Dinosaurs a hoax created and perpetuated by evolutionists?

I will give you 2 HUGE ones.
The Catholic Church as a power, attempting to destroy whole nations for their religious belief and using the Word of God as an excuse for international conquest. Fastforward to the last 100 years, you would be hard pressed to find a group of people who have devoted themselves so "holy" to the act of helping their fellow man, woman and child as Catholic Nuns. They were there in both World Wars, getting blow up, and blasted just to help out soldiers and innocents. It did not matter their religious belief they just did it. With the wild outbreaks of Ebola and other nasty diseases in "third world countries" they were there, in the houses of the dead and dying, getting sick themselves, but still helping as much as they can, pure human sacrifice, for what they might call "pagans".

Islam, granted they were conquering in the name of God (Allah), but anywhere they left, they rebuilt and made better. They introduced technology, literacy, and mathematics. They gave us ceramics, alloys, chemistry and algebra. Plowing past the Christians and the "West" in advancement and achievement. Fastforward to the last 100 hundred years. They have regressed, pushing back literacy for the word of their clerics. Setting aside technology for Allah, as it is a poison from the "West". Human rights violations against woman, other religions and homosexuals. With little or no signs of changing.

well we didn't evolve from apes

The fact that this thread is rated one star restores my faith in the users of this site somewhat.

I agree, I just don't believe that evolution is possible, let alone dinosaurs

This is true. Also, dogs did not evolve from cats, and the chicken did not evolve from the t. rex.


You might have a small point, however. There are doubtless a great many people who accept the scientific veracity of Common Descent but are largely ignorant of the details. It is probably almost as worthwhile reaching them, as it is reaching the credulous who have been lectured at by creationists and know, not the claims of science, but the insane words of a straw man built by their own preacher.

You don't believe in dinosaurs. Period. I just want to make sure of this, and explore it a little.

How do you describe, for instance, Sue?

[link to www.fieldmuseum.org]

Would that be a coincidental pattern of stones that's managed to fool lots of people? Or is your believe that this is indeed a skeleton, but one created by Satan (or God in a particularly playful mood) of a creature that never actually lived? Or is your belief simpler and closer to home; do you believe the staff of the Chicago Museum are willing accomplices in a Jesuit-Mason-Illuminati-Shriner-Phone Company plot to lure unsuspecting Christians away from their true beliefs?

I await your reply (with, of course, no expectation that you ever will.)

Please..... I am a Christ-man and I know dinosaurs existed. They are even mentioned in the book of Job too. Sheesh....

Earth ages exist too.... there have been many Earth ages... The Hopis knew about them... the Hindus know about them....

Open your mind. If you keep those blinders on, you will miss all the true wonders.

From my scattered experience, the two main threads of Christian belief regarding dinosaurs are these;

1) Dinosaurs were part of the panoply of life in the time before humans evolved. Evolution is naturalistic, although it took place with the approval of and perhaps a little gentle tweaking from God.

2) Dinosaurs were part of the pre-flood world (as an aside, how the hell did Noah ever get any farming done while trying to wade through the trilobites?) They were even carried on the Ark. Unfortunately, the poor fellows died off at the same time everyone else turned carnivore, micro-evolved, and spread out across the drying-off planet.


I have not ran into many who believe that dinosaurs are a complete fabrication. It does seem to me, however, to be a simpler solution to the problems of a 4,000 year post-flood history. Don't try to explain what the t. rex was doing on the Ark, just pretend it never existed in the first place. That also gets rid of the the trilobite infestation problem.


(In case anyone is not following that particular idea, there are millions of years of trilobite fossils. The requirements of flood geology means all those fossilized creatures had to be contemporaneous. So Noachian times would be worse than being in D.C. during the Seven-Year Locusts. You literally would be unable to walk a foot without wading through the trilobites.)

This has been a quiet theory in the back of my brain for quite some time now...i have 2 thaughts on this or theories that are possible; 1) yes this is a hoax perpetuated by a massive one world government organization with lots of cash to fabricate digs and bones to pull this off with a faulty system of "carbon dating" to throw us off. I mean come on who in the real world has been on a dig and found a full skeleton, this could definetly be set up...2) There is a christian beleif that before noahs' flood there were still "The Garden of Eden paradise type" conditions on the earth and as the waters from above and below broke and flooded the earth 40 days and nights that God further cursed the earth and depleted an extra ozone layer which further protected us from harmful rays from outer space, this ozone layer not only was to protect us but also caused everything on the earth to grow at least seven times larger, even humans...there is evidence even today of Giants in the land, look at Shaquille Oneil, remember Goliath, being over 9 feet tall, and his brothers who where there is an account in the Bible that David and his men wiped them out in battles, it is possible that we are definetly "devolving" along with everything on the earth because of the curse of sin placed on us through Adam and Eve, so we along with the animals we have dominion over shrink as and live shorter lives rather than longer lives, the Bible gives accounts of men and women living over 800 years before dying....

Evolution is just mutation ok?

You believe and understand That things can mutate and do so, correct?

many things can cause mutation in living organisims, including external causes such as environment.

From a virus to those super weeds that beat Monsantos Round up by evolving!!

Evolution is not a theory, it is an observable process of mutation.

Natural selection is the theory, which Darwin postulated to explain the observable process of evolution.
Natural selection is what creationists should be arguing against.
It's a complex theory and fertile material for debate.

Arguing against evolution however, is somewhat like denying the existence of clouds.

If some say we are Reptilians , then we must come from the Dinosaurs lol

Wow - a GLP golden oldie SFMT blast from the past

RE: That video was crap.
...You would know, you're the expert on CRAP!

God's eternal purpose is have a group of people, filled with Him as life, to express Him and represent Him.

God doesnt exist to pander to you!

After sinning in the garden of Eden and turning our backs on Him, why does God have to pander to the likes of you? He doesnt have to say the diamater of the Sun is xyz because He doesnt have to. He doesnt owe you squat, buddy! I can tell you He's more concerned with establishing the credibility of the eventual savior, by planning His recovery and preserving the bloodline to Jesus, from Seth all the way out to Noah, then eventually to Isaac and his Descendents, to Boaz and Ruth (who acted righteously in an age of lawlessnes), to Jesse and eventually to Jesus. We have an on-time God. He is never early and never late, He's just on-time.

Besides, when someone's heart is as hardened as yours, it wouldnt matter what was provided to you as evidence. You would just reject it out of hand because you're having heart problems.

This isn't UFOs we're talking about here and you're not Phillip Klass, claiming that it's swamp gas and asking why God doesnt just land on the white house lawn. This is REAL business. Our God is a holy and righteous God, creator of heaven and earth. He didnt land here, He became one of us 2000+ years ago.

Please try to watch Kent Hovind's videos on you tube. He proves that the earth is only 6 thousand years old. Noah must have brought them on the ark and that there are still dinosaurs today. In the bible they are called dragons. So they existed with man. Man killed them off in part. Part was the climate. There are tracks in Glenrose, Texas of a man and dinosaur side by side. ALso, this will clear every thing up for you. Please don't be confused. Hovind's theory is the best one by far and he makes the atheists look real dumb!! There are reports of ptarydactils in South America and Africa. The native americans called them piasa, which is the real thunderbird, not the eagle. Please watch the films....also icca stones from south america thousands of years old with pictures engraved of a man riding a dinosaur. Man HAS seen dinosaurs. Satan just took the gap and mad lies.

Everything was bigger when Adam was alive. Dinosaurs are nothing but BIG LIZARDS. There was more oxygen then. They took an oxygen sample from a mosquito petrified in sap. The oxygen level was way higher than today. David mentioned that there was water in the sky before the flood which made the pressure and oxygen better and the sun UV rays were blocked so people lived alot longer.

Watch Kent Hovind's vid. He proves that dinosaurs existed in the bible.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Dinosaurs and the bible Kent Hovind

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Mokele-mbembe: The Living Dinosaur!
Introduction
In the jungles of central Africa countries of Congo, Cameroon, and Gabon are reports of animal an animal with a long neck, a long tail, and rounded shape tracks with three claws. The closest known animal that has these characteristics is a sauropod dinosaur.

When some of the local people of the Likouala region would draw in the dirt or sand a representation of Mokele-mbembe they drew the shape of a sauropod dinosaur. Then when they were shown a picture of a sauropod dinosaur they said that picture is Mokele-mbembe.

Mokele-mbembe means "One that stops the flow of rivers." French priest in the region called it "monstrous animal."

Mokele-mbembe is also used as a generic term to refer to other animals like Emela-ntouka, Mbielu-mbielu-mbielu, and Nguma-monene.

Description
Body
Mokele-mbembe has been described as an animal with a long neck and tail which are characteristics of a sauropod dinosaur.

Its body size is somewhere between the size of a hippopotamus and an elephant. Its length has been reported to be between 5 to 10 meters (16 to 32 feet). The length of the neck is between 1.6 to 3.3 meters (5 to 10 feet). The length of the tail is between 1.6 to 3.3 meters (5 to 10 feet). The reports out of Cameroon have reported Mokele-mbembe to be up to 75 feet in length.

There have also been reports of a frill on the back of the head. The frill is like the comb found on a cock (male chicken). There has also been reports of it having a horn on its head.

Skin
The color of the skin is predominately reddish-brown with a color range from gray to brown. There are no reports of hair on the animal.

Tracks
Rounded shape between 30 to 90 centimeters (1 to 3 feet) in diameter with three claws. The distance between tracks is about 2.1 to 2.4 meters (7 to 8 feet).

Sound
The basic belief is that Mokele-mbembe does not make any sounds, though there have been come conflicting reports. This is probably due to the fact that Mokele-mbembe is used generically for other animals and the sound is being confused with Emela-ntouka which makes a sound like a snort, howl, roar, rumble, or growl.

Habitat
Mokele-mbembe lives in the pools and swamps adjacent to the rivers of the Likouala swamp region of The People's Republic of the Congo on the continent of Africa. Its uses the lakes as a crossing path to go from one river to another river.

Diet
The pygmies of the Likouala swamp region report that the essential diet of Mokele-mbembe consists of the Malombo plant. Since it only eats plants then Mokele-mbembe is classified as a herbivore. The Malombo plant actually describes two plants: Landolphia mannii and Landolphia owariensis.

Behavior
Mokele-mbembe lives most of the time underwater except when it eats or travels to another part of the swamp.

It has as been reported that Mokele-mbembe does not like hippopotamuses and will kill them on sight, but it does not eat them. Hippopotamuses cannot be found where Mokele-mbembe lives.

It has as been reported that Mokele-mbembe will overturn boats and kill the people from the boats by biting them and hitting them with its tail, but it does not eat the people.

Sightings
•April 2000 - Cameroon, Boumba River, Two Congolese security guards
Expeditions
•2001 - February/March - CryptoSafari, Cameroon
•2000 - November - Gibbons-Wetzel, Cameroon
•1992 - Operation Congo 2
•1992 - Japanese Expedition
Bibliographies
•A Living Dinosaur? In Search of Mokele-mbembe by Dr. Roy P. Mackal
•Drums Along the Congo: On the Trial of Mokele-mbembe, the Last Living Dinosaur by Rory Nugent.
•Results of the First Congolese Mokele-Mbembe Expedition by Agnagna, Marcellin
•On the Track of Unknown Animals by Dr.Bernard Heuvelmans
•Les Derniers Dragons d'Afrique (The Last Dragons of Africa) by Dr.Bernard Heuvelmans
•In Search of Prehistoric Survivors: Do Giant 'Extinct' Creatures Still Exist by Dr. Karl Shuker
Links
•Corliss, William R. "Mokele-mbembe." [link to www.science-frontiers.com]
•Gibbons, Bill. "Was a Mokele-mbembe killed at Lake Tele?." [link to www.anomalist.com]
•TrueAuthority.com. "Mokele-mbembe, of Africa." [link to www.trueauthority.com]
•O'Donnell, Phillip "Mokele-mbembe: a dinosaur of Africa?." [link to www.livingdinos.com]
•Quammen, David . "MegaTransect: Across 1,200 Miles of Untamed Africa on Foot." [link to www.nationalgeographic.com]
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There were no dinousaurs in world and there wont be... BIBLE says animals but never dinos and if they did exsist why didnt they reproduce before dying...its a matter of what the Bible says compare to some evolutionist dumb JAPS

Dinosaws arn't to big. a bigger building has a bigger support system. same concept for dinos.

and still my turn.

Oh lordy lord why must we die on the date of december 21, 2012!

Yes, Satan buried skeletons made of rock to fool you.

" And God created Great Whales." Gen.1.21
The Bible does not say one single word about Dinosaurs (T.Rex,Bront., Doyouthinkhesaurus, etc. It specifically mentions every single animal by name and classifies them specifically as clean and unclean? If they did in fact exist are they clean or unclean? The only way you can fit the dinasour into the puzzle is by bringing into the pseudoscience of evolution. You cannot put them in the bible as some have attempted by erroneous interpretation.
The question is are Dinos a hoax.. not one link I have seen so far has seriouslly tried to answer the question. My answer is a most definite yes! Sometimes I feel like Galleo telling people that the earth is not flat but really round. Where are they actual facts conserning this issue. If you saw the movie Jurrassic Park, you would have noticed that they had to use DNA from a frog to make up the dinos. Let's get real here. If they did in fact exist, it would be as simple as coming up with the DNA. Dinos and no DNA? Hmm, sounds kind of fishy if you ask me.

OMG.... this has got to be a joke!

Yes, you're right, and there's no GLP trolls, either...

i could say something like that about the bible to. it a book. i can write a book to.javascript:void(0)

Ha, ha, ha, I've had my laugh for today.

that because the people who made up the bible didn't know about dinos

There is a large animal with a tail mentioned in the bible. I think it was called a 'behemoth'?

I'm sure if there was a creature that resembles a dinosaur, it wasn't called by that name.

Also, the dinosaurs had been wiped out by then, two thousand years ago.

If you read any of Ruth Montgomery's books, she did describe Atlantis and dinosaurs.

Nevertheless, the best evidence is just that...EVIDENCE! Dinosaur bones and eggs have been found.

C'mon, you can't be serious..

alright OP, I want you to go on google and search girafes and elephants(unless you think those are a myth too).

Are we answering questions from 5 years ago now?