There are No "Victims"

OP, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck

T.C., do you believe that every last detail of our lives here on this planet are planned in detail before we incarnate?

These things require steely resolve and a strong mind, those who do not see behind the veil are of weak mind and intellect. To strengthen your mind is a tough, long process, and is ongoing, but the results worth it. Victimhood is after all at its very core a human emotion, remove the emotion from the equation and you see things much more clearly indeed!

And while there are no victims in the purest sense of the word, anyone who reads my threads may feel like one.

Shalom.

OP, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck


Hi Canuck,

"I" (before my walk-in experience) have been violently physically assaulted, for no apparent reason, before - damage to the body, etc - in this life. In at least two of my other lives my body was killed through violent assault/persecution.

...but I am *not* "a victim", of that I can assure you. It is simply not an option for me.

Azure'

My apologies Azure' I meant the question for the AC. That post was not meant for you.

Interestingly, as a young child I had persistent dreams of being sacrificed at an alter as a baby. I would wake up terrified just as the knife approached my body, thankfully the dreams left me as I matured. This is the only memory I retain of any previous life.

I don't believe I have incarnated to this plane as many as some. But I am looking foward to returning home and not having to do another stint here. :)

Again, the OP has never suffered before and is making false statements


With Absolute Respect, you have absolutely *no idea* what you are talking about.



E.G. thoughts do not affect condition, but a person can lie and say it does and make spurious statements on a board, then other people can point out its untrue, then the OP can type more nonsense as a non-comeback while others of retardation will see the non-comeback as a comeback even though its not

do you understand how it works now?


What are you doing here then if that is what you believe? Would your words not then by your logic be *as worthless* as you purport mine to be?

Azure'


This is not Oprah disinfo or The Secret forum.

Now, i had specific symptoms of Anemia, including even cracks on the side of my mouth. Im a vegetarian who has an iron deficient diet. When i started taking Iron, i was sure it would help the way i felt, yet it had no effect.

My belief in the Iron having an effect for certain had no impact, the exact opposite occured. Now, if what you state was true, i wouldnt have had this experience, nor would i have had hundreds of other experiences where beliefs and thoughts have no effect, nor would millions of other people have billions of experiences where this is shown to be false.

However your illogical cognitive disorder Asperger's syndrome mind will ignore this reply or have a reply that ignores the facts of it, because this is the way you are. You are "programmed" to say false things because they "sound true", then ignore super clear and repeating indications that they are false, then use the english language in an unclear strange way to unethically state these fallacies and oppose those who say its clearly untrue, trying to make them look like they are "not ready yet to see the 'truth'.

Its unethical because its saying people who have experiences you dont have nor ever have chose those experiences or has an easy solution but just simply doesnt use it, when again, this is shown to be false no matter how "true" it "feels" to you.

Your personality is actually wicked rather than spiritual and ethical.


Anonymous Coward 583542, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck

This was my next point and you are matching your MO perfectly

i was also going to mention that you are programmed to use the word victim because its programmed to give a negative connotation and programmed to make you look correct. but in real life reality it is incorrect, and you will dodge the facts as azure does.

Like i said, the statement are false rather than true. You can see the statements are false from first hand experience, or you can be a liar or denial person of fakeness.

this is why people think one thing and believe one thing, and a different thing happens. of course if the false statements were true, this would never happen.

Its unethical, wrong for you to make false statements that are super clearly false, as clearly false as pink elephants can fly.

It is wrong, unethical, evil and wicked of you to be typing the things you type, because you are typing false statements to psychologically attack others

that is malevolent rather than benevolent.

it is malevolent to downtalk to peoples suffering, making false statements about it, and playing psychological attack games

not benevolent, malevolent,

not light, but darkness and evil and mean and cruel ....

know the difference?

azure + cucuck is malevolent psyops disinformation

so in a nutshell is this thread and azure + cucuck is malevolent psyops disinformation

I think they're allowing themselves to become dehumanized, probably through buying into influences such as "Seth" and "The Secret" which deal in partial truths disguised as absolutes.

T.C., do you believe that every last detail of our lives here on this planet are planned in detail before we incarnate?

No I don't. I guess its possible but can you imagine the co-ordination required? Its mind boggling. And if it were true then how do we supposedly have 'free will'? Or is free will simply an illusion created as a result of our physical minds manifesting a karmic reality? I am more akin to believe that perhaps we incarnate with certain goals/agendas but that the specifics are not important.

I think they're allowing themselves to become dehumanized, probably through buying into influences such as "Seth" and "The Secret" which deal in partial truths disguised as absolutes.


Thank you for your perspective.

For your information:
1] I have not read any Seth material
2] I stopped watching "The Secret" after 5 minutes.

I think they're allowing themselves to become dehumanized, probably through buying into influences such as "Seth" and "The Secret" which deal in partial truths disguised as absolutes.


Thank you for your perspective.

For your information:
1] I have not read any Seth material
2] I stopped watching "The Secret" after 5 minutes.




What didn't you like about "The Secret"?

Its false statement to say there are no victims and that your thoughts change reality

the reason why the statement is false is because, i already explained, I myself thoguht and believed one thing, then the exact opposite happened, and this occurred hundreds of countless times. Same thing with millions of other people.

So your statement arises from

1) never suffering, i mean real suffering then experience where no matter what you do, nothing hels the pain and torture at all

2) having a low intelligence and not being able to think. E.G. it only took my brain 2 seconds to remember several instances of thoughts not working, and that millions of people experience, yet you have an entire thread for days and days and dont think of this. Odd , like your brain doesnt function or something. 2 seconds is all it takes to remember the evidence that the statements are false. if beliefs impacted outcome, then the experiences i had never would have occurred, same thing with MILLIONs of other people


so therefore, you are a cold and cruel person to tell a suffering person "hey you, suffering person, its all your fault, there are no victims, stop playing victim, the answer is easy, you just dont use it"

like a cold witch bitch of evil and cruelness.

Its false statement to say there are no victims and that your thoughts change reality

the reason why the statement is false is because, i already explained, I myself thoguht and believed one thing, then the exact opposite happened, and this occurred hundreds of countless times. Same thing with millions of other people.

So your statement arises from

1) never suffering, i mean real suffering then experience where no matter what you do, nothing hels the pain and torture at all

2) having a low intelligence and not being able to think. E.G. it only took my brain 2 seconds to remember several instances of thoughts not working, and that millions of people experience, yet you have an entire thread for days and days and dont think of this. Odd , like your brain doesnt function or something. 2 seconds is all it takes to remember the evidence that the statements are false. if beliefs impacted outcome, then the experiences i had never would have occurred, same thing with MILLIONs of other people


so therefore, you are a cold and cruel person to tell a suffering person "hey you, suffering person, its all your fault, there are no victims, stop playing victim, the answer is easy, you just dont use it"

like a cold witch bitch of evil and cruelness.



Once more you either: 1) *Totally* misunderstand what I am saying, or 2) Choose to twist it.

Where did I say "thoughts change reality" ?? I don't recall saying that here. (Whether or not they actually do is something we could perhaps start another thread about though.)

What I am talking about is *attitude* - and, hello, reality check - *you have a Choice* I am *NOT telling* you 'what to think' - the Choice IS YOURS.

In *My World* - there are *no "victims"* - if your world is full of them then good luck with that, but I shall have no part in it. The point is that when you remove the Physical world then there truly are *NO Victims*... but since you don't Remember that (and do not Choose to) and would rather play "I'm a victim on Earth", then so be it. It is all up to you - again, all the best with that...

You see, it doesn't really help much for me to attempt to explain some of these things to someone who has already made up their minds. I know what I do. I have had my experiences and I can choose to share them or remain silent. This is the first time in a long time I am speaking out in public. Some things just don't change...

It was all so predictable.

Blessings to you on your journey,
Azure'

What didn't you like about "The Secret"?

This doesnt change anything though. Your "world" of "no victims" has no effect on the amount of pain messages sent to the brain of a 3rd degree burn victim, or the life destroying hallucinations of schizophrenia

a person experiences the exact same thing regardless of you playing semantic games of victim or no victim

if a girl 50 miles away from is burned and scream YAHHHHHHHH YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AYHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH and wants to die from the torture pain, your viewpoint philosophy has no effect on real life reality of the pain messages being sent to the brain of that girl.

Again, the OP has never suffered before and is making false statements


With Absolute Respect, you have absolutely *no idea* what you are talking about.



E.G. thoughts do not affect condition, but a person can lie and say it does and make spurious statements on a board, then other people can point out its untrue, then the OP can type more nonsense as a non-comeback while others of retardation will see the non-comeback as a comeback even though its not

do you understand how it works now?


What are you doing here then if that is what you believe? Would your words not then by your logic be *as worthless* as you purport mine to be?

Azure'


This is not Oprah disinfo or The Secret forum.

Now, i had specific symptoms of Anemia, including even cracks on the side of my mouth. Im a vegetarian who has an iron deficient diet. When i started taking Iron, i was sure it would help the way i felt, yet it had no effect.

My belief in the Iron having an effect for certain had no impact, the exact opposite occured. Now, if what you state was true, i wouldnt have had this experience, nor would i have had hundreds of other experiences where beliefs and thoughts have no effect, nor would millions of other people have billions of experiences where this is shown to be false.

However your illogical cognitive disorder Asperger's syndrome mind will ignore this reply or have a reply that ignores the facts of it, because this is the way you are. You are "programmed" to say false things because they "sound true", then ignore super clear and repeating indications that they are false, then use the english language in an unclear strange way to unethically state these fallacies and oppose those who say its clearly untrue, trying to make them look like they are "not ready yet to see the 'truth'.

Its unethical because its saying people who have experiences you dont have nor ever have chose those experiences or has an easy solution but just simply doesnt use it, when again, this is shown to be false no matter how "true" it "feels" to you.

Your personality is actually wicked rather than spiritual and ethical.


Anonymous Coward 583542, forgive me, but are you saying you are a victim? If so what or who is victimizing you?

Thanks for your clarification.

Canuck



This was my next point and you are matching your MO perfectly

i was also going to mention that you are programmed to use the word victim because its programmed to give a negative connotation and programmed to make you look correct. but in real life reality it is incorrect, and you will dodge the facts as azure does.

I don't care for the word "victim" because to me it means giving or allowing someone else to usurpe my power. I'm not sure of your insinuation that it makes me "look correct" but the word victim is negative and real life reality does not make it positive in any way, shape or form, to my way of thinking, at least!

Like i said, the statement are false rather than true. You can see the statements are false from first hand experience, or you can be a liar or denial person of fakeness.

Can you explain to me what thought(s) you are trying to convey here, I am a little confused.

this is why people think one thing and believe one thing, and a different thing happens. of course if the false statements were true, this would never happen.

Here again I'm sorry I am not sure what you are trying to say.

Its unethical, wrong for you to make false statements that are super clearly false, as clearly false as pink elephants can fly.

Ahh... but I am merely expounding on "my own personal beliefs" ... I am in no way forcing you or anyone else to accept what I say as the truth. You would be remiss to do so. You have and should be listening to your own truth. Since when is discussion and debate unethical or wrong? Do you have proof that my statements are false?

It is wrong, unethical, evil and wicked of you to be typing the things you type, because you are typing false statements to psychologically attack others

Do you feel I am psychologically attacking you personally? Do you feel like a victim here?

that is malevolent rather than benevolent.

it is malevolent to downtalk to peoples suffering, making false statements about it, and playing psychological attack games

Again do you think I am personally attacking you? Again are you a victim in this situation?

not benevolent, malevolent,

not light, but darkness and evil and mean and cruel ....

know the difference?

Yes AC I do know the difference, but it does interest me to know if you feel you are being attacked personally by me, and if so why do you think this is happening? What reason would I have to do this to you?