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There are No "Victims"

 
bitchfromhell
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My stalker gets out of prison in about 3 years, he will, no doubt, be back to kill me as he promised. How do you turn the other cheek on that one?
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how long have you been in that place


Oh not that long (for this body), around a year or so.
 Quoting: Azure'



yah i am in a strange place myself
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12/30/2008 04:22 PM
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OK, now I KNOW you're a bot for the oppressor regime!
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she is from Satan

same as many peoiples on this forum

dont even try to tolk to her

be cerfull

they know what they tolk about

untill they become the victims

then they will see what the victim is about

they can not cheange the truth

even they try

they want put guilty for the victims


in fact I dont understand what Azare was writing but it is what Im thinking it is about
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My stalker gets out of prison in about 3 years, he will, no doubt, be back to kill me as he promised. How do you turn the other cheek on that one?
 Quoting: bitchfromhell 473633



What are you going to do when he gets out?
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
Azure' (OP)

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12/30/2008 04:23 PM
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how long have you been in that place


Oh not that long (for this body), around a year or so.



yah i am in a strange place myself
 Quoting: whyidontknow


Lots of it going on (well, more than ever, at least.)

We're in the end game, is why...
Life is All there Is. What are you doing in It? What have you done in It? What will you do in It? Eternally On...
Tomek
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12/30/2008 04:24 PM
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In fact I respect Azure

and I like to tell to her to be with us
Tomek
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12/30/2008 04:27 PM
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We're in the end game, is why...
 Quoting: Azure'



to be in the end game it is need to be together

other way we can not even think about be

be

is lost

together is not


of cource if it will be any more any end game



posible yes
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OK, now I KNOW you're a bot for the oppressor regime!



she is from Satan

same as many peoiples on this forum

dont even try to tolk to her

be cerfull

they know what they tolk about

untill they become the victims

then they will see what the victim is about

they can not cheange the truth

even they try

they want put guilty for the victims


in fact I dont understand what Azare was writing but it is what Im thinking it is about
 Quoting: Tomek 509966



Tomek, if you don't understand what this thread is about, why do you respond?

By the way, there is no Satan.... I promise you that! Satan is a state of mind, what you belive you will attract to you. Do you understand what I am telling you?

hf
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
Tomek
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Tomek, if you don't understand what this thread is about, why do you respond?

 Quoting: Canuck



I understand the title

the title is : There are No "Victims"

anyway Im sorry to Azure if it is about somthing diferent then the title is

By the way, there is no Satan.... I promise you that! Satan is a state of mind, what you belive you will attract to you. Do you understand what I am telling you?

 Quoting: Canuck



there is no Satan ?

Satan or Asura or the devil is known that it or He exist is real from thousands thousands off years on this planet

do you know why ?

this not mean that it is stae of minde only

devil state of minde is coming from Satan

do you know why ?

because Satan
Tomek
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some one from here

is going not forward

from some reasons

...............

There are No "Victims"

...............


There
Anonymous Coward
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12/30/2008 05:10 PM
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so i singed up to this spiritual web forum and i chose the same avatar there as i have here and look what happend when i refused to change it

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Date the ban will be lifted: Never


what a bunch of commy bastards- spiritual my ASS


:fngr: :fngr:
Azure' (OP)

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12/30/2008 05:13 PM
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Dear Tomek,

Whilst there can be some icky things hanging out in the Astral Planes (and other places) and that these may attempt to mess with you is a fact but, indeed, as Canuck states, there is no "Satan". The 'Satan' character has become a personification of a group of beings/collective that was adversary of the Luciferian collective. In other words, they were 'the bogey man'/enemy of the Lucerferians which is why they/it is bad-mouthed in Judaeo-Christian texts.
It was easy for those running the then-new Christian religion to combine this entity (collective) with extisting Norse/Teutonic Pagan god figures when selling their new religion to Western & Nothern Europe. They did just that and, voila, you got your 'new and improved' "Satan" bogey man along with "Hell"(from the old Pagan Hel.)

Know that you have the God-given Power to ward off *any* dissonance. It begins with Faith (*in Your-Self* and the God-given Power that you have) that you Are Capable of these things. We All ARE (but people have been taught instead to give away their Power - let alone Faith in Themselves.)

Here is some more I wrote on Personal power:
Thread: Your Choice

Again, I write here with the greatest Respect for all of you, and I have nothing "against", nor any argument with, anyone.

In Absolute Respect,
Azure'
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Tomek
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12/30/2008 05:21 PM
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thank you for the answer Azure'

I will read later
Azure' (OP)

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so i singed up to this spiritual web forum and i chose the same avatar there as i have here and look what happend when i refused to change it

You have been banned for the following reason:
Banned at request of member

Date the ban will be lifted: Never


what a bunch of commy bastards- spiritual my ASS


:fngr: :fngr:
 Quoting: whyidontknow


LOL

Here's something that the spiritually-immature (religions are particularly prone to such things) do not comprehend, nor do they wsih to hear:
"God"/The ISness/Source does not go around "controlling" things. IT simply Allows *All* Expression, Knowing that it will self-regulate, based upon the Cosmic Laws of Energy. Thus, IT does *not* interfere.
However, it does not mean that the Source does not have Preferences. Indeed, No#1 on It's List is LIFE (in essence, ItSelf) and the Expression therefore. Going hand-in-hand with this is Freedom, Harmony and Balance.

Azure'
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Anonymous Coward
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12/30/2008 05:25 PM
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One of the biggest obstacles to *Progress* on this planet is:
The belief in "victimhood", and hence too the belief in "victimisers".

The Truth of the matter is that there *are NO victims* and, by implication, *no* "victimisers".

When one stands Back and takes a look at the Bigger Picture this is self-evident.

It is the *belief in victimhood* which perpetuates strife and hardship and powerlessness on Earth.

YOU have a Choice:
1] Believe in "Victimhood"
2] Reject the idea of "Victimhood"

The fewer believers there are in "Victimhood", the greater, and more exponential, the Progress will be.

This "victim/victimiser" nonsense has gone on WAAAY too long on this planet... It is time for a Change, and it begins with YOU.

To those of you who believe in "punishment", those who believe in "revenge", those who believe in "an eye for an eye"... you are believing in the *Illusion* that is "Victimhood"! Why not decide on a Change???

If you rather 'turn the other cheek' then you are beginning to 'get it', you are beginning to break the cycle - to truly begin to Change your world.

'Resist not evil'... is one way of putting it; yet on the next level of consciosuness one realises that "evil" is part of the same Illusion.

Do not 'get me wrong', I am NOT advocating not standing up for one's rights. One's Rights are one's Brithright. No-one has the right to take them away from you, that is not a right. The difference becomes clear in *how one Perceives events* and how one *responds* OR *reacts*. Knee-jerk reactions are usually based on the same Illusion. Responding, on the other hand is the more Intelligent Choice and allows instead for the possibility of informed, benevolent and constructive Choice.

This also does not mean that it does not sadden me to see suffering and unpleasant things take place. It does not mean one has to become numb to the world.

Choosing to transcened the Illusion most often requires some effort and self-discipline and it all begins with *your thoughts* - this is where YOU can begin to Change it all, if you wish to. It is your Choice.

As I write this I am reminded of an excellent quote from the book Illusions:
"The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a butterfly." ~ Richard Bach

So what is it that you Choose? (A question perhaps for self-consideration.)

Will you join me in making the most constructive Choice?

Azure'
 Quoting: Azure'


I am now the victim of a complete waste of time. You have posted utter drivel. You are clearly educated beyond your intelligence. Please refrain from posting on the internet.
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My stalker gets out of prison in about 3 years, he will, no doubt, be back to kill me as he promised. How do you turn the other cheek on that one?
 Quoting: bitchfromhell 473633

Double ought buckshot.
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12/30/2008 06:57 PM
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In fact I respect Azure

and I like to tell to her to be with us
 Quoting: Tomek 509966

You will love "her" when she fucks you up the ass.
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OK, now I KNOW you're a bot for the oppressor regime!



she is from Satan

same as many peoiples on this forum

dont even try to tolk to her

be cerfull

they know what they tolk about

untill they become the victims

then they will see what the victim is about

they can not cheange the truth

even they try

they want put guilty for the victims


in fact I dont understand what Azare was writing but it is what Im thinking it is about



Tomek, if you don't understand what this thread is about, why do you respond?

By the way, there is no Satan.... I promise you that! Satan is a state of mind, what you belive you will attract to you. Do you understand what I am telling you?

hf
 Quoting: Canuck

No he doesn't and you are very wrong.
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OK, now I KNOW you're a bot for the oppressor regime!

she is from Satan

same as many peoiples on this forum

dont even try to tolk to her

be cerfull

they know what they tolk about

untill they become the victims

then they will see what the victim is about

they can not cheange the truth

even they try

they want put guilty for the victims

in fact I dont understand what Azare was writing but it is what Im thinking it is about



Tomek, if you don't understand what this thread is about, why do you respond?

By the way, there is no Satan.... I promise you that! Satan is a state of mind, what you belive you will attract to you. Do you understand what I am telling you?

hf

No he doesn't and you are very wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 582868


He does seem to be a little confused...:(

Satan is man's creation to control man, as it does yourself.
However, I respect and would fight to the death for you to hold your beliefs, such as they are.

Canuck
“I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.”
CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
Liquid Reality

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How would we know good from bad or light from dark if we didn't have the opposit to compare it to??? Can you give me the answer to this question?
 Quoting: Canuck


That's never occured to me before. Thank you for the epiphany!
Fools must learn from experience.
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12/30/2008 07:49 PM
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I think this is the best thread ever posted on here.Very wise and truthful. Azure' is awesome!!! hf
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So you work for the foundationas well. Sad. See you in hell.
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People who aren't ready for this truth will not hear you. I find its not worth debating with people who are still very attached to their ego.


Hey RiBS, thanks for reciprocating... you said it, but hey, there are those who have shown some resonance and the rest are just bumpers.


There are always those who are ready to draw you back into the ridiculous game.

Quite right, the operative word being "try". I could only allow that if I choose to play the 'victim' game you see.
:-)
I'm really only just replying to them because I'm about to have some more coffee!
:-)

Azure'
 Quoting: Azure'


Azure, I hope to gain the wisdom you have displayed on this board! Thanks for starting it, and thanks for showing us how to deal patiently with everyone.

What practical advice can you give me to stop allowing frustration to arise when dealing with the very unenlightened?

Canuck, feel free to weigh in as well. :)
Fools must learn from experience.
Azure' (OP)

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12/30/2008 08:15 PM
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I agree 100% OP. People need to take responsibility for their actions and choices and stop blaming everyone else for their shortcomings and failures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 563342


Taking it further, people can Choose to be accountable for *all* the Experiences in their lives. In the larger scheme of things we are each fully Accountable for what happens in our experience. It is NOT some god, NOT some "devil", NOT some criminal, NOT some xyz (insert 'victimiser' of your choice) who is responsible for your "misfortune" or your 'good fortune'. Blame or worship as you wish... it does *not* shift the True Responsibility (which is All-Ways YOURS.)

The Universe is holographic in nature and one of the attributes of holograms is that *each piece, no matter how small, contains a copy of The Whole*. Every-thing affects the other in very specific ways. Now what does that mean for actions, what does that mean for thoughts?

Your thoughts and your actions create *the same energy patterns*. They are indistinguishable in terms of fundamental Cosmic structure.

What does it say about how your make use of *your Energy* when you consider the thoughts you entertain?

Holograms can also be changed with greater ease once one understands The Prjector.

Illusions imply a reality behind them. You all once Knew It. Everyone Originally comes from there... yet at the same time we are 'there' too, now only with our consciousness focussed within an illusionary world of mirrors.

Azure'
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None of what the OP states is practical, it doesnt work. OP is a manic person as well who doesnt suffer at all. the "suffering" she has is tiny and not real suffering. that explains the post. OP will either ignore the post or reply with nonsense/disinfo. OP cant answer to the flaws of her false post.
Azure' (OP)

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I think this is the best thread ever posted on here.Very wise and truthful. Azure' is awesome!!! hf
 Quoting: markass


If anything I wrote struck a chord with you then it is not 'per chance'. Thank you for your kind words nevertheless. I do not seek them but appreciate your positive sentiments.

Thank yourself for seeing what you already knew and simply didn't recall in this moment, and for what you already Know subconsciously. What I write may simply be a conscious reminder. For others, they will, as always, try to play "shoot the messenger"... but of course it is not 'for them' that I write here. For them I am seen as 'target practice'. 'Keep it up' boys, it is ultimately your energy you are wasting (and nice try with the attempted pyschic attacks by some of the 'same gang' - or shall I say, gang behind the gang. Same old games... it's getting a little stale now.)

I am encouraged to see more and more spiritually awake people on this forum and it's heart warming to see so many constructive comments here too.

Azure'
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Also, OP likely has Asperger's syndrome
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None of what the OP states is practical, it doesnt work. OP is a manic person as well who doesnt suffer at all. the "suffering" she has is tiny and not real suffering. that explains the post. OP will either ignore the post or reply with nonsense/disinfo. OP cant answer to the flaws of her false post.
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OP is unethical False Light Darkness. Disinfo
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Even child molestation victims?

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