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There are No "Victims"

 
Azure' (OP)

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OP, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck
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Hi Canuck,

"I" (before my walk-in experience) have been violently physically assaulted, for no apparent reason, before - damage to the body, etc - in this life. In at least two of my other lives my body was killed through violent assault/persecution.

...but I am *not* "a victim", of that I can assure you. It is simply not an option for me.

Azure'
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Oh, and here's wishing everyone a Blessed and Harmonious New Year.

May there be Balance and Serenity in all that you do,
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T.C., do you believe that every last detail of our lives here on this planet are planned in detail before we incarnate?
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No I don't. I guess its possible but can you imagine the co-ordination required? Its mind boggling. And if it were true then how do we supposedly have 'free will'? Or is free will simply an illusion created as a result of our physical minds manifesting a karmic reality? I am more akin to believe that perhaps we incarnate with certain goals/agendas but that the specifics are not important.
Take your dogma and shove it!

Life is not about what happens to you, it's about how you deal with it.
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Thank you for the blessing my dear.


And while there are no victims in the purest sense of the word, anyone who reads my threads may feel like one.


LOLOL.


Be well.


Shalom.
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These things require steely resolve and a strong mind, those who do not see behind the veil are of weak mind and intellect. To strengthen your mind is a tough, long process, and is ongoing, but the results worth it. Victimhood is after all at its very core a human emotion, remove the emotion from the equation and you see things much more clearly indeed!
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Remove human emotion and degenerate into being a robot.
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And while there are no victims in the purest sense of the word, anyone who reads my threads may feel like one.

Shalom.
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ROTFL! :-)

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"And surely struggle against him we must
in every possible way who would annihilate knowledge
and reason and mind, and yet ventures to speak
confidently about everything."

Plato, Phaedo
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"Not through any one, or two, or even dozens of brilliant generations, but through age-long struggle has man attained the simple things of the spirit, what we call the homely virtues. The sacredness of a promise; the sense of moral obligation; common ordinary veracity; personal integrity; individual liberty; elementary justice. . . to mention only a few. And in the end--when all else in the world crashes about our lives--they are the things to which we turn; the things that count. The 'homely' virtues. Spiritual values."


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OP, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck


Hi Canuck,

"I" (before my walk-in experience) have been violently physically assaulted, for no apparent reason, before - damage to the body, etc - in this life. In at least two of my other lives my body was killed through violent assault/persecution.

...but I am *not* "a victim", of that I can assure you. It is simply not an option for me.

Azure'
 Quoting: Azure'



My apologies Azure' I meant the question for the AC. That post was not meant for you.

Interestingly, as a young child I had persistent dreams of being sacrificed at an alter as a baby. I would wake up terrified just as the knife approached my body, thankfully the dreams left me as I matured. This is the only memory I retain of any previous life.

I don't believe I have incarnated to this plane as many as some. But I am looking foward to returning home and not having to do another stint here. :)
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Azure' (OP)

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My apologies Azure' I meant the question for the AC. That post was not meant for you.

Interestingly, as a young child I had persistent dreams of being sacrificed at an alter as a baby. I would wake up terrified just as the knife approached my body, thankfully the dreams left me as I matured. This is the only memory I retain of any previous life.

I don't believe I have incarnated to this plane as many as some. But I am looking foward to returning home and not having to do another stint here. :)
 Quoting: Canuck


Some expriences come up for Healing at times.

As a Healer it is all about *how one deals with what comes up* (and that can the most unexpected things) - in one's Mind - or any other place; physical, emotional, mental and more...

So, the question for everyone is: What do you Choose? To Heal or not give a damn (or worse) - it doesn't take a genius to figure out which one is more healthy...
(I know what you Choose, Canuck, I was just going off on a little tangent there for some of the others who just don't 'get it' yet.)

May you be Whole in every way...

Azure'
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Again, the OP has never suffered before and is making false statements


With Absolute Respect, you have absolutely *no idea* what you are talking about.



E.G. thoughts do not affect condition, but a person can lie and say it does and make spurious statements on a board, then other people can point out its untrue, then the OP can type more nonsense as a non-comeback while others of retardation will see the non-comeback as a comeback even though its not

do you understand how it works now?


What are you doing here then if that is what you believe? Would your words not then by your logic be *as worthless* as you purport mine to be?

Azure'


This is not Oprah disinfo or The Secret forum.

Now, i had specific symptoms of Anemia, including even cracks on the side of my mouth. Im a vegetarian who has an iron deficient diet. When i started taking Iron, i was sure it would help the way i felt, yet it had no effect.

My belief in the Iron having an effect for certain had no impact, the exact opposite occured. Now, if what you state was true, i wouldnt have had this experience, nor would i have had hundreds of other experiences where beliefs and thoughts have no effect, nor would millions of other people have billions of experiences where this is shown to be false.

However your illogical cognitive disorder Asperger's syndrome mind will ignore this reply or have a reply that ignores the facts of it, because this is the way you are. You are "programmed" to say false things because they "sound true", then ignore super clear and repeating indications that they are false, then use the english language in an unclear strange way to unethically state these fallacies and oppose those who say its clearly untrue, trying to make them look like they are "not ready yet to see the 'truth'.

Its unethical because its saying people who have experiences you dont have nor ever have chose those experiences or has an easy solution but just simply doesnt use it, when again, this is shown to be false no matter how "true" it "feels" to you.

Your personality is actually wicked rather than spiritual and ethical.


Anonymous Coward 583542, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck
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This was my next point and you are matching your MO perfectly

i was also going to mention that you are programmed to use the word victim because its programmed to give a negative connotation and programmed to make you look correct. but in real life reality it is incorrect, and you will dodge the facts as azure does.

Like i said, the statement are false rather than true. You can see the statements are false from first hand experience, or you can be a liar or denial person of fakeness.

this is why people think one thing and believe one thing, and a different thing happens. of course if the false statements were true, this would never happen.

Its unethical, wrong for you to make false statements that are super clearly false, as clearly false as pink elephants can fly.

It is wrong, unethical, evil and wicked of you to be typing the things you type, because you are typing false statements to psychologically attack others

that is malevolent rather than benevolent.

it is malevolent to downtalk to peoples suffering, making false statements about it, and playing psychological attack games

not benevolent, malevolent,

not light, but darkness and evil and mean and cruel ....

know the difference?
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so in a nutshell is this thread and azure + cucuck is malevolent psyops disinformation
Azure' (OP)

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This was my next point and you are matching your MO perfectly

i was also going to mention that you are programmed to use the word victim because its programmed to give a negative connotation and programmed to make you look correct. but in real life reality it is incorrect, and you will dodge the facts as azure does.

Like i said, the statement are false rather than true. You can see the statements are false from first hand experience, or you can be a liar or denial person of fakeness.

this is why people think one thing and believe one thing, and a different thing happens. of course if the false statements were true, this would never happen.

Its unethical, wrong for you to make false statements that are super clearly false, as clearly false as pink elephants can fly.

It is wrong, unethical, evil and wicked of you to be typing the things you type, because you are typing false statements to psychologically attack others

that is malevolent rather than benevolent.

it is malevolent to downtalk to peoples suffering, making false statements about it, and playing psychological attack games

not benevolent, malevolent,

not light, but darkness and evil and mean and cruel ....

know the difference?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 583542



With all Respect...

Come on and talk straight and with a little more sense, will you?

WTF are you on about?

*What* "false" statements? Please give me one example.

Azure'
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azure + cucuck is malevolent psyops disinformation
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Riiiiiiiiiiight......

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so in a nutshell is this thread and azure + cucuck is malevolent psyops disinformation
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I think they're allowing themselves to become dehumanized, probably through buying into influences such as "Seth" and "The Secret" which deal in partial truths disguised as absolutes.
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I think they're allowing themselves to become dehumanized, probably through buying into influences such as "Seth" and "The Secret" which deal in partial truths disguised as absolutes.
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Thank you for your perspective.

For your information:
1] I have not read any Seth material
2] I stopped watching "The Secret" after 5 minutes.
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Its false statement to say there are no victims and that your thoughts change reality

the reason why the statement is false is because, i already explained, I myself thoguht and believed one thing, then the exact opposite happened, and this occurred hundreds of countless times. Same thing with millions of other people.

So your statement arises from

1) never suffering, i mean real suffering then experience where no matter what you do, nothing hels the pain and torture at all

2) having a low intelligence and not being able to think. E.G. it only took my brain 2 seconds to remember several instances of thoughts not working, and that millions of people experience, yet you have an entire thread for days and days and dont think of this. Odd , like your brain doesnt function or something. 2 seconds is all it takes to remember the evidence that the statements are false. if beliefs impacted outcome, then the experiences i had never would have occurred, same thing with MILLIONs of other people


so therefore, you are a cold and cruel person to tell a suffering person "hey you, suffering person, its all your fault, there are no victims, stop playing victim, the answer is easy, you just dont use it"

like a cold witch bitch of evil and cruelness.
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T.C., do you believe that every last detail of our lives here on this planet are planned in detail before we incarnate?

No I don't. I guess its possible but can you imagine the co-ordination required? Its mind boggling. And if it were true then how do we supposedly have 'free will'? Or is free will simply an illusion created as a result of our physical minds manifesting a karmic reality? I am more akin to believe that perhaps we incarnate with certain goals/agendas but that the specifics are not important.
 Quoting: T.C



Of course I didn't mean down to planning what one has for breakfast each day, but just the major issues and events that transpire as we live our lives here to learn whatever lessons we are here for. However that planning would also take into account our connections and interactions with those who are going to be here at the same time. Because somewhere in their life plans we have a part to play, as do they in our life plan.

I believe the reason we have guides and teachers with us at all times is to assist us and keep us on track, that is of course, as much as they are able to, without interferring with our free will. Although it is possible that for some reason the path may take a detour. It is also certainly possible that we have many different plans for the outcome of this present incarnation.

It is even more difficult to accept that we could be living not only in this timeline, but in many others simultaneously and that each of these timelines possibly has a different outcome. So much to learn and understand ... I believe that the coordination it would require is quite possible... anything is possible for the entity that created you and me and our earth and our universe, don't you agree??????

I have to admit, I can understand why some think that people like me are "not quite right" entertaining these outlandish ideas and beliefs.

Isn't this what we came here for though... to learn, experience and grow?

Canuck
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I think they're allowing themselves to become dehumanized, probably through buying into influences such as "Seth" and "The Secret" which deal in partial truths disguised as absolutes.


Thank you for your perspective.

For your information:
1] I have not read any Seth material
2] I stopped watching "The Secret" after 5 minutes.
 Quoting: Azure'




What didn't you like about "The Secret"?
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I think they're allowing themselves to become dehumanized, probably through buying into influences such as "Seth" and "The Secret" which deal in partial truths disguised as absolutes.


Thank you for your perspective.

For your information:
1] I have not read any Seth material
2] I stopped watching "The Secret" after 5 minutes.




What didn't you like about "The Secret"?
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its false, what it says in it is not true. people intend one thing and the exact opposite happens all the time

its entirely false. its just people who apply for 50 jobs, then get one and say they use the secret to get it, like retarded people with really retarded brain damage, just things that happen anyway

never anything like growing back an arm that was chopped off.... it doesnt have any effect at all, its scam, its lying, its false, do you understand?>
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the OP talks about rejecting the idea of victimhood, but this is of no use, it has no effect whatsoever on suffering & Torture degree

its a completely worthless thread, and insulting too.

does rejecting the idea of victimhood change the amount of pain 3rd degree burns cause? no. does it change the suffering hallucinations of schizophrenia? no. does it help narcoleptic people to retain consciousness? no.

theres no effect whatsoever on suffering levels.
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Its false statement to say there are no victims and that your thoughts change reality

the reason why the statement is false is because, i already explained, I myself thoguht and believed one thing, then the exact opposite happened, and this occurred hundreds of countless times. Same thing with millions of other people.

So your statement arises from

1) never suffering, i mean real suffering then experience where no matter what you do, nothing hels the pain and torture at all

2) having a low intelligence and not being able to think. E.G. it only took my brain 2 seconds to remember several instances of thoughts not working, and that millions of people experience, yet you have an entire thread for days and days and dont think of this. Odd , like your brain doesnt function or something. 2 seconds is all it takes to remember the evidence that the statements are false. if beliefs impacted outcome, then the experiences i had never would have occurred, same thing with MILLIONs of other people


so therefore, you are a cold and cruel person to tell a suffering person "hey you, suffering person, its all your fault, there are no victims, stop playing victim, the answer is easy, you just dont use it"

like a cold witch bitch of evil and cruelness.
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Once more you either: 1) *Totally* misunderstand what I am saying, or 2) Choose to twist it.

Where did I say "thoughts change reality" ?? I don't recall saying that here. (Whether or not they actually do is something we could perhaps start another thread about though.)

What I am talking about is *attitude* - and, hello, reality check - *you have a Choice* I am *NOT telling* you 'what to think' - the Choice IS YOURS.

In *My World* - there are *no "victims"* - if your world is full of them then good luck with that, but I shall have no part in it. The point is that when you remove the Physical world then there truly are *NO Victims*... but since you don't Remember that (and do not Choose to) and would rather play "I'm a victim on Earth", then so be it. It is all up to you - again, all the best with that...

You see, it doesn't really help much for me to attempt to explain some of these things to someone who has already made up their minds. I know what I do. I have had my experiences and I can choose to share them or remain silent. This is the first time in a long time I am speaking out in public. Some things just don't change...

It was all so predictable.

Blessings to you on your journey,
Azure'
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Its false statement to say there are no victims and that your thoughts change reality

the reason why the statement is false is because, i already explained, I myself thoguht and believed one thing, then the exact opposite happened, and this occurred hundreds of countless times. Same thing with millions of other people.

So your statement arises from

1) never suffering, i mean real suffering then experience where no matter what you do, nothing hels the pain and torture at all

2) having a low intelligence and not being able to think. E.G. it only took my brain 2 seconds to remember several instances of thoughts not working, and that millions of people experience, yet you have an entire thread for days and days and dont think of this. Odd , like your brain doesnt function or something. 2 seconds is all it takes to remember the evidence that the statements are false. if beliefs impacted outcome, then the experiences i had never would have occurred, same thing with MILLIONs of other people


so therefore, you are a cold and cruel person to tell a suffering person "hey you, suffering person, its all your fault, there are no victims, stop playing victim, the answer is easy, you just dont use it"

like a cold witch bitch of evil and cruelness.



Once more you either: 1) *Totally* misunderstand what I am saying, or 2) Choose to twist it.

Where did I say "thoughts change reality" ?? I don't recall saying that here. (Whether or not they actually do is something we could perhaps start another thread about though.)

What I am talking about is *attitude* - and, hello, reality check - *you have a Choice* I am *NOT telling* you 'what to think' - the Choice IS YOURS.

In *My World* - there are *no "victims"* - if your world is full of them then good luck with that, but I shall have no part in it. The point is that when you remove the Physical world then there truly are *NO Victims*... but since you don't Remember that (and do not Choose to) and would rather play "I'm a victim on Earth", then so be it. It is all up to you - again, all the best with that...

You see, it doesn't really help much for me to attempt to explain some of these things to someone who has already made up their minds. I know what I do. I have had my experiences and I can choose to share them or remain silent. This is the first time in a long time I am speaking out in public. Some things just don't change...

It was all so predictable.

Blessings to you on your journey,
Azure'
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This doesnt change anything though. Your "world" of "no victims" has no effect on the amount of pain messages sent to the brain of a 3rd degree burn victim, or the life destroying hallucinations of schizophrenia

a person experiences the exact same thing regardless of you playing semantic games of victim or no victim

your thread is worthless and useless.

if a girl 50 miles away from is burned and scream YAHHHHHHHH YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AYHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH and wants to die from the torture pain, your viewpoint philosophy has no effect on real life reality of the pain messages being sent to the brain of that girl.
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What didn't you like about "The Secret"?
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1] The Frequency.
2] It is too limiting.
3] The stuff that was accurate in it is nothing new to me + they weren't providing Pure information. It is distorted.

Azure'
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"In *My World* - there are *no "victims"* - if your world is full of them then good luck with that, but I shall have no part in it. The point is that when you remove the Physical world then there truly are *NO Victims*... but since you don't Remember that (and do not Choose to) and would rather play "I'm a victim on Earth", then so be it. It is all up to you - again, all the best with that..."



Well, maybe "your world" is just that. "Your" world. Not ultimate reality on the rest of this planet. There are definitely victims of oppressors. Maybe your "lesson" is to learn this.
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This doesnt change anything though. Your "world" of "no victims" has no effect on the amount of pain messages sent to the brain of a 3rd degree burn victim, or the life destroying hallucinations of schizophrenia
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When did I say there is no pain and suffering???


a person experiences the exact same thing regardless of you playing semantic games of victim or no victim
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How is it that you so sure of this?
In my experience your statement is completely incorrect.


if a girl 50 miles away from is burned and scream YAHHHHHHHH YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AYHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH and wants to die from the torture pain, your viewpoint philosophy has no effect on real life reality of the pain messages being sent to the brain of that girl.
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I am talking primarily about Responsibility and Accountability. These are Spiritul Responsibilities.

*I Am* FULLY accountable for all the ways I (my body) was killed. So you think that's 'an evil' thing for someone to do? (Being Accoubntable and choosing not to see themself as a "victim".)

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Again, the OP has never suffered before and is making false statements


With Absolute Respect, you have absolutely *no idea* what you are talking about.



E.G. thoughts do not affect condition, but a person can lie and say it does and make spurious statements on a board, then other people can point out its untrue, then the OP can type more nonsense as a non-comeback while others of retardation will see the non-comeback as a comeback even though its not

do you understand how it works now?


What are you doing here then if that is what you believe? Would your words not then by your logic be *as worthless* as you purport mine to be?

Azure'


This is not Oprah disinfo or The Secret forum.

Now, i had specific symptoms of Anemia, including even cracks on the side of my mouth. Im a vegetarian who has an iron deficient diet. When i started taking Iron, i was sure it would help the way i felt, yet it had no effect.

My belief in the Iron having an effect for certain had no impact, the exact opposite occured. Now, if what you state was true, i wouldnt have had this experience, nor would i have had hundreds of other experiences where beliefs and thoughts have no effect, nor would millions of other people have billions of experiences where this is shown to be false.

However your illogical cognitive disorder Asperger's syndrome mind will ignore this reply or have a reply that ignores the facts of it, because this is the way you are. You are "programmed" to say false things because they "sound true", then ignore super clear and repeating indications that they are false, then use the english language in an unclear strange way to unethically state these fallacies and oppose those who say its clearly untrue, trying to make them look like they are "not ready yet to see the 'truth'.

Its unethical because its saying people who have experiences you dont have nor ever have chose those experiences or has an easy solution but just simply doesnt use it, when again, this is shown to be false no matter how "true" it "feels" to you.

Your personality is actually wicked rather than spiritual and ethical.


Anonymous Coward 583542, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck



This was my next point and you are matching your MO perfectly

i was also going to mention that you are programmed to use the word victim because its programmed to give a negative connotation and programmed to make you look correct. but in real life reality it is incorrect, and you will dodge the facts as azure does.

I don't care for the word "victim" because to me it means giving or allowing someone else to usurpe my power. I'm not sure of your insinuation that it makes me "look correct" but the word victim is negative and real life reality does not make it positive in any way, shape or form, to my way of thinking, at least!

Like i said, the statement are false rather than true. You can see the statements are false from first hand experience, or you can be a liar or denial person of fakeness.

Can you explain to me what thought(s) you are trying to convey here, I am a little confused.

this is why people think one thing and believe one thing, and a different thing happens. of course if the false statements were true, this would never happen.

Here again I'm sorry I am not sure what you are trying to say.

Its unethical, wrong for you to make false statements that are super clearly false, as clearly false as pink elephants can fly.

Ahh... but I am merely expounding on "my own personal beliefs" ... I am in no way forcing you or anyone else to accept what I say as the truth. You would be remiss to do so. You have and should be listening to your own truth. Since when is discussion and debate unethical or wrong? Do you have proof that my statements are false?

It is wrong, unethical, evil and wicked of you to be typing the things you type, because you are typing false statements to psychologically attack others

Do you feel I am psychologically attacking you personally? Do you feel like a victim here?

that is malevolent rather than benevolent.

it is malevolent to downtalk to peoples suffering, making false statements about it, and playing psychological attack games

Again do you think I am personally attacking you? Again are you a victim in this situation?

not benevolent, malevolent,

not light, but darkness and evil and mean and cruel ....

know the difference?

Yes AC I do know the difference, but it does interest me to know if you feel you are being attacked personally by me, and if so why do you think this is happening? What reason would I have to do this to you?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 583542


I look forward to your responses to the bolded text.

Meanwhile if I haven't .... I sincerly wish you a healthy, happy, loving New Year.

Canuck
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Re: There are No "Victims"
if someone lost an arm, they can get over it within a certain period of time and have the original happiness they had before it happened. This is because losing an arm doesnt affect the brain

but what if, what if a persons brain its self was affected. what if a person was born with totally, and i mean totally fucked up mesolimbic reward pathways and couldnt feel hardly any pleasure compared to others, and couldnt feel value in anything, and felt a torture state of consciousness constantly?


then this person would feel different than the other people who feel pleasure all of the time, sublime well-being in comparison, and who say philosophies like "there are no victims" and who couldnt even begin to imagine the consciousness state of the brain disorder person.

the brain disordered personw ould get no pleasure or good feelings from beliefs like the secret and positive thoughts, and the only reason why the other person does is because they were in a pleasure state TO BEGIN WITH, TO BEGIN WITH

no one will understand this post unless they experience it for themselves what its like to feel central consciousness affecting dysphoria and anhedonia. the ultra mega hardcore super huge difference it would make in a person compared to things that dont affect the brain, like losing an arm, or forclosed house.

it is doubtful there are many of high enough intelligence to understand this true-reply

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