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Author Says Mormons Believe Two Apostles of Jesus Were Gay

 
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Author Says Mormons Believe Two Apostles of Jesus Were Gay
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published November 08, 2008
Almost 100 years ago, LDS Church founder and Mormon Prophet Joseph Smith claimed to have translated and published an ancient American record known as the Book of Mormon. Mormon's believe the manuscript is a second Testament of Christ. "This book is the cornerstone of the modern Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the same religious group that privately organized its membership in support of California Proposition 8," states Christopher a former devout member of the LDS Church.

According to Mormon belief Joseph Smith claimed that two-thirds (2/3) of the record written upon gold plates was sealed and could not be translated when the original book was published in 1830. In 1987, Christopher who was then employed as a Security Officer at the Salt Lake City Church headquarters, claimed to have received instructions to translate and publish the sealed portion of the ancient record. The record was translated and first published in 2004 as The Sealed Portion—The Final Testament of Jesus Christ. ( [link to thesealedportion.com)] Christopher states, "The book gives direct insight into the life of Jesus and his disciples, two of which were openly gay." Christopher has written an expose on the homosexual relationship between two of the original apostles of Jesus using other New Testament scripture and insight to back up the claim.

Though the LDS Church leadership has rejected the claim that the sealed portion of the Book of Mormon has been translated, it has taken forceful steps to denounce the work and demean the character of the translator. In spite of the LDS Church´s rejection of the work, many devout LDS members who have read the translation of the sealed portion have accepted it and left mainstream Mormonism. These people baptized as Mormons believe that two Apostles of Jesus were gay.

The document can be read here:

[link to thesealedportion.com]
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nobody fucking cares.
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If you would like to know more about the Mormons from a bibical point of view, The Visitors...

[link to www.chick.com]
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nobody fucking cares.
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LOL...and you are speaking for who besides yourself?
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And if you would like to know a bit more about that other lot who come knocking on your door, the JW's. The Crisis...

[link to www.chick.com]
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the mor(m)ons are just hoping they were gay
this would fit nicely into their programs of sexual perversions

when the jews all move to utah they will rename utah
jewmoron

america will contain this two headed beast
and the world will calm down
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did Jesus enjoy the gag ball?
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nobody fucking cares.


LOL...and you are speaking for who besides yourself?
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i'm a gay, ass fucking, alcoholic, crack smoking mormon ok. I don't want to be reminded of this. I've already shamed joseph smith and my 5 wives. I probably won't make it to Cola now. fucking fuck.
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Okay losers, is anybody going to actually post who the two are?

Personally I thing "John" is the same guy as James, but i bet the jew homos are going to accuse Paul. Jews always accuse Paul because he's the one that took the Gospel to Gentiles after the reptilian haemovores sacrificing Gentile blood to their 'god' Molech rejected it.
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And if you would like to know a bit more about that other lot who come knocking on your door, the JW's. The Crisis...

[link to www.chick.com]
 Quoting: 19.47™ 564956



Jack Chick is no different from the hate tracts that children receive in the Madrasahs of radical Islam.

They are teaching modules for hatred.

Both promote tyrannical beliefs that they feel must be forced upon people.
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581289,

And here is another one for you, this time it's about the Roman Catholics. Last Rites...

[link to www.chick.com]

Sorry to hear that you don't like the truth.
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Okay losers, is anybody going to actually post who the two are?

Personally I thing "John" is the same guy as James, but i bet the jew homos are going to accuse Paul. Jews always accuse Paul because he's the one that took the Gospel to Gentiles after the reptilian haemovores sacrificing Gentile blood to their 'god' Molech rejected it.
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If memory serves me correctly, it was Mark and Barnabas, the two the Paul refused to take with him on his journey. This is what the meeting that Jesus' disciples and Paul had. His disciples knew about this cause they were friends with Jesus.

I've read The Sealed Portion....It is wonderful.

The Mormons do not believe in 'gay' love. Haven't you seen what they did in California?

The Mormons have gone way off base, as The Sealed Portion says.

[link to thesealedportion.com]
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And if you would like to know a bit more about that other lot who come knocking on your door, the JW's. The Crisis...

[link to www.chick.com]



Jack Chick is no different from the hate tracts that children receive in the Madrasahs of radical Islam.

They are teaching modules for hatred.

Both promote tyrannical beliefs that they feel must be forced upon people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 581289



Radical Islam and Protestantism are the only two religious denominations on the planet that promote hatred towards other belief systems that are not their own.

Only these two act this way in the entire world.

Radical Islam and Protestantism.

Both of them chipped off of mainstream religions.

Both became quickly became political movements.

Both immediately demonized their predecessors and actively fostered hatred against them.

Both of them persecuted people in their own denomination; Protestants persecuted Protestants, Muslims persecuted Muslims.

Both of them are obsessed with condemning all world religions that are not their own.

Both of them were founded on negative principles.

Both of them were historically seen as heresies.

Both of them turn their children against other religions.

Both of them ignore the history of their mainstream religion prior to the invention of their own belief system.

Both of them are obsessed with the endtimes.
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Joseph Smith said: "I have 7 wives and 52 children."

She said: "You ought to be hung."

Smith: "I am!"



And remember the words of the prophet: "if you gotta brighham--brighham young."
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IT"S NOT JUST THE MORMONS who know this. It's historical fact - however the Catholics had a problem with it during the counsel of Nicea and decided to edit out the truth about this as well as other things they didn't like.

Oh well.

Yes, two at least, and possibly more, of his disciples were gay. We know two were lovers and devoted to each other their whole life long.

History will come out. Eventually.
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It's probably a misunderstanding of something about the "two men holding hands", the constellation of gemini. "one" of the 12 disc-iples of the sun, of God.

The "two men holding hands" could also be described as "a man with a man", and they have already been described as "the two male messengers who came down from heaven".

hiding
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Well, go figure!

Jesus's deciples were all MEN!

80% of never married men over 30 are GAY!

Duh, what a shock!
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It's probably a misunderstanding of something about the "two men holding hands", the constellation of gemini. "one" of the 12 disc-iples of the sun, of God.

The "two men holding hands" could also be described as "a man with a man", and they have already been described as "the two male messengers who came down from heaven".

hiding
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Gemini signifies twins, as in brothers, not as in two faggots.
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LDS followers need to try some LSD
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That's what you get if you're a secretive organisation.

People make up stuff to fill in the blanks.
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Jack Chick is no different from the hate tracts that children receive in the Madrasahs of radical Islam.

They are teaching modules for hatred.

Both promote tyrannical beliefs that they feel must be forced upon people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 581289


Well, I may take a beating for this one, but personally, I used to pity homosexual people.

No. Actually, I was a bigot who was full of prejudice and bias against anyone who was not like me. I truly believed that gay people were “sinning” and that they needed to change their ways in order to be accepted by “God” and return to his presence. How arrogant I was! How prideful and full of hypocrisy, and I didn’t even know it.

Just 3 short years ago I was a full-tithe paying, active (very active) lifetime LDS member. I am the mother of 8 children and had my youngest blessed in the LDS church in January of 2006. I believed that the LDS church was true with all of my heart—that it was the only true church upon the earth and that I would live and die a lifetime member. I doubt there were many Mormons as “faithful” as my husband and I were. We are not radical or fanatical, but our views have now taken a 180˚ turn.

As I read the news and watched the events going on in California surrounding Proposition 8, my heart was disappointed—saddened by the prejudice and bigotry I saw towards those of my brothers and sisters of the gay and lesbian community. I watch in disbelief, knowing that I would have been right there cheering the passage of Prop 8, and most likely donating any money I could spare to the cause, and “praying” daily for “God’s will” to overcome the terrible sin of same-sex marriage.

I would have never imagined how I feel today about the issue. Today I understand I was wrong. Today I see reality. Today I am sickened by those of the LDS Church who insist on persecuting other human beings in any way, shape, or form. And the problem is, they don’t even see it, just as I didn’t. They do no see that “Mormons are Unfair & Wrong.”

So what changed my opinion? What turned a faithful Mormon full of disgust and hypocrisy to an individual awash with love and acceptance? One word, well, three actually: The Sealed Portion. Mormons believe that Joseph Smith translated 1/3 of the gold plates of Mormon into the Book of Mormon and that the other 2/3 were sealed, and remain to come forth. What most don’t know is that The Sealed Portion has now been translated, and that it speaks against the LDS church in every whit.

That book, reading those pages one-by-one, set one whose feet were cemented firmly in the church—free. That would be me; I am now free. I understand that “Love is nothing but love,” and how to “Stop the Judgment,” to reiterate some of the posters at the protest outside of the Oakland Mormon Temple recently.

As the original thread states: The sealed portion of the book of Mormon explains the truth that two of Christ’s beloved disciples were homosexual. Not only did he not “condemn” them, but his teachings absolutely supported those who were homosexual in his day. Any homosexuals (especially those who are or were LDS) who would like to be free of the repression and persecution would do well to find out the following:

TSP 39:85, 87 And those of our brothers and sisters who desire to be with another brother or sister, who is of the same gender, are justified in this thing according to the flesh. …And if a man loveth another man, in which way doth he disobey the words of Christ? Did Christ not teach us that we should love one another? And why should we think that these men who desire to be with each other shall be condemned for that which they do, when we sin in becoming angry at them and persecuting them contrary to the words of Christ?

No longer am I bound in the chains of ignorance and bigotry. No longer will I justify my actions of prejudice and inequality towards homosexuals. I am free. And even though I did not know I was bound, I can honestly say, “Free at last, free at last. I thank God I’m free at last!”

[link to thesealedportion.com]
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It's not the Mormons that are saying this that two of Jesus' apostles were gay. It's the Sealed Portion, which has now been unsealed. The Mormons do not accept it because they say it has to come from their church.

Ha ha!!!!

Guess what...The Mormons are exactly like the Jews were in Jesus day. They didn't accept His message either because He spoke out against their church. The Sealed Portion speaks out strongly against the Church of the Latter Day Saints, even though Joseph Smith was a true profit. They have added, and changed what JS originally said, as humans usually do, to make it what they want it to mean.

I read it when it was first translated, and it has changed my life...Wonderful book!

Read it on line...free.

[link to thesealedportion.com]

PS...One way you can tell it's for real is because the translator does not profit in any way....The truth is always free.

It tells you so much more than the Bible does. Fascinating reading.

PPS...where in all of Jesus writings did Jesus say anything other than love your neighbor...and not to judge. Do you therefore think Jesus would have Judged gay people as sinning?
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I read once that Paul was gay
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Radical Islam and Protestantism are the only two religious denominations on the planet that promote hatred towards other belief systems that are not their own.

Only these two act this way in the entire world.

Radical Islam and Protestantism.

Both of them chipped off of mainstream religions.

Both became quickly became political movements.

Both immediately demonized their predecessors and actively fostered hatred against them.

Both of them persecuted people in their own denomination; Protestants persecuted Protestants, Muslims persecuted Muslims.

Both of them are obsessed with condemning all world religions that are not their own.

Both of them were founded on negative principles.

Both of them were historically seen as heresies.

Both of them turn their children against other religions.

Both of them ignore the history of their mainstream religion prior to the invention of their own belief system.

Both of them are obsessed with the endtimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499515



You will absolutely LOVE The Sealed Portion. It denounces religion.

Read it yourself. It's great! The truth will set you free.
The only thing is preaches is Jesus' message of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

[link to thesealedportion.com]
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I read once that Paul was gay
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No, Paul wasn't gay. He preached against gays. He hated them. Mark and Barnabas (the gay disciples of Jesus) were the two that were gay and that is the reason why Paul refused to take them with him on his journey. That is also the reason for the big council that Paul had with Jesus' disciples. Paul never knew Jesus, but the disciples did and they knew the truth, but Paul wouldn't listen.

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