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What makes Lucifer think he can win?

 
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What i dont get is Lucifer and his plan to rule the world. Well if the judjment does happen, wich it will, why are our elite trying to diminate the world. Do they really think they can escape gods wrath that everyone will be apart of? According to all the clues, the end times are neaar, big things are going to happen from 2009-2012. To me i think ww3 was just timed right to get everyone distracted from a bigger event, and i think it's the return of the jesus christ. So what makes the masons think they can escape hell and worship lucifer? What makes them think that all this effort to control the world is possible? What makes them think they'll be successfull? It's IMPOSSIBLE for lucifer to win, so what is he trying to do? My best bet is that he knows he'll lost the battle but in the meantime he's decepting the masses to have as many people as possible to join him in hell.
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What makes you think Lucifer is real? Why do you believe a 2000 year old book?
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freemasons and many others claim to rule the world ... do you know why ?
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What i dont get is Lucifer and his plan to rule the world. Well if the judjment does happen, wich it will, why are our elite trying to diminate the world. Do they really think they can escape gods wrath that everyone will be apart of? According to all the clues, the end times are neaar, big things are going to happen from 2009-2012. To me i think ww3 was just timed right to get everyone distracted from a bigger event, and i think it's the return of the jesus christ. So what makes the masons think they can escape hell and worship lucifer? What makes them think that all this effort to control the world is possible? What makes them think they'll be successfull? It's IMPOSSIBLE for lucifer to win, so what is he trying to do? My best bet is that he knows he'll lost the battle but in the meantime he's decepting the masses to have as many people as possible to join him in hell.
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What i dont get is Lucifer and his plan to rule the world. Well if the judjment does happen, wich it will, why are our elite trying to diminate the world. Do they really think they can escape gods wrath that everyone will be apart of? According to all the clues, the end times are neaar, big things are going to happen from 2009-2012. To me i think ww3 was just timed right to get everyone distracted from a bigger event, and i think it's the return of the jesus christ. So what makes the masons think they can escape hell and worship lucifer? What makes them think that all this effort to control the world is possible? What makes them think they'll be successfull? It's IMPOSSIBLE for lucifer to win, so what is he trying to do? My best bet is that he knows he'll lost the battle but in the meantime he's decepting the masses to have as many people as possible to join him in hell.
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they day Jesus resurrected is the day he lost all hope to convince the universe that his way was the best. He was the great accuser before all other living beings that Gods way is not the best. From that moment on his death was set in stone. all he is doing now is trying to cause others to fall away from God to hurt God the best way he knows how. His methods right now is to cause disbelief by laying low. As his end comes near he will grow more desperate and make an all out effort by trying to deceive the very elect but as his efforts grow so will Gods efforts to try to thwart his efforts.
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What makes you think Lucifer is real? Why do you believe a 2000 year old book?
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Your ignorance is great, but ignorance is somtimes bliss.

I lived an easier life without the knowledge of god, infact it was more injoyable. I beleive because once you read the words of the bible or koran, you start to notice it's purity. let me tell you if everyone followed the un currupted version of the bible, and it's lost books and what not, there will be peace on all the earth.

The reason why you disblelieve is because u say to urself well if theres a god then why does life suck? Why are there mistakes and suffering. This is becuase we are all mortals, and god gave us free will to do whatever, since he loved us so much. Lucifer came into mankinds exsistance and currupted us with sin. Now threw generations and generations most of the purity of god has been lost. Look at this sinful world it is. The worst parts of this world arnt the poor people and those wich die of hunger, for they are blessed, but the rich currupted minds wich control the worlds governments. For god is perfect, and thats all you need to know.
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maybe the prophecy is real but the roles are reversed. what if Lucifer is the good one, and the "God" of the bible is the evil one.

it seems Lucifer just wants to bring knowledge to humans, whereas god wants everyone to worship him and if you don't he will torture and kill you.
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What if she is Venus?
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Nothing-
He is consumed and totally taken over by his own sin which drives him-consumes him and leads him.HE IS CAPTIVE TO IT.
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What if she is Venus?
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she better be cuz uranus doesnt do it for me
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What if she is Venus?



she better be cuz uranus doesnt do it for me
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lol

I should hope not.
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maybe the prophecy is real but the roles are reversed. what if Lucifer is the good one, and the "God" of the bible is the evil one.

it seems Lucifer just wants to bring knowledge to humans, whereas god wants everyone to worship him and if you don't he will torture and kill you.
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Why do people think like that. So black and white. People actually think god thinks like humans? dont you realize the concept of GOD? Somthing that created the whole universe. Think for a moment how small you are. How USELESS everything is around you. How meaning less all the complex things on earth are. Imagine how life would be on a toatally different planet. everything will have a new definition to itself. God is perfect thats all you need to know.

athiest always say how they think god should be, and his mistakes. What they dont realize is what they say would make sense at all.
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It's IMPOSSIBLE for lucifer to win, so what is he trying to do? My best bet is that he knows he'll lost the battle but in the meantime he's decepting the masses to have as many people as possible to join him in hell.
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I think you are right, OP, that he knows he will lose the battle. "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." Revelation 12:12.

I just looked up an account of Satan's last moments of existence (still future of course) if you'd care to read it:

Satan seems paralyzed as he beholds the glory and majesty of Christ. He who was once a covering cherub remembers whence he has fallen. A shining seraph, "son of the morning;" how changed, how degraded! From the council where once he was honored, he is forever excluded. He sees another now standing near to the Father, veiling His glory. He has seen the crown placed upon the head of Christ by an angel of lofty stature and majestic presence, and he knows that the exalted position of this angel might have been his.

Memory recalls the home of his innocence and purity, the peace and content that were his until he indulged in murmuring against God, and envy of Christ. His accusations, his rebellion, his deceptions to gain the sympathy and support of the angels, his stubborn persistence in making no effort for self-recovery when God would have granted him forgiveness --all come vividly before him. He reviews his work among men and its results--the enmity of man toward his fellow man, the terrible destruction of life, the rise and fall of kingdoms, the overturning of thrones, the long succession of tumults, conflicts, and revolutions. He recalls his constant efforts to oppose the work of Christ and to sink man lower and lower. He sees that his hellish plots have been powerless to destroy those who have put their trust in Jesus. As Satan looks upon his kingdom, the fruit of his toil, he sees only failure and ruin. He has led the multitudes to believe that the City of God would be an easy prey; but he knows that this is false. Again and again, in the progress of the great controversy, he has been defeated and compelled to yield. He knows too well the power and majesty of the Eternal.

The aim of the great rebel has ever been to justify himself and to prove the divine government responsible for the rebellion. To this end he has bent all the power of his giant intellect. He has worked deliberately and systematically, and with marvelous success, leading vast multitudes to accept his version of the great controversy which has been so long in progress. For thousands of years this chief of conspiracy has palmed off falsehood for truth. But the time has now come when the rebellion is to be finally defeated and the history and character of Satan disclosed. In his last great effort to dethrone Christ, destroy His people, and take possession of the City of God, the archdeceiver has been fully unmasked. Those who have united with him see the total failure of his cause. Christ's followers and the loyal angels behold the full extent of his machinations against the government of God. He is the object of universal abhorrence.

Satan sees that his voluntary rebellion has unfitted him for heaven. He has trained his powers to war against God; the purity, peace, and harmony of heaven would be to him supreme torture. His accusations against the mercy and justice of God are now silenced. The reproach which he has endeavored to cast upon Jehovah rests wholly upon himself. And now Satan bows down and confesses the justice of his sentence.

"Who shall not fear Thee, O Lord, and glorify Thy name? for Thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before Thee; for Thy judgments are made manifest." Verse 4. Every question of truth and error in the long-standing controversy has now been made plain. The results of rebellion, the fruits of setting aside the divine statutes, have been laid open to the view of all created intelligences. The working out of Satan's rule in contrast with the government of God has been presented to the whole universe. Satan's own works have condemned him. God's wisdom, His justice, and His goodness stand fully vindicated. It is seen that all His dealings in the great controversy have been conducted with respect to the eternal good of His people and the good of all the worlds that He has created. "All Thy works shall praise Thee, O Lord; and Thy saints shall bless Thee." Psalm 145:10. The history of sin will stand to all eternity as a witness that with the existence of God's law is bound up the happiness of all the beings He has created. With all the facts of the great controversy in view, the whole universe, both loyal and rebellious, with one accord declare: "Just and true are Thy ways, Thou King of saints."

Before the universe has been clearly presented the great sacrifice made by the Father and the Son in man's behalf. The hour has come when Christ occupies His rightful position and is glorified above principalities and powers and every name that is named. It was for the joy that was set before Him--that He might bring many sons unto glory--that He endured the cross and despised the shame. And inconceivably great as was the sorrow and the shame, yet greater is the joy and the glory. He looks upon the redeemed, renewed in His own image, every heart bearing the perfect impress of the divine, every face reflecting the likeness of their King. He beholds in them the result of the travail of His soul, and He is satisfied. Then, in a voice that reaches the assembled multitudes of the righteous and the wicked, He declares: "Behold the purchase of My blood! For these I suffered, for these I died, that they might dwell in My presence throughout eternal ages." And the song of praise ascends from the white-robed ones about the throne: "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing." Revelation 5:12.

Notwithstanding that Satan has been constrained to acknowledge God's justice and to bow to the supremacy of Christ, his character remains unchanged. The spirit of rebellion, like a mighty torrent, again bursts forth. Filled with frenzy, he determines not to yield the great controversy. The time has come for a last desperate struggle against the King of heaven. He rushes into the midst of his subjects and endeavors to inspire them with his own fury and arouse them to instant battle. But of all the countless millions whom he has allured into rebellion, there are none now to acknowledge his supremacy. His power is at an end. The wicked are filled with the same hatred of God that inspires Satan; but they see that their case is hopeless, that they cannot prevail against Jehovah. Their rage is kindled against Satan and those who have been his agents in deception, and with the fury of demons they turn upon them.

Saith the Lord: "Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. They shall bring thee down to the pit." "I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. . . . I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. . . . I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. . . . Thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more." Ezekiel 28:6-8, 16-19.

"Every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire." "The indignation of the Lord is upon all nations, and His fury upon all their armies: He hath utterly destroyed them, He hath delivered them to the slaughter." "Upon the wicked He shall rain quick burning coals, fire and brimstone and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup." Isaiah 9:5; 34:2; Psalm 11:6, margin. Fire comes down from God out of heaven. The earth is broken up. The weapons concealed in its depths are drawn forth. Devouring flames burst from every yawning chasm. The very rocks are on fire. The day has come that shall burn as an oven. The elements melt with fervent heat, the earth also, and the works that are therein are burned up. Malachi 4:1; 2 Peter 3:10. The earth's surface seems one molten mass--a vast, seething lake of fire. It is the time of the judgment and perdition of ungodly men--"the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompenses for the controversy of Zion." Isaiah 34:8.

The wicked receive their recompense in the earth. Proverbs 11:31. They "shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts." Malachi 4:1. Some are destroyed as in a moment, while others suffer many days. All are punished "according to their deeds." The sins of the righteous having been transferred to Satan, he is made to suffer not only for his own rebellion, but for all the sins which he has caused God's people to commit. His punishment is to be far greater than that of those whom he has deceived. After all have perished who fell by his deceptions, he is still to live and suffer on. In the cleansing flames the wicked are at last destroyed, root and branch--Satan the root, his followers the branches. The full penalty of the law has been visited; the demands of justice have been met; and heaven and earth, beholding, declare the righteousness of Jehovah.

Satan's work of ruin is forever ended. For six thousand years he has wrought his will, filling the earth with woe and causing grief throughout the universe. The whole creation has groaned and travailed together in pain. Now God's creatures are forever delivered from his presence and temptations. "The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they [the righteous] break forth into singing." Isaiah 14:7. And a shout of praise and triumph ascends from the whole loyal universe. "The voice of a great multitude," "as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings," is heard, saying: "Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth." Revelation 19:6.

While the earth was wrapped in the fire of destruction, the righteous abode safely in the Holy City. Upon those that had part in the first resurrection, the second death has no power. While God is to the wicked a consuming fire, He is to His people both a sun and a shield. Revelation 20:6; Psalm 84:11.
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maybe the prophecy is real but the roles are reversed. what if Lucifer is the good one, and the "God" of the bible is the evil one.

it seems Lucifer just wants to bring knowledge to humans, whereas god wants everyone to worship him and if you don't he will torture and kill you.
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That's what I'm saying. We're only getting one side of the story, and that side has not led a very good example!
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He is like Al Pacino's character in Devil's Advocate or the Lucifer character in Constantine.
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What makes Lucifer think he can win?
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What makes you think he's still trying? hmm
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What makes Lucifer think he can win?


What makes you think he's still trying? hmm
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FOR THE MILLIONTH FRACKING TIME LUCIFER IS NOT THE NAME OF ANY DEMON, FALLEN ANGEL, OR ANY MYTHICAL BEAST IT WAS A REFERENCE TO THE NORTH STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FOR THE MILLIONTH FRACKING TIME LUCIFER IS NOT THE NAME OF ANY DEMON, FALLEN ANGEL, OR ANY MYTHICAL BEAST IT WAS A REFERENCE TO THE NORTH STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gnostic blasphemy.
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maybe the prophecy is real but the roles are reversed. what if Lucifer is the good one, and the "God" of the bible is the evil one.

it seems Lucifer just wants to bring knowledge to humans, whereas god wants everyone to worship him and if you don't he will torture and kill you.


Why do people think like that. So black and white. People actually think god thinks like humans? dont you realize the concept of GOD? Somthing that created the whole universe. Think for a moment how small you are. How USELESS everything is around you. How meaning less all the complex things on earth are. Imagine how life would be on a toatally different planet. everything will have a new definition to itself. God is perfect thats all you need to know.

athiest always say how they think god should be, and his mistakes. What they dont realize is what they say would make sense at all.
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i'm just going off what it says in your bible. if you don't believe in the god described in your bible then ok. i believe the universe was somehow created, i don't know if it was a single being who created it. if anything we are all connected to the same being that created all and we are all god. the illusion is the separation.

lesser beings seem to worship things they perceive as greater than them, the rest of us know we are all apart of the greatness.

so get back on your knees and serve your god if you wish..lol
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lucifer and god are LIES..for dummies..

evil and good are realitys...

and evil rules...evil is the power....evil makes the decisions...

and no phony jesus is gonna change that...

you dont get to the top of the eltists power and wealth ladder by being moral, truthful and righteous..

you get there by :

LIES

CORRUTPIONS

LOVE OF MONEY/ POWER

INFILTARIONS'

INTIMIDATIONS

MONOPLIZATIONS

ETC...

THIS IS ONE REASON WHY THE KHAZAR PARASTIES HAVE REACHED THE TOP, AND STAYED THERE FOR SO LONG..


stop believinf religoious lies, and start noticing REALITIES.
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YOU FUCKING ANTI -SEMITES...

I just wanted to say that....

it usually stops the goyim in their tracks...the same way a flashlight stops a deer at night
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He knows he can't, and because misery loves company, he will take as many with him as he can.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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ANTI -SEMITES !!!


picking on lucifer...

you should be ashamed...
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Ignorance...

He forgets, if we light him...he loses his head.
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Didn't you read the tale ?
Where happily ever after was to kiss a frog?
Don't you know this tale
In which all I ever wanted
I'll never have
For who could ever learn to love a beast?

However cold the wind and rain
I'll be there to ease up your pain
However cruel the mirrors of sin
Remember, beauty is found within

HAIL LUCIFER THE MASTER OF KNOWLEDGE
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this is so stupid. go on 2011 nuts. is this the new zeta date too? rofl
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Didn't you read the tale ?
Where happily ever after was to kiss a frog?
Don't you know this tale
In which all I ever wanted
I'll never have
For who could ever learn to love a beast?

However cold the wind and rain
I'll be there to ease up your pain
However cruel the mirrors of sin
Remember, beauty is found within

HAIL LUCIFER THE MASTER OF KNOWLEDGE
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So ignorant....

Go back to sleep and STFU idiot.
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the story of Lucifer is allegory. The truth is, your flesh is Lucifer!
I dare you to eat that bug!

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Re: What makes Lucifer think he can win?
NOTHING. He's already lost, now he's just trying to take as many people with him as he can.

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