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Internet outages reason

 
kenw232
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12/29/2008 01:26 PM
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Internet outages reason
A few days ago there were some large scale internet outages. Across mostly the US?

Simple report here:
[link to www.montysmegamarketing.com]

Everyone knows there’s going to be an Internet 911 eventually, so they can come in with an iPatriot act and take control of the internet for our "safety" as usual.

Now the internet is designed to work under stress, as its original purpose was to withstand a nuke.

So how do they create a large scale internet problem? They can't just do it, they have to prepare for it. They install devices that actually disrupt and screw up the internet (or just stop traffic) on command. This makes a small problem seem much bigger on demand.

So they're propaganda outlets (Faux News, newspapers, etc.) will say "root name servers attacked", or "terrorists attack internet", then immediately turn on these devices they probably recently installed to make a small problem huge so everyone is affected and they get they're internet 911.

Problem, reaction, solution. The solution is always increased slavery. Always.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2008 01:33 PM
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Re: Internet outages reason
Yup, had problems for about one hour yesterday in Germany.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2008 01:37 PM
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Re: Internet outages reason
The following thread seems to tie in with yours. I don't know what's going on with the net!

Thread: Arab Cyber ATTACK???!!!
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2008 01:44 PM
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Re: Internet outages reason
tampering with the hard lines.
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2008 01:50 PM
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Emergency Broadcast System..... On the internet
[link to uk.youtube.com]
Anonymous Coward
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12/29/2008 01:57 PM
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Well to tell you the truth the internet is not all that hardened against disruption. Just one isp going down can cause massive outages if the proper steps to rectify the routing arent taken... which has happened a couple of times in the past.

Some may also recall what happened when 2 of the big american carriers got into a fight and disconnected from each other or some such


On the other hand the internet is not at any given location, and is more of a concept than an object. It's hundreds.. thousands.. millions.. of individual computer networks who happen to be interlinked. So take out one network, and the rest will just work around it, in theory (assuming the devices are configured properly). Take out USA completely.. and the internet still remains for the rest of the world, no biggy.

As for putting 'devices' everywhere to do funky stuff to the internet for 'security' reasons.. why? They can just access the routers and switches already present and screw the bgp advertisements to cause all sorts of annoying internet outages.
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12/29/2008 02:05 PM
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So they're propaganda outlets (Faux News, newspapers, etc.) will say "root name servers attacked", or "terrorists attack internet", then immediately turn on these devices they probably recently installed to make a small problem huge so everyone is affected and they get they're internet 911.


 Quoting: kenw232 561183


Root servers, ie the DNS central servers, don't cause the internet to go down at all. The network is not affected in any way, in fact (unless the admin of that network is a complete retard anyway).

ALL DNS is for is to make it easier for humans to reach an address. It turns 216.194.67.12 into www.godlikeproductions.com (and the ip is still another level of human readability, in actuality its a 4 byte binary string)

Doesn't help your average unsavvy computer user, but someone who knows an ip can just browse to that IP directly (or even the decimal equivalent of that 4 byte binary works in browsers often enough).

You want to make sure you aren't overly affected by the DNS root servers going down? Find your local 'hosts' file and add your favorite sites and their IPS, and you will be able to browse to a dns address no matter what the root servers are doing.

(But beware if a website changes ips, you will have to change it in that file too).

Lots of guides about the windows/linux hosts file out there.
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12/29/2008 02:19 PM
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Root servers, ie the DNS central servers, don't cause the internet to go down at all. The network is not affected in any way, in fact (unless the admin of that network is a complete retard anyway).

ALL DNS is for is to make it easier for humans to reach an address. It turns 216.194.67.12 into www.godlikeproductions.com (and the ip is still another level of human readability, in actuality its a 4 byte binary string)

Doesn't help your average unsavvy computer user, but someone who knows an ip can just browse to that IP directly (or even the decimal equivalent of that 4 byte binary works in browsers often enough).

You want to make sure you aren't overly affected by the DNS root servers going down? Find your local 'hosts' file and add your favorite sites and their IPS, and you will be able to browse to a dns address no matter what the root servers are doing.

(But beware if a website changes ips, you will have to change it in that file too).

Lots of guides about the windows/linux hosts file out there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430584

Yes, but afaik the Level3 routers were affected which route the connections to those affected sites. And this is unrelated to DNS.

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