There are No "Victims"

There are victims in this first stage of eternal life which is taking place on this planet.

OP! Hope that you can keep to your opinion even after being raped by six 120 kg gypsy orchs and then be kidnapped and hired as a whore; please don't get victimised and love your "destiny"!

(That IS happening to many girls in my former communist homeland where a 1 000 000 gypsy orch-army terrorising my people)

OP! You NEED TO CHECK REALITY!

OP!

Your misundertanding of Life is VAST like the Universe! :-)

Only IF you don't ANY FEELINGS AT ALL and you can't be hurt...only in that case are you free from being a "victim"...like being a f:ing REPTILIAN!

Fear draws things like this. Deep inside the person may say to themselves " I was always afraid this would happen." Getting rid of fear is something everyone needs to do. We need to always believe we are safe and sound.

And no matter what, the person who you draw to you has a choice in the matter. To attack or not to attack. Everyone has free will. So the attacker has to pay the piper. The person who was attacked already has.

Also, just because you draw something to you you have the right to accept it or not. You have power. And when bad things happen love and forgive yourself and those who persecuted you. We are all imperfect and err.

There was a woman in the news whose house was broken into by a naked man. From the looks of it she was afraid this would happen. Someone would break into her home. BUT she overcame this fear and grabbed that man by his testicles and called the police. Even though she had fear she took control. I doubt this woman will fear this again. She empowered herself. So there aren't victims unless you choose it.

Someone mentioned children. Children need to be protected until they learn that they are in charge of their reality and then they still need help and guidance. Their thoughts can be all over the place and they have not yet learned discernment. Around ten they can start to really understand this but still need much help and protection.

Do not ever blame the child at all or the person who has no idea what is going on or that they drew it. And never blame someone who understands this or yourself because again we are not perfect thinkers. When you fall off the horse you just need to brush off the dust and get back on.

If there was no faulty thinking and behavior we would not need prisons. And if people would love their neighbors, enemies and those who 'persecute' them then we would have a peaceful earth. It all starts with US. And we are all related. Love and it will come back to you.

BFH if I may, why do you worry about something which is so far away, why do you not live for today? Don't you realize that this fear you have of something which may or may not happen in the future, is keeping you from enjoying life in the moment.

What is important something that may happen three years from now or what is happening right here right now?

Many things could happen between now and three years from now. What you fear you draw to you, so get on with your life now and start living for today.

Happy New Year to you and let go of this worry... it is not serving you in the present.

Blessings

Canuck

Thank you for the article AC, as you will see I have highlighted a portion... these are very wise words.

The writer of the article is entitled to her beliefs, while they may be different from those I have .. they are hers and I respect her right to hold them.

AC have you ever thought about this world we have incarnated into? Why would we have come from the other side of life, the spirit world, a perfect and beautiful place to this earth plane? From a place where we need nothing material and exist peacefully in love as spirit beings.

On this side we have come to live in a clumsy physical body, quite unlike those we have on the other side which are pure energy. We have to worry about feeding ourselve and others, keeping a roof over our head, being too cold or too warm, protecting our "stuff" from those who covet it and would take it from us by force, fearing for our personal safety.

Do you see what I am trying to point out here? We have two opposites, we would not be able to compare them if we had nothing to compare one to the other with. How would we ever experience, evolve or learn if we didn't have the opposite state of being?

Remembering spirit is immortal and undamageable, would it be possible that some spirit beings will incarnate for a short period of time, to assist in providing lessons not only for ourselves but others in our spirit group? Our physical lives here on the earth in comparison to us as spiritual beings is but a second in time. Do you grasp that thought? ... a second in time. One minute we are here and poof... we're gone. We'll always be spirit for ever and ever.

The question of victimization, particularly of children and animals or those who are dependent on others, cannot be justified, to us as human beings, however as spirit, we cannot be damaged as we are immortal beings. Do you not think that in that sense we can look at our sufferings here on this earth as necessary to enable us and others to compare and more importantly to learn from these experiences. I would hazzard a guess that is why on this earth plane we have opposites... they are for comparison. We have day and its opposite is night, good and bad, right and wrong, hot and cold, black and white, etc.

This is why we are here to learn without the benefit of the knowledge of where we came from or the why we are here, because it would be counterproductive to us. Coming from spirit to incarnate as a human being and know what we know as spirit would not help us learn anything, we might as well have remained in the spirit world.

I'm sorry to say and it may sound cruel and unkind an not compassionate... but every living entity who comes to this world cannot claim to be a victim of circumstance or of other man because each of us came here for a purpose which was planned before we ever reached this planet. This is my belief and I do not bully or push this upon others.. if some listen and consider and perhaps think there may be something to this belief, then I think they will get answers to the questions of why this life can sometimes be so unfair.

I truly hope the above conveys my meaning... I know Azure' could probably say it better, but then we are two individuals expressing ourselves through our own knowing. Her knowing may not be the same as mine... but we are on the same page I think.

If you need clarification, I hope I can do so, because each time I convey or put forth an opinion or belief, the amazing thing is it brings up more questions and that is a good thing... I think, anyway.

Canuck

So very true...Happy New Year RIB!! Hope the coming year brings you everything your heart desires.

Hugs

Canuck

Theres a difference between true genius being labeled as insane and actual insanity and stupidity. The OP is actual insanity and stupidity. Its a manic woman with Asperger's syndrome who makes no sense and is fucked in the head.

You drank the kool-aide. Darn shame.

AC when you are ready to hear.... I assure you it will make sense to you, until then.....

I wish you a wonderful New Year and that you obtain all your heart desires.

Blessings

Canuck

That was for canuck.

Again, the OP has never suffered before and is making false statements

False means untrue

untrue means incorrect

incorrect means wrong

wrong means the statements that are being made differ from reality.

differ from reality means the statements being made are not what actually happens.

E.G. thoughts do not affect condition, but a person can lie and say it does and make spurious statements on a board, then other people can point out its untrue, then the OP can type more nonsense as a non-comeback while others of retardation will see the non-comeback as a comeback even though its not

do you understand how it works now?

Okay AC, what is it that you disagree with? I am ready willing and open to hearing your side of the debate. Without some feedback your post about koolaid means little...

Happy New Year to you ... I hope the new year brings you health, prosperity and much love...!!!!

Hugs

Canuck

Azure,

Thank you, so very much, for expressing truth.

Much Peace and Blessings are sent to you...

Let the Truth BE revealed.

These things require steely resolve and a strong mind, those who do not see behind the veil are of weak mind and intellect. To strengthen your mind is a tough, long process, and is ongoing, but the results worth it. Victimhood is after all at its very core a human emotion, remove the emotion from the equation and you see things much more clearly indeed!

I don't think they're weak or stupid, they just aren't ready to wake up yet.I have lived most of my life in darkness, only recently beginning to see Truth. When they're ready, it will happen.

I think that says it in one sentence. It doesn't mean that if you decide you do not want to be a victim that all of the problems that are created by someone else will just vanish. They may very well still be there but it will change how you deal with the problem and if you will be able to survive because of your feelings.

Children, mentally and phyicaly challenged are a TOTALLY different area. (sorry about the spelling errs my spell check isn't working)

Bravo! Well put.

Perception is everything. If you think you're a victim, then a victim you will surely be.

OP was retarded in a past life.

"New Age", huh? Nice labels 'n all - I don't need them. What I write here is nothing "new". In fact it is very 'old'. We did it 2000 years ago, we did it 50000 years ago and more.


There is a difference between *sympathy* and *empathy* and *compassion*. One is Negative in its nature, two are Positive.

How easily some people want to misunderstand things is all too apparent. How easily they choose not to see any further than their noses is quite clear. How very easy it is to turn my words around this way 'as though' I am some kind of "victimiser" - go on, keep it up if you choose, it will get you nowhere, because you are only playing the victim and with me as an apparent imagineray "victimiser". The lengths that Victim Consciousness will go to knowns no bounds.

Why do you twist things? I know.
It's ok know that I Love you, regardless of your actions.

I agree, however, completely with the quote by The Buddha.

Azure'

So now we know you and canuck work together. PEOPLE. THESE ARE BOTH GUYS BACKING EACH OTHERS SHIT UP. THESE WOTHLESS CRETINS ARE ADVOCATING THE WORST FORMS OF VIOLENCE BY SAYING THERE ARE NO VICTIMS. FOR THE SAKE OF THE CHILDREN I HOPE YOU STOP THIS NONSENSE. CEASE AND DESIST.

With Absolute Respect, you have absolutely *no idea* what you are talking about.




What are you doing here then if that is what you believe? Would your words not then by your logic be *as worthless* as you purport mine to be?

Azure'

Well done, you win The Prize for *not understanding* a single thing I have written here!

I would give up the life of this body if neccessary (aka "die" in more plain, yet erroneous, terms) in order to protect *anyone or anything* (with whom I have Contracts to protect or with one whom Asks for my assistance) that another would lay their hands on on my watch.

Azure'

This is not Oprah disinfo or The Secret forum.

Now, i had specific symptoms of Anemia, including even cracks on the side of my mouth. Im a vegetarian who has an iron deficient diet. When i started taking Iron, i was sure it would help the way i felt, yet it had no effect.

My belief in the Iron having an effect for certain had no impact, the exact opposite occured. Now, if what you state was true, i wouldnt have had this experience, nor would i have had hundreds of other experiences where beliefs and thoughts have no effect, nor would millions of other people have billions of experiences where this is shown to be false.

However your illogical cognitive disorder Asperger's syndrome mind will ignore this reply or have a reply that ignores the facts of it, because this is the way you are. You are "programmed" to say false things because they "sound true", then ignore super clear and repeating indications that they are false, then use the english language in an unclear strange way to unethically state these fallacies and oppose those who say its clearly untrue, trying to make them look like they are "not ready yet to see the 'truth'.

Its unethical because its saying people who have experiences you dont have nor ever have chose those experiences or has an easy solution but just simply doesnt use it, when again, this is shown to be false no matter how "true" it "feels" to you.

Your personality is actually wicked rather than spiritual and ethical.

Listen AC, I can assure you that Azure' and I are not the only ones with similar beliefs.... what a sheltered life you must live. I am sorry you won't think out of the box, because there is so much more to our world and our existence than you apparently are aware of.

What hurts you so much that you feel you must hurt others to heal yourself? Look into yourself and question what is making you so react so violently against people you don't know...

You have my sincere sympathy for the pain you are apparently suffering... I will ask for healing to be sent to you to assist you.

By the way.... you do yourself a disservice by posting as you have ... people will question your state of mind.

So please sit down and meditate on what is hurting you so much in your life that you should be so bitter and hurtful to strangers.

And please there is absolutely no need to shout, we are able to hear you without the shouting.

Blessings to you.

Canuck

I understood everthing you wrote. It's called spin.

Anonymous Coward 583542, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck

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These people posing as females aren't. They have an agenda.
Too bad for the real Women here.