 on 9/11?

It's the Zionists, and they were protecting themselves, so it's ok....I bet is your psychotic answer........


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"American leaders did not have the courage to punish Israel for the blatant murder of its citizens."
--George Ball, U.S. Undersecretary of State at the time


"I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation.... Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."
--former U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk


"Is there any criminal act that Israel can do without being protected from criticism from the United States? If there is I haven't seen it. And I haven't seen it from the Bush Administration or from the Clinton Administration or from any administration before them. But when you consider the influence of Israel's lobby and its political action committees and the more than $41 million they've given to Congress and the White House, is it any wonder Israel is shielded from any shame?"
--U.S. Brigadier General James J. David (Ret.)


"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."
--Senator James William Fulbright, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (speaking on the CBS News program Face the Nation, October 7, 1973)


"Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain."
--John F. Kennedy School of Government, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy


"The Israeli puppeteer travels to Washington. The Israeli puppeteer meets with the puppet in the White House; and then moves down Pennsylvania Avenue and meets with the puppets in Congress; and then takes back billions of taxpayer dollars."
--Ralph Nader (speaking on the cable network C-Span about the Israeli lobby (AIPAC), June 30, 2004)


"I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."
--Admiral Thomas Moorer, former chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff (quoted in: They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby by Paul Findley, former Illinois congressman)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543159
12/27/2008 6:05 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

And of course, the sick part of the whole mess is that they all believe in the samn freakin' god...
 Quoting: falldown

Total misunderstanding of the reality.

They believe opposites.

The god of the Koran is not the God of The Bible.

No way. No how.
Freethinker
User ID: 579593
12/27/2008 6:06 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Why am I being taxed against my will and having the fruit of my labor being spent on weapons of war for another sovereign nation?
and it does no harm to the beauty of the sunset to understand the mysteries of the sun
Freethinker
User ID: 579593
12/27/2008 6:07 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

And of course, the sick part of the whole mess is that they all believe in the samn freakin' god...

Total misunderstanding of the reality.

They believe opposites.

The god of the Koran is not the God of The Bible.

No way. No how.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159


you sound mighty sure of yourself.
and it does no harm to the beauty of the sunset to understand the mysteries of the sun
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543159
12/27/2008 6:07 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

illegalsmile,
instant psychotic rage often?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 580773
12/27/2008 6:08 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Its high time this is taken to an independent international court of law.
Its high time UN troops are put on the ground in Israel to stop this bloodshed.
No country or people should be above the law.


Only if the law is a just law in the eyes of the individuals subject to it.

Any other law, especially those commanding and demanding consignments of labor or production are unjust and must be opposed.

You can't compel by force. Anything that is compelled immediately loses its virtuous nature.
 Quoting: Freethinker


What are you talking about. Babbling nonsense.

International Law was approved by nations and is applied to countries. If you do not recognize it then you do not form part of the international community and international and diplomatic relations should cease independent of sanctions and other legal measures the interantional bodies should adopt against any nation that causes international turmoil by breach of international law creating a dangerous precedent that could cause future international unrest and poses a risk to international peace and stability.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543159
12/27/2008 6:08 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

And of course, the sick part of the whole mess is that they all believe in the samn freakin' god...

Total misunderstanding of the reality.

They believe opposites.

The god of the Koran is not the God of The Bible.

No way. No how.


you sound mighty sure of yourself.
 Quoting: Freethinker

The god of the Koran is not the God of The Bible.
illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
12/27/2008 6:10 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

illegalsmile,
instant psychotic rage often?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159



Yes, facts are now "confused" as rage. If that is rage...........

Give me a break.

You must be another Zio-Nazi apologist. This place is overrun with them, like cockroaches......

How much are you being paid these days? Or are you just another brainwashed idiot?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 580732
12/27/2008 6:10 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Are you willfully lying or just ignorant of the facts?

I have no particular interest in the situation, actually. I'm not a big fan of people only latching onto a portion of the facts and ignoring everything else. I feel for some of the Palestinians, and for some of the Israelis.

I don't like many of the hardcore, psychotic zionists, nor their palestinian/arab counterparts. If I had my way, we'd round up all the warmongers and toss them into the saltwater extraction systems on Israel's shoreline, and get somethign useful out of them.

The people I feel the most sympathy for, however, are those folks in areas outside the major cities and battlegrounds, who are arab, palestinian, and israeli, who are trying to live together peacefully, and each year outside forces stress and strain their relationships.

And of course, the sick part of the whole mess is that they all believe in the samn freakin' god...
 Quoting: falldown


Then you shouldn't be too supportive of SHR piece.
jarha Subscriber
User ID: 366763
12/27/2008 6:11 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

All you folks who support the ZIO-NAZIS should move over there to Israhell, post haste.
 Quoting: illegalsmile 446109

SAME FOR YOU!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543159
12/27/2008 6:11 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

illegalsmile,
instant psychotic rage often?



Yes, facts are now "confused" as rage. If that is rage...........

Give me a break.

You must be another Zio-Nazi apologist. This place is overrun with them, like cockroaches......

How much are you being paid these days? Or are you just another brainwashed idiot?
 Quoting: illegalsmile 446109

Of course, legitimate disagreement cannot be tolerated.

I must be an apologist, a shill, or stupid... of course.

You have chosen your side correctly.
Freethinker
User ID: 579593
12/27/2008 6:12 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Its high time this is taken to an independent international court of law.
Its high time UN troops are put on the ground in Israel to stop this bloodshed.
No country or people should be above the law.


Only if the law is a just law in the eyes of the individuals subject to it.

Any other law, especially those commanding and demanding consignments of labor or production are unjust and must be opposed.

You can't compel by force. Anything that is compelled immediately loses its virtuous nature.


What are you talking about. Babbling nonsense.

International Law was approved by nations and is applied to countries. If you do not recognize it then you do not form part of the international community and international and diplomatic relations should cease independent of sanctions and other legal measures the interantional bodies should adopt against any nation that causes international turmoil by breach of international law creating a dangerous precedent that could cause future international unrest and poses a risk to international peace and stability.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 580773



May I just suggest politely that I really don't give a flying fuck about international anything? Would it be possible for you to consider the fact that I am an individual committed to living a local, happy life without the machinations of evil, unsustainable growth engines interferring with my path? Can you handle such a concept?

I am not trying to be rude, but you seem to have the opinion that your view of society is the only viable path. And you are wrong in that assumption.
and it does no harm to the beauty of the sunset to understand the mysteries of the sun
illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
12/27/2008 6:13 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

All you folks who support the ZIO-NAZIS should move over there to Israhell, post haste.

SAME FOR YOU!
AND DON'T FORGET TO TAKE YOUR LIMUSINE WITH YOU!


:camel1:
 Quoting: jarha



Wanna share a CIA/Mossad sponsored torture jet over?

I guess that Israhell's God doesn't love them too much, otherwise they would have put the oil under thier feet for them, instead of Iran, Iraq...etc......

We need to kill all the Arabs, we need a pipeline to Haifa!
Freethinker
User ID: 579593
12/27/2008 6:14 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

And of course, the sick part of the whole mess is that they all believe in the samn freakin' god...

Total misunderstanding of the reality.

They believe opposites.

The god of the Koran is not the God of The Bible.

No way. No how.


you sound mighty sure of yourself.

The god of the Koran is not the God of The Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159


link or it didn't happen.

Are you a Jack Chick fan much?
and it does no harm to the beauty of the sunset to understand the mysteries of the sun
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357831
12/27/2008 6:14 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Coouldn't blame Russia if they came to Hamas aid.
Freethinker
User ID: 579593
12/27/2008 6:15 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Why am I being taxed against my will and having the fruit of my labor being spent on weapons of war for another sovereign nation?
 Quoting: Freethinker



still waiting for someone to answer this.

I am beginning to see that there is no good reason for this.
and it does no harm to the beauty of the sunset to understand the mysteries of the sun
illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
12/27/2008 6:15 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

illegalsmile,
instant psychotic rage often?



Yes, facts are now "confused" as rage. If that is rage...........

Give me a break.

You must be another Zio-Nazi apologist. This place is overrun with them, like cockroaches......

How much are you being paid these days? Or are you just another brainwashed idiot?

Of course, legitimate disagreement cannot be tolerated.

I must be an apologist, a shill, or stupid... of course.

You have chosen your side correctly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159




Legit agreement? More like a drive-by insult.

You side of the argument is nothing but insults. Debate it, if you feel I am wrong.

Anybody can post insults......especially mentally-stunted folks such as yourself......
illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
12/27/2008 6:16 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Why am I being taxed against my will and having the fruit of my labor being spent on weapons of war for another sovereign nation?



still waiting for someone to answer this.
 Quoting: Freethinker



You will get NO answer, you dirty, hating, Anti-Semite!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 580773
12/27/2008 6:16 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Its high time this is taken to an independent international court of law.
Its high time UN troops are put on the ground in Israel to stop this bloodshed.
No country or people should be above the law.


Only if the law is a just law in the eyes of the individuals subject to it.

Any other law, especially those commanding and demanding consignments of labor or production are unjust and must be opposed.

You can't compel by force. Anything that is compelled immediately loses its virtuous nature.


What are you talking about. Babbling nonsense.

International Law was approved by nations and is applied to countries. If you do not recognize it then you do not form part of the international community and international and diplomatic relations should cease independent of sanctions and other legal measures the interantional bodies should adopt against any nation that causes international turmoil by breach of international law creating a dangerous precedent that could cause future international unrest and poses a risk to international peace and stability.



May I just suggest politely that I really don't give a flying fuck about international anything? Would it be possible for you to consider the fact that I am an individual committed to living a local, happy life without the machinations of evil, unsustainable growth engines interferring with my path? Can you handle such a concept?

I am not trying to be rude, but you seem to have the opinion that your view of society is the only viable path. And you are wrong in that assumption.
 Quoting: Freethinker


Your happy because you are not in a situation or zone of conflict. If you were huddled in a basement without food or power praying a bomb doesnt land on your house I can assure you you would give a flying fuck that international law was applied to try and protect you and your family by being butchered through no fault of yours.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543159
12/27/2008 6:18 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Why am I being taxed against my will and having the fruit of my labor being spent on weapons of war for another sovereign nation?



still waiting for someone to answer this.

I am beginning to see that there is no good reason for this.
 Quoting: Freethinker

Of all the nations this question could be answered with
which is the one that so inspires your ire?
illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
12/27/2008 6:19 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Its high time this is taken to an independent international court of law.
Its high time UN troops are put on the ground in Israel to stop this bloodshed.
No country or people should be above the law.


Only if the law is a just law in the eyes of the individuals subject to it.

Any other law, especially those commanding and demanding consignments of labor or production are unjust and must be opposed.

You can't compel by force. Anything that is compelled immediately loses its virtuous nature.


What are you talking about. Babbling nonsense.

International Law was approved by nations and is applied to countries. If you do not recognize it then you do not form part of the international community and international and diplomatic relations should cease independent of sanctions and other legal measures the interantional bodies should adopt against any nation that causes international turmoil by breach of international law creating a dangerous precedent that could cause future international unrest and poses a risk to international peace and stability.



May I just suggest politely that I really don't give a flying fuck about international anything? Would it be possible for you to consider the fact that I am an individual committed to living a local, happy life without the machinations of evil, unsustainable growth engines interferring with my path? Can you handle such a concept?

I am not trying to be rude, but you seem to have the opinion that your view of society is the only viable path. And you are wrong in that assumption.


Your happy because you are not in a situation or zone of conflict. If you were huddled in a basement without food or power praying a bomb doesnt land on your house I can assure you you would give a flying fuck that international law was applied to try and protect you and your family by being butchered through no fault of yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 580773


They will support the terrorist state of Israhell until they bring what they are doing to the Palestinians here to the US.

They will object then, but it will be too late! Off to the FEMA camp you go........
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543159
12/27/2008 6:20 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

You side of the argument is nothing but insults. Debate it, if you feel I am wrong.

Anybody can post insults......especially mentally-stunted folks such as yourself......
 Quoting: illegalsmile 446109

Such as?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 436942
12/27/2008 6:20 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

SHR strikes again! nice post
Freethinker
User ID: 579593
12/27/2008 6:21 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Why am I being taxed against my will and having the fruit of my labor being spent on weapons of war for another sovereign nation?



still waiting for someone to answer this.



You will get NO answer, you dirty, hating, Anti-Semite!
 Quoting: illegalsmile 446109


lol...

I am not looking for religious or race reasons. I know what those are.

I want to know why my nation takes from me to give to them.
and it does no harm to the beauty of the sunset to understand the mysteries of the sun
illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
12/27/2008 6:22 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

You side of the argument is nothing but insults. Debate it, if you feel I am wrong.

Anybody can post insults......especially mentally-stunted folks such as yourself......

Such as?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159


Debate it. Do you have anything to bolster your argument, besides little children's insult games?

Didn't think so. If you have some evidence to the contrary that shows Israhell isn't a bunch of psychopathic war-mongers, by all means, provide it.
illegalsmile
User ID: 446109
12/27/2008 6:23 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Why am I being taxed against my will and having the fruit of my labor being spent on weapons of war for another sovereign nation?



still waiting for someone to answer this.

I am beginning to see that there is no good reason for this.

Of all the nations this question could be answered with
which is the one that so inspires your ire?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159



How many countries want a direct oil pipeline to Haifa?

Just asking.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 580813
12/27/2008 6:24 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Looks like you left 'em speechless.

yes, look like that.
 Quoting: ~GAIA~


Yeah, in that whole 12 minutes since the post everyone is speechless. Geez!!!
Freethinker
User ID: 579593
12/27/2008 6:27 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

Its high time this is taken to an independent international court of law.
Its high time UN troops are put on the ground in Israel to stop this bloodshed.
No country or people should be above the law.


Only if the law is a just law in the eyes of the individuals subject to it.

Any other law, especially those commanding and demanding consignments of labor or production are unjust and must be opposed.

You can't compel by force. Anything that is compelled immediately loses its virtuous nature.


What are you talking about. Babbling nonsense.

International Law was approved by nations and is applied to countries. If you do not recognize it then you do not form part of the international community and international and diplomatic relations should cease independent of sanctions and other legal measures the interantional bodies should adopt against any nation that causes international turmoil by breach of international law creating a dangerous precedent that could cause future international unrest and poses a risk to international peace and stability.



May I just suggest politely that I really don't give a flying fuck about international anything? Would it be possible for you to consider the fact that I am an individual committed to living a local, happy life without the machinations of evil, unsustainable growth engines interferring with my path? Can you handle such a concept?

I am not trying to be rude, but you seem to have the opinion that your view of society is the only viable path. And you are wrong in that assumption.


Your happy because you are not in a situation or zone of conflict. If you were huddled in a basement without food or power praying a bomb doesnt land on your house I can assure you you would give a flying fuck that international law was applied to try and protect you and your family by being butchered through no fault of yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 580773



what do you think is fueling this conflicts?

Religion. Hate. Intolerance. Greed. Disrespect. Closedmindedness. Territoriality. Jealousy. Rage.

Those are my enemies, and they should be your enemies too.


Christ knew that if our species were to make it, we'd have to fight those battles with out own spirits. He used the jewish holy book to frame his parables, because he knew he was teaching a primitive, tribal people with no scientific knowledge.

His message has been corrupted by church and religion.
and it does no harm to the beauty of the sunset to understand the mysteries of the sun
falldown
User ID: 520470
12/27/2008 6:28 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

And of course, the sick part of the whole mess is that they all believe in the samn freakin' god...

Total misunderstanding of the reality.

They believe opposites.

The god of the Koran is not the God of The Bible.

No way. No how.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159

They believe there is one god, only one god. One of Muhammad's wives was Jewish. Muhammed tried to get Jews to accept the Quran as part of their vast literature. The Quran itself says that Jews are to be respected.

Where's the opposite? Because some Jewish and Muslim leaders say so and teach hate and violence?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543159
12/27/2008 6:29 PM
Re: The History of Israel and Palestine in easy to understand, colorful language.Quote

So you think you are the special edition genius who figured out and decides arbitrarily where truth and myth lies?
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